yes he did
he left Shifu unfucked

I mean the movie glosses it over pretty quickly, but he did sort of go on a murderous rampage through the valley during his temper tantrum beforehand, instead of just trying to take the scroll.

>>150507247
He "laid waste to the valley" because the turtle wouldn't give him the dragon scroll.
Then the turtle fucked him up.
Shifu did nothing.

>>150507288
>Spend the majority of your life dedicated to a single task you're groomed for
>Akshully, go fuck yourself, you're never going to amount to anything and basically all of your life is worthless

>dude why are you sperging out?

He's basically a school shooter getting back at a society that wronged him
Also Kung-fu was their military force so he's a PTSD war victim basically

Shifu also did nothing wrong, he never directly told Tai Lung "My son, you must be the Dragon Warrior!", he only assumed Tai was destined for it due to being a prodigy.
>>150507302
It's still on him for lashing out. Might as well be saying a man raping a woman is justified because he's been blue balling for years and a woman changed her mind at the last second because he was acting too strangely about the impending sex.

WHAT ARE YA GONNA DO, BIG GUY? SHIT ON ME?

>>150507302
>at a society that wronged him
he wasn't wronged retard he was living a nice life in a prestigious palace, he wasn't owed the dragons scroll

>>150507247
Out of all the people to blame in this situation, Shifu is not one of them. If anything he wen't out of his way to descalate from start to finish, even risking his own life and not bringing himself to harm his adopted son.

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>>150507247
I am still mad they let Tai Lung took a fucking knee to Po and then obediently go back to his magic Gulag

He went on a rampage and started destroying and killing everything. Did you watch the film?

>>150507302
>He's basically a school shooter getting back at a society that wronged him
What did the inhabitants of the Valley do to him?

>>150507247
He's the unofficial mascot for all millennials that got fucked over by society.

>>150507507
He's somewhat to blame for not taking a moment to think "wait, what if I'm wrong and he's not the chosen one?" and then check with Oogway or something. Would have saved a lot of trouble. As Tai Lung says, he trained him until his body ached and his bones were broken, suggesting Shifu was being quite pushy in the pursuit of Tai Lung being deemed the Dragon Warrior. That said, Shifu never did directly say it to his son, though Tai Lung could sense that's what his father believed was in the cards for him. Tai Lung is still more in the wrong for freaking out and destroying the valley over the scroll

>>150507518
Seriously. They had the perfect chance for a wonderful redemption arc.
>Tai Lung is busted out and helps Po deal with Chameleon
>Po wonders if he still seeks revenge
>Tai Lung says no, he's seen the error of his ways, both when Kai took his chi and when Chameleon stole his skills
>Returns to the valley and reunites with Shifu, the latter reveals he's retiring and asks Tai Lung to accompany him on a journey
>Spinoff movie with Tai Lung coming into his own as he realizes he was always a great warrior, he just wasn't the Dragon Warrior
>Possibly returns for the final movie to help Po's closing chapter
I've pretty much given any hope of the next two movies being any good

>>150507528
Is that the interpretation you want to go with?

>>150507506
>>150507520
He was the acting military force for the valley, same as the 5
He was groomed to be a soldier to protect the village
When he was denied what he was owed he lashes out at what he was groomed to protect
Makes perfect sense

He's essentially a super soldier, molded from birth
Oogway was the villain
Just give him the gay ass scroll, there wasn't anything on it anyways, who cares

Consider this a retcon or even non canon but Oogway before meeting Shifu used to be a warlord obsessed with power just like Tai Lung. He saw Tai Lung's potential but he only wanted to use his potential to be the best fighter in the world vs Po who is the actual best fighter in the world but walks the road of pacifism hoping to make a world where he never needs to rely on violence for problems

>>150507659
He was never owed the scroll

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>>150507686
He was
Since the scroll is literally nothing
Tai lungs story is the battle between hard work and sacrifice vs destiny and fate

No matter how much you struggle and give up everything is predetermined to the point where even a fat fucking retard will defeat you just because of "destiny"
Tai Lung is a Greek tragic figure

>>150507737
Wrong. He wasn't owed shit because he was obsessed with power. He could have been a great warrior, but instead felt entitled to a role that wasn't destined for him. He was owed jack shit

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>>150507751
All molded and made to be that way by shifu

>>150507761
Shifu simply pushed him to be the best, he never once said "you are the Dragon Warrior", people need to fucking pay attention to the dialogue, never once does he say the words. Tai Lung says "you knew I was the dragon warrior" which means it was never told to him directly, he just picked up on what Shifu felt was going to be his destiny.
Keep fucking coping.

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>>150507247
Two wrongs don't make a right.

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>>150507773
Every fault that Tai Lung demonstrate is brought on by his treatment from Shifu and Oogway.
Oogway only saw darkness in Tai Lung when he realized Shifus teachings had gone too far.
Under different circumstances, Tai Lung would not of shown any form of darkness.
They are both the reason Tai Lung became what he did, a product of their own making.
Tai Lung was rejected by the only family he ever knew after being breed to fit one goal.
Than they fucking mocked him about it by placing a turtle shell on his back for 20 years as a reminder
All so they can play pretend about a scroll that had nothing on it in the first place

Master gaslighting
Pic related is literally his mindbreak moment

>>150507806
Oogway never had any involvement in Tai's training, so he's entirely faultless. Shifu is only partially at fault for not pumping the breaks and considering it wasn't his call to decide his son was the warrior of legend when that would be Oogway's decision in the end.
It's not gaslighting when Shifu genuinely thought his son was destined for greatness, and Oogway was of the belief that the cosmos would bring him the dragon warrior when the time way right.
Keep being delusional

>don't get the scroll
>sperg out
>murder a bunch of people
vs
>get the scroll
>see there's nothing on it and sperg out
>murder a bunch of people
Stop trying to ruin a cool as fuck villain by going
>ABLOO BLOO HIM MURDERING PEOPLE WAS MORALLY CORRECT BECAUSE HE GOT TOLD "NO" ONCE!
Fuck your bitch ass he merc'd them fucking rhinos

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>>150507247
It was said he wiped out an entire valley, I assume with all the people who lived there as well. All because he was told he wasn't Dragon Warrior material.


That is 100% on him.
He could have ended up like Furious Five and still been a hero. Mind you they all also were hoping to become the Dragon Warrior as well.
But he threw a temper tantrum and killed countless people.

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>>150507302
Tigress was raised literally the exact same way. Actually she was treated with far less affection from Sifu than Tai Lung.
She handled not becoming the Dragon Warrior much better.

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>>150507247
>Shifu

>>150507542
>I've pretty much given any hope of the next two movies being any good
Two more???! There's two more movies planned to be made?

>>150507853
This. Oogway knew he wouldn't appreciate the scroll even if he got it. The reward is being happy with the person you became and Tai Lung was implacable

>>150507813
shifu also explicitly apologizes for pushing the dragon warrior destiny on to tai lung
this isnt even subtext, he outright says he loved tai lung too much to even recognize that he was growing arrogant

and tai lung rejects it, at this point his entire identity is solely centered around being the best

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>>150507247
Tai this, Tai that

No one was more screwed over than Shen

>>150508251
shen is even worse than tai lung
his entire life is solely devoted to the accumulation of power

at least tai lung was slightly sympathetic
but shen just wants to rule the city and then the world

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>>150508264
Shen had a noble birthright, an actual RIGHT to power. He then used innovation to expand his reach and unify China, but was doomed by fate to die at the hands of the dragon warrior. With how fucked China is in universe, Shen unifying it is a net positive.

>>150508251
fuck that bird

>>150507247
Been saying this for years. He’s the only interesting part of the movie and a way better character than Po.
Also, he’s really sexy and it’s too bad that no fanart that I’ve seen can get him right.

>>150508382
>Also, he’s really sexy-
That's the real reason you like his character at all

>>150507247
It's a kung fu movie without the communist baggage. The original movies had no problem with assassin characters. Someone like him would be some mercenary for some rich guy, the part about being a crazed assassin would just be an extra.

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>>150508453
>It's a kung fu movie without the communist baggage

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>>150508414
That’s (a big) part of it. But I do genuinely think he’s the most interesting character in the film.

>>150508495
Kung fu movies had all kinds of politics. Do you think they were just mindless brawls? They also had to sell their movies in mainland China.

>>150508382
>>150508512
Femanons?! on /co/!?! it's more likely than you think! ugly retard-face Po looking femanons tho. which then pretend they're gay to save their tits from being posted online. I bet your tits are ugly to begin with that's why you don't post them.

>>150507247
The scroll was pointless but it could have sathim if they didn't make it secret for no reason

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>>150507247
Tai Lung failed to defeat the Kung Fu Panda, THAT'S what he did wrong.

>>150507659
Makes sense?
Perhaps.

Is it right, or justified in any capacity?
No.

Also noticed you neglected to answer what the valley people who suffered from his rampage actually did to deserve it.

>>150507302
>basically all of your life is worthless
No one but Tai-Lung decides that. His reaction is exactly why he wasn't worthy to become the dragon warrior

>>150508648
dumbass

>>150507247
>Ayo Oog, how's any of Shifu's students s'posed to learn that the scroll isn't important if you didn't even teach Shifu that?

>>150508121
They've been talking about making it a six-part series for a while, even if it takes like 20 fucking years between each sequel with the way they've been moving

>>150509550
No one except an executive who doesn't even work at Dreamworks anymore ever said KFP was supposed to have six movies. I don't know how anyone can still believe that after the eight-year gap between the third and fourth movies.

>>150508243
Which is both his fault and Shifu's, but at least Shifu realized his mistake and apologize, while Tai thought he could get the scroll and possibly make things right by getting the title he had been denied.

>>150507806
Oogway is a huge dick for building up that scroll. He was a master troll.

>>150508264
Shen is a bit sympathetic since he was only trying to stop his fate, he just went about it in the most retarded way. Though at the same time, the Soothsayer also could have helped by being more explicit and saying "Yes, it's a panda, but not just any panda, but one who has become the greatest warrior in all of China", and Shen's parents should have been realized sending him into exile with no supervision or even placing him in detainment was a really stupid thing to do. Love or not, he had just committed genocide.

>>150509604
The most recent movie literally sets up Po's successor, they clearly have something in mind, even if is going to take probably 10 years to get around to the next movie because DreamWorks just seems to love making these claims about multiple films and then just waiting to see if they even get to that fucking point. Same with Shrek which was said to be five parts ages before the series went on that long hiatus

People who maintain the "Villain did nothing wrong" motto are just shitty and perhaps even genuinely evil people who want to delude themselves that their actions are justified and shitty and evil people such as themselves have done nothing wrong.

Like how a rapist might say their victim/s deserved it.

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>>150507518
>fucking SHEN is bowing too
>even though that doesn't fit his character or story at all

>>150509692
okay shifu

>>150509750
Yea, at least with Tai Lung he had talked a bit with Po so there was some established reason for a change of heart. I don't think Shen even got to say much other then glower in his cage while Chameleon used his powers. While it could have been interesting to see him admit he was wrong for what he did, it definitely felt like the writers just wanted the dead villains and heroes to suck Po's black and white dick

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>>150509750
>doesn't fit his character or story at all
>his story is about rejecting defeat to a warrior of black and white (fat panda)
>no matter what he does that fortune never changes
>accepts his fate as a wooden mast he could easily dodge falls on him crushing him like a 葱油饼
>implying bowing to the warrior that bested you is out of character in a martial arts series
skadoosh

>>150507247
>Scrolls message is work hard and be yourself
>WE NEED TO KEEP THIS TOP SECRET AND MAKE IT FORBIDDEN SURELY THIS IS A SMART IDEA FOR A SCHOOL

>>150509813
>writers just wanted the dead villains and heroes to suck Po's black and white dick
The whole "resurrected villains" plot in KFP4 was so stupid. Po's rogues gallery is 3 people long, and Shen didn't have any super noteworthy kung-fu, so the writers had to invent a bunch of other villains for Chameleon to use. Not to mention how stupid the idea of "stealing kung-fu" is, even for a fantasy movie.

>>150509892
>Scrolls message
there's nothing written on the scroll

kill yourself

>>150509898
I thought those were from the TV series

>>150509892
If retards are too retarded to be trusted with the secret because they'll tard it up and go school shooter, yes, it's a pretty good idea keeping it a secret because clearly the tardos can't be trusted to not be retarded

>>150509898
It wasn't just villains, it was also other heroes and kung fu masters. I would say the stealing kung fu could have worked, if the chameleon's motivation were a bit more convincing than "she was called small"

>>150509908
Tai get off 4 chan. There is no secret it's just yourself

>>150507302
>>150508106
If there had to be a movie about passing down the dragon warrior role, then it should have been Tigress. Through in a Tai Lung redemption arc too and you could've had a stellar movie. Awkwafina is so forced holy fucking shit.

>>150510225
*throw in a Tai Lung
Damn I need sleep

>>150509908
>>150509892
>anon isn't old enough to understand the psychological terror of some martial arts school having the "dragon scroll" and the "dragon warrior" who throughout history maintains peace in the valley
you've never lived in a time without internet, and it shows. Back then you relied on word of mouth to hear about things and having to verify with your own eyes. Imagine hearing about all this, calling it bullshit, then seeing this magnificent fucking temple at the top of 6 billion steps and you finally get to the front door and they just kick your ass back down them. you'd be afraid of that shit too

>>150507659
>He was groomed to be a soldier to protect the village
no he wasn't Shifu merely taught him Kung Fu because he showed talent and unlike the 5 their is no mention of him going out and saving the day at all. You are insane

>>150509892
>WE NEED TO KEEP THIS TOP SECRET AND MAKE IT FORBIDDEN
because people needed to believe it was special to make it special

>>150510225
I wouldn't mind a new character if they hadn't immediately said "yea, it's this kid we just introduced you to"
Could have had Po and the Five all finding possible students, but leaving it up in the air who would be worthy of becoming the new Dragon Warrior. Of course, there's also the fact that we barely get any idea of the passage of time between films. The first three all seem to happen within a year or two for Po, while the fourth seems to be not long after since Po doesn't look any older. I can get Po's youthfulness helps keep him amusing, but it would be nice if we saw time pass and the Five become mentors to their own students, setting up both a new Dragon Warrior and possibly a new force greater than the five.
Nope, Po's journey is going to presumably wrap up before even a decade has passed in-universe.

>Tai Lung is sympathetic!
>No, he's a villain!
All the Tai Lung arguments would stop if people realized that a "sympathetic villain" is both sympathetic and still a villain.

>>150510477
Wouldn't hurt if people also stopped putting all the blame on Shifu when he never directly said "son, you're the dragon warrior". Yes, he put too much faith in his son, but it's like nobody paid attention to the dialogue and subtext, so we get people treating Tai Lung like he's been wronged by everyone when it was mostly just an overbearing dad and having too high of an expectation of himself.

>>150507302
He could've easily been the Dragon Warriors right hand man and taken the Tigress spot.
There's no position that's more glorious than 'Arrogant Kung-Fu guy who has a good heart'

>>150511078
>dude just be a wage cuck slave, it's fine

The whole concept of there being a chosen one was wrong , it should have been about making your own destiny

>>150507247
Yes he did, at his forst fur cut he freaked out and nerve struck the barber and after he spilled the industrial strength cologne, and got into the barrel of hair, he knocked over a tub of lather, ran into a shelf of shampoo, and snapped a cardboard cutout of Crew-cut the Clown right in half! I've never been so humiliated in all my life!

>>150507247
He killed a ton of people over a title he never truly understood.

>>150507302
You have a third-worlder's understanding of philosophy and morality. Believing you deserve something does not entitle you to kill and destroy, niggerbrain.

>>150508280
Except for all the people he killed in the name of his unjust conquest and oppression.

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>>150511555
I respectfully disagree

>>150508382
>>150508512
>he's an evil villain
>but he's hot
>so that means he's morally ambiguous and interesting
Lmao

Dude tried to pull a Raoh. Never do that.

>>150511587
Only Genghis united and educated numerous tribes for the sake of a greater empire and the enrichment of all peoples beneath his rule. He fought with those who rejected what he offered and when he won, he made them part of his people.

Tai Lung felt entitled to kill and destroy because he was upset that he didn't get a title he didn't even understand the meaning of (which is why he didn't get it) and then when he came back for revenge, he lost to the guy who did deserve it.

>>150511578
>Except for all the people he killed
You mean the people who were prophesied to sire a warrior to kill him?
>unjust conquest and oppression
China, as portrayed in the Kung Fu Panda universe, is fucking rife with banditry. Some of the biggest city states are literally ran by organised crime.

>>150511641
>You're gonna be evil and someone is going to kill you
>INCONCEIVABLE! I SHALL BECOME EVIL AND START KILLING PEOPLE TO PROVE THEM WRONG!
Retard logic.

>>150511633
>Po deserved it
Po did nothing to deserve it other than being born and lamenting his fate, whilst indulging in gluttony

If there was ever a character less deserving of something, it's the fat retarded panda bear

>>150511653
Except the part where he became a kung fu master and achieved the exact sort of enlightenment that the Dragon Warrior title requires. Po understood. Tai Lung didn't. That's why Po won and Tai Lung got evaporated like a fart in the wind.

>>150511662
>Trained 1 week in the mountains while he faught Shifu for some food
>This is somehow more deserving than 20 years of Tai Lung or Tigress training

>BUT HE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE SCROLL MEANT
IT HAD NOTHING ON IT, IT COULD BE ANYTHING
Oogway made all the shit up, he invented the entire cult of religion for the valley
The Dragon Warrior isn't even a thing
The only Reason Po was even given the title is because Panda's are good with Chi

>>150511135
>reeeeee, I cannot have everything I want, now I am gonna kill a bunch of innocent bystanders instead of at least partially guilty man

Literal nigger behaviour.

>>150511714
Your endless sperg rage is perfect demonstration. You don't get it. You refuse to get it. You can have it directly explained to you and instead of accepting things as they are, you rage and seethe and lash out, proving that you were always a worthless faggot undeserving of the satisfaction you mistakenly convinced yourself that you deserve.

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These threads only serve to remind me of the missed potential of KFP3 and especially 4.

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>>150511740
Peaceful Valley was created by Oogway in the first place after he conquered his way through all of China and founded Kung-fu
It's basically a destruction of Oogways Kung-fu, the people themselves don't matter other than the fact that they're idol worshippers of Oogway and his kung-fu and mysticism

Cultish fanatics DESU

>>150511840
So then why do you think Tai Lung deserves the dragon warrior title when you don't even respect the organization that created the title?

>>150511840
any movie after the second isn't canon

>>150507247
I wonder when Tai Lung apologists started becoming so comfortable defending him. The way you Taifags spin his story makes it seem like hes just a hardworking guy who got denied his due reward for seemengly unfair reasons, when hes actually a madman who went on a killing spree because he didnt get a scroll that would (supposedly) give him even more power than he already had. He blames Shifu for not going agaisnt Oogway and making him dragon warrior but Shifu trained him so good that he can solo pretty much any fighter in China. Do you all seriously think a guy who throws a deadly tantrum when he doesnt get his way should be the dragon warrior?

>>150511859
The title isn't real, nor is the station, nor is the scroll. That's not what the argument is

It's gaslighting someone for 20 years to be one way, then ripping it away from the person and then painting him as the villain when he hits you back and saying it's basically all of his own fault

>>150508251
All Shen had to do was not be a murderous bird. He's possibly the only KFP villain you cant twist into being tragic.

>>150511920
He got painted as the villain because he psychotically lashed out at random people and harmed them because he wanted the special boy titled whose significance he never truly understood. He prized the title and the prestige, but not the meaning.

>>150509656
The scroll did had a very positive mental effect on Po, so Oogway was right on doing that.

>>150511714
The 3rd movie kinda retcons this with Po being so stronk due to being born with dragon chi or some shit. Which I actually like better than that "just habeeb lmao" bullshit.

>>150507542
Nope, sorry anon but needed to focus on the female new addition character being better than Po at everything.

>>150509914
The series arent canon to the movies, and i believe no TV villains show up in KFP 4.

>>150510225
The concept is bad by default, as nothing in previous movies gives any notion that the dragon warrior title can be passed or revoked. The closest thing to this is a tv episode where Shifu pretends that someone can get the title by beating Po so he takes stuff seriously.

>>150511955
Going in circles
The only reason he prized it was because he was groomed from birth to prize it
If at any point in those 20 years oogway said
>Yeah you know this shit? It's all fake right
Would he sperg out as he did?

Tai Lung was the victim of heavy societal influenced upbringing upon the typical hero archetype
Tai Lung is the victim of Oogway’s ‘visions’ and had his entire life and talent thrown away at Oogway’s will.
Oogway is ACTUALLY a Feudal lord, deciding who will live and die by his sword of fate.
And then when his actions have consequences, what happens
>Peace out bro, this is your problem now

>>150511998
The first movie was a lesson about accepting things as they actually are and that's demonstrated by training Po in a way that works for him and plays to his innate strengths and habits, instead of trying to make him into another Tai Lung.

Po and Tai are two sides of the same coin. Someone who doesn't take the to technical side of kung fu easily, and someone who does. Someone who naturally grasps the spiritual/philosophical side of kung fu, and someone who doesn't. Someone who is flexible and adaptable, and someone who isn't.

Po tells him to his face "There is no secret ingredient" and Tai Lung refuses to accept that. And then he loses. Po wins.

>>150511951
He thinks his parents hated him!!!! That's deep

>>150510652
I simp for Tai Lung but put all the blame on Oogway. At least the narrative knows Shifu fucked up, but on the other hand it treats that fortune cookie turtle as if he's a wise god when he's really just a stoner that happens to be really good at beating people up.

>>150511135
>hehehehe, wagie
Go back to redd!t, kiddo

>>150512095
"Victim of society" my ass. He's responsible for his own actions and even when directly told the Dragon Warrior secret, and getting to see the scroll, he still lashes out. He wasn't give the title because that's who he is. He's a violent, but supremely talented idiot. Unenlightened, unwilling to accept reality.

Just like you!

>>150512015
How is Zhen better than Po at anything besides being sneaky?

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movie about tigress adventures with white men when?

>>150512128
Oogway did nothing though, he simply said "you ain't the guy" and that was that. He wasn't saying or doing a thing to Tai Lung

>>150512128
What is Oogway fault? All he did was tell Tai Lung he's not the dragon warrior.

>>150512176
>>150512182
He didn't teach Shifu about the scroll before letting him train his own students, that's already a huge fuck up. How was Shifu supposed to train someone that knew not to base their self worth in the scroll or being the Dragon Warrior if he himself didn't know how it really worked?

>>150511840
SO you do not refute that all that this furry nigger can do - is to kill defenceless peasants and as soon as hi confronted his actual rivals he jobbed so hard that he was TRAPPED AND GANGRAPED for THOUSANDS of years?

>>150512234
How is it Oogway's fault for Shifu's overhyping the scroll? How is it Oogway or Shifu's fault that one of his students becomes so obsessed with it he becomes a crazy murderer?
Besides, Shifu's training turned Tai Lung and Po into the strongest masters of China, so it's not like the existance of the scroll impacted the effectiveness of his training.

>>150507247
>chimp out and raze the local village because you saw oogway say no to Shifu about your destiny as the dragon warrior
What good does this do? Nothing. He did something wrong.

>>150512468
>He's not fit to be the Dragon Warrior and protect all the peoples of this land
>How can you tell?
>Because he's currently killing the peoples of this land.

>>150512234
Why would he say "the scroll is just a metaphor" or whatever? The whole point of the dragon warrior was that it would be someone who was great at kung fu, which is already supposed to teach a person to not think they are great and powerful. You sound like someone who needs everything laid out for them, or else it's the world's fault if you fuck up.

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>>150511578
>Except for all the people he killed in the name of his unjust conquest and oppression
WHERE THE HELL DO YOU THINK THEY ARE?????

>>150512398
Shifu literally raised and trained Tai Lung to believe he was meant to achieve something he couldn't, and Tigress's flashback showed he just raised and trained the rest of them coldly after that, all specifically because Oogway did not teach him how the dragon warrior thing worked first.

Po had to literally fall out of the sky and learn what the scroll meant by pure chance for the lesson to finally get learnend by anyone. Oogway was a legit shit teacher, he basically trained everyone wrong, as a joke.

>>150512529
Shifu, Tai Lung, and the Furious Five all needed it spelled out for them, the movie literally proves this.

>>150512552
Only because they're idiots who took things too seriously. That's on them, not Oogway

How long until we have Shen sympathizers?

>>150512691
Every student fails to learn the critical thing and you don't blame the teacher?

>>150511591
Poor writing is why he’s “evil” and deep down you know this is true.

>>150510346
>Should we teach our kids hard work and self determination
>Nah lets teach them that they have to be born special
>Also let's make a fake vip scroll to further emphasize the importance that you must be special

>>150507496
>Might as well be saying a man raping a woman is justified because he's been blue balling for years and a woman changed her mind at the last second because he was acting too strangely about the impending sex.
Do you think people on this website wouldn't actually argue that?

>>150507247
yeah any masculine character = bad in kiketoons

>>150507247
What you should be saying is, "He deserved a redemption arc and a story dedicated to exploring his character".

>>150512840
That's like saying if a student doesn't grasp algebra it's the fault of the teacher even though they taught it as clearly as possible. Some people are just stupid.

>>150512831
Well if that Soothsayer just kept her fucking mouth shut the entire genocide wouldn't have happened to begin with.
Dumb bitch wanted her job security and thought most of the Panda's in China were a worthy sacrifice. Based

>>150512918
Edgelords aren't people

>>150512883
The story not going the way you wanted it to doesn't mean it's bad. It can still be bad, but freaking out and making Tai Lung threads every few weeks to seethe about how the villain who was written to be a villain isn't a villain because the writing didn't give a good enough reason for one guy to believe he's the villain is fucking stupid nigger behavior.

Tai Lung isn't entitled to kill people because he had a bad childhood. Simple as.

>>150512954
Again, not one student in that temple grasped the lesson. Po only learned it because of a chance conversation with his adoptive father.
The one success had to learn it elsewhere. Yes, Oogway was a bad teacher.

>>150507247
He lost all sympathy when he took his anger out on innocent civilians who had no way to defend themselves against him. Fuck him.

>>150513017
>noooo, dumb people need things to be explained to them!
Cope harder

>WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE OOGWAY WORSHIPPING PLEBS
Nah Fuck em

>>150509750
KFP4 was not a good movie.

Does anyone actually unironically like Po?

>>150513165
Let me guess poor people are poor cause they deserve it

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>>150512531
So that's what he meant by "never get involved in a land war in Asia."

>>150512987
Unconfirmed that he killed people.

>>150513389
>20 years in maximum security jail with 1000 guards
He killed people

>>150512531
That's nothing, look up the death estimates of the yellow turban rebellion.
Mao's famines were a fucking Tuesday.

>>150507302
>Defending School Shooters to prove his point
Lmao!

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>>150512531

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Fuck Tai Lung apologism, better gimme your KFP fic recs (btw already read that handyman anon x Tigress smut fic, enjoyed it greatly)

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>check entire thread
>no a single anon posted this
Shame.
SHHHAAAAAAMMMME!!!!!

>>150513389
Yeah all those guys who got knocked into a massive pit and thrown off a mountain were totally fine.

>>150513817
Had it coming. Not why he was in jail.

>>150513914
Did enough damage to be locked up like that under the watch of numerous guards, which he killed. Why do you presume that he didn't kill anyone before then or that anyone deserved to die because he had a tantrum about not getting his special boy scroll?

>>150513791
The weak "...what?" that follows is one of the funniest lines in the movie.

>>150513311
I know a fan who likes him so much they get annoyed about how little love Po gets from the fandom. I don’t dislike Po, but I don't care about him that much.

>>150507302
If anything, his response just cements why he wasn't worthy.

>>150507263
wtf dude

>>150512531
Adulthood is realizing that Shen is actually pretty tame by Chinese warlord standards. And he would have revolutionized the firearms industry had he succeeded, but I suppose this is the canonical reason why China fell behind in firearms OOTL.
>>150512529
/thread

>>150513791
>the scroll is supposed to be a reflection, nothing more
>Po sees himself, because he's happy with who he is
>Tai Lung sees nothing, because he never saw himself as anything beyond the scroll
MISERY KINO

>>150509914
No, though the ones from the tv show were actually pretty good

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>>150513683
i will give you my po/tigress smutfic once I've got off my lazy ass and finished it

>>150513311
I like Po. I think they did a good job mitigating his chosen one status with his goofy hero worship. He's just happy to be there. It makes Oogway's choice seem prescient because making one of the Five the Dragon Warrior would have changed them and sown division. Po is still just Po. I also like that the only reason he did better than the pros against Tai Lung is because he's too fat for the nerve strikes to hit

>>150513791
>filename
Kek

>>150507518
Same, tho it's Kai being there in the first place that bugs me more. Looked pretty much like his souls got obliterated in his movie.