In Aztec Batman, an aztec elite objects to the killing of women and children for religious reasons
>>150501760he didn't have the heart
>>150501760Hopefully the other Aztecs sacrifice this heretic
>>150501760Of course slaughtering men is fine with danger-haired writers though
>>150501760To defend the lazy writers, Aztecs did not sacrifice EVERYONE, mostly captured prisoners of war, criminals, and a few brave volunteers.
>>150502282Some of which were women and children.
>>150502317Yes. The poor unfortunate captured children, and the brave children of the nation, who definitely agreed to it.
>>150501760Writing like this is why it was good animators lost their jobs
>>150502323>Based kid smugly walking to his majestic death
>>150501760To make this all the worse they show the literal alter with bloody steps and the red paint (blood)As well as human skulls on pillars.Fucking modern writers are a plague.
>>150502328A lot of people dont know this but the in between animators actually have total control over the writing of projects. You wouldn't think but theyre tbe most powerful person in the studio.
OP posting shit from redditAgain
>>150501760Around the time Cortez arrived, Aztec were ruled by a religious extremist. Many in Aztec society rejected the claims or were indifferent to the slaughter. Not too different from any human society until whites invented electricity and got a leg up
>>150501760I mean, he's not wrong
>>150502323Flower wars were arranged wars where both parties agreed to battles so they could farm sacrifice victims and slaves from eachother.
>>150502412>960+ commentsIt's no surprise so many threads here are just taken from other places.
>>150501760This is what happens when you have a major element of the historian part of academia going to maximum effort to write off everything bad the Spanish/Europeans ever had to say about the locals as propaganda.Because doing messed up shit was obviously an extremely rare trait of humans throughout history.
>Cortez is Two FaceWhich Batman villain should Juan Garrido be?
>>150502052I got what you did. And I laughed and cummed.
>another anti-Catholic movie from HollywoodUtterly unsurprising.
>>150502508Maybe under Trump they'll more more pro-child molestation movies about the Catholic church
>>150502441Who knew that Kino's Journey's episode dealing with 2 tribes hunting the 3rd one for fun was not that far from reality.
>>150502323The children in particular were tortured before being sacrificed because they believed that the rain god would only accept crying kids
>>150502282>, mostly captured prisoners of war, criminals, and a few brave volunteers.that's nor really true they would do mass sacrifices and torture of children to bring the rain
>>150502521Either a Jew or a Prot, your opinion about God's Own Church is irrelevant.
>>150502521Sneed, tranny
>>150502583stop praying to mary lmao
>>150502563Yes, I was trying to get across they could not afford to kill more than a minority of the population. You would fucking genocide yourself in a few generations.
>>150501760Of all the indigenous people that were fucked up by European colonization, the Aztec's fucking deserved it the most.
>>150501760>you pagans killing innocent people in the name of your god is bad and you must suffer for it>we christians killing innocent people in the name of our god is good and justified because... because it just is, okay?Do christcucks really defend this logic? Why not accept reality and simply admit both sides are wrong and stop believing in bullshit?
>>150502508catholic priests were actually among the only people to object to the conquistador's treatment of the locals back then
>>150501760this is not about making aztecs look good, it's about make anything even vaguely eurocentric look bad
>>150502622both bad, kill self faggot
>>150502602Kys fag
>>150502622Get a load of the atheist chud over here. You either support the retardation of christians or you support the retardation of every other religion, no inbetween.
>>150502561>think that this can't be true>check wikipedia page>big fucking section headed "child sacrifice">its the second longest section of it
>>150502611>they could not afford to kill more than a minority of the populationno shit retard, I never said anything about them killing the majority of their population or anything like that
>>150502282I remember reading a story about a leader of a village wanting to marry off his daughter to the aztec. Sonthey sent the daughter ahead. By the time they got to the aztec they were dancing around a fire one of them wearing the skin of the daughter. Aztec are 100% the bad guys. There were a lot of tribes in Mexico, the Aztec got to where they are by defeating the other tribes.
>>150502616Honestly they were doomed no matter what- Europeans or not, they would wiped themselves off with their sacrifices regardless.
>>150502622Christians didn't do ritualistic sacrifices retard, this thread is about ritualistic sacrifices not whatever you're whining about
>>150502656nohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j91-6N_Q0A
>>150502839Libshit
>>150502817their nobility being highly incestuous would also have sealed their fate
>>150501760It's weird to depict the Aztecs as good guys anyways considering they themselves were an oppressive regime that conquered many nations and forced them to pay tributes via sacrifices. In fact, in real life Cortes actually managed to rally other tribes against the Aztecs.
>>150501760Was this an Aztec or just another Mesoamerican?The other nations in the region fucking hates the Aztecs
>>150502896Only whites* can be oppressive, anon*this does not include Jews, goy
>>150502505Clayface. Duh.And the Virgin de Guadelupe is Poison Ivy. Blooming Roses in Winter is old European magic shit, but since she’s gay with Spanish Joker’s girlfriend Aztec Batman will let her go because being gay in Aztec times was cool and valid.
The sacrifices were captured enemy warriors
>>150502949The sacrifices for Tlaloc specifically had to be crying, tortured children
>>150502896On one hand, the Conquistadors were essentially glorified pirates who were only there to steal gold and get rich (Keep in mind Spain was just coming out of the Reconquista so looting was still very much seen as a legitimate means of social mobility). On the other hand, the Aztecs waged proxy wars with their own subjects in what was essentially a power trip so they could steal captives to sacrifice to the gods.Really, the true victims of the conquest were the lower classes who traded one oppressor for another.
>>150502282Babies were sacrificed to Tlaloc; and Xipe Totec's rituals is so bad, to the point that he is throw under the bus in order to white wash the rest of the pantheon.
There's zero evidence Mesoamericans practiced "human sacrifice", and every indication that the Spanish made it up to justify their brutal treatment of indigenous populations.
>>150502759>pointing out native americans did not all get along and regularly attacked and stole the property of other tribesYou're not supposed to notice that, Anon
>>150502896After Pocahontas went the polar opposite way by trying to make a story of a child being sold off to the British into a "both sides bad" argument, you're never again gonna see nuance in portrayal of the natives. One has to be the bad guy and one the good guy, period.
Any second now that delusional autist will dump his copy pasta of totally real mesoamerica facts
>>150502622There’s a key differenceOne is a practice inherent to the religion itself. The other is the actions of individuals who practiced that religion.Human sacrifice reflects poorly on Aztec religion, but the conquests don’t reflect poorly on Christianity.It’s also worth mentioning that, while the Catholic Church has definitely done some bad shit over its history, priests often reeled in the worst of the Conquistadors' cruelty.
>>150501760>Look guys a modern cartoon has utter woke nonsense in it Beyond tired of this trope
>>150502991I mean Europeans did that to each other too so I don’t know what that’s supposed to prove
>There's zero evidence Mesoamericans practiced "human sacrifice", and every indication that the Spanish made it up to justify their brutal treatment of indigenous populations.
>>150502983https://www.science.org/content/article/feeding-gods-hundreds-skulls-reveal-massive-scale-human-sacrifice-aztec-capital
>>150503104Indigenous knowledge wasn't used to determine the origin of the skulls. Without indigenous knowledge we're left with the biases of western imperialists.
>>150502282Tlaloch, God of Rain, needed children; specifically.
>>150503112Kys trannyfag
>>150502958Cortez was based beyond belief
Kind of funny how the Aztec reputation got even worse after the attempt of white wash.The only difference is that Quetzalcoatl is the token good guy now.
>>150503125Weird for you to bring up your fetish randomly.
>>150502282>>150502563>>150502759There's a reason why nearly every surrounding tribe allied with the Spaniards against the aztecs.Not to whitewash the conquistadors actions, they did many horrific things to people who absolutely did not deserve it. I mean it's not like the Spaniards were above horrific torture and execution in the name of religion.but to act like the Aztecs were victims is horseshit.
>>150503138Cope
>>150502282>and a few brave volunteers
>>150502622Accepting this will make doubt my God, and God can read my mind. Please don't tempt me.
>>150503112How about the actual codexes written by the Aztecs?Yes there was a lot more to their culture than just “killing sacrifices” but they were NOT a peaceful people whatsoever.Now admittedly there were a lot of cases of Conquistadors making shit up to justify their own crimes, but there is a plethora of archaeological evidence supporting the fact that human sacrifice was a big part of Aztec society
>>150503147Reminds of Team America movie qoute. >Last year I went to Iraq. Before Team America showed up, it was a happy place. They had flowery meadows and rainbow skies, and rivers made of chocolate, where the children danced and laughed and played with gumdrop smiles.
>shows up with like 30 guys on a boat>teams up with everyone who hates you>topples your empire>destroys your gods and makes you worship his>fucks your women so hard he creates an entirely new race>leaves
>>150502583If the Catholic Church is God's Own and not the Eastern Orthodox Church, why did He send both Martin Luther AND John Calvin to point out how wrong they are?
>>150502521Dunno why Blumph would want to distract from the fact that most of the child molestation takes place in secular, leftist institutions...
>>150502328It's why Bugs Bunny lost Coyote Vs Acme
>ninja batman is just a silly story where batman and his villains get time travelled to warring states japan >aztec batman is "DEM AZTEKS WAS GUD BOIS"
>>150503189>>destroys your gods and makes you worship hisThey are catholics, some survived as saints (Santa Muerte)
>>150503169Stfu
You ever noticed how the environment got worse when we stopped sacrificing people to the gods
>>150503130The Aztecs sucked but, like, the Cortes was an awful person even by the standards of his time
>>150503228>Santa MuerteNot recognized by the church.
>>150501760From the flipside, read Numbers he totally does. In basically this exact same situation even.
>>150503247*Cortes was
>>150503242Genghis Khan killed so many, to the point the world cooled.
>>150501760Was he an Aztec or from another tribe?
>>150501760Yeah because those women and kids should be sacrificed to ensure good crops and the sun rising again, not mindlessly slaughtered for no reason.
>>150503254>>150503228reverence for Santa Muerta is considered idolic heresy even by the standards of the catholic church, who love idolatry.
>>150503262>Applying Old Covenant rules to New Covenant times
>>150503290Noahide laws still apply and not sacrificing to idols is one of them.
>>150503288Evangelicals are retarded I swear.No, images of Mary is not idolatry
>>150503279The sun rising was the prisoners of the flower wars.Children were for rain.Woman and youths for crops and fertility.
>>150503201One is made by Japan
>>150503306Isn't there a notion by Catholics that God for some reason made Mary free from original sin in order to give birth to Jesus despite it outright contradicting scripture and having no basis whatsoever?
>>150501760The movie was written by leftoids, they buy into the conspiracy theory that Mesoamerican human sacrifice (which included children) is "right wing" white people propaganda.
>>150503306>No, images of Mary is not idolatrypraying to them is.
>>150503193https://www.ed.gov/sites/ed/files/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdfThis graph is a lie and that data doesn't appear anywhere in here btw. Even if it was real though, the weight between the number of teachers and the number of Catholic priests would mean you're still more likely to get sexually abused going to church.
>>150503189>>leavesHe didn't, his bones are hidden in a Cathedral in Mexico City, they were relocated there at the request of Lucas Alaman, an important Mexican politician from Independence times.
>>150503147Entirely accurate, FUCK he Aztecs.
>>150503379What do you think the Ave Maria is?
>>150503518A snippet from the bible wherein the angel gabriel greets Mary, so the catholic church decided that was enough to turn it into a whole ass prayer to the virgin mary because reasons.
>>150503558Don't even get me started on immaculate conception bro, that shit wasn't even official dogma until the middle of the 19th century
>>150502505Killer Croc, for irony's sake since his name is literally Handsome John.
>>150503290That isn't a rule though?Thats a narrative where God has no objections to it?
>>150502323"What if the sacrifice consents?"
>>150502282Why lie like this?
>>150502505Clayface.
>>150502561>This guy seems trustworthy, just look at his long vampire teeth.Pagans are dumb they deserve having their trees cut down.
>>150504007Stfu tard
>>150502561Was everyone in the Aztec pantheon a fucking asshole? Or was it just the most powerful ones like Huitzilopochtli and this dipshit?
>>150504081Most pantheon gods were fucking assholes anon. That was the result of characterizing the cruel and unforgiving world ancient peoples lived in.
>>150502712Literally can't find what your talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztecs
>>150504081Quetzalcoatl didn't demand human sacrifice, FWIW.
>>150503159He's right. You have to understand two details:1: The Aztecs believed that their people were descended from the sun god, Huitzilopochtli, and through their special connection to him they could feed him power through blood sacrifice. Which it was important that they do, because the current 'era' of the world is supposed to end when the sun goes out and monsters descend from the sky to earth all of the living things on the surface of the world. 2: In Mesoamerican (which includes Aztec) mythologies, what afterlife you get depends ENTIRELY on how you died, not how you lived. Die in a fire, go to fire hell. Die to disease, spend eternity in the plague swamp, etc. The Aztecs essentially had their own version of Valhalla, the best afterlife of feasts and contests, which had THREE ways to get in:Die in battleDie in combat*Be sacrificed to feed the sun god*For long stretches of Aztec history, being sacrificed was an honor, a good thing, and you would get at least some volunteers who were doing it for the afterlife perks. During the fall of the empire, however, they were just sacrificing fucking EVERYBODY they could get their hands on because a combination of plague, famine, and invasion had them convinced the world was ending and the insane zealots took over the show.
>>150501760White people love using the Aztecs as an excuse for Europeans committing genocide across entire continents.
>>150502632This guy gets it.
>>150504221That's unfair. We don't know ANYTHING about big Q. All of our references to Quetzalcoatl are in the middle of someone else's myths, because he was an older, pre-existing god that was so well known at the time that they never bothered to write down his myths because everyone just... knew them by heart already. there wasn't any NEED to write them down. So we have a bunch of art of him, and some cameos in other myths, but no direct Quetzalcoatl mythology due to an unfortunate quirk of history. He is lost media.
>>150503189>>150503445Recently red his biographyAfter the conquest, his new biggest enemies were his own ego and spaintards sent by the crown to take care of things, he couldn't even enjoy his spoils of war properly because the fucking assholes of bureaucrats he served tried to take away everything he had to his name and even straight up exiled him.
>>150504081>Was everyone in the Aztec pantheon a fucking asshole?The common texts of Aztec religion was written by Catholics who wanted to legitimize their conquest.
>>150504319there's an earlier feathered serpent god from mayan folklore we know slightly more about by the name of Kukulkan and he was an asshole
>>150504171he meant this pagehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sacrifice
>>150504339Speaking of Mayans would have made a better for Batman.
>>150501760You know there was a time where thy actually tried to make poc's attractive, not just mogged retards from a flash animation tutorial
>>150504324Stfu troon
>>150504278Stfu thirdie
>>150504412>>150504431>t. no argument so has to fall back to name calling.
>>150504339The feathered serpent is a pretty common motif in the mesoamerican cultures.
>>150504278>it's fine when non-europeans do it because... it just is okay!!
>There was a tribe alongside the Aztecs known as the Culhua.>The story goes that in the 14th century, the Aztecs approached the Culhua chieftain asking if they could have his daughter as the wife of Huitzilopichtli, their patron god, and treat her as their "sovereign.">The chieftain thought this was a good idea since the two tribes were having cordial relations with each other, so he sent them his daughter.>He did not know that becoming this god's "wife" meant they would sacrifice the girl, flay her skin, and then have a priest wear it.>When the chieftain went to attend the festivities, he recognized the priest was wearing his daughter, and so the Culhua took arms and drove the Aztecs out.
>>150504713That was actually Ed Gein.He learned how to time travel.
>>150502949This!Fri Fri Aztecs!!! Fri Fri Azetecs!!!
>>150504477Sorry that the truth hurts you
>How about we make Batman.... but he's AZTEC!!!!!Worst Batman idea in some time. Truly a creatively bankrupt IP at this point
>>150504844Next we will see what Batman would be like if he were a septic tank cleaner and all the gadgets he would make for crime fighting which are inspired by his septic tank adventures.
>>150504844Fag
>>150504888>The batsuit is inspired by septic tank protective clothing>The joker's origin is that he accidentally slips into a vat of shitWould be a much more interesting take on the character than we've had in years
>>150504844Strange how they didn't went it Mayan inspired, since they even have a bat god (camazots)
>>150504844>VENTURE BROTHERS DID IT BETTER!!!!!!!!!!
>>150504844Imagine if instead we could've had Batman but he's a luchador style hero in Mexico fighting the cartels. But that's too creative. Can't soapbox about how the aztecs dindu nuthin with that premise.
>>150502052OH U
>>150504384I've never seen an ethnically mayan woman this hot.then again I've never seen an ethnically mayan woman who wasn't walking distance from gas station food.
>duuuuuuuude what if like.... batman was a pirate mann!!!!They should just make a Batman into an Assassin's Creed storyline at this point
>>150502423The main reason the Spanish were able to take the Aztecs out was because almost all the neighboring tribes fucking hated the Aztecs and helped fight them.
>>150503189You forgot they even tried to stop the other tribes when they won, but the tribes were so butt mad at the Mexicas that they razed the place to the ground
>>150505052Hey now, Leatherwing is actually pretty kickass.
>>150505097>it already existsI should have guessed
>>150501760I actually love the lack of self-awareness in this
>>150505052Obsessed
>>150504081Turns out that when your religion says that the gods need human sacrifices to power themselves up as to keep the primordial destroyer from erasing the world, things get fucked up.
>>150505115One old joke about capeshit, is that every outlandish concept already was done.
>>150505045It's called "Romanticization" for a reason, it doesn't need to be accurate, just appealing
>>150505115It's an Elseworld back when DC actually had fun with them. Independent of all the Batman theming it's still a solid swashbuckling tale
>>150505120The movie actually has a moment where the Aztec leader mistakes the Spaniards for gods, offers them sacrifices, and they decline shortly before a comet appears, which the Aztec take as a sign of the impending apocalypse for their failure to please the gods
>>150504081From a modern perspective; the worst ones are considered Xipe Totec or Tezcatlipoca.The "best" ones are Quetzalcoalt, and the amoral Huehuecoyotl.
>>150502759>>150504713This! This is the exact story I was remembering. Been awhile so I just had the basic notes of what happened.
>>150503191To be fair Calvin would have made for a pretty good euro-Two Face considering how batshit insane he went when he learned the "Free Will-Predestination" paradox and accidentally created the puritans as a result
>>150502630Yes, which guarantees that the left will talk about this.>>150502282>You don't understand, they asked for consensus before sacrificing children and women, which makes it completely different!!!lmao
>>150501760>aztec children when it doesn't rain for one day
>>150505375Wrong, that’s Sparta
>>150504940Oh yes it was the inspiration for that cowl which some mistook as a reak artifact, clickbait sites had a field day too saying that Batman was inspired by a Mayan god.
>>150504169I think that is the main difference between the religions of old and more modern day belief systems: the notion of humanity's specialness. Today's faiths hold that man was made in God's image to be stewards of the world or has some great spiritual energy that marks us as special. The older faiths were pretty clear: it was the gods' world and we were just living in it. The gods no more asked us for our consent to be sacrificed or bedded by them than we ask the chicken its consent to be butchered or the ox its consent to yoke it to the plow.
>>150503191>Everything is God's work, humans have no free will.you never read the bible.
>>150505436I mean, c'mon that's pretty fucking dead on a batman mask and cowl
>>150505402AKCHUALLY!, by the time sparta invented the pit of death the aztecs already had been using Cenotes for a couple of thousands of years to sacrifice children, workers found one with thousands of bones right under ciudad de mexico while building a subway.
>>150501760The Spainards did attack first as when they were greeted in the capital of Tenochtitlan Hernan Cortés took Moctezuma II after the Aztecs attacked a rival group called the Tlaxcala, a group which the Spanish encountered first before meeting the Aztecs. He feared that he would be attacked due to that minor association and went straight to hostage taking.
>>150505531I think the issue is more about their reasoning for doing it>we're going to kill these people because they're evil and deserve to dievs>we're going to kill these people to keep the sun from blowing up
>>150505515Aztecs and Maya weren't around that far back, what?
>>150502052You cheeky bastard.
>>150505531What about the millions of natives that died in the spanish silver mines that fueled the Empire? How is sacrificing people for profit not seen as bad? If they survived, these people were paid the bare minimum to not starve.
>>150502505None, all of the batman stuff is so unimagitivly tacked on.
>>150505479It was actually part of an exhibition for Batman's 75th anniversart where several artists made their own reimaginings. This one was from Kimbal, a Yucatan based studio, and they were thinking of Camazotz. (Tho I don't understand where it was first exhibited, i was then shown in the Mexican Museum of Design)https://www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/camazotz-el-batman-maya-que-desaparecio.html
>>150505661Because it wasn’t ritual murder
>>150505676Ah okay my bad. Yeah, yeah Mr. Cartoon did a cowl too.
I want to fuck Chel. A lot.
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>>150505445One example I always point to for this is the Trojan War.Not only is it basically just a catfight between Aprhodite, Athena, and Hera from the gods point of view.Zeus manages to fucking nap through half of the damn thing because Hera wore a magic girdle. And it wasn't like "WHAT A LONG SLUMBER". No, Zeus's reaction to napping through half of a defining war for mortal civilization is "dammit, overslept. I see the rest of you took advantage of that to defy my orders and do whatever the hell you wanted. Eh who cares, out of my hands now."The Trojan War in its entirety might as well be a giant shitpost about just how indifferent the Gods are to mortal suffering and that's one of the ones where they actively discourage human sacrifice
>>150501760What, a cartoon about Aztec Batman isn’t necessarily historically accurate?!?
>>150504221Some anthropologist believe that sacrifices to Quetzacoatl were actually done under one of his bynames.
>>150505687The church conditioned natives to accept that a life of suffering and abuse was worthwhile since it meant going to heaven, while the Spanish Empire profited from their exploitation and deaths to fund more wars until it's system of control eventually collapsed. How is that not just as devastating for millions?
>>150505952There's archeological evidences for sacrifices to Ehecatl.
>>150506105Dude honestly I went to a Californian mission as a kid and man there's a shit load of native American graves.
>>150502583>leaving out the other groups that object to child molestation>>150502622How's /pol/ these days?>>150503518A song written by a luthern
>>150506105Christianity and religion in general are such fucking psyops man
>>150502052fpbp
>>150505531The funniest thing is that those people would have been killed anyway without the existence of the Inquisition.
>>150506421>The redditor doesn't know what a psyops is. lol
>>150502561but I tought they drowned certain kids covered in tar? how would they cry if they were tar covered? or was that other maize god?
>>150505661Because western bankers made a bundle. Viva capitalism!
>>150502052Aztec heart puns always give me a hearty laugh
>>150506609I thought it was mayans who drowned babies to sacrifice them to xibalba, not the aztecs
>>150506609Possible of another ritual, Tlaloc's sacrifices had to be crying during it.
>>150502282>Aztecs did not sacrifice EVERYONE,Aztecs sacrificed children to Tlaloc, by torturing them to death and collecting their tears. Aztecs sacrificed women to a fertility goddess by forcing them to dance, and at the end of the dance their heads were cut off, while the priest would skin her headless corpse and wear the skin during the ceremonies.
>>150505535The Aztecs only invited the Spanish in to Tenochtitlan because their plan was to trap them there then attack when the Spanish had their guard down. Cortez to Moctezuma II hostage to prevent that. They treated Moctezuma like a king while he was their hostage.
>>150503189>topples your empireWasn't Cortes or even the allies that toppled the Empire. It was the smallpox spaniards accidentally brought with them that destroyed Aztecs.
>>150505515Aztec empire only existed for 100 years before Cortez conquered it. The Mayans were the ones throwing people and babies in to cenotes
>>150502958>Really, the true victims of the conquest were the lower classes who traded one oppressor for another.>could've had Maya batman based on camazots fighting to save what remains of his people against both the Aztecs and the Spaniards >mafia and corrupt officials are Aztec>Rouge's Gallery are spaniards
>>150502282It doesnt matter Mister redditor. The aztecs were evil and deserved their extinction. La malinche made sure of that. When she had cortez's men round up and execute every last son of Tenochtitlan.
>>150502947Bane would've been a Santa Prisca native who hates Aztecs for some incomprehensible reason
>>150504713>becoming this god's "wife" meant they would sacrifice the girl, flay her skin, and then have a priest wear it.Makes you wonder what caused ancient cultures to come up with fucked up shit like this
>>150502282let me guess, chairo right?
>>150501760Tell that to (((them))).
>>150501760capeshit writers have never opened a history book
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>>150505200If I remember correctly Coyotl just wanted to help a friend.
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>>150503306>No, images of Mary is not idolatryWhen you tell me you should pray to Mary so she can act as a fucking mediator to your prayer to be taken to Christ, instead of praying to Christ himself who is already with you in Spirit, that is idolatry.Catholics are retarded I swear.
>>150503147Why'd you whitewash that the Spaniards had no problem co-operating with people who torture children and perform human sacrifices though?
>>150507145He wasn't malicious but he filled the "guy who keeps causing problems for everyone by sticking his dick where it shouldn't be" role that many polytheist mythologies had.
WHITE PEOPLE BADNOBLE SAVAGES GOOD
>>150501760Did it show Cotez having native allies or disease? Like I know people want to boil it down to native vs European but by excluding other factors like Cortez having La Malinche ( I can't believe they didn't include her, she could have literally been this worlds Harley Quinn) they make the Spanish look more powerful than they actually were
>>150501760>>150481728
>>150504081>O my son, O our lord, O ruler, O my grandson: our lord, the lord of the near, of the nigh, is made to laugh. He is arbitrary, he is capricious, he mocketh. He willeth in the manner he desireth. He is placing us in the palm of his hand; he is making us round. We roll; we become as pellets. He is casting us from side to side. We make him laugh; he is making a mockery of us.
>>150504007Rain is rain
>>150504321It's a good thing everyone in this situation got fucked
>>150504007I mean, that's missing the point a little, isn't it?If you believe this guy exists and has power over the rain, then what choice do you have but to try and please him? No rain means that every starves.Doesn't really matter if he's good or trustworthy, you need the rain, so you give him what he wants.
>>150504909How is he Fag the only I'm seeing is you for an opinion.>Facepalm
>>150502561It's easy to make kids cry though, no need to even go for torture
>>150502712Is the first brazen bull sacrifices of Moloch and Baal Fuck carthage, btw
>it was so shit the mesoamerican autist didn't even wrote a reviewdamn
>>150504278Brown people sure love pretending their existence prior to the arrival of the white man was all peace and love
>>150501760noble savage niggas be like
>>150507173Saar please read again.
>>150506762Control of people at all costs I guess.
>>150504844The problem is, they didn't change the character at all, despite changing the location and time period.
>>150507245Probably because they just wanted to stick to a simple native vs coloniser narrative. In reality nearly the entirety of the army that toppled the Aztec empire was native, but if you want to include that you'd need to start asking difficult questions about why they'd side with the Spanish.>>150504324Catholics who were (half) natives themselves and had grown up with relatives who had lived under pre-colonial Aztec rule. And whose accounts are largely corroborated by archeological finds and what little we have of pre-colonial sources.
