>>150495121
Unfortunately all the whackos in charge like James Gunn hate him. And they even managed to turn millennials, zoomers and gen alphas against him. All for a cheap gag.

>>150495121
What would be the ideal way to handle Scrappy in your opinion, OP?

Why?

>>150495462
One where everyone loves him more than anything else in the world.

>>150495147
>turn
Gen X here
No one liked him

>>150495121
I've felt this way for the last 15 years. Same with fairy tale princess fare. Shrek and the Scooby Doo duology already subverted the expectation, the real subversion of expectations now would be returning to form. If they want the HB properties to succeed they need to stop treating them like jokes. I'm tired of the Harvey Birdman gimmick.

>>150495462
Not OP but I would just embelish on what was there originally. Scrappy works because he's juxtaposed against the cowardice of Scooby and Shaggy. If they ever make another attempt at a Scooby feature film, introducing Scrappy could be a great angle for the kids. Have Scrappy be the hero and save the day after learning from his meddling elders.

>>150495121
Just acknowledge he’s an annoying dachshund who calls Scooby uncle and he suddenly becomes tolerable. Because people love dachshunds and anyone who’s ever owned one is used to pulling theirs away from something that’s trying to kill them. The real reason he’s intolerable is because they dropped the rest of the gang for him. When he’s just another weird talking dog following them around he’s …not great but also not terrible.

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>>150495147
>>150495696
as a zoomer, I've always found that hating Scrappy was some big gen-X autism. like most of my friends liked the guy but now we're just told to hate him and we can't do anything about it so it's whatever

>>150495462
Not OP, but just make him act like red shirt Shaggy era Scrappy in some random special. He already changed as a character from his early appearances, it's like everyone memory-holed it. The best chance would've been in that shit 13th Ghost movie though, so I don't see it happening anytime soon.

I've never understood the hate for this character.

>>150495147
People like now that he killed Velma

Good or bad media of the past, the one thing I miss is how things were presented with complete earnestness. Characters could be corny, with zero irony, and the audience was willing to like them as long as they were basically good hearted people.

>>150496492
I just know for a fact that this kid was watching something like 13 Ghosts or Ghoul School before that bitch changed the channel

>>150496492
>as a zoomer
opinion disregarded

This is the context and history of the character from the guy tasked with creating him:
https://www.newsfromme.com/articles-such/scrappy-days
tl;dr: Joe Barbera had a huge boner for Warner Brothers, wanted his own Henery Hawk character, instructed Evanier to create a legally distinct version, the suits interfered over and over, and the end result was what we got

>>150496802
If you actually look into it the show was doing badly and was gonna be cancelled.

So they invented Scrappy to mix things up and get viewers, It worked but they dropped Fred and Velma since their characters weren't needed. But sadly they decided to drop the amount of money going into the show and it got real cheap and the quality tanked.

Kids blamed Scrappy for the lose of Fred and Velma and that quality drop and then grew up hating him.

>>150495462
Give him a less annoying voice and make him more endearing. Scrappy acts like nothing really scares him when it should be that he's just as scared as Scooby but he carries it differently.

>>150496962
I've watched all the Scooby reruns so I'm very familiar with him, but that was an interesting read on getting that first Scrappy season made. I still think the hate is some big and stale gen-X autism though, even Evanier in that article is confused by the Scrappy haters
>People ask me if I knew at the time I was contributing to the creation of a such a hated thing as Scrappy Doo. No, I didn't and no, I still don't. I am aware that there are some folks out there who, given the choice of seeing the execution of Osama bin Laden or Scrappy Doo, would opt for Scrappy and wonder why you even had to ask.
>Such people are, I believe, a fairly recent faction, and I don't think they're as widespread as their noise level would indicate. I recall Scrappy being wildly popular the first few years he was on the scene. He certainly bolstered Scooby's ratings and kept the series on a good 2-3 years longer than it would have lasted without him.
>I never quite understood the sentiment being voiced so long after Scrappy had done this alleged damage, and coming — as it often seemed — from people who weren't that wild about the show before Scooby's little nephew joined the team. Others seem to view the pre-Scrappy series as animation that compared favorably with Fantasia…but suddenly when this one character was added, it abruptly turned into a Saturday morning cartoon show.
>I don't know why some people hate him so. I don't see that the show was any better the season before…and as I've explained here, his presence got the network to order another season. My read is that the folks who don't like Scrappy are few in number but loud in voice.

>>150495121
Would've been better as a female with the same attitude.

>runs offscreen to attack the bad guy, massive impact sound, then is either rocketed back onscreen to pancake on the wall between Shaggy and Scooby, or slides unconscious across the floor to rest at their feet.

"Did I get 'em?" *faints*

And she never learns, like a real dog, so this happens a lot.

>>150496962
though that part were he stood up to the ABC censors who thought Scrappy was "too independent" was funny and Barbera sounds like a chad, even though someone at HB decided to back down in the end
>Mr. Barbera, who'd been largely silent throughout the mud-wrestling, leaned forward in his chair and said, "That's because Mark didn't grow up on shows that you people f*cked up." I think he even pronounced the asterisk.

Scrappy's an easy target because you can't say much about Flim Flam without being accused of racism, even if Flim Flam was a lot more annoying.

>>150497868
>Scrappy acts like nothing really scares him when it should be that he's just as scared as Scooby but he carries it differently.
Didn't they do that with the later seasons? He first was a brat who thought he can take on the world, but then he grew up and realized "Oh shit, this is actually dangerous. Wait for me Uncle Scooby!"

>>150495685
True to life

I want a Scrappy that can and does misconstrue things and wreck the fuck out of innocent guys, and bad guys in masks when they do the stupid thing of not paying attention and mocking him...but he gets bodied when they're actually monsters.

>>150495147
>Unfortunately all the whackos in charge like James Gunn hate him.
So James Gunn is based. Awesome, I hated Scrappy Doo to. I was his target demographic.

>>150498052
>even if Flim Flam was a lot more annoying
Flim Flam was created to tak eheat off Scrappy Doo. They even toned down Scrappy's annoyance if you pay attention.

But Scrappy is inherently subversive his gimmick is that he's an idiot who picks fights he can't win and disrupts the gang's plan to catch the villain. There's no way to showcase that in a positive light, the most value Scrappy adds in any given episode is that after his retard fueled aggression causes a big mess, sometimes, and I stress "sometimes" they also happen to find a clue. On occasion. Not usually though, usually he just makes the episode longer

>>150495121
Bump