What are we thinking about Absolute Joker? Will he be a legitimate monster, or is the cover a misdirection and a metaphor? Snyder has played with>Joker but... PENNYWISEever since the IT remake came out, but I don't know if he'd legitimately go for Joker being some old, dormant demon that woke up recently. In the Bane issue Alfred talks about>a child dressed as a clown in a Gotham alleybut also>he has another faceI think they might be going for an inverse Bruce here. Joker here will be a self-made billionaire and maybe willingly have made deals with whatever demon now inhabits him. To show the contrast between Absolute and Mainline Bruce. Absolute Bruce is self-made but middle class. Mainline Bruce is a billionaire by birth. Absolute Joker will be a self-made billionaire which will make him worse than the rest because he willingly became part of an evil system. Or something like that.I don't know, I don't think we'll get Joker here throwing karate kicks like mainline Bruce, being a typical inversion where he just had tons of money by birth, his parents got killed and he travelled the world becoming a killing machine for some purpose. I think the story of Joker will be one of gradual moral decline until he becomes the worst thing on the planet. Maybe he developed the Venom himself and he's monstrous and needs constant babyblood transfusions because him being the first means it's unstable. Or it'll be some stupid metaphor about his demon form being his "real face" and there's nothing supernatural, he's just an evil twat who uses venom to turn into a monster.
Three Jokers
>>150478054>that Joker Why would anyone want to live in Gotham?
>>150478054Moloch Joker is a take I wasn't expecting, but certainly not one to complain about either.
>>150478054Joker is now killer croc
>>150478054It's about as retarded as all the other Absolute shit, only thing worth reading in that whole thing is Martian Manhunter because it's the only one not aggressively stupid.
>>15047816410 bucks for rent
>>150478054Joker now the main bad guy from demon slayer.
>>150480073It's retarded but entertaining though. And what more can you ask from a modern day comic, Batman especially? Aren't people tired of "prestige" Batman being some broody faggot in badly written detective plots who has to learn the power of friendship and empathy? Absolute Batman is fun because it's Big Batman fighting Bigger Monsters. It's a stupid Jap vidya but in comic form. I'm not going to say that everyone should enjoy it, because it is moronic, but it's got its appeal. Literally what is better from the Big 2? Or Hell, even Indies. Remender and his 2 currently running>RELIGION BADcomics? Gillen's extremely slow Negro Xavier and PAJEETED comic that is a 40 Y/O writing the word fuck in every other word bubble? That Camp book where every issue is some different type of universal disaster is imaginative, I'll give you that. But I can't think of much else.
>>150480073Yeah yeah Absolute series is getting cancelled any day now
>>150481520Dark Patterns is a hell of a lot better. You can have good writing and still be a fun read, they're not mutually exclusive. Absolute Batman isn't that much different from the usual Snyderslop either, Martian Manhunter is the only Absolute book that feels like a truly unique interpretation of the character both conceptually and in terms of theming.>>150481565It's popular but it's still retarded, popularity rarely has anything to do with quality.
>>150478114satan, the antichrist, and the false prophet
They say something about a boy in a clown costume in an alley
Started reading the absolute batman comic. out EVERYTHING the thing that took me out the most bruce apparantly hiding a bunch of shit in his flesh that required surgery to remove and somehow fucking removing his teeth. i cant fucking take him seriously with all those gaps
>>150483741Desu, if they want him to be BIG and do all that nonsense, they could've easily just had it come as an effect of the Venom arc. Start him off as fairly big, at 6'3" or something, and then after the Venom scale him up to 6'9" or whatever and let him do all that BS with his stomach acid and whatnot. It's as if Snyder couldn't hold himself back for a couple of issues.
>>150482634You forgot The Emissary
>>150483741My favorite part was when Bruce attached a tube to his stomach so he could squirt acid on some scientist. Absolute Batman is hilariously stupid.
>>150485355>>150484336I feel that all of that was done in favor of making us realize "Holy shit this man is insane."
>>150478054Probably going to cause 3rd impact.
>>150478054>Joker but... PENNYWISEHonestly my first thought was actually Joker but Ultimate Green Goblin, who was also a big monster.
>>150485355Bruce didn't attach a tube to his stomach. Bruce refused to eat so they created a feeding pouch to feed him direct. Something which has been done before to people on hunger strike.
>>150478054There are 3 possibilities here>This form is a Scarecrow hallucination. Snyder confirms Dr Crane is soon coming>This form is a product of Ark M research, evidence of Langstrom genetics and Bane's Venom>This form is mystical in nature, meaning that Joker is either a demon or made a deal with one at some pointWhich outcome do you want?
I'm sure this will be explained in Absolute Evil but the question is how do each of these mega corporations live in shaky harmony, and what do they all want?>Ras Al Ghul runs LAZARUS>Hector Hammond has his corporation >Joker is a successful CEO as well, and funds the Ark M project>Veronica Cale runs Area 41 for the US Government>Elenora Thawne oversees Project Olympus for the US Government
>>150487103All in kahoots for the lulz
>>150478054>right panelSex
>>150478164He visits my house and drops off some carrib delight each weekend.
If he is like Absolute Bane it's not good.
>>150488064gay
>>150487070I'm hoping it's just a metaphor or Scarecrow hallucination, don't like this idea of Joker being a literal demon though I'm aware Snyder wanted to do that before
>>150487070Has the crossover happened yet? What if he's a demon that Wondy helps Bats deal with?
>>150491073knowing how much a hack synder is, it will be very literal
How did Bats know that Roman was on the boat? Was it just luck?
>>150491675Hey, best place to start
>>150487070It can still be a product of Ark M research. Joker uses adrenochrome to rejuvenate himself. Why not make himself into a scary monster like Resident Evil?
>>150487103I thought Ras explained that their goal is to create a master race.
>>150491675If you owned a big boat you'd be on it most of the time too
>>150478054I am collecting data regarding the new polarizing Absolute Batman DC Run, if you could all take a few minutes to fill this out it would be appreciated. If you have any opinions you'd like share this would be the time https://forms.gle/Q8cEuyhC9xoFZBMe9
At this point absolute batman is just Berserk:>brick shithouse MC>MC has horrific luck>most of his foes are disturbing abominations>brown gfWhat is missing?
>>150478164A reclusive billionare isnt going around eating people in the public
>>150492146Why are the age questions literally just children and then 19+? The vast majority of comic book readers are adults, the vast vast minority of readers would be under 16.
>>150492312It doesn't ask age at any point, it asks how long have you read comics.
>>150492312You are retarded, its clearly how many years you've been reading comics for
>>150492216Brown gf hasn’t gotten fucked by another guy yet.
>>150492661>Bruce gets cucked by Jokah Baybee raping Blackpussycat in front of him>she actually creams on the pale demondragoncockWill Bruce then fuck Harley and Ivy to get to Jokah?
>>150492661That's a hell no for me
>>150492146
>>150478054I think it'll just be a metaphor. Sort of how like the early Bane cover had Bane as a literal wall of flesh. But I mean, it also wouldn't be the first time Joker turned himself into a mutated monster to fight Batman. Just don't think this Joker has a reason to be so attached to this Batman to go that far just yet.
>>150485355So this thing was just a midget pretending to be a kid right?
>>150492216Golden Age arc, in-depth characterizations, interesting mini stories, pretty much everything that made Berserk actually good.
>>150478054Everything about Absolute Batman is fucking retarded.
>>150481520Nah, Injustice was retarded but entertaining. This is just embarassing.
>>150487070Occult would be the most fitting against Batman thematically, motif of material (Batman) vs metaphysical (Joker)
>>150478054>>150483741>>150485355Absolute Batman is just Allstar Batman 2.0.
>>150494190>implyingAbsolute is retarded but, keyword, entertaining. It knows it's retarded and leans on it. Injustice is most definitely not. It is smug about its own importance and Taylor is absolutely not capable of self reflection. Snyder is retarded enough to think his writing is the coolest thing ever, but he knows he's writing cool edge above anything else. To pretend that the retardation that's Injustice is anywhere near close Absolute is purely coping.>REEEEE Superman you killed the Joker after he rigged your wife and kid to explode REEEEE you're evil>oh hi Harley you sweet little galWhen this is your very foundation there's nothing that can fix it.
>>150478164I don't think he's tied to Gotham specifically in that universe. He seems more like a global menace.
Are other absolute runs also retarded? Cause I'm digging this.
He fell into a vat of chemicals but only his body went insane. He's just a normal sneaky dude, which makes him perfectly contrast the wacky All-Star v.2 Batman. >>150480073Shartian sharthunter is for people who call comics "graphical novels" and hate fun.
>>150494561That makes the occult/metaphysical angle sound more and more likely
>>150494632Not really. >SupermanUtterly boring and yet another Jason "MY DAD AND GOD SUCK I GREW UP IN THE SOUTH AND IT'S RACIST" Aaron story that's moving at a snail's pace. We're one year in or so and the fucker still hasn't dealt with Ra's Al Ghul who's basically a reskinned Vandal Savage.>Martian MindfuckerIt's technically the best written and most unique, but I can't say that the hype it gets is all that evident to me. It's just a generic cool trippy book. >FlashUtterly inconsequential. The most milquetoast Not!Spider-Man capebook you can imagine.>GLSomehow even more slow than Superman, while looking like a CW show. It's supposed to be "Cosmic Horror" but the entire thing reads like a bunch of storyboards for a small budget adaptation. On top of that the story's not all that intriguing.>Wonder WomanThe best next to Batman. It's not retarded fun, it's just a well written and drawn superhero fantasy book. It's nothing unique, but it's good from every aspect.
>>150494697cool. guess I'll check out WW. that giant sword looked rad.
>>150494635>ur pretentious if you want anything other than objectively shitty writing!Funfags are legitimately retarded, brainless disposable schlock is all they can fathom.
>>150485355>Not him making a bomb out of stale piss and shitAbsolute Bats is as retarded as it is awesome
>>150495621Way of the road, Bubs
>>150478054I like what they're doing with Joker in the Absolute universe. I'm kinda gonna miss them playing their cards so close to their chest and keeping him a mystery, I feel like they could drag it out for a bit longer so we get more villains in the mean time.
>>150495510Maybe read something without pictures
>>150495905>you don't understand the writing has to be absolute dogshit or it won't be fun!The best action movies are the ones that have a bit of thought behind them like Robocop. It doesn't even need to be great writing, the bare minimum is solid with consistent characterizations and Snyder can't even clear that low bar.
>>150494697Martian Manhunter feels like the only one that actually bothered to look at the theming and crafted a story consistent with that. Also it's the only one I feel that actually tried to do a truly unique interpretation of the character instead of making a bunch of surface level alterations. I feel like Dragotta does most of the heavy lifting for Batman because he's a fantastic artist, Snyder can't even keep the "working class Batman" thing tonally consistent despite it being the entire linchpin for this version of the character.
>>150494635>Shartian sharthunter is for people who call comics "graphical novels" and hate fun.I like AMM but I feel like people overpraise it (and in turn you get you types who overhate it)It's a simple enough story told well with relatively distinct art that works in tandem with the story and the characters involved, that's all
>>150496498Considering the absolute state of capeshit these days that puts it well ahead of the competition
>>150483741Finished up to the current issue. That was pretty gnarly way to introduce some classic villains. Still cant get over how retarded pulling his teeth out was. A human mouth doesnt have enough teeth to do what he did. FUck that was stupid. And apparantly he doesnt have any gaps anymore like two issues later???
>>150494632Not really, no. Superman is the one who feels like he's getting tortured in his new origin. But it's sort of whatever for me mostly. I like Braniac but I think he ends up the most entertaining from the reimaginings Superman's characters got. The rest are just dull. Flash is ok but not much more than that. Some interesting visuals but the story feels like it hasn't really even fully begun yet even though it's six issues in. Green Lantern effectively the same but less as it's lead is very dull and it doesn't even have the interesting visuals Flash has. Wonder Woman is technically fine and even has had a first little arc already. It's ok. It's the one I usually end up reading the last when these all update but it's not for disliking it. More so that I'm not in much of a rush to see what happens next. I'm in it since apparently she's going to crossover with Batman eventually so I want to know what's up with her. None of them are the kind of over the top as Batman is.
>>150478054>That Joker demonI'm starting to think Darkseid just has a vendetta against Bruce...
>>150497496this is like the most obvious thing ever, Batman shot Darkseid with a frickin' gun dude!
>>150494697I'd put WW above Batman personally, that art and her design is gorgeous
>>150497496>>150498195>leaves his mum alive>makes him 6'9">gives him tight friendsDarkseid set up Bruce with a sweet deal, all things considered. It's his Ba(u)tism that ruined his life. If anything, I'd say shooting him with the radion bullet made Darkseid respect him somewhat, hence the relatively easier time he gave him compared to the others.
>>150498255>hence the relatively easier time he gave him compared to the othersEasier time? Out of all the Absolute heroes he's having the WORST time next to Clark
>>150494190>Injustice>entertainingonce again, you must be 18 to post on this site
>>150498279Because he went looking for it, which is my point. >base Kal grows up as a lower caste and has his planet explode, but here the Kents don't even raise him>Diana is raised in Hell, albeit Circe is a pretty good mother here, although all the Amazons are dead>Bruce gets a dead dad but a relatively normal life beyond that while also being 6'9"He was still a genius, he had his mum, he had friends. Darkseid didn't fuck him over that much from the get-go. Bruce involved himself in the "game" so to speak.
>>150498333When you phrase it that way, it's kind of funny how Bruce could've avoided ALL of this if he just didn't become batmanHell, his friends even bring it up. All their lives being monumentally ruined both physically and mentally is all because they decided to encourage and even help Bruce with his one-man crusadeAll Bruce had to do was not put on the cowl
>>150494430It's all the art, if Dragotta didn't draw a funny looking roid Batman no one would give a fuck. Snyder is a shitty writer, he fucking sucks. Being "in" on how retarded he is doesn't make it a better read. This shit is as retarded as All-Star Batman, the only difference is he has an actually talented artist doing the heavy lifting for him here.
>>150494697Wonder Woman is boring and overrated, easily the most boring out of all these books. It doesn't do anything interesting with the "what if Wonder Woman was raised by Circe" setup since it's still the exact same Wonder Woman and otherwise feels like the most standard WW story of the 2010s.
>>150497496It really is starting to feel like it. Superman was fucked from the start but Batman was allowed to have friends and core support group he even trusted with his secret identity only for it all to be torn away which feels pretty malicious.
>>150498255Darkseid rose him up, so that he could kick him further down
>>150498496I'm not that familiar with WW, did she always have this knowledge of magic that the Absolute version of her has? I assumed Circe teaching her to be a witch was one of the differences in character she had but I wouldn't know
>>150478054I like Absolute Joker.
>>150498954>did she always have this knowledge of magic that the Absolute version of her has?No
>>150499047>faggots manage to draw even a cannibalistic eldritch wendigo dragon monster as utterly woobified Christ...
Will an absolute justice league form? Are they expected to fight Darkseid one day?
>>150499844It's not that scary bro, better to lean into the goofy instead of take some generic pennywise monster wannabe at face value.
>>150501127>heckin GOOFY I need everything to be SILLY and WACKYJesus Christ why do you infest literally every single part of fiction these days? We get it, you've seen and done it all and the world's a vacant hole; just shut up.
>>150501136>NO YOU GOTTA TAKE MY GENERIC HORROR DEMON SUPER CEREALlol
>>150501181Clowns are allowed to be scaryGargoyles are allowed to be scary DC movies are "punk rock", Absolute comics are "Nu Metal", stop trying to make both into Stomp Clap Hey
>>150501318Do you throw an autism fit when people meme on Pennywise too?
>>150478054>"He never jokes, that's why we call him The Joker"Is Scott Snyder taking the piss?
>>150501108I mean the threats they're dealing with so seem to be on a global scale so it would make sense. That being said, I like Batman on his own so far. Introduce a Wonder Woman or Superman and I don't think the tone can really survive well.
>>150501318>Clowns are allowed to be scaryHahaha>Gaygoysles are allowed to be scaryHAHAHA>Absolute are "Nu Metal"HAAAAHAHAHAHA!
>>150501356No. This specific context I view as an act similar to lovebombing
>>150501467You genuinely like "Stomp Clap Hey" music so your opinion is stale air
>>150501493Wtf even is stomp clap hey? You are making up people in your mind for you to be mad at anon.
>>150501501No really, what is it?I googled it up and all I get are pictures from this faggot.
>>150501501It's the term for the overly upbeat hipster soft rock music that was popular in the 2010s Stuff like Of Monsters and Men, Mumford and Sons, Lumineers
>>150501551Songs like this, anything you could imagine as the background of a car commercial from the 2010s. Popular to hate among modern dipshit music snobs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghb6eDopW8I
Where's Absolute Lex?
>>150498376Asking Bruce to not become Batman is like asking him not to breathe and Darkseid knew it, that's why he gave him such a nice life to begin with, it'll hurt more when he causes all of those things to be destroyed because he can't not dress up like a bat.
>>150478054it should have been him...
>>150502092>Darkseid ruined Bruce utterly by giving him everything he ever wanted, knowing damn well that his own nature would ruin everythingDamn Darkseid...
>>150502009Smallville, he became a farmer and married Lana Lang
>>150502115is there anywhere to see the hq arkham asylum renders
>>150502229>>150502092That's actually fucking brilliant
>>150492216It's literally what Snyder's kids introduced him to
>>150502115It very well may still be. Who knows what form Absolute Joker will actually take. Could even take multiple.
>>150503973pretty sure his transformation will be triggered by laughing, hence him not doing it
>>150502092>>150502229I don't believe Darkseid designed this universe, merely willed it to be. Everything that exists here simply is so he has a space to heal and then claim the mainline Earth
Absolute DC proved to me that we need to give comic writers more creative freedom
>>150504577They have all the freedom in the world in their creator-owned work that nobody cares about.
>>150481520I hated the first issues because they were exactly what you describe. With awful, terrible art. But as the story progressed and they rebelled into edgyretard territory it became charming. And now its so over the top is grimretard kino. All the absolute comics are bad, but this one is fun.
>>150486987That’s what it reminded me of thank you it’s been bugging me for like 4 days.
>>150494037THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
