https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCAdbUaMlAEShe’s cute.
>>150489114That still frame looks like a polished turd from /ic/. Why's her left hand and arm so weird?
nearly 8 million viewsholy shit
>>150489610I think it's the wacky sci-fi/fantasy dress making both of the arms look weird at a glance
>>150489114i very much dislike the enby main character.
>>150490688>enby main characterIt's a robot.
>>150490721you know who im talking about
>>150490773No...? Neither of the human characters struck me as "enby." You mean the short one in overalls? I thought she was just a tomboy.
Andi is Filipina? I thought she was Indian
Where does one put Olivia on the needs correction scale?
>>150489114is this the show about angry lesbian disney adults?
>>150491171Every Filipino has those giant spoon and fork in their kitchen.
>>150491235>Every Filipino has those giant spoon and fork in their kitchen.Wait, this isn't a racist joke?!https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Giant_decorative_wooden_spoons_and_forks_from_Bukidnon,_Philippines.jpg
>>150489114The tortured robot is the prototype. Its personality is an engram of Olivia's mother, who died in that process. She keeps trying to escape/destroy herself because the human mind inside the robot body just isn't compatible and it drove her insane.>>150490688>>150490721>>150490773>>150490843It seems pretty clear to me that Frank is a tranny. The old salt calls her 'Franklin', the other humans say 'Frank' or 'Frankie', the only ones that used an actual female name were Guin(s) and the little robots, but those were from Frank's warped delusional/hallucinogenic perspective.
>>150491502That's cute. Who do those feed?
>>150491521>FranklinYou are aware that Franklin is a surname, right?>It seems pretty clear to me that Frank is a tranny.Oh, you're a transvestigator.
>>150489610And yet they made it, while the crabs are still in their bucket. Funny how that works.
>>150491521She clearly has massive breasts, larger than Guinevere's. Also, her little schizo plushies refer to her as "Lady Frankie". She strikes me as the kind of blue collar worker who still dreams of twirling around in a princess dress, which I find adorable.
>>150491538Don't know what you mean by that, but whatever. The main thing that makes me think she's trans is just the way the old man says "Franklin". That delivery sounds like he's intentionally dead naming her to get under her skin.>Franklin can be a surname>Francesca Franklineh...>>150491566>massive breastsHer build is pretty ambiguous, imo. She's short and stocky, like a fantasy dwarf. Kinda just barrel shaped overall.>"Lady Frankie"One of them also calls her "Francesca" at 14:06, which is the same name the Guin(s) called her.
>>150491753Not the first time a character has an alliterative name
>>150491753>the way the old man says "Franklin". That delivery sounds like he's intentionally dead naming herShe was called "Francesca" as a kid though. If anything, it'd be a comment on how butch she is
>>150491773True.>>150491824Like I said, that was by a Guin and it was in the colorful schizo filter of Frank's perspective. Trans or not, the show very much wants you to know she's not mentally stable/normal.
Is Glitch saving animation?
>>150491753Francesca is her government name, the one that Guinevere has on her file. So far, only Sparky calls her "Franklin", and there's simply not enough information to decide why he calls her that instead of Francesca. It could be another nickname, it could be something else.
You may only choose one.
I think its hilarious how when Dana was going over the boarding process she demanded not one, not two but 3 scenes of just random factories polluting the atmosphere. Like she really wanted to nail it home "LOOK AT HOW MUCH OF A SHITHOLE THIS PARK IS! ITS MORE LIKE CHINA THEN AN ACTUAL THEME PARK FACTORIES EVERYWHERE THE OZONE DESTROYED!"Like it borderlines itself like youre watching Captain Planet. One factory shot didnt get the point of cross between all those different shots and then just for added measure likes have a scene of them dumping garbage into the ocean. Like its cartoonish Ted Turner levels of evil.
>>150491558Are you saying it's impossible for them to make mistakes?Do you personally have any technical complaints about the pilot?
>>150491876Looks like it. It's not even a competition:>CNgave up>Netflixgave up>DTVAgave up>Nickelodeonall sponge all the time>Foxfeeds its zombies: simpsons, bob's, the macfarlane sharts
What is the blue? Why do they need it for bots?
>>150491908Tapir easy
>>150491908Tapir
>>150491908Penguin. It's cute.
>>150491908Andi's just going to pick the hard counter to whatever I pick, isn't she?
>>150491934Synthetic blood. Could be hydraulics, cooling, lubrication, some kind of liquid battery, etc. or all of the above. Could also be that the robots are bio-mechanical abominations made from aliens.
>>150490773Frankie is your average blue collar heterosexual woman. Masculinized by her environment but still a girl into girl things.
do not respond to Disney shills, ABC lost, Trump lost, cope
>>150491908ride or die with pink tapir
>>150491914It's pretty typical corporate dystopia, just instead of everything being run by military tech companies, it's the entertainment industry.
>>150491971This series has the potential to be so fucking sad
>>150491914>fish milkI kinda wanna try that out
>>150491924where???gib please
>>150491997This feels like if I was watching Wall-E but they made Eve a Disney Princess with an actual vagina that you can ram your pecker into multiple different exciting ways instead of just fucking the robot equivalent of a thermos
>>150491521> It seems pretty clear to me that Frank is a trannyIf Frankie was supposed to be trans they would have 100% used a trans voice actor. She doesn’t read as trans anyway, but that seems to be the nail in the coffin as far as I’m concerned. So far your only evidence is that Sparky calls her “Franklin”.
>>150491984She could crush you like a pbr can
>>150491908Penguin because it reminds me of a Piplup who wants to be steely like an Empoleon
>>150492002>>150492017>>150492028>>150492036wtf lol
>>150491171Ambiguous brown woman strikes again…
>>150492017>HO!!!!! dis is...... NOT CUTE
I wish loli Olivia to play with my intestines while I´m concious.
>>150492079Someone is gonna draw that. Olivia looking disgusted as the persons intestines shes pulling results in their face looking like the crying emoji.
>>150492018https://x.com/newguy1091/status/1969535455684149314
>>150492032Too bad her face kinda sucks
>>150492091Fucking hell, anon.
Haven't watched it yet. How faggy is it/ looking to be? Im guessing all the queer relationships are front and center and good and righteous?
>>150489114Why did dykena's knight of turdvere flopped? It didn't even hit trending after one day.
>8 million views in 2 daysNo wonder incels are screeching
>>150489114Broke 8 million views!
>>150492207It has a mildly SU aesthetic. No explicit romance so far. One of the main characters is schizophrenic and the other is ambiguous brown. As you can see from earlier discussion, the schizo may or may not be a flaggot, but so it's not really relevant.
you guys think that Frankie's overalls are broken because it couldn't hold both of her boobs in
>>150492207You are correct. I don't know even how they could fit all that lesbian sex in a youtube video, but that's Glitch for ya.
>>150492258Hard labor job(s)+poor=food and rent is more important than new clothes that get ruined by work anyway.
>>150492207Frankie's evil employer is gay. Frankie herself clearly has a thing for pricesses.
>>150492207It's super gay, the main characters are in a relationship, so is the old lady and the princess, also the MCs and the princess are gonna be a lesbian polycule that will later involve the old lady and also the old guy because they're pansexuals. By the way your dad is also a lesbian.
>frankie in a princess gown
>>150492278Is Sparky not her dad?Also, just because a girl is into princesses doesn’t make her gay.
>>150492129Pussy
>>150491753>>150491860>>150491879I'm gonna point out that most trans people don't just switch to a feminine/masculine version of their birth name when they transition and I don't see Dana + the guys making that sort of writing decision. It'd just be weird.
I like the way Frankie holds her.
>>150492258Yes.Also, more frankie boobies.
One of the BG designers posted this
>>150492293>frankie Marilyn Monroe dress with no air vent in a princess gown
>>150492300Sparky's gay so probably not? Unless you mean adopted.>>150492345heh
what is this? some vivziepop type shit?
>>150492287Nice bait
>>150492226>>150492240We'll reach the 20 by next weekend, just you wait and see.
>>150492315It’s the truth
>>150492400Make silly questions, get silly answers
A thing that would be neat is if they kinda fixed up Guinevere: get her skin back on and maybe some limbs. Then she gets damaged again in a different way. So they partially fix that, too. Have Gwen change up her looks by a cycle of damage and repair.
>>150492428Changing your physical appearance won´t make the psychological trauma go away.
>>150492428I hope she gets her huge gazongas back
I think I say something mentioning the detail of her pupils. I like the contrast.
>half hair againwe can't escape this shit in indieslop either
>>150492386Glitch Productions
>>150492568But this one actually makes sense since it's a literal "just fuck my shit up senpai"
>>150492568She's literally a scrapped android
>>150492345i think sparky needs better taste in guys
>>150491984>heterosexual womanno such things exist in modern media
>>150492345>bottom rightGod I want to be__ him
>8.1million viewsPeople seem to like Gwen's show. >>150491914The seethe is funny, but it's also accurate.
Olivia Paheal is ok.
>>150492751>>150491914Dana reacting this way makes way more sense when you uncover the Belos conspiracy and realize that Phillip-Belos was a massive nonsensical writing blunder caused by Disney’s influence.It’s no wonder she doesn’t want to do anything with Owl House or Disney ever again. This show has a lot of the elements she wanted the owl house to have that Disney removed.
>>150492568She’s like this because she’s badly hurt. And the girls want to repair her.
>>150491908These characters exist just to sell toys, right? The fact that in world they are mascots featured in propaganda for the evil theme-park-ocracy makes selling merch pretty absurd.
>>150492699He's hunting for scraps, that's his thing
>>150491914That factory isn't the park though, it's part of the city on the ground that processes all of the park's waste and recycles it into new toys. The blue goo is fucking giga poisonous of course the air is fucked.
>>150491521I see what you mean, and you're not wrong, but Dana is 100% going for the old school tomboy thing thats he grew up on and low key tries to pull off herself. Things have just been so wokefied that seeing anyone stray outside of le heckin girl boss usually means they're trans these days. I assume there will be some obnoxious Tumblr people trying to not so passive aggressively force Dana into "confirming" they're trans but so far it looks like she wants them to just be girls that are friends.
>>150491753It could be him just giving her shit for not being feminine enough. I used to know a girl named Vicky that everyone called "Big Vic" until she got really upset about it.
>>150492872Is it really bad for the environment if the whole planet was a barely inhabitable shithole to begin with
>>150491876It looks like it, and I'm loving it because I could read the room and see it was probably going to head in that direction even though everyone insisted it was impossible for anyone except a major Hollywood studio to make animated properties.
>>150492893There's a big difference between the environment being sterile desert and it being actively full of toxic biohazardous waste. The blue goo and whatever paints and plastics and other industrial byproducts of it are clearly poisoning the population.
>>150491879I think Sparky's just gay and hates women. He's reading a Playgirl in his intro scene
>>150491876The main ability they did was… not trying to shill a series for more than one season.
>>150491908I'll place the Penguin Soldier face down in Defense Position, then end my turn.
>>150492907Weirdly enough it's the scrawny gal who got the space aids even though Frankie is the one who grew up on the. trash barge, as it seems
>>150492324I-I want to hold Franky like that bros...
>>150491914Well, they do own an entire county in Florida, I'm sure they do horrible things to the land. I'd roll my eyes, but if Disney wants me to shell out $15k to go stand in line for 18 hours I don't care how much they get crap talked.
Full admittance, I wasn't looking forward to this one but after watching it and seeing the environmental art and tone, I was sold. And hey, I also got Space King 3 on the way. It is a good time to like indie animation.
>>150492864kek
>>150492880The pronoun posse already made a stab at it but I think it's already been confirmed that Frankie and Andrea are both women, and are not in sesbians with eachother, they're just long time friends and roomates. And as much as we meme it and will be drawing porn of it, their affection for Guinevere is clearly rooted in childhood nostalgia and fantasy, there is no obvious lesbian lust between them and Gwen either. It's like saying every guy who ever went to a Star Wars convention to see Mark Hamil because Luke is their childhood hero MUST be gay (only half of them are). >>150492928She has been working in the lab, she might've been exposed to a more concentrated or dangerous variety of blue goo than the ambient toxins that are just kicking around in the air and water. Plus she's emaciated, doesn't get enough sleep and is constantly stressed, she's even prematurely greying in what seems to be her twenties. She's going to be more vulnerable to toxins. Frankie seems physically extremely sturdy so while she would surely be in better health in a non-polluted environment it would probably take a much worse dosage for her to physically show signs of it. On the OTHER hand maybe the effects just aren't the same, she IS persistently hallucinating all the time.
Someone' cranky.
So are all the robutts partially organic? That was blood from the night and (one of) the OG Guinevere had guts.
I like how Frankie has a realistically beefy bodytype, like one of those Russian farm worker grannies. Usually when a character designer wants to make one of these kinds of cahracters they either give them a man shape or make them bodybuilders
It's probably been mentioned already but I'm just now checking into the threads. Does anyone have any guesses as to what's up with Andi's spit being blue when she shakes hands with Sparky? The direction of the scene and the focus on Sparky's hand makes me think there's something more to it. 19:25 in the Pilot
>>150493004She's infected with "Blue Lung". Everyone that works in the park gets it eventually.
>>150493004She’s got Blue Lung like the worker she had an argument with in public.She’s sacrificed her dignity to work for the park and now she has no job to pay for what is probably a long term decline.
>>150493013Oh right, I think I remember the warning signs for Blue Lung when they showed off the industrial complex for the park. I'm not sure how I failed to put 2-and-2 together initially, cheers.
>>150492975I don't think they're "naturally" organic, my speculation is that they're like the synthetics in the Alien-verse. Some of their components are so lifelike that if you just spill them out on a table they LOOK like they could be from a living thing, but it's all still synthetic material and macro-components, if you get it under a microscope you're not going to see individual cells or anything. Gwen has organs in her abdomen but clearly doesn't need them to function because damaged Gwen is totally eviscerated and has been laying on the bottom of the lake for some unknown amount of time before Frankie finds her, and can still move if she really needs to.
>>150492862Yeah. It's kind of ironically hilarious that the thing that destroyed American animation was taking away the "we did all of this just for the toys" element and the thing that's saving it is creating a model that can't exist without every show "doing it just for the toys."
>>150492975OG Gwen is at least. Whether that makes her super special or it's how they all work remains to be seen.
>>150493013I was under the impression the blue stuff was kind of like Krokodil. I wonder if she's huffing it while in the lab?
>>150492258You make a compelling argument anon. Any more points you can make?
>>150492345>MISS YOU SPARKYSo can we assume that aside from the foldout with the drink going down his chest that looks like it came from a magazine that Sparky fucked all these dudes?God damn he's got game.
>>150493072Its a not a drug, its pollution from the factories. Theres stuff laid out within the episode showing it wrecking havoc on everyone and everything.
Oh wow sports
>>150492345I want that cute guy with dreads covering his eyes.
>>150492345Kek at the gay Pomni
>>150492385> Sparky's gay so probably not? You think gay men have never had kids before?
I'm hooked only to find out what the fuck kind of heat/weaponry Gwen is packing to kill the Knight.
Maybe Sparky isn't such a bad guy after all...
>>150492975They can feel and express pain, for some reason. There's something fishy about these robots, for sure.
>>150493116The thing that made me raise an eyebrow is that gwens seem to have blue blood (Might tie into the blue lung) and big guy had red blood.
>>150493105The XOXO hidden by the cords makes me think he's one of the actors at the park above taking a nude to give to Sparky. I can't believe my gay criminal old man fucked a fucking CROWNIE! I thought he was /Our Guy/...
>>150491502/co/nsumers don't know what salad tongs are
>>150493104>>150493114>>150492345fag shit
>>150493138yeh, so?
>>150493143NEEDGUINEVERELAP PILLOWAAAAAAA
Damaged Gwen but with a normal Gwen's heavy udders.
>>150493134I keep seeing comments about red blood. Have people confirmed if it was really red and not a result of the lighting because of the fire?
>>150493143>she sees your dick
>>150493145He looks like Carl there
>>150493168Something that's blue even under harsh red lighting won't look like that.Plus, it was seeping into the darkened elevator with the door's closed and the blood smeared over the glass, it's red.
>>150493143Imagine if one of these malfunctioned and had sex with a child
Huh, so is this worth watching after all? Color me surprised.
I was hoping this was a Guinivere and the Jewel Riders revival
nobody pointed out that Gwen already knew their names
>>150493200I can chalk that up to dystopian corporation having access to databases that governments have/had.
>>150493200Gwen is a part of a mass surveillance network as told by Orville in the ad they've shown
>>150493222Man that dude on the top is ugly
I didn't like this one bit. What's the appeal?
>>150493235I like the setting and machine/body horror is my jam. What didn't you like about it?
>>150493200kind of reminds me of how companies collect and share data of their customers with each other to form a digital profile of each individual. If you do one thing on one website, another website starts catering more products they think you might like, etc. etc.
>>150493200I think it's quite obvious that they have a database that Gwen is connected to. Be it for the general population or the park goers.
>>150493175>Hey Andi thanks for shakin' my hand there. Got all that blue lung crap on it now, thanks for that.>You know this don't wash off right? I gotta wait for the skin on that hand, TO DIE, now.
>>150491502I never that before, I never owned it
>>150489114Knight of flopping shit
>>150493264Mommy...
Babymaking sex with Frankie to give her a son she could share all her innocent fantasies with could fix her.
>>150493280WIFEWIFEEEEE
>>150493292I feel like Frankie would feed her baby bolts.
>>150493253>>150493264Gwen is my biggest chip in this bet. So far her character is what I look forward the most in this series
>>150493235muh mystery box
>>150493311Anon she's silly and childish. Not retarded.
>>150489114A reminder that this is Frankie's voice actor. Puke.
>>150493311Are you saying she's dumb as bricks, or that she'd make a robo-baby?
>>150493253>>150493264>>150493318Wait, why would they make a pretend princess machine be able to take down a giant killer robot? That doesn't compute.>>150493326No, but she is shizophrenic.
>>150493335Neither, just that she's crazy. Her makinga robot baby isn't improbable however.
>>150493334holy shit
>>150493334Am I supposed to give a damn what the VOICE actor looks like?
>>150493256I don't remember that Knights of Guinevere character...
lotta seafood, which I guess makes sense given the setting is a port harbor.
>>150493354How sanitary would they be if they're fishing in the same place where they pull out scrapped Gwens?
Kiss your Frankie all better.
>>150493334So? As if you looked any better
>>150491566>She clearly has massive breastsI don't think Frankie is trans but that's not really proof of anything, you can get some pretty large bazongas on E, especially if you're heavyset anyway.>>150492892>everyone called "Big Vic" until she got really upset about it.That's a shame, there's something weirdly endearing to me about girls with a guy name. I blame an early crush on an Andi I guess.
>>150493334And? she's cute
>>150492976Frankie mating press Guinevere in that position when?
>>150493375mwah
>>150493334so?I want to fugg Frankie, not her voice
What the fuck is his problem?
>>150493400>What the fuck is his problem?Literally who and why should we care?
Reminder that Frankie and Andi will kiss Gwen's soft, smoochable lips. The princess will court both her precious knights.
>>150493406some salty animator that threatened Dana at knife point bc she didn't want to go out with him.
>>150493384>gwen's face unmoving>stuck in that placid smile and dead unmoving gaze while getting fucked and used>this gets gets frankie going even moreImagine.
>>150493334NGL, I thought this was prozd for a second
>>150493413Mommy kisses for Frankie and Andi desu
>>150493422ProZD rule 63
If she called me her knight I would melt like jelly.
>>150489114ngl, I find it hard to see how this will have a good ending. The characters largely live in poverty on a dead planet.
>>150493337>No, but she is schizophrenia.Frankie just has to be like a momma bird and chew the food first to see if it is real food before feeding it to the baby, just in caseSurely don't want her feeding the baby engine oil instead of baby food or something
>>150493453I think it would be funny if Gwen pets Franky with her hand, but only touches Andi with her tentacles
>>150493456And one of the main characters is already dying of space tuberculosis.
I had to rewatch a couple times to realize that Frankie was actually acting kinda schizo in the kitchenShe seemed like she was talking to imaginary friends while watching a video, but then we see she was actually staring at a static tv with nothing on it and still talking to the stuffed animals like there were actually there until Andi snapped her out of itAre there like toxic chemicals that mess with peoples brains and causing hallucinations as well as sickness or is Frankie just a legit schizo?Looking forward to finding out more
Have some Gwens.
>>150493145>>150493175>What the hell happened to my friggin boat?!?
>>150493143>>150493159>>150493253>>150493264>>150493352Seriously. I will be shocked if the knights don't end up simping for their liege. She's so perfect.
>>150493145>>150493175Fuck i gotta draw that now.
>>150493382I'm biased because Frankie reminds me of this stocky girl I was kinda into in highschool, but is that possible given their situation? Frank and Andi seem to barely manage as is, can they really spare for estrogen? Like, Frankie is clearly unmedicated.
>>150493479I'm not sure if it was a schizo episode or if she just blanked out from thinking too hard for too long and let the tv run its programming until staticThe stuff animals are 100% schizo though
>>150493406Ex-Industry professional with a long laundry list of just stupid shit he did so no one tolerates him or hires him. He’s mostly known for drawing self-ship art with Pearl and drawing Rebecca/Ian giving him “their blessings.” also stalking several women in the industry. Continues his same unhealthy obsessions that got him labeled a creep in the first place. /co/ doesn’t put up with him because he tried coming in here one time to get people to lick his boots and he got a verbal beat down instead. It was funny.
fwanky
>>150493514>that backgroundclassic
>>150493318Same. Easily the most interesting and entertaining character with the most to explore. Seems clear to me that's intentional, since the show kinda revolves around her and all.
>>150493497They done chopped Ballerina Gwen's arm off
>>150493479>Are there like toxic chemicals that mess with peoples brains and causing hallucinations as well as sickness or is Frankie just a legit schizo?It might be both. Mental disorders are always both environmental and nature. The world is clearly polluted and there has been some studies that indicate air pollution adversely affects brain function, such as that exposure in childhood can increase risk of neurological ailments such as depression and skizoprenia. We don't know how long the state of the world has been like that, but given Gwen was already there when Andi and Frank were kids, it's probably safe to say it's been going on for generations.
MY PRINCESS THOU LOOKST SADDENED. IF THOU WOULDST ALLOWST MINESELF THEST HONOREST I WOULD TAKE THINE HEAVY BURDENS SO THY MAY REST THINE WEARY BOSOM ON MINEST HANDS.
>>150493334Jesus...
>>150491908why is space cat so underrated
>>150493533Fuck off Arthur.
>>150493529This would explain why Olivia has sociopathic fits of violence>Maybe building thousands of factories all over the park is causing my daughter to fall deep into incurable psychosis. Hmmm...nah. I should build more factories.
>>150493533>You... you don't have to talk like that. Please stop.
>cuddling your cold corpse robot wife at night>feeling her cold torn coolant delivery tubes curl around your form as she beckons you closer>looking into her dead eyes and not seeing a single spark of life in them yet knowing she loves you regardless
>>150493539I think with Olivia, the environmental exposure is probably minimal due to her high upbringing and presumably easy access to a wide array of medicine. I would probably attribute her whole thing as more rooted in traumatic childhood experiences and an obsession over Gwen, of which feels both parental and sexual in nature. There didn't seem to be a mom in the picture so Gwen could have been used a parental substitute.
>>150493548>NUH UH
>>150493537Right? "Bite the hand that feeds!" alone is prime meme fodder. Kitty craves the blood of tyrants.
>>150493539Eh I don't think so, I think she just is that way. All young children are functional sociopaths insofar as they are deliberately pushing the limits of acceptable behavior as a mechanism to prompt their parents to show them where those lines are supposed to be. She didn't view Guinevere as a sentient being who could feel pain, she's just ripping her "dolls" apart because she is trying to process whatever that traumatic event was and Orville having infinite resources but no parenting capability is just feeding her abnormal behaviors. He doesn't know what to do so he just spends money on her in the mistaken idea that indulging her whims will make her happy and bring her back to normality. I think if she were dangerously exposed to blue goo she would've died by now, considering how frail her health clearly is. If it were caused by exposure to the toxins she'd be suffering the same kind of sickness as the blue lung guy Andrea runs into, but she doesn't have any blue bruising and isn't coughing up blue residue. She just seems old and senile.Unfortunately a lot of old people who hit senility do just regress into being emotionally unstable babies again.
>>150493564got chills from this image desu
>>150493556No she's been all up in that blue shit. The moment it got all over her hands it was over. A spoiled child wanting to break her toys and make them suffer gave herself an incurable disease and her dad didn't have the heart to tell her "sweetie that blue shit is toxic. I know you wanna rip the guts out of your robots mortal kombat style but you now have the fantasy equivalent of a 500 gallon drum of microplastic in your body now."
>>150493573would it be toxic enough to seep into her skin through her hands or with regular exposureif that's the case she definitely should've been wearing a hazmat suit at least when touching the blue blood
>>150493538>Dark SoulsYou say that, but this whole pilot gives off Epic Mickey vibes. But unlike other products that try to be Disney but edgy, KoG doesn't come off as tryhard, which I chalk up to the creators having direct experience working under the mouse. The commentary is much more pointed and accurate.
>>150493573True, but she would be afforded the best level of healthcare and the world seems advanced enough to ensure she'll live. Perhaps that's why her older version seems so ill. The treatments were successful in keeping her alive, but it must be agony for her.
>>150493567Olivia was soaking her hands in that shit and still lived to the ripe old age of 100 years old but she is so beyond frail she's like a female Mr Burns. She's using super expensive experimental rich people medicine to keep her alive but she's senile now because of all that air pollution and blue shit she breathes in.
>>150493586That shit literally turns your blood to poison Olivia would need hourly blood transfusions in order to get that shit out of her body and she would need fresh unpolluted blood to stay alive for one more day.
>>150489114Honestly theres not much to it beyond "DISNEY BAD" the worldbuilding is bad, characters aren't terrible but they're also not terribly interesting, and then reading this thread and learning who was behind this it was made pretty clear this is just made out of pure spite, but like with no actual real thought or any real critism, just pure spite and hate, and because of that it just ends up a bit flat.Basically, it looks pretty but says basically nothing, which is ironic because that makes it very much like the Disney it criticizes so much.
>>150493592Nah, the parks clearly fly above all that shit and her room is the penthouse suite of the tallest structure in the park. She isn't evil and crazy from the blue blood sickness, she's evil cause she's emotionally maladjusted and neglected and she's crazy cause she's a senile old woman.
>>150493607Anon, this is a story that exists to shit on the Walt Disney Company. Do you really think we're not going to get a scene where Olivia "convinces" some rando peasant to "donate" their literal blood to her? Come on.
>>150493550Need that.
>>150493618And because she has blue shit in her body. Its eating away at her mind as well as her body
>>150493636There's no evidence of that, she doesn't show any of the consistent symptoms we see in other sick people.
>>150493622>Olivia onions greens the underclass and then filters their blood and the toxin and then adds it to her own body not understanding that since that blood was hopelessly nasty all it does it make her more sick.
>>150493609you said this already, moron
>>150493646See, you get it. God I can't wait for more Olivia screentime. She's already shaping up to be a great villain. Love me a good old piece of shit antagonist.
>>150493659Ep 2 will take a year and a half to release
>>150493400>gay niggers are so anti-woke they're defending fucking Disneyhate to see it
>>150493493First glitch character I'd actually vote for in ms. /co/. I hope the show doesn't ruin her.
>>150493672>this cat
>>150493670Plenty of time to improve mein arte
Frankie breaking your dick as she rides you at night
>>150492207Yes, there are ambitious no gender conforming lesbians
Gonna assume the scene from the teaser will be episode 2. This is the part I am most looking forward to, since this sold me and many others on the show instantly.
Disney wonMatt Braly won
>>150493739Yeah it looks like that default programming isn’t going to last long and Gwen is going to realize how fucked up she is and freak out.
Sex with tired wagies
I just wish their voice actors were better. Gwen was fine though
>>150493114>male slampig
>>150493826I originally presumed that it was just a catastrphic error that was causing the freak out, but I do love the idea of Gwen's real personality asserting herself. Breaking the shackles being a painful and dangerous process makes sense and would make for great drama.
>>150493852The dialogues could definitely use improvement too. They felt jarringly unauthentic. Sparky's lines and VA were serviceable too though.
>>150493833You will help her relax with back rubs and cuddles after a rough day at work, won't you, anon?
>>150493875Yeah he wasn't bad either. I agree about the dialogue
>>150493658this was my first post in this thread, guess it just means more feel the same way, it's probably gonna have its moment but there really isn't much there to work with for future episodes unless they take a very different turn and actually work on making the setting and characters actually interesting which I don't think they're gonna do.Disney bad is also just such a nothing statement.
>>150493779And you keep losing every day
>>150493875>They felt jarringly unauthenticthere was something off about them but I can't quite articulate why.
So who are they selling the merchandise shit to? They mention other planets, is this planet where the park is just a shit hole?
>>150493859Get yourself a man that's a heater in winter.
>>150493678I don’t see them defending Disney, I see them pointing something out.
>>150493928>is this planet where the park is just a shit hole?yes it's meant to be LA / California
>>150493354I wanna have them in my aquarium
>>150493456Maybe it will have a cyberpunk edgerunner ending
Frankie's big, fat and sweaty ass.
>>150493895>over his headI'm saying your commentary and bitching is as just as uninspired and says nothing, Disney shill.
>>150492342>>150493085>Any more points you can make?quite, you see, it is logical
I'm curious as to what the rest of the planet is like beyond the shadow of the theme park and M7. It has a breathable, oxygenated atmosphere and gravity of 1G, it can't be all that bad to live there.
>>150494177>big nipplesBased taste but this is a dangerous game you're playing.
>>150494185The planet was supposed to be Earth, right? Or is there a chance that it was terraformed?
>>150489610john k was in almost every way a retard, but he was right that realistic human anatomy is not a great fit for animation.>>150491521>tumblr woke got so distanced from reality, it forgot regular misogyny against real women existschecks out lel
>>150494135>bitchingI'm not bitching, I'm just saying it's just kinda medicore, if others have said the same then it's says something about the show>Disney shill.what are you some dumb fangirl? me saying a meh show is meh doesn't mean I shill for Disney, or can't you handle someone not finding a show interesting when all it has to say is "fuck this thing" and not go any further?
Gwen and Frankie’s feet
footfags are a plague upon this website and should be crushed underfoot
>>150494240>underfootANON, NO
>>150494240>crushed underfoot
>>150491171>>150491235But Filipinos are yellow!
How many people on the crew are Owl House vets besides the creators and Eden Riegel?
How many episodes before they make frankie the "not your average" disney princess?
>>150494240Underfoot you say...?
>>150494349They don't need to. Gwen is right for the "princess" coded character, and the role itself isn't a good one in-setting.
>>150494359Well yeah, at the current. Got the feeling that they're going to do some manner of hand-off, where gwen's gorilla strength isn't enough and frankie is more-or-less compelled to demonstrate the ideas of what D*sneyland is supposed to be. Her entire reasoning for wanting to be a wagie like andi is to give others the same feeling she had when meeting gwen, after all, she's still got that spark. Plus she's already got an entourage of animal companions, even if they're just schizo visions at the moment.
>>150493334
Anyone have the character turnarounds? I saw them posted somewhere earlier
>>150493334she could cosplay Frankie and it would work well
>>150494395
>>150494240ANON NO!
>>150494240noooo don't crush me with your perfect feet haha
>>150491502That's a Flip thing? My white Southern grandparents had them in their living room.
>>150494240You’re giving them what they want
>maiden>dudebroGetchu a woman that can do both.
>>150494222>>150493937So true Disney shill
a few people noticed the FASTBEETS link in pic related.did i miss something?because if i try to go to that link it leads to some domain acquisition website.or is FASTBEETS itself a reference to something?
>>150494349don't they mock that in the opening>This princess can save herself!
>>150494509I need the second forced to dress like the first.
>>150492953Dana is truly the greatest animator to surpass Genndy. Indie will slay.
>>150491876>>150491929>>150492904>>150492915Everyone always thought it was going to save animation. Buckle up boomers, Glitch will be the only studio from here on out. You'll love it.
>>150492207Yeah, you better not watch it, chud. You'll just get triggered.
>>150492226>>150492240>>150492408Genndy incels screeching is always a good thing.
>>150494641God I hope they make Gwen turbo derpy and autistic. If they don't it'll be Glitch's biggest fucked up.
>>150491985t. Jimmy Kimmel seething over Disney
>>150492207There is nothing about this show that would send conservative culture warriors into a frothing rage. The two main female protagonists are just roommates, one of the male characters is technically voiced by a tranny (MtF), but nobody seems to notice or care.
>>150494590Sure, but that doesn't meant they can't do something like "the real disney princess isn't the cool girlboss, but OUR brand of subversive Quirk Chungus who's still not the typical princess"
>>150494669>There is nothing about this show that would send conservative culture warriors into a frothing rage.The main characters are women, one of them is brown, and the only named white guy so far is a violent criminal. Really, just the showrunner being a woman is the only excuse they need.
>Dana was a disney writer who got her show shitcanned>now working as an indie animator>Andi was a D*sney techie who got canned>now working with the "lower" casteI'm going to assume that "crownie" is just dana trying to get ahead of the (justified) claims of her being a disney writer pulling a "how do you do, fellow indies"
>>150494669>one of the male characters is technically voiced by a tranny (MtF), but nobody seems to notice or care.yeah i wondered about that.
>>150494199im surpised this short had nsfw art
If KiwiFarms likes it you know its good. Dana can do no wrong and Disney shills lost thanks to ABC.
>>150494652What does any of this have to do with Genndy?
>>150494769He's an industry cuck.
Boy this guy is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for bait huh?
>>150494756Yeah I suppose. Despite the constant hateboner this site has for Dana there is no real dirt they can use against her.
>>150494824It's probably one of the Fixed fags.
>>150493145>Truly 'dey were...>...Da Knights of Guinevere
>>150494729So true Genndy.
>>150493210>Orville>OrwellMakes sense.
>>150494860Don't involve me in your imagined war, fag.
We haven't seen why Andi got fired yet, right? It's weird because I thought she just got the job from the scene where she had a fight with Reggie. She wouldn't be throwing a shitfit if they've interacted after she got the job before
>>150494875Leave indie writers alone.
>>150494831All she does is win.
>>150494756They literally doxxed Gooseworx but they still seem to be able to talk about TADC on its own merits. The site is full of hateful pricks but they put that aside if they come across an interesting cartoon.
>>150494587Did you type it in?
>>150494756Pics? Not that I don't believe you, I just want to be assured that they can respect an artistic genius when they see one.
>>150494935welp, i'm stupid, i typed it in wrong.guess i deserve that
>>150494953>artistic geniusAnd that's because I like TOH.
>>150494656From what we can tell, that is indeed the case, but she still manages to be graceful and regal. >>150494824>picWhy is she so perfect? >spoilerYep. Liking things is illegal after all.
>>150494930They hate TADC more in comparison to KOG. Understandable.
>>150494889I'm talking about a fired corpo writer, not one of the indies.
>>150494982It should be never be illegal to like indie shows. Hollywood productions are another thing.
>>150493256I'm going all in on Frankie next year for ms./co/
>>150495026But that's Ragatha and she can't enter next year.
>>150495004She's not corpo faggot.
>>150494953From the Glitch Productions thread, the first line of the few replies:>TL;DR, it's pretty good, like the setting but the characters could use some work.>I thought it was pretty solid. Pacing was a lot more tame compared to Gaslight District's pilot.>Knights of Guinevere was ok. Better than I was expecting. AMAAAAAZING special effects animations.>That was actually pretty good ngl, I like the art direction they were going, animation was too choppy for my liking...>Corporation, bad. [PLEASE CLAP] Okay but for real. It seems promising so far I admit. >Yeah, gotta say, looks good.>Just watched the pilot. I was skeptical going in since it's Dana Terrance's work but I ended up really enjoying it, actually.>Credit where credit is due: I enjoyed the pilot. >It was surprisingly decent.
If the disenchanted ex-employee is Terrace, who is the schizo faux-Disney adult?
>>150494769dude, don't take the bait. What the fuck is wrong with you? This tard is in every thread trying to start shit. Just ignore and move on. Notice that's what everyone else is doing.
>>150494962never give up, anon
>>150495094More than likely it's a GD fan deliberately taking the bait to reply to himself.
>>150495069Gwen, Frankie, and Andi are all parts of Dana. Gwen is the part of her that feels used up by the system, Andi is the part of her that is jaded and works in the industry, and Frankie is the part of her that still loves animation and wants to believe.
>>150495094I’m not, I stopped replying after one post
>>150494888Personally I think it's possible the company was planning to fire her anyway. >a weeks work of tests in one nightThat sounds like the kind of impossible task to get laid off due to "poor performance".
>broken crown>broken sword>broken shieldAh, gotta love some good old fashioned symbolism.
>>150495142Based as fuck.
>>150493354Hmmm. Would that be a feasable solution for cattle/chicken space issues? Interesting concept, at least.
>>150493479her hallucination of the tv commercial, which was probably a real one that she's seen a thousand times over, did give her the idea to take Gwen to that Halo machine. So even if Frankie has some mental condition, it's being used to move the plot.
>>150493487Damn, those are some big high heels.
>>150493370not verythe world of KoG looks like it would be a very difficult place to be healthy
I wonder if this will include potshots at Kim Possible and especially Phineas and Ferb.
>>150495223Does Dana Terrace have specific beef with those shows? I'm not clued into The Lore.
>>150495244no. tribefag is going to tribe
>>150495244PnF definitely, KP implied
>>150493292I like hairy women.
>>150495173I'm just curious how long she was one with how she acted like she just found out people hated crownies. That does sound like a targeted layoff task
>>150495041Yes...That's why I'm voting for Frankie.
>>150493852Agreed. I watched it in my brazilian portuguese dub and it sounded way better for the main characters.
>>150495026>>150495272The better Glitch show needs to win.
while i enjoyed the pilot, i'm really struggling to see how can the situation evolve.the title makes it seems like the MC are going to be a saint seiya situation where they kick the bad guy's butt in the name of the princess, but considering the fucked-up barely repaired guin fucked up a giant ace-in-my-sleeve robot.on the other hand, if they're going the cyberpunk route where they use guerrilla tactics and hacking to take down the evil corp, it kinda kills both the knight theme, plus it's hard to ignore if you have a robot that can fight an army by itself.you guys got any idea based on the promotional material and such?
>>150489610it's missing the volume, so it looks like it's lacking a bonebut, a lot of animation inbetweens and even whole scenes are sus even from professional disneykeks, i think it's very good for an indie. the design maybe needed another round of work so people who aren't dana can draw it, she is very very good at anatomy.
>>150495026>>150495272>>150495291It will fail to qualify like every other Glitch show not named TADC.
It's time to apologize, /co/
>>150495060She had a multi-season show on disney. That's about as corpo as you can get for a writer short of contributing to one of disney's flagship IPs. It's not like dana was just pumping out youtube shorts before striking it big with KoG.
>>150495323Sign it bitch>>150495316
>>150495325Why? I'm right.
How is Planet Park giga disney if they constantly reuse the same "character" for everything surely someone would have figured out they could ALWAYS reuse Guinevere
>>150495316No I don't think I will.
>>150495294Nah I hope we get to see an disgustingly innocent and autistic Gwen coping with her PTSD and learning about the downtrodden people living under the park with Frankie and Andi playing more the role of a teacher an moral guide as they both deal with their own baggage.
>>150495339The "classic roster" of disney princesses all have a very similar appearance. It could be interpreted that using Gwen for every role is a stab at the disney sameface.
>>150495356https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJrud9uW_wI
>>150495266> she acted like she just found out people hated crowniesI don't think it was just finding out. I think she was sick of it. Also, I feel like that scene was partially her yelling at dipshits for thinking that she personally ruined stuff like DuckTales. The line "you think a cog like me has power?" echoes what a lot of industry people complain about. A dipshit exec makes a dipshit decision and then the animators get blamed for it in places like /co/
>>150495330She's literally saving animation.
>>150495378The only animation she's saving is the fight she skipped.
>>150495356That’s definitely what they were going for, though ironically TOH suffers from a lot of same face syndrome as well
>>150495294> i'm really struggling to see how can the situation evolvesounds like a good reason to keep watching then, huh?
>>150495378i'm surprised more people are gooning to the fact it's 2d animated. i thought the 2d>3d crowd was really loud, did it die off?
>>150495398*aren't
>>150495377Same thing happened with John K. /co/ really made her a scapegoat for DuckTales which is bizarre in retrospect.
>>150495294Gwen is physically adept. The saving she needs is in her mind, or whatever the fuck is going on in there. Thus, the engineers with a childhood fascination for Guinevere will serve as her knights.
>>150495383can't give it all away in episode 1, anon. How many episodes did it take before Goku finally used that god damned spirit bomb. We went through like 7 episodes where he was just powering up and having an internal monologue about how he hopes he's strong enough.
>>150495425The manga was much shorter
>>150495407> Same thing happened with John KKeep baiting
>>150495385Nah, if you don't have autistic face blindness all the TOH characters are quite distinct despite the simple style of the show. Different noses, head shapes, eye shapes, lip shapes. I would still be able to tell all of them apart even if you shaved them all bald. The same cannot be said about modern Disney princesses.
>>150495407John K is a certified pedophile, and his kickstarter cartoon abomination can only be attributed to him.
>>150495434The manga didn't have to be animated
>>150495356>>150495385>>150495439Disney princesses were the cause of anime sameface. Dana needs to drag them for that.
>>150495439> if you don't have autistic face blindnessWhere do you think you are?
I'd hold hands with Sir Arthur. They have merch of the ladies but where is it for the big ol robot man. HUH. HUH?! Maybe eventually of Sir Mordred/Lancelot if that's the moon robots name. Which also implies potentially a entire group of the Knights of the Round Table and all the Arthurian stuff from the old tales.
>>150495454It really didn't
>>150495356Not just sameface, the fact that they're all essentially the same character as well, just in different contextsIf you randomly swapped all the princesses at birth, very little would change in their movie plots
>>150495473So is the Sir Gawain bot gonna to have implied to have tried to rape Gwen?
>>150495484Disney princesses really are a blight.
>>150495484> If you randomly swapped all the princesses at birth, very little would change in their movie plotsMost of them would drown if they were swapped into being Ariel.
This looks more interesting than Owl House but some moments are "edgy aesthetic girls find cool"
>>150495439This is really reaching, and by that same logic I could conclude that most Disney princesses don’t have same face either since they too sport minor differences in their facial features. They all fundamentally look the same, the features are just rearranged slightly.
>>150495456The most "disneyish" anime studio, aka ghibili, has a same-face problem but still managed to diversify the personalities of some of the heroines way more than disney.
>>150495509The edgy camp still is fine. The unnatural forced dialogues are the shows biggest problem. >you fight like an old man, old man>uhg that was lame>no no that was a great insult, sista>winky faceCringe.
>>150492862It is a little ironic, but on the other hand, it feels slightly more honest to have a show that’s funded by its own merch and direct fan support instead of the alternative, which is to have them bend over backward to serve corporate sponsorships.That’s a big part of how and why indie shows like KOG even exist. To create a more direct creator to audience pipeline. Created by artists who got sick of or don’t want to make a vehicle for commercials selling diapers and lunchables and other company’s toys, and then get thrown out when it turns out their art appeals to a demographic that the sponsors didn’t want.
>>150495542Not really.
>>150495494Maybe? Depends on how far Dana goes. I'm more excited about the Green Knight in regards to Sir Gawain while The Lady of the Lake could also probably relate to Mermaid Gwen too. The Original Francesca as well in regards to King Arthur heavily romanticized the tales + the knights so the original her could be looked out for any plot developments if they go forward with the show. The Tales of Camelot are some of my favorites and I adore fantasy so I hope Dana does it well.If it follows along with the Arthurian tales then we'd be seeing the fall of Camelot in the show which Gwen is, of course, the queen of. There's a lot of stuff Dana could go off of from the old Arthurian works.
>>150495425Why are you comparing an indie "adult" cartoon with an anime made for kids where toei thought the kids will not notice if they extended simple events for a long ass time?
>>150492862I think those three characters are actually Francesca’s OCs. The park mascots are called starpups and seem to be made in a different artstyle.
>>150495574Dana is too good for that shit.
>DUDE FRANKIE IS A MTF TRANS!>completely ignores the flashback that shows her as a little girl when she was like 9Why are some people like this
>>150495571Yes really, Kiki, San and Aeko don't feel as similar in their character and attitude(and that's not counting all the movies with male leads).
>>150495582You're nitpicking differences in types of shows and completely missing the point. Gwen's capability for violence is clearly going to be a big moment. If they just dropped that out of nowhere, it wouldn't have the same impact. For now, we know that she probably has a great power, but it's better to build anticipation. When we final get the action sequence, it will pay off better.
>>150495554This is why the golden age of Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network was bad in hindsight. Shows like Powerpuff Girls were no better than He-Man. KoG was more honest by comparison.
>>150495617Miyazaki is a one trick pony when it comes to his protagonists. Isao was the better man.
>>150495610Same reason anons think that literally everything is "clear evidence" of a fetish. People see what they want to see.
>>150495610>"You're gender confirming or trans, there are no other gender identities or expressions"a deplorable mindset
>>150495637I said Ghibli not Miyazaki, that's why you should learn to read.
>>150495610Trans people deserve to be seen.
>>150495494only olivia is allowed to rape gwen
>>150495642Obviously anon was being a chud about it. That being said, it would be neat to have a trans protagonist in a mainstream western cartoon.
>>150495644I don't watch dubs, I read more than most people on this board.
>>150495624And you are nitpicking something that was not intentional. If DBZ had been released in 1996 it wouldn't have suffered from that. It was literal a production problem, comparing your show with that is basically making fun of it. >For now, we know that she probably has a great power, but it's better to build anticipation.Except it was a problem in dbz and not meant to build anticipation.
this just feels like one of those “not anime” shows adult swim/toonami would air in like 2004 that I angrily sat through so I can finally watch full metal alchemist or something
>>150495660I'm pretty sure there was a show about a park or something a year or two ago with an FtM trans protagonist. They had short pink or blue hair. I can't remember the name of it, but I think it was on Netflix.
>>150495660I don't know how to say this but... you will never ever be a woman, I am sorry.
>>150495588Inspirations can still be looked at for insight, regardless! Francesca for example fits her original counterpart by heavily romanticizing the park and Guinevere. Though I'm sure Dana isn't going to follow it beat by beat for the Arthurian tales. I'm pretty sure there's probably still going to be a fall of Camelot in some manner though if they end up putting an end to the core of the Gwen bots to rescue her with how vital she feels to the park itself.
>>150495667Good. Keep it up.
>>150495679DeadEndia?
>>150495679>>150495660>>150495652Dead End: Paranormal Park
>>150495542i love ghibli but that's objectively wrong. anime is sameface as hell.>>150495660the trouble is, in this dumbass modern landscape a trans character would need a trans voice actor. most trans people can't voice act for shit. the raine character in the owl house was ruined entirely by the diversity hire's terrible voice acting.
>>150495657>Oliva angrily grinding against her smiling Guin bot
>>150495660I wasn’t being a “chud” I was calling out retarded discourse that I’ve seen online. Representation is fine but when you have to bend over backwards to make it work or outright ignore things that are happening on screen it’s just retarded
>>150491230>I didn't watch it but I need to participate!
>>150491935This
>>150495710>i love ghibli but that's objectively wrong. anime is sameface as hell.Are you blind or retarded? Reread my post again and use your brain before you reply and yes there are anime with sameish faces but there are a lot of them that look interesting as well (not that it matters since I agreed that ghibili has a same face problem you blind fuck).
>>150492126>Big meaty nipple Mommy
>>150495610Who is saying this?
>>150492066Aren't you supposed to be saving mons 4 colleg
>>150495660Mate, I don't want to give credence to the chuds and self-insert fags but a trans MCs just wouldn't be relatable enough for 99% of your target audience. You would need an insane amount of skill and luck to make it popular.
>>150495610>mtfare people actually saying this? Because, if anything, the assumtion should be ftm specifically because she's called "Frank" now and we saw her as a kid.
>>150495743it was a top comment on the youtube comments in the first hours it came out, thankfully has been buried now
>>150495705>>150495700>show about trannies is called dead endWhy did they mean by this?
>>150495753An FTM protagonist would be interesting to see. As people mentioned the last show we got that had that was Dead End so more visibility would be nice.
>>150495767take it to /pol/
>>150493334Lol I think they look exactly alike.
>>150495774It's a joke bro, calm down.
>>150495783I just said take it to /pol/ bro, calm down.
>>150492324not gay by the way.
>>150495773No that's dumb as the former would be, like >>150495751 is saying. And, personally, I find it laughably retarded that the moment a female character shows any sort of nonstandard behavior they're labeled as "Trans-whatever". Like the notion of a tomboy never existed. Especially since, I swear, those same people were insisting that "gender expression isn't binary" or whatever the slogan was in the mid 2010s.
>>150495789Chuds really seethe when their "jokes" don't land.
>>150493400I forget his super villain backstory,but long story short 20 years ago he lived in California worked at I Think Cartoon Network, and got fired for saying Racist shit to a woman or defending John K I forget,then since then He's just become a typical Maga Culture War Shitposter who only attacks animation topics.
>>150495782I legitimately thought this was prozd in drag.
>>150495796non-binary is another option for her even if she uses feminine pronouns.
>>150493400>>150495802luke weber has mental illnesshe did draw this though which is the funniest thing he ever did
>>150495789And why would /pol/ be interested in a joke about a cartoon?
>>150495832weaponized stupidity is so fucking tiresome.
>>150495815It's the same issue and same problem, the notion that a gender is tied to performance and the moment it changes you no longer qualify for that gender. It's the same logic as >"what, boy? You like to cook?! That's women work, so you must be one of them queers." but turned into a positive.>"What? You're a boy who likes to cook! Well aren't you an egg that needs to be cracked."It's all psychotic, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
Stop with the /pol/ shit.
>>150495799I thought anon’s joke was funny
>>150495848Are you ok bro? Now don't hang up on me.
>>150495854People want to be edgy to fight the /co/mblr stigma when /co/ was never about that.
>>150495865Then was was /co/ about?
>>150495877Love. Being progressive. Being anti loli.
>>150494177BIGMEATYNIPPLOS
>>150495849non-binary is not the same as trans.
>>150495114Let it go anon
Can we talk about the show instead
TADC and Gaslight District are on watch. MD is too cooked to notice.
>>150495824He's mega cringe but drawing yourself with your waifu is still based.
>>150491876Unironically yes. I don't give a fuck about Hazbins Shartell, this is the only western 2d animation that actually looks good and the story isn't a complete fucking bore.
>>150495316I didn't slander her in the first place because I didn't watch Owl House. This is entertaining so far thougheverbeit
>>150495425Wouldn't know because I'm not Mexican, anon
>>150495904Huh, haven't seen a lot of rockets for Andi
>>150495916>this is the only western 2d animation that actually looks good and the story isn't a complete fucking bore.2000s bros...
>>150495865>when /co/ was never about that./co/ was always about that, hence why it got the moniker.
>>150495904Still wanna know what the scary looking collar or belt is for.
>>150495885>Being progressiveNot really, this has always been kind of a nostalgia board that preferred old media and suffered through a lot of negative shifts on both the comics and cartoons side. What /co/ actually used to be was an OC board. >Being anti loli.Thousands of toph and gwen threads disagree.
>>150495916>Hazbin out of fucking nowhere.
>>150495936Probably for forced correction
>>150495890Fair, but same nature of "if you aren't stereotypically masculine/feminine, you default to a mysterious third thing"
>>150495773>Cartoons must represent me! I am the main character!
>>150495932They’re probably gonna spell it out more clearly later, but I think it’s apparent that Andi’s life’s dream is to buy a rocket ticket to move off of Park Planet and start a better life. That’s why she’s so desperate for money.
>>150495660>>150495705Issue with the current batch of trans characters is that they come off as whiney and obnoxious. The conflict is always "Why aren't other ppl using my pronouns reeeee" and the 'antagonists' never act outright malicious towards the trans characters. Even Japs, who tend to write margilnalized characters really well (Koe no Katachi), can't do that shit. It's better to write them like normal people who have universal struggles anyone can have and make the trans shit a side characteristic. The only trans character that's tolerable so far is Zooble from TADC so maybe its a pooner problem.
>>150495914He looks nothing like this FYIt. the idiot who spread this rumor in the first place
What if Glitch outsorced it's animation to China, Brazil, Argentina, Philippines or South Korea for half the price? They could make a lot more shows like that...Aren't all Dana's friends from LA or something? Those guys must cost a lot to hire.
>>150495936Isn't that the robot MRI thing they used to fix her up?
>>150495972That may also be because Zooble is more allegorical for trans struggles and the actual gender is more literally unknown, keeping it bogged down from the usual baggage.
>>150495177>broken crownGwen is a failed "royal" reduced to a petulant crone's plaything.>broken swordAndi is a picture of shattered success, for what little of it she scraped as a lower rung 9-5er.>broken shieldFrankie couldn't protect Gwen from Sparky or the knight. She's a styrofoam wall, easy to knock down.
>>150495972Isn't "-san" an honorific used for both genders?
>>150496017Yes.
>>150496028Then holy shit that page is really fucking stupid.
>>150495987Oh that could make sense. I think they called it a repair halo. Most of the other shots of it aren’t from that angle and it’s usually pictured with that bench thing, so it’s harder to recognize when you tip it over and make it look like a collar.
>>150495972Do people even care about trannies? They make a pretty small percentage of the population.
>>150495610Watching Reacts for boredom, increasingly more and more people acting like GoK is a show for trans-gay-lesbians and believing that vast amounts of chuds are trying to get GoK cancelled.
>>150495986>What if Glitch contributed to part of the reason western animation is so bad nowadays
>>150495972>It's better to write them like normal people who have universal struggles anyone can have and make the trans shit a side characteristicI agree, but in order to be "normal people" they also need to be flawed. I think a lot of people are hesitant to write a trans character who is jealous or prideful or greedy or arrogant or any other things that any other character could struggle with because at the end of the day, they're still "representation". I think people are worried that writing a flawed character that struggles with anything other than perception of their gender will reflect badly on the community overall. Gender perception is an easy topic because it "teaches a lesson" that is a net positive for the trans community, but it's also boring as fuck and results in boring-ass characters who are whiney and obnoxious.
>>150496036“kun” is generally masculine, but it also denotes a greater degree of informality and kinda infantilism, like “chan.” Whereas “san” is a more respectful default. “Kun” often is applied to young boys but “san” is a safe honorific for almost anyone including adult peers. The character (I assume he’s a bully) is saying “No no. Don’t call this kid ‘Peter’ his name is ‘Lil Petey.’ Call him Petey.” It does still matter, it’s just not that much of a gender thing (though again, “kun” is boyish) that’s happening as much as it’s a power move.
>>150496075I'm not talking about lowering production quality. With the right contacts they could open new divisions abroad with a really good crew.They probably spend 300k per episode.With 150k it's equal to around 550 minimum wages in let's say, Argentina. For ONE episode.
>>150495972Oh Zooble you mean the one with the abrasive personality who whines about everything and doesn’t play well with others?
>>150495389i mean, i'll take a peek, but it would be nice to know if i'm looking at an emotional sob story, a straightforward action thing, or somewhere in between
>another western “totally not anime” showI sleep. I hated teen titans back then and I hate this shit now
>>150496198Nobody knows, anon. We'll find out by watching. That's how shows work. You can probably glean a bit from context clues. For example, I think the chances of this being a comedy are pretty slim.
>>150496207> /co/: The west needs to take more stylistic influence from anime > also /co/: Not like that!
>>150496263/co/ has always hated the west superficially ripping off anime.
>>150494597Frankie’s areolas are the perfect size to make out with
>>150496263>/co/ is a singular person fuck off retard
>>150496263Hello, yes, it is I, the one /co/. I am coming to your home to assimilate you into the /co/llective. Do not resist. Prepare your anus.
Did I miss the tentacle fucking fan art from anon?
i'm racist can i still enjoy this show?
>>150496470One character and a few background characters are ambiguously brown, and there is one other character people are claiming is ambiguously asian just because of VA drama. The setting isn’t Earth so a lot of the regular politics behind who is or isn’t brown might just not exist here. The only culture we’ve seen is just a vaguely american industrialist dystopian one. The most exotic non eurocentric thing so far was a mention of “dumplings.” It seems like a racially integrated society where there’s a big class gap that is probably not related to race. You could probably get by pretending the brown chick is just really tan and otherwise ignore the concept of race entirely.
>>150496086Yes most trans characters end up being on the same level as a toddler show teaching little Jimmy that being mean is bad.I think its the result of untalented hacks usurping the positions of power who demand talented people, who know wtf they're doing, to make retarded decisions. The result is having unlikable characters who bitch about 1st world problems.>>150496196Zooble is trapped in an inescapable hellscape anon, bitching and moaning is the minimum compared to going insane to the point of incomprehension.
>>150491521>It seems pretty clear to me that Frank is a tranny.No, it isn't. Look quite female to me.
>>150496191If they did it ethically and not to just rely on cheap labor like you implied.
>>150495972>Issue with the current batch of trans characters is that they come off as whiney and obnoxious.You are making it a way bigger deal than it actually is. It's no different than when a woman correct you and tell you to call her Miss instead of Mrs.There is no "Reeeee" involved. Not even in the image you posted.
>>150493334Look at that F.A.G. (Fat Asian Girl)
>>150491521>the only one that used an a female name was GuinTo me, this is the exact proof that Frankie was born with a vagina. The Guinevere robot scanned her and looked up her legal name she had in a database as a child, most likely that is the name on her birth certificate. The guys at the docks are way more likely to be calling her by a nickname. Also she visibly has big honkin tiddies and birthing hips. I don’t think she’s the type to have afforded surgery to get that body.
>>150496713NTA, but I think you misread the problem. Nobody is talking about anyone "Reeeee"ing, but using your example, if the female main character does nothing. but spend an entire comic or series correcting people and telling them to call her Miss instead of Mrs., it's not going to make for a very compelling story. The character needs to have more to give a shit about, needs to struggle with more, needs to have an arc other than someday people learning to call her Miss.
>>150496781Maybe the series will have them explore alternate gender identities despite being AFAB.
>>150496781People are making way too much over Sparky calling Frankie "Franklin". For all we know, it's just a nickname. I had a coworker named Ben that I'd sometimes refer to as "Benjamina". There's no implication or coded message. It's just fucking around.
>>150496805that sounds incredibly retarded. This isn't Steven Universe.
>>150496823Dana and Rebecca are friends and on the same wavelength.
>>150492926I love you, anon.
>>150496808It could also be foreshadowing on a gender topic later. You never know.
For fuck sake.>Ohh a new thing>Watch the first episode>That was great!>Let's see...ohhh a Guinevere thread!>Look inside>Frankie is transFUCKING HANG YOURSELVES.
>>150496808I’m convinced her full name is just Francesca Franklin and he is simply calling her by her last name.
>>150493181I'd really rather take the place of said child.
>>150496880Is anyone actually arguing that she is? I saw mostly complaints about people perceiving her as such.
>>150496880>>>/pol/And stay there.
>>150496914I like this explanation more than a random nickname so it’s what I’m going with too.
>>150496924We're past the bump limit, you don't have to pretend to be retarded anymore.
>>150492126>>150495739This artist draws some really nice tits.He also drew Gwen, btw.
>>150496914>>150496933I prefer to see it as foreshadowing Frankie transitioning and adopting a new name. Sparky's VA being trans adds to this.
>>150496934We're on an anonymous image board, you don't have to pretend to be cool.
>>150496950I’d be fine with that. It would inspire FrankiexFrankie het porn.
>>150496970Oh, no worries, I'm just naturally cool.Maybe you're just naturally retarded, then. Sorry for assuming otherwise.
>>150496924Read >>150495680
>>150497004Read>>150496924
>>150496998How would Frankie fuck themself
>>150496950What’s the transition? Female to male? I don’t think there’s anything coming from her that indicates she’s interested in that. Even her imaginary friends in her head call her a girl. And I stand by my belief that she’s a girl with a feminine legal name in the flashback to her childhood, meaning she was always afab.Sparky seems to be masculinizing her for some reason, but I think that’s just a him thing. He seems to prefer men and possibly likes working with men over women so maybe he wants to think of his one female protege as a boy.
>>150497020herself*
>>150497028I respect people transitioning.
>>150497009Why did you cut your dick? What pushed you to that extreme?
>>150497020Artist’s choice
>>150497023It could also be a form of foreshadowing, which reflects on how the LGBT community reckons with Disney as their influence.
Can we just go back to ironically lesbian shipping Frankie with Gwen even though a week ago we didn’t want this show to have lesbians? That was funnier than the new thing of forcing in non existent trans shit even though we didn’t want the show to have trannys
>>150497058That would require some time travel and would spoil Frankie's transition.
>>150496880>HANG YOURSELVES.Brooooo be a little more sensitive. Our trans sisters don't like reading stuff like that.
>>150497049You shouldn't
>>150497071Foreshadowing what exacty?
>>150497090Well it wouldn't be a lesbian relationship if Frankie comes out as a trans man.
>>150497113She wont tho
>>150497092If you need cartoon porn to be canon you are missing out on the good shit my anon
>>150497103>>150497125We can't be certain. Everything reads like a trans man forced to like feminine things while presenting as female.
>>150497134I'm just pondering the logistics of Frankie fucking themself after coming out as trans is all.
>>150497023>the character played by a trans person is assigning a gender to another character that does not identify as that genderNow THAT’s some irony I can get behind.
>>150497163You are too young for this website. Be safe.
>>150497144Actually nothing reads that way at all. Multiple things, in fact, read the exact opposite way.
>>150497180I'm nearly 40 anon. Why can't I have conversation?
>>150497194You're nearly 40 and never seen Wishmaster 2
>>150497176>>150497188It definitely reads like foreshadowing.
>>150497194Why would a 40 years old man care so much about trannies?
>>150497023Yeah people are way overthinking the nickname. Nothing suggests it’s that deep.
>>150497163My vision is:>Franky is one sex- whichever one you think is hotter>they have a schizophrenic imaginary friend hallucination of themself that is the opposite sex>they penis in vagina fuck each other
>>150495986Glitch is based in Australia and if they outsource too much it will hurt their government grants. Most of their core team is in Australia. If the pilot does well they will probably offer people visa’s to move over. It’s better to try and get free money from the government than be super cheap.
>>150497215Why wouldn't a decent human being care about trans people?
How many eggs will this series crack?
Frankie pussy.
>>150497211The only thing this interpretation is foreshadowing is your own transition.
>>150497233There a proper response. I don't see why people were being bullish.
>>150497233Hot and they share Gwen.
>Make two points>the more interesting one gets zero engagement>the other derails half the threadI hate all of you.
Destroy homos and trannies in all series*wishes on a star*
>>150497244If not a single egg is cracked, this series has failed.
>>150497233Oh! OR, you could make this scene more tangible by having Frankie build herself a selfcest fuckbot to make the dream a reality.
>>150497323Destroy chuds and incels in all discourse*wishes on a star*
>>150497269It's stinky
>>150497344Nice
>>150497309What was the other point again?
Is there a way this premise could have been done in a way that was a little less on the nose?
>>150497269A masculine pussy. Not all vaginas are female.
The /co/umbler truth strikes again. I thought other boards were bad. This takes the cake. I wanted to discuss cool sci fi concepts about the world, the theme park, if the current Princess Guinevere models are different in personality or simply a hive mind that runs every mind simultaneously. Will Punished Gwen need to fight the other Guinevere models or will she unleash trauma in them to convert them to her side?
>>150497365Read the spoiler >>150491521
>>150497367It would be less fun that way.
>>150497388>spoiler Then why are all the other Princess Guinevere models not suicidal?
>>150496950How does Sparky’s voice actor being trans have anything to do with Frankie’s character arc?
>>150497309Next time don't bring up troons if you want to be taken seriously.
>>150497393People really do seem to hate fun.
>>150497342They're already destroying themselves with their own stupidity
>>150497400Maybe they are. We haven’t seen much so far.
>>150497239Glitch hasn’t gotten government grants since Murder Drones started. Why do anons keep circulating this misinfo?
>>150497417Forgot to wish upon a star for your retarded delusion to come true.
>>150497367Make the evil corporation anything other than a theme park, or Guinevere the mascot of anything other than an entertainment company.
>>150497376Will Frankie complete their transition?
>>150497400They're could be using a unique AI made because the prototype failed or they've got hardware/software limiters that suppress their individuality/emotions.
>>150497342>N-no u
>>150497427>be random Park Crownie that has to work near Princess Guinevere during the final shift of the day>she keeps giving me weird looks>eventually corners me in the secret staff tunnel>she leans in close, standing above me slightly >starts fucking trauma dumping >her voice moves so fast it's like she's trying to subliminally message her trauma directly into my brain>have nightmares that night knowing there's nothing I can do about itFuck...
>>150497468After a week of this you request a transfer to another attraction, but the other Guinevere there remembers you and keeps going
I wonder what Park Planet patrons are even like.It could be a funny social commentary if, over the course of Olivia’s life, the class divide has become so extreme that nobody can even afford to go to the park anymore, and it’s just a ghost town full of animatronics going through the motions.
>>150496785>but using your example, if the female main character does nothing. but spend an entire comic or series correcting people and telling them to call her Miss instead of Mrs.I don't think there are that many stories where that happens to the point it become notable.
>>150496880>>That was great!lol
>>150497509>every damn attraction another Guinevere hunts me down to trap me in their loop of trauma and coping mechanisms>I was pissed at first, especially because I can't say much without making it worse>I'm actually scared now because simply touching my arms or shoulders seems to be more and more necessary to prevent each one from totally breaking down mentally>I hate how satisfied and slightly less unstable each one looks after talking at me>I hope they don't crush me to death one day
>>150497468>Hey, gwen, I am afraid I can't understand>Please repeat the part about a little girl putting her hand inside of you>Please speak slowly
>>150497367>>150497450Even if you change the company I think it would eventually lead back to being a Disney parody, because marketing and commercialization are a big part of any successful company. Like I bet Shell or Lockheed & Martin* WISH they could get away with opening a theme park that generates billions of income for them. But if Park Planet were instead the company that produces and sells dubious mystery meat and Gwen were an alien cow-girl you'd no longer have that angle that speaks to everyone who grew up loving Disney and have grown jaded towards it. *desu I wouldn't be surprised if they had money in theme parks somewhere but you know what I mean.
>>150496880As usual, I am not seeing anybody saying she's trans. Just a lot of people moaning about it.
>>150497651Saw a post on tumblr about it but just one.
>>150493334Isn't that Orville's VA?
>>150497651Yeah it literally started with a guy seething about her being trans which was just an assumption on his part in the first place
>>150497468Damn that reminds me, did that one writannon post more of his work?https://rentry.co/robosexxowippo
>>150497585The Disney bad would be obvious because it’s the point, and it would be less on the nose to pick a less literal allusion which is what they asked. I don’t personally think it would add anything. You set it at Kellogg and make Gwen into Tony the Tiger, then Frankie works in a wheat field or manufacturing cereal box toys, the company controls the planet food supply to oppress wagies, the crops are contaminated by blue cancer pesticide shit, Andi’s job is food scientist and the marshmallows are made of people, the childhood nostalgia are the cereal toys, commercials and storybooks. You get a version that’s both obviously alluding to Disney and less on the nose. Or you make it a city-state patrolled by local mascots who surveil citizens, and the mythology centers around local history and tourism with a Disney or Ford esque figure which would still read as Epcot but center around elements unique to a climate or culture instead of a theme park. The story they went with doesn’t seem to need that, it might as well be on the nose.
>>150497781>You set it at Kellogg and make Gwen into Tony the Tiger, then Frankie works in a wheat field or manufacturing cereal box toys, the company controls the planet food supply to oppress wagies, the crops are contaminated by blue cancer pesticide shit, Andi’s job is food scientist and the marshmallows are made of people, the childhood nostalgia are the cereal toys, commercials and storybooks.Just speaking for myself but I have a much bigger nostalgic attachment to the Disney brand than I do any of my childhood favorite cereals. If you have Frankie simping for Tony the Tiger and change her motivation to "I want to make cereal kids will like", she gets considerably more goofy and more difficult to take seriously.
>>150497818You would still relate it to Disney because the way she’s attached is still obviously more like Disney than Kellogg IRL. The Disney attachment is goofy to a lot of people as it is, and animation is a medium of imagination so doing something that would be weird in real life can be executed in a way that’s effective and relatable.
>>150497842>You would still relate it to DisneySo what's wrong with just making it Disney?
>>150497864Where have I said there’s sometbing wrong with it? >>150497367 asked>Is there a way this premise could have been done in a way that was a little less on the nose?And I answered yes, it could, with hypotheticals. I even said three times that the Disney version was the better choice for this project. Who cares.
>>150497896Lol fair enough
>>150497719>teenager in denial about finding Guinevere soothing and inspirational Too on the nose characterization. A disgruntled fella trying to get that accidentally becomes the shoulder to cry on for every Princess Guinevere is darkly funny. Especially if the corpo supervisor starts paying him hush money while the Guinevere models drive him insane.
>>150497953>trying get by
I think we should stop fighting with each other and talk about frankie's fat tits
>>150498039Hot.
>>150498039Toweling her sweat
