I don't think it was
>>150488108Yeshttps://youtu.be/1bqUrN3ao58
>>150488108Not remotely.
I honestly feel like if Youngblood actually got that anime cartoon they would be popular
>>150488157Wild CATS had a cartoon and they are still literal nobodies. Young Blood and Cyberforce were also cockblocked into not getting cameos in Invincibles cartoon too no one fucking cares about these teams
>>150488179Wild CATS and other things like the Authority are also stuck in DC gay baby jail
I always find it funny the decade with the bulk of Hellblazer, Sandman, The Invisibles, and Preacher is called the worst. Yes the shelves were flooded with Image books that didn't sell, but there was a lot of stuff that made a huge impact in comic history
>>150488292Dont forget Trans Metropolitan or a lot of 2000AD works, The Maxx, Bone.
>>150488319That's true, The Maxx is one of my all time favorites
I just think alt capeshit wasnt the best idea to push it in. Only Spawn truly exceled everything else suffered badly Young Blood especially is the worst example of the era
>>150488292I've come to find that when people are talking about the 90's sucking, they actually just mean Marvel for a period of like 20 months in the early 90s. And, more and more, I see a lot of people doing what more or less what the OP is but more obnoxiously.
>>150488367man Marvel has always been garbage comic wise huh? Even DC had Justice League international, or Hitman
>>150488367I think a lot of it is Image and Valiant, and that whole Deathmate crossover debacle
>>150488383Ennis Punisher and Fury are incredible.
>>150488383>HitmanHitman only exists from DCs own little 90s shitshow of Bloodlines trying to push new 90s edge heroes so they arent clean either
>>150488383Marvel honestly only truly has really good eye catching characters with somewhat good intro stories that boil over into utter ass the longer it goes on
>>150488383Dixon Punisher and Foolkiller are good 90s Marvel comics.>>150488438And? Hitman is still good.
>>150488179Wildcats and Savage Dragon had cartoons aimed at kids, that just got lost in the sea of superhero cartoons in the early 90s. There was a Cyberforce cartoon in development at Fox, but it was killed by Marvel making a deal with Fox that they wouldn't have any non-Marvel superhero cartoons. There are claims that the same deal killed the Youngblood cartoon that was in development, but IIRC Liefeld himself has said that the project fell apart because the studio were trying to make a kiddie cartoon like Wildcats and Savage Dragon got, while he wanted to do something that was more, well, extreme.
>>150488383Marvel has always stood in contrast as the "alt company" to DC's "Clean Cut" and with it all the excesses and flaws that comes with it.However during times where they had actually good editorial that could manage the creatives it was golden. However their has been more bad eras of editorial than good.
>>150488292It's always retards who just look at some events and Liefeld and think that was the whole decade
>>15048904290s comics threads tend to attract genuine, unironic fans of 90s extreme era comics, people who were around in the 90s and were too old for cape comics even back then but are still seething about those damn kids and their 90s extreme all these decades later, younger people who got all their opinions on 90s comics from some Youtuber who was mocking 90s comics and pretending things are better now, and people who were reading non-superhero books in the 90s like Vertigo titles and aren't really even having the same conversation as everyone else, it's not like most of those guys think cape comics from other decades are good either.
>>150489300The 90s for all its faults was always at least trying to be cool. Pick most any creator and they were making comics because they liked comics. I put that over the 2000s we want to tv and movie writers crap any day
>>150488845The way Liefeld tells it on his podcast is the same person who approached Jim Lee about a WildCATs cartoon came to him first about doing Youngblood. The exec wanted just an X-Men copy but Liefeld wanted to do something else, namely live-action wraparound at the start and end of the show. The exec was like no we just want to do like the X-Men cartoon but Liefeld was like that won’t last past one season so he declined. The exec went to Jim Lee who signed off on the X-Men rip off show that lasted one season. But I mean this is all according to Liefeld so maybe take with a grain of salt
>>150488923>Marvel has always stood in contrast as the "alt company”Man, I miss that. I think that’s what I hate most about the MCU is how sanitized it made all the Marvel characters like Spider-Man begging to join the Avengers. Bleh.
>>150489861This is very true. There's a sincerity and genuine effort to entertain the audience, comics made by people who loved comics and wanted to specifically work in comics. Look at the contrast with the people who just want to use comics as a stepping stone to Hollywood, or the people who just want to use comics as a vehicle to spread The Message.>>150490034>But I mean this is all according to Liefeld so maybe take with a grain of saltHis opinions on things may to be divisive, but his behind the scenes accounts of events he was involved in tend to be reliable. There are a few preview clips of Youngblood animation on Youtube, and a game demo from later in the 90s.
>>150490055You know Spider-Man tried to join the Avengers several times in the comics before he actually got in, right?
>>150490267He wasn’t begging to be let in and calling Iron Man “Mr Stark” or blowing up Jarvis’s phone about going on missions with them
>>150488108It certainly took a big and that was more or less the decade that black and white comics died.
>>150490484Unfortunately I think this direction isn't just a Spider-Man thing. I think street level books were at their peak in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. Ever since that point they've tried to make Punisher an assassin for The Hand, Spider-Man keeps getting dragged into cosmic events, everything is too grand scale. Sometimes you just need a story that doesn't hinges on a world ending threat or cosmic or multiverse shit.
>>150488383Most 60's-70's Marvel stuff aged better than most DC stuff from that era--not all, and it's not often great, but DC was like spinning in circles for most of their books for decades. Reading Ditko Spider-man and then going to a dC book from that era is like night and day.
>>150490915Most outlaw comics like Faust stayed black and white
>>150488108not really there were still good comics coming out like bone, hellboy, astro city, starmman, the maxx, and vertigo was still publishing titles like sandman, hellblazer, preacher and the invisibles
no
>>150488108It was a mixed bag.
Like >>150488140 posted, Superman was great because the triangle(around the 97 with Blue got worse) and David's Supergirl , we also had O'neil Batman (and Dixon's Robin and Nightwing), and Kyle GL(even though Geoff, Priest and Engleheart has better runs) loebser and Waid's Flash and Loebser Wonder Woman. And all Vértigo and JL was one of thenon-International Big 7 team not being boring.In the Marvel side , I liked ASM 400 and JMD/Kelly/Kesel Daredevil was better than 90% of the 00s Daredevil.And Supreme was decent to read.Tldr : every decade has the good and bad books
