>Mogged by Dana Terrace ouch
>>150516271The real question is which one will be caught touching children first.
>>150516271Pan claiming that this would be the hottest indie pilot to come out this month didn’t age all too well
>>150516373Kek
>>150516271>barely passed 200,000 views in a few weeksHow hard is Pan coping?
>>150516373no way he said that
I can't help but feel bad for Pan. The pilot has been in development for 15+ years and no one is gonna remember as anything other than the project that embarrassed Genndy and Lazzo
Pan shouldn't have made his passion project as his first cartoon attempt.
>>150516553He did, but I think he meant it more in a hyperbolic, tongue in cheek kind of way. I think he assumed no other pilot would come out this month, or that KOG wasn’t gonna release until after September. He wasn’t to know…
>>150516271His older design was so much better but I can kinda get why he changed it. The older look doesn't scream lovable bastard as much as Lokis new look does
>>150516271I am sorry, and I love Pan's work and he really is one of my favorite content creators, but this pilot ain't it. The combination of his voice acting being ass, the general art direction being too stylized and his constant needs to ad bumper-like segments and segways inbetween is very jarring. It's a painfully mediocre pilot.
>no porn it truly is over
>>150516373Jesus christ lol
>>150516637He should have prepared himself for Guinevere releasing somewhere around the time.
>>150516604I've heard IJQ pretty much say the opposite of this kind of advice lol. Seriously he could've just made an 11 or 5 minute short with this base concept but I guess the ego took over.
I'm gonna be honest I don't like the idea of "the indie animation scene" just becoming a dumping ground for a bunch of 2010s creators who already had cartoons on TV but can't get jobs anymore. The reason the indie boom was a good thing was because people not from California were getting a chance to get attention for once.
>>150516824Yeah it might've worked if it was shorter. Hopefully Pan takes this as a learning experience.
>>150516868>Hopefully Pan takes this as a learning experience.lmao
>>150516827The Indie Scene that anyone cares about is already dominated by people with years to decades worth of experience, so it also becoming dominated by people with televised shows isn't surprising The actual indie scene with shit like Wastelandia, GET FATTER NOW, and Satina will have to subside with table scraps
People here want Pan to be upset about the view count but by all accounts it doesn't bother him which is really funny.
If he keeps a humble budget and is consistent, he'll get a small but loyal fanbase imo
>>150516271Doesn't even have a tvtropes pageKWAB
>>150517068What was the point of him putting the pilot out if he doesn't care about people viewing it?
>>150516775There's 13 pics on rule 34, but they were all made before the pilot came out. Bianca isn't hot enough and Loki feels like sexyman bait.
>>150517149...To make art you're passionate about?
>>150517068No one wants him to be upset, they want him to acknowledge that he put out a flawed pilot and see him get better as a result. All of the threads we've had on Loki IRL have been mostly civil constructive criticism.
>>150516271According to pan, KoG coming out actually gave LIRL a noticeable boost in viewers.
>>150517233Did it? It doesn't seemed like it changed that much unless Dana gave him a shoutout.
>>150516271It broke the 4th wall in the 1st minuteHe should have hired a better writer, but his ego of course made him think "I'm too big to fail!" just like every fucking liberal led project in the last decade
>>150517287>He should have hired a better writerThe moment I learned DaftPina co-wrote the pilot with him, I knew it was doomed from the start.
>>150517340Why would anyone trust that fucking weasel with anything?
>>150517340oh man that explains it
>>150517068>implying pan didn't make this threadReverse psychology marketing always works on 4chan.
>>150517350>>150517358Who
>>150516271Feces mogged by vomit
>>150517350For some reason every time Daft gets caught being a fuck up he kind of just crawls away from the consequences, probably something to do with the Art Community being whipped
>>150517490>guy whose only claim to fame is a channel where he digs up "drama" about online art communities>his other claim to fame is a fucking terrible "pilot">for some reason Pan wants to be friends with this guyWhy would anybody open communication with a talentless hack who will only try to backstab you?
>>150516373STOP HE'S ALREADY DEAD
>>150516604Doing this is fine but you need realistic scope. Loki IRL could have been a monthly short on his channel for years.
>>150516271Who?
>>150517261Recommended video. 2 pilots coming out so close together caused some cross pollination.
>>150516637In defence to Pan, i thought KOG would release in Halloween
>>150517539Daft was also working on his own Pilot at the time and I assume Pan must have considered that good enough to start working with himOther than that Daft has the rep of platforming artists, animators and their current projects, so he's built up some good graces despite his most well known exploits were about him being a bitter piece of shitWith the Pizza Party Podcast now dead in the waters and Loki IRL in stagnation because no one cares Daft might just abandon Pan for a new guy to leech
>>150516271>Guinevere is Women's YA dystopian SLOP>Loki IRL is battle shonen dystopian KINO
>>150517233>285K viewsseems like copium to me
I like that people act like 286,000 people watching something isn't enough. You'd be happy as an artist if your cartoon got 50k, let alone that much.
>>150516709>his constant needs to ad bumper-like segments and segways inbetweenBut the bumpers, ads, and segues are the best parts of it
>>150517539Pan has always been bad with who he picks to keep as friends. Remember Nolan?
>>150518051The fact that he stayed with his pooner gf after she got her tits chopped off tells me everything I need to know about him. I'm surprised a nastier individual hasn't taken advantage.
>>150516960I don't know about Get Fatter Now, but Wastelandia and Satina both had people working on it who also have mainstream industry experience. Believe it or not, Loki IRL did too.
>>150518019I think I'd kill myself if I put out a pilot that only got 50k views after a few weeks. Obviously that isn't the case here but it might as well be.
>>150517068>but by all accounts it doesn't bother himhas he gone on stream and spoken about the reception to the pilot yet? Just because he hasn't a social media meltdown yet doesn't mean he's not bothered by it. If we could hear him talk about it, it would be pretty easy to figure out how he really feels. Pan has never been good at hiding his power level.
>>150518049>But the bumpers, ads, and segues are the best parts of itAnd that's the problem.
pan does really nice backgrounds, his character designs are fucking abhorrent
>>150517287>He should have hired a better writerI think he tried to, but his idea of a "better writer" was Daft Peñis. Say what you want about Pan's pilot, but Loki IRL is a god damned masterpiece compared to Peñis' "Saturday's Off".
>>150518134>has he gone on stream and spoken about the reception to the pilot yet? Didn't he literally do exactly that? Or was that stream something else?
>>150517490He's not big enough to cause any real outrage. People in his immediate orbit will get mad when he does something shitty, but they'll move on as soon as the next thing comes around. In order to for real outrage to stick, you need so many people getting mad about it all at once that it creates a feedback loop of people getting mad which reminds other people that they were mad so they get mad again and so forth. I also get the impression that he brown noses like a little bitch behind the scenes. People who crave the validation (like Pan) would likely eat that shit up.
>>150518158I don't disagree
>>150516271Medabots but with toons and the human look like cartoons so you cant tell them part
>>150516271Reminder It hasn't even surpass Wastelandia and might never will
>>150518746why so many views for LS Mark?
>>150517115People still use TV tropes?
>>150517287>He should have hired a better writercome to think of it, I have yet to encounter a pilot with more than decent writing
>>150518928actual good writers are really hard to find. One of the major problems is that every dickhead who thinks they have good ideas is suddenly a writer because they call themselves one. Not everyone knows how to draw or make music but most people can read, write, and a lot of those people think they have great ideas. Finding a real writer is like trying to find a chocolate bar in a pool filled with poop. At a quick glance, it all looks the same and while you can figure out what is what, at a certain point you may get sick of sniffing shit and decide to DIY.
>>150516337I think you are confusing Dana Terrace with that one girl who made 12 forever that literally made public post about how bad she wanted to rape preteen little boys. There are more than one white female animators out there anon. Pan my jerk it to teen cartoon girls, but they are not real, who cares? He has shown no interest to teen girls or younger in any of his social media or videos. I think you are barking up the wrong tree here anon...
>>150519261pan might* jerk it to teen cartoon girls
desperate your turn
>>150516775I am going to make an animated porn parody this fall. I am busy working on my webcomic right now, but it's on the top of my to do list before the year is over with, and yes, I am one of the most talented animators on all of 4chan! So it's going to be a high-quality porn parody featuring Bianca get the ever-loving shit fucked out her!
>>1505187465 minutes in MS Paint
>>150517845fucking lurk moar BAKA
>>150519604
>>150517940yo
Since one of the main themes of this pilot can be summed up as "be cringe, be free" I wonder if Pan will include the cringy anime type fan service stuff. I know he wants the series to be PG but PG anime still kinda sorta do that stuff.
>>150519261>>150519279Honestly Pan really does seem the sort who'd prefer to fuck cartoons over real people.to the point that he wouldnt be a rapist or molester because he thinks real people are not as good as cartoons
>>150518108Not enough for anyone to care and Satina couldn't keep up the momentum
>>150517115It's amazing he hasn't created one himself too lolA guy I drew art for for his project made a TV tropes page for a book he hasn't even published or released chapters for yet and he's already started getting autists asking him about it as a result I guess Pan didn't think ahead with that?Loki IRL was aimed at exactly the demographic that obsesses over TV tropes and early 2000s widget shows/games
>>150517068agree, but it kinda fells like he give up on his dream to make a good pilot. Now it's just make it and don't matter how bad it is.
>>150519261I'm reminded of that one joke he made about moving to Japan because the age of consent was lower (With a Zone-tan cameo, no less)
>>150520292It was a different time
>>150516271My only real complaint is that Pan decided he should voice 3/4th of the main gang and that no one stopped him.I know Pan's girl voice is a bit he does regularly so he wants one character with that voice, but he did not need to also voice the Hispanic with the light mustache and him voicing the statue guard if he's already voicing LokiEverything else, like his obsession with Goth Girls and him embarassing writing bios for Bianca's favorite games, I can look past, make fun of, or find charming. But him voicing the first like 3/5 characters you hear in the intro is soooo off putting.
This post is an anchor for all the reasons you stopped watching Rebeltaxi.>Pan hates white guys>Pan intentionally barks out idpol talking points to make sure viewers don't think he's getting soft with people he used to like before the purity spiral took them (e.g. Hotdiggedydemon, who is also a Simpsons fan and made a very detailed argument as to why Hank should be allowed to play Apu)>Pan, a YouTube-employed career entertainer, has personally bullied an artist from a niche NSFW community I care about (Penken) who was just trying to network with him, which has never gone public, and Penken was also abused by Pan's disgraced fag buddy>Pan runs with shitty work-stealing trendtubers like Jorge, demonstrating lower intelligence in spite of his supposed awareness of internet culture and oh-so-clever humor - this is essentially like being a gaming YouTuber working with Nexpo, who stole his brand and 90% of his research from Scare Theater and Reddit, and has rewarded his researchers with a single guest slot on one video>Pan has intentionally thrown shade at Homestuck for no fucking reason and tried to write it off as facetious when he obviously just hates Hussie>Pan made a big show of apologizing to Enter publicly even though Enter is a trailer-park idiot who deserves it>Pan likes shitty alt comedy like Eric Andre and Tim And Eric and Tom Green>Pan draws all his art and comics 5+ years in advance (and used to stream them, which means he wanted attention for them) but pretends he's under a strict day-by-day work schedule to come off more impressive and scrupulous to his customers>Pan is connected to the Y2K scene, which is crawling with abusive antifa mean girl types
>>150518019When compared to every single other pilot 286k is a miserable amount, even Monkey Wrench mogs it
>>150520388>the Y2K scene, which is crawling with abusive antifa mean girl typesit sucks because i really like y2k aesthetics and shit but it just has to be infiltrated by the biggest faggots imaginable
>>150521068It's so funny because Y2K was always the optimistic, luxurious, intelligent branch of the millenium aesthetic, but somehow people who are *older* than me (1999) have conflated that with the grungy You Wouldn't Download A Car System Of A Down cop-hater aesthetic from around the same time period, which, despite Jet Set Radio being influenced by Fight Club, had no connection to it and are now trying to integrate antifascist and even anti-Israeli politics into it. Why do these fuckers even play video games?
>>150521068>>150521533Pretty much. I once dated a twink who was big into Y2K and he massively hated landlords as a conceot and lived off social security. His BPD friends literally tried to get rid of me because a 5 year age gap was "icky" ans because I shit posted on 4chan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUr7565_iUo
>>150521068that happens with everything that ever becomes "a scene"
>>150521559I hate how many cute twinks tall into these kinda pipelines.And women too.
>>150521559>he massively hated landlords as a conceotI mean...join the club. Landlords fucking suck, desu. The rest of the situation kind of sucks, but you should probably not go around advertising that you post on 4ch. There's a stigma that will be hard to beat.
>turns into another /pol/ thread ffs give it a rest. >waaah anti-isreal suck it jew
I honestly had no idea this even came out. Admittedly I am not subscribed to him and only watch his stuff sometimes but I'm on this board almost every day and have still heard nothing.Is it that bad or just mediocre?
>>150517068>>150518019>>150518113My "pilot" only got 5k views and I'm very happy with that. It's higher than my subscriber count
>>150522890The reason users here fight the anti-landlord crowd is because that crowd are using landlords as a surrogate for anyone who's more talented and intelligent than them that they want to get revenge on.As someone who has been financially crippled by an abusive family my whole life and has actually been threatened by cops, you are never going to see me advocating for landlords or police, but I genuinely believe their adversaries in the American genpop would be a lot more dangerous and destructive if armed and allowed to get their way. Leftists talk all day about love and socialism and equal treatment and then turn around and call you a freak because they actually just want to destroy what they see as a threat to their species. You'll notice that the American left and right never actually support anyone talented or exceptional because the whole reason they (read: singular demographic) even come together like this is to maintain a position against us. Trump will happily snip autistic people and the left will happily toss artists and game devs into concentration camps the second they get what they're after.
>>150523463post it
>>150522982There were multiple threads the first few days then most people here moved on.
>>150516373Pretty sure that was in jest.
>>150523589Except landlords aren't more talented or intelligent, they were just old enough to buy homes before the housing market went tits up across the entire world.
>>150523894You didn't read my post. I agree with you.
>>150519361You better deliver!
>>150519361D'you think you can animate Olivia getting hypnotized instead?
>>150523589>landlords>more talented and intelligentwut>Leftists talk all daypssst - leftists aren't a single person. As it turns out, just like any other group of people, individuals have individualized views and act in different ways despite what culture war pundits try to have you believe. All leftists don't believe the same things just as all anons don't believe the same thing. >their speciesI think dehumanizing any group of people like this is not a bad idea. I've seen the term "vermin" tossed around as well, and that type of rhetoric has historically lead down a very dark path. Don't fall for the manipulation, anon. >the left will happily toss artists and game devs into concentration camps the second they get what they're afterwhat the fuck are you talking about?
>>150524087You didn't read my post.
>>150524087>I think dehumanizing any group of people like this is not a bad ideafuck, I meant to say "I think dehumanizing any group of people like this IS a bad idea. I had initially written "not good", but changed it and fucked it up.
>>150524087reddit spacing
>>150524106I did. It's a lot of word salad.
>>150524125Then move on.
>>150524113Spaces make independent thoughts easier to parse. It has nothing to do with social media and everything to do with organization.
>>150524113It's been years, let this newfag meme die already
Honestly if Pan had a co-writer/editor to tighten up the world-building and script, some more artist to clean up the designs, and more different voices I think Loki IRL would've gotten more views. I like what we got and I know Pan did most of it himself which is impressive by itself, but I think learning to work with a team can help elevate his work if he wants to continue making Loki IRL a show
>>150524969>Honestly if Pan had a co-writer/editor to tighten up the world-building and script, some more artist to clean up the designs, and more different voices I think Loki IRL would've gotten more viewsHe did. The catch?
>makes rotoscoping the soulless technique putting "real" artists out of business>name your main character BakshiI don't understand why you would base your setting on the animation industry yet fundamentally not understand how it works
>>150517450Some fag whose claim to fame is being Keemstar for storytime animators
>>150520388>Pan hates white guysHe's as white as driven snow>Pan has intentionally thrown shade at Homestuck for no fucking reason and tried to write it off as facetious when he obviously just hates HussieThat's supposed to be a negative? Hussie is a massive fag in his own right
>>150525286Pan is Hispanic, not white
>>150525286>>150525073>Black eyes>WhiteNever ever, ever. Never trust black eyes with anything no matter how pale their skin LOOKS.You talk like an even more hyperactive and immature Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg, Pan.Go review these shows to learn from them and shut the fuck up:Hero InsideZenshuDi-Gata DefendersMegaman Battle NetworkHuntikDigimonBen 10Son of ZornCool WorldEvery time Loki IRL comes up give Pan these shows, yes even Son of Zorn which is at best a 5/10 sitcom show.
>>150519261>she actually said she met a kid who reminded her of the kind of boy she would have a crush for at his age>gets cancelled for thisthis coming from the waifu boardgo fuck yourself
>>150516373oof...
>>150523463Rookie numbers, post it.
I like Pan's gruff cringe voice but hated it being Loki'sHe shouldn't have voiced anyone besides background charactersAlso he did the shitty trope of "interrupt the hype moment" twiceGlad he took too long doing thisI rooted for him but his dumbass entered the race way too late when Pilots have high quality nowFelt like a long NG cartoonIsn't bad but hes way too fucking late
>>150523463Post it nigger>b-but they will make fun of meeeeeeeeYou haven't made shit then.
>>150517732Hey, your life's passion project being the THIRD best INDIE cartoon in the month isn't so bad...
>>150525672>gets cancelled for thisJulia Vickerman didn't get cancelled for her weird social media posts. She got cancelled because she'd regularly get drunk at after work events and then sexually harass her coworkers. This happened with several people so she ended up getting the boot. The social media posts only came to light after that which nailed the coffin shut. hard to say if she even has a job these days. She married the voice of Greg Universe who is like 20 years older than her. She takes care of foster dogs, and on rare occasions she directs a music video. Seems like that's about it. I think she might be on her husbands podcast too?
>>150523463was that the one with the cowboy with gigantic hands?
