Marvel's new Sorcerer Supreme #1 credits point to Scarlet Witch, not Magik, as the next magical lead Key Scarlet Witch creators like Steve Orlando, Ruth Redmond, and Alanna Smith helm the new series The upcoming run launches December 2025, continuing Wanda Maximoff's evolution in Marvel magic Scarlet Witch steps up as Sorcerer Supreme following the events of One World Under Doom in Marvel loreThis is the Marvel website listing for the new Sorcerer Supreme #1, which launches at the end of December 2025. And it is the biggest sign that, no, it's not Magik, but Wanda Maximoff, The Scarlet Witch, is taking the role. The writer is longtime Scarlet Witch writer Steve Orlando, rather than Magik writer Ashley Allen. The artist is Bernard Chang.Also the colourist is Scarlet Witch's Ruth Redmond, and the editor is Alanna Smith, editor of Scarlet Witchhttps://bleedingcool.com/comics/the-biggest-sign-that-scarlet-witch-is-the-new-sorcerer-supreme/
Oh, so it's a miniseries.
>>150469228I like Magik but after the shit with Captain Britain I don't want another job absorbed by the X-house.
>>150469333Yeah that's what I reckon also at any rate I predict this will be a real shitshow. Wanda's series just don't last and thus keep getting cancelled I have no doubt the same will happen here I give this series four issues at the most and then it will get axed if sales turn out to be bad they may cancel it after three.
Forgive me for being a casual, but I thought Magik was sort of the sorcerer supreme/ruler of Limbo, and there was some on-panel talk about not becoming Sorcerer Supreme for more than one plane of existance at a time, since it's meant to defend and watch over said plane instead of being a new costume and vague power-up. If I'm not wrong, then why would Magik be in the running?
How does that Nexus being thing work? I just read a comic bringing it up a few weeks ago about how she apparently exists in all universe or something.
>>150469228Can someone explain how Orlando keeps getting work?Anyway at least it's not Memegik aka Whoreyana Rasputrid.
>>150469228I have a bad feeling about this...
>>150469333to be fair Steve Orlando's Scarlet Witch has been taking the Shang-Chi route of doing a 20-30 issue run through like 5 different miniseriesit's retarded, but if it's Steve Orlando on the book, it's just a continuation of his run>>150470035I don't know that sales specifically are why they keep relaunching Orlando's book. For instance, Iron Man is straight up cancelled and is absolutely not getting a relaunch with the same creative team.
>>150471191Magik got sick of Limbo because it's the hell dimension that stole her youth and innocenceSo she passed the buck to MaddieShe actually likes and spends all her time on Earth so she wants to protect it, and Strange trained her for a while
>>150469228Red never looked so GOOD...
>>150469228If Marvel want to Wanda to have her own solo book, it's clearly time they tried a different writer, and clearly time they tried getting a star artist on the book, but this is at least an interesting development. It obviously won't last long, it's only a matter of time before a return to status quo and Strange gets his job back, but I for one welcome our new Sorceress Supreme.
>>150471235A storyline in What If? and Wanda's 1993 mini clarified it some more, but it's rarely been addressed since then. Basically a Nexus Being is someone who has a counterpart in EVERY possible timeline and AU across the multiverse, though the further out into the multiverse you get, the counterparts aren't necessarily identical in appearance, abilities or even name.The What If? story revealed that Franklin Richards, Odin, Vision, Jean and Kang were the other known Nexus Beings.
>>150474909>to be fair Steve Orlando's Scarlet Witch has been taking the Shang-Chi route of doing a 20-30 issue run through like 5 different miniseriesYou're right, they're clearly doing 10 issue "seasons" with a team up mini between each one, but it doesn't stop the Youtuber grifters trying to make the story that "Wanda's book keeps getting cancelled why do they keep relaunching it?" It's the same thing they keep doing whenever a heroine book relaunches, even when it's obviously not a cancellation.>I don't know that sales specifically are why they keep relaunching Orlando's book. His first volume started really strong, #1 was the #3 book in that month, and there were a lot of anecdotes about MCU Wanda fans who'd never bought comics before showing up for the early issues. But those anecdcotes stopped pretty quickly, the book wasn't doing anything close to what MCU fans might want or expect. Since then, the Wanda solo books tended to settle in the middle or lower half of the top 100, while the team-up minis both crashed out of the top 100 pretty quickly. It's bad news for Quicksilver and for Vision, but the lesson seems to be that a Scarlet Witch solo book sells better than teaming her with someone else. It's also bad news because those minis were the best Wanda books Orlando has written, she just comes alive as a character a lot more when Pietro and Vision are around.As to why they're sticking with Orlando, either it's because his first run started out performing really well, or he's just friends with the editor, and there's no higher-profile writer that wants the job.>>150471352>Can someone explain how Orlando keeps getting work?The same way most comics writers at the Big 2 do; by having friends in editorial, delivering his work on time and to a standard they consider "good enough", and not causing problems with co-workers. All of those things are more important in the industry than being top-tier great at writing.
>>150471352He is not a shithead to be around, and he hits his Deadlinesif you are these two things, people will always offer you more work
Another powerup for Wanda that does nothing to make her more interesting, just girlboss shit. Vapid illusion of change.
>>150478247I'm not sure they even can make her more powerful without turning her into an actual goddess.
>>150469228Oh boy the mary sue strikes again
>>150469228This is stupid considering she's never been a great sorceress, just an extremely powerful battery for elder gods, witches and tyrants to fight over>>150477954Wasn't it started in Byrnes run, something about basically being very important, each AU having their own nexus being (with Wanda representing 616) and that if she had bio children they could have enough power to destroy the universe which is why she was nudged towards Vision
>>150478303That might be the eventual goal.
>>150469228I'm just happy it didn't go to an X-Men
>>150479052Marvel has run out of competent Sorcerers at this point since Strange is stuck in Asgard, Doom is defeated, and Voodoo is dealing with Hulk stuff
>>150480580Isn't the woman that raised Nightcrawler a magician on Dr. Strange's level? Just bring her back from the dead and you are in business.
>>150480580Clea is still aroundLoki is pretending he isn't still aroundKushala was the Sorcerer Supreme of her timeDaimon Hellstrom and his sister SatanaBaron MordoAgatha HarknessJennifer KaleRintrahWiccanNico Minoru
They just let anyone be sorcerer supreme nowadays
>>150481104Does this even work for marketing? They’ve pulled this stunt so many times now and it always just reverts back to Strange. I can’t imagine anyone seriously believing he won’t be SS again by 2027.
>>150481266I don't think it made Loki or Doom any more popular. And frankly the storylines weren't worth the paper they were printed onBut Clea's brief run did help bring her back to relevance after she spent like all of the 00s and 10s as a forgotten C-ListerVoodoo was pretty cool during his time and it made people recognize he could be cool. But the fact that he died like a bitch and hasn't gotten a good solo since has really just made him fizzle out
>>150479052>Wasn't it started in Byrnes run, something about basically being very important, each AU having their own nexus being (with Wanda representing 616) and that if she had bio children they could have enough power to destroy the universe which is why she was nudged towards VisionYou're confusing things from several different runs. The Nexus Being concept was Roy & Dann Thomas on West Coast Avengers, wrapping up a story Byrne quit in the middle of. The idea that Immortus was trying to prevent Wanda from having kids came years later, in Avengers Forever, and a lot of people misinterpreted it and got the mistaken idea that Immortus made Wanda and Vision fall in love, when the actual story was Immortus showing Vision his origins to give him the confidence boost to act on feelings that were already there.
>>150481266People have noted that the Scarlet Witch, Magik and Storm books were all outselling Dr Strange already, so none of them are likely to see a sales boost from this, and everyone knows the status quo will just revert to Strange as SS, and it won't help his sales either.>>150481503Doom as SS was just to set up this event, which nobody seems to be enjoying and has gone on way too long.Brother Voodoo as SS wasn't as well received initially as you think. A lot of more popular characters were teased back then, only for Bendis to swerve everyone and make it a guy who'd been irrelevant for decades, and it was also Bendis' weird fetish for black men being undeniable. Voodoo got a solo book out of it where he got beaten up badly by Doom in the first issue, cancelled by #5, then killed off by Bendis in a New Avengers arc that seemed as close to an apology as Bendis ever gets. It wasn't until Duggan's Uncanny Avengers that people seemed to come around on the guy.
Another comic where Scarlet Witch is all powerfull and she just win because she can just made powers from no where?
>>150484056The current Scarlet Witch and Vision mini has been really goodFocuses more on the relationship and history between the two of them, they're both OP but it's in service of the story
>>150471191Clea was sorceress supreme of the Dark Dimension and took the place of Stephen in 616
>>150484293why does this art make Wanda look fucking Mexican
>>150484293Aside from the ongoing Wanda coloring atrocities, and that Orlando's books have delivered more fanservice of Vision and Pietro than of Wanda, this mini has been pretty good, but it's all going to be for nothing if they don't actually pull the trigger on finally making them a couple again after months of baiting readers with it.Full credit to Orlando, his inversion of the White Vision concept is really good, instead of being totally emotionless, this time he's so over-emotional he can barely control himself, Wanda had to take him to another dimension for a whole year just to get him to calmed down somewhere he wouldn't be a danger to himself or others.
>>150483086>People have noted that the Scarlet Witch, Magik and Storm books were all outselling Dr Strange already,If Strange is doing so bad why the fuck are they keeping up this asgard shit then? His book was doing fine before this asgard shit. Not only are they not undoing it but they are apparently relaunching it after the Doom Event.
>>150488298>If Strange is doing so bad why the fuck are they keeping up this asgard shit then?It may be an idea the current Dr Strange editor loves and wants to keep pushing, or it may just be a corporate decision that Strange will be locked into this status quo until they decide it's time for him to get his job of Sorcerer Supreme back, regardless of whether Strange in Asgard sells.
I will wait for the TBP to check this out since I have low expectations for this.
>>150487087The mini covers that whole year in another dimension with a two page spread, I'm surprised there aren't any fanfics elaborating on it yet. I guess nobody's reading the book at all.
>>150469228who?
I ship Wanda with Jessica Drew.
>>150485284Brown Wanda is the new thing.
>>150493073Have they even talked to each other ever?
>>150493703>considering this a requirement for ships
