augustus about to callout mike's homoerotic interest in james edition
>A doodle poking fun at the current reception of the chapter “Line in the Sand” from the webcomic Bittersweet Candy Bowl
>>150526186>It's my character's fault when i assassinate and railroad themThis was cool and funny the last 372 times she did this as well.
>>150526130Wow Mike just didn't say "how is goin outside haunting a person". And I just know Augustus is going to drop some mic after a crappy "hit to the heart" or whatever. Or maybe he'll call Mike gay who knows?Also with that drawanon doing that great work the last few threads, I'm trying a something bit different that what I have been doing.
>>150526130Augustus saying what any sane person felt, holy shit is the Mike pity party exhausting
>>150526130>You have lot to atone for, your martyr act is getting old, just do as you're told>Lucy is just standing thereThis is ridiculous, this is Taeshi using Augustus as the voice of her cult that won't take less than Mike's death as enough of an apology for daring to stand up to Lucy. It's ragebait, this fucking comic is ragebait for some readers and suffering porn for the others
>>150526186>I don't want my readers to hate Mike! They don't understand the NUANCE!>Time to make my ironic jokes to an audience that takes everything literally and are biased against him~
>>150526130>Your haunting herNigga his mere existence 'haunts' the dumb broad. Might as well tell him to kill himself and even that won't solve the bitch's hangup.>I TOLD you to GO BACK INSIDEFuckssake just beat the shit out of Seph cat already. This is ridiculous
>>150526258A real shame that Mike can't simply move on. It's not as if Lucy deserves any active contribution on his part.
>>150526154Mike and Lucy arch is so dead bro, Eternal Flame was 5 years ago and that just got things to default back to pre-suicide post-december Lucybitch should have had a rebound arch with Augustus, its amazing how dead this arch iseven the enablers are bitching about it for her to respond
>>150526304I dunno, at this point I think Taeshi may have backtracked and really does want everyone to hate Mike.
Lucy ruined this comic
>>150526130>You have a lot to atone forFor what? People are acting like he raped Lucy and burned her house down.>Lucy, of course, doesn't say anythingEvil bitch. Mike was 200% right. She's a parasite and poison.
>>150526186Taeshi is one of the reasons I don't do self-depreciating commentary on my own things anymore.Yeah Taeshi, so why didn't you have him realize that and stay with the track team? I'd rather all of these pages have been devoted to him nervously trying to make friends with them than this bullshit because at least then one of your fucking protagonists is trying to grow and change for the better.
>>150526394In fairness they're the ones who started shit with him. At this point its Team Lucy making ludicrous demands of him and when he doesn't play ball they air the dirty laundry that Lucy "totally" doesn't want talked about.
>>150526375>Might as well tell him to kill himself Imagine if Mike finally came to that same conclusion and pulled a Lucy. Augustus really would have become Mike 2.0, though he probably would only care about how Lucy hates him now despite standing by and passively enabling that same outcome.
>>150526130>atoneSo when is your queen there gonna atone for stressing her family and friends out because she tried to kill herself over one dude calling her meanie words?You know, the one you once called pathetic over the same shit?
>>150526419It's not a matter of Felix route being better. Its a matter of those fags acting like he was banned from going outside because little miss psycho was having nightmares. It wasn't even a reasonable ask like "hey bro, I know this is weird but could you stay inside for today? Lucy's been all fucked up lately and I am not sure if its related to you. Trying to figure things out and y'know how she is." It was "I don't give a fuck about whatever your problems are. I am telling you to stay inside, deal with it." Mike had zero incentive to comply outside of misconceived guilt. The right move if he tried to pull the Lucy card in front of his buds was to just say "You're a literal rapist."
>>150526475Everything is ok when she does it>Name calling >Verbal, physical and sexual abuse>Using people for her convenience >Misogyny >Rape attempt Nothing of that matters because she didn't want it
>>150526272>Lucy is just standing thereAt least she is now irrevocably complicit in whatever happens next.
>>150526130It's a shame the "Line in the Sand" will probably be some big declaration for Lucy and Augustus side. It should just be Mike slugging him at this point after that third panel.
>>150526419Self-depricating humor and commentary is often a way of dissuading criticism anyway.
>>150526525Less about him complying, more about James being reduced to a speed whore for David's obnoxious ass and thus not worth it. Staying inside was right solely because the track team would've made far better company, and Aug would've got his just desserts because Lucy's batshit ass would just flip out over something else anyways. Hell, the bitch would've probably flipped out just because she didn't see Mike out there and was expecting him(even though she supposedly doesn't want to see him).
>>150526154I'm glad she cleared up that she actually thinks Gus is in the right here, it makes dropping this shitshow a lot easier.>Hey bro your mere presence within a 300 yard radius of Lucy triggers her so you're not allowed to be outside at lunch anymore. I know you're in the same class and I could maybe talk to her parents about maybe changing that if I was serious about this being a real problem, but instead I'll just make a huge scene about it and cause additional stress for the person I'm ostensibly trying to protect.>>150526130>atoning is when you do whatever retarded thing Gus asks forMan fuck this shit.
>>150526585It should be Mike deciding that he'll always be the villain no matter what and leaning into it, much to Augustus' immediate and then ongoing regret.
>>150526551>Rapes you"I never wantted it, kid..."
I could 100% see Lucy being that girl found dead in D4vd’s car trunk
>>150526646Villain Mike would be fun so of course we'll never get it.
>>150526598I half imagine that Augustus would just escalate anyway and try to get Mike expelled.
>>150526525I mean, Mike was fucked the moment Augustus demanded him to stay inside because even if he agreed and complied it sets a precedent that he can be pushed further. Stop sharing classes, you're ruining her focus on school by being present, it's not asking much. Stop taking the normal road back home, she feels insecure knowing you could be stalking her, it's not much to ask you to walk a longer road, you owe her. Change schools already, you can make new friends anywhere else, I don't care, just stop torturing Lucy with your presence.His plan was just to become the screaming skull the moment Mike refused to obey, so be it James or the whole class or his family Mike was going to lose someone's respectAnd this is without bringing up Lucy jumping >>150526154>Did I fucking throw her off the roof?
>>150526130Every time they bring up the Daisy Augustus shit it always feels like it's a range from him just being creepy to full on assaulting her which makes it really jarring when they make jokes about it. Did he actually like, do anything or is it overblown? I've tried rereading from the beginning a couple times but fuck it's dated.
>>150526685>Mike had to break his word like a weasel because le slippery slope
>>150526130>rapist guy is suddenly the voice of all moralsI hate this shit so much. All he has to do is bring it up and Augustus' argument loses all meaning
>>150526685and of course Lucy would do nothing and have the gall to say "I never wanted you to suffer" like she did in EF. I don't know how anyone can support them as a ship after all this.
Remember Suitcase this is what she thinks of you She won't be satisfied until you're dead for having the audacity to date another woman Get out while you can dude
>>150526685Yeah probably. Much as Mike could make better choices here, Taeshi would only give them negative outcomes.This bitch needs to hire a damn ghost writer with half a brain.
>>150526130>Augustus stop>Actually no don't stop, I'm just larping like I object>who knows who I'm fooling, Mike or myself?Lucy's such a... nothing. Is there anything going on behind those eyes except an endless loop of craving and resentment of everyone around her for her life not being perfect? The one time she's left alone to make a decision about her life she throws herself off a roof instead.>>150526686He egged her on to try to get Mike to pick her over Sandy so that when Mike inevitably rejected her he could swoop in on her while she's still crying. He's a creep.
>>150526685Dropping out of their shared martial arts class would have definitely been next.
>>150526650I mean, the first thing Lucy did after breaking down because Augustus didn't let her rape him was blame it on Mike, so you're not far off
>>150526717In another comic this would be peak irony on purpose and get brought up later to underline that point.
>>150526722Dubs of truth.
>>150526598It's probably just bait for a new BCI really.
>>150526758augustus wouldnt have done the rape hes a good boy didnu nuffin goes to church
>>150526718>I don't know how anyone can support them as a ship after all thisIt should only happen if Lucy starts getting haunted by feelings of regret and guilt instead. Staying up on her high horse and demanding yet more from Mike would keep her irredeemably selfish and deserving to remain all alone once Augustus takes off for college.
>>150526686Augustus buttered Daisy up and manipulated her into pursuing Mike aggressively so he'd reject her. Once that happened he found her crying and dejected, cornered her against a tree and started villain monologuing to her about what an attention loving slut she is and tried to force a kiss on her, but was stopped by Abbey
>>150526731>The one time she's left alone to make a decision about her life she throws herself off a roof insteadI give classic Lucy credit where it's due: She did eventually choose, on her own, after a lot of self-inflicted suffering, to woman up and make a selfless choice, even if she botched the execution.
>>150526717No it's okay that he's a rapist because he's under strict orders from Lucy to stay away from Daisy. He's already paying his dues you're not allowed to use it against him anymore.
>>150526686He was holding her as he was about to kiss her, with Daisy being mentally in her lowest. It's kinda like Lucy's suicide where they kinda joke about it too. Idk I just see them as the cast being assholes as usual, just teenager things.
>>150526779I don't think that'd be good enough at this point. The optimal endgame for them is to "make up" but Mike completely refusing to pursue her in any sense. Bitch is toxic
>>150526712>Augustus wrenched a retarded concession out of Mike by hitting him with the Lucy Guilt bat while he was doing nothing but minding his own business>since he went back on it he deserves to have his social life destroyedArguing about this shit isn't even fun anymore. Before this chapter is over Mike will explode and, by Taeshi fiat, do something fucking stupid and makes things worse for himself. And then we'll get another scene about how his home life is fucked up or whatever and he'll spiral some more, and no matter how miserable and suicidal he ends up, the prevailing sentiment will always be that he deserves it.This shit is fucking tiresome.
>>150526817He's not even staying away. He was right there with her during Witch Hunt and then later at the burgertron. The only difference is he's chaperoned by Lucy.
>>150526738I'm betting after Mike disappears from the school and also her karate classes Lucy will flip on Augustus for chasing him off and possibly killing him, because she didn't want that to happen (but didn't do shit to stop it because she didn't want to get involved either). That would paint St. Lucy as compassionate and caring which would be masturbatory and thus possible
>>150526823Yeah, the feelings would only be a starting point, frankly. Lucy would have to put some major work into repairing the damage done by her own willing negligence.
>>150526830You're trying to argue good sense to the thread's resident hissyfit-throwing retard who never debates in good faith.
>>150526856Lucy's fans would absolutely ignore her obvious complicity, you're right. Taeshi would too, given enough time, or at least pretend it doesn't count until a decade later it suddenly does (but only a little and mentioned offhand).
>>150526856>I'm betting after Mike disappears from the school and also her karate classesI can see it being just 1:1 copy of what happened to Lucy after meme jump. After all there's not a single original thought in Tae's head
>>150526130Lucy should be atoning for her wrongs since she abused Mike since he was like 4.
>>150526830Mike being asked to not go outside for the benefit of a girl he claimed to care about "more than anything" isn't Mike getting wrenched into anything, if the roles were reversed you people would be losing your minds about how Lucy's breaking her word just to torture Mike>Mike gets asked to just stop haunting Lucy >Outright admits he doesn't want to >Still innocent btw
>>150526856>she didn't want that to happenso... she never fucking wanted it?
>>150526130>You have a lot to atone forI guess Gus fully atoned for being a molester when he scraped Lucy off the sidewalk
>>150526823>Mike and Lucy settle things>Cue graduation. They amicably part ways in a non hostile manner. Slight friendly but a far cry of how things once were>Time skip to college years>They run into each other by chance, both are doing better and Lucy is starting to get her shit together>Awkward but relatively friendly greeting and catch up>A black cat girl walks in greeting Mike with a hug. It's his new girlfriend>Awkward look from Lucy who tries to play it off.>Amicable parting as Mike walks off holding his GFs hand. >Held shot of Lucy waving goodbye and looking a bit remorseful before shaking her head and also walking away>It truly was a Bittersweet Candy Bowl
It's annoying how in the early volumes, you watch Mike become increasingly resentful of Lucy's dependence on him and how everyone pressured him into being the one responsible for her. And the direction the comic decides to take after that, is to just continue to place all responsibility for Lucy's mental health on Mike. Despite Taeshi knowing full well that Lucy's dependence was bad and took a toll on Mike.Other anons mention Gus not talking to Lucy's family about her issues and it's a good example of the writing degrading because like, at this point, there's a good chance that Taeshi doesn't think there's any reason for Gus to do that. Like Lucy's mental state is entirely in Mike's hands and everyone else is helpless to do anything but stand by hoping he doesn't make her sad again.
>>150526979I think it would also be retarded if Mike demanded Lucy not be outside at school because that was his space
The only way I see Augustus not being character assassinated is if after Mike is nuked out of existence he turns to Lucy and admits it was all bullshit but now maybe she'll stop being insane for a while>>150527003Do we have to teach you again old man?
>>150527019It really makes me wonder how Lucy would act if there was a reversal and Mike was the one to fuck off for months like she did. Things were looking up for Mike when Lucy was gone. Would it be the same or would she have even more of a sperg fit in his absence?
>>150526890I don't think that Taeshi could stand to let Mike simply vanish for that long. At least when it came to Lucy, she had associated far too strongly with her own creation and suffered a nervous breakdown. It made all the sense in the world that Taeshi wanted an extended break from Lucy and focused on Paulo instead, her beloved asshole. But Mike? Oh, she could keep on tormenting him forever. Just look a the way she's treating the situation at hand. Even if Taeshi ultimately knows Augustus is in the wrong, she absolutely delights in what is happening. Sending Mike away would be like a heroin addict confidently declaring they will go cold turkey.
>>150526979>Mike gets asked to just stop haunting Lucy>Outright admits he doesn't want toThat's so bad faith it's actually impressive. I wonder which discord retard you are.
>>150527008And all the while treating it like a tiresome chore.
>>150526773>All character development and breaks from the cycle are only allowed in non-canon spin offs.>Because if any of these fuckers made a new choice, the cycle and thus comic would end because Taeshi can't write anything new.Yay...
>>150527019Even a retard could make Gus' actions make sense but they'd have to treat them like missteps.>doesn't talk to the family because he know Lucy would see that as a betrayal of her trust and lock him out>can't fix anything on his own because Lucy's a stubborn bitch>tries to push Mike around instead for a lack of better options
>>150527019Abbey and Mike are the only dindus in the group, rest are either bullies or manipulative scum
>>150527072>Would it be the same or would she have even more of a sperg fit in his absence?It would depend entirely on whether or not she managed to stupidly shove Augustus away in the meantime.
>>150526979She's in the same class as him discord dyke Should he just not come to school anymoreActually that would probably be the best for all of them come to think of it
>>150527072She would like to herself that nothing changed because she doesn't care, but her constant rotten personality and need to be a victim would get the best of her, after Augustus fucked off she would try to go for option 2 and wreck Paulo's relationship but not start one with him because she needs to be chased, not the other way around. When Paulo has enough of her (for 5 mins before he forgets) she can be yelled at and relax that her oppression keeps her from having to work on herself. Then one day she hears her mom talking on the phone with Mike's, and discovers where he moved to. Good bye Roseville, I never wanted you, time to move again
All the patreon comics are talking about how Mike is unreasonable and selfish, and it proves he isn't sorry about what happened to Lucy if he's not willing to do whatever Augustus commands him to do on her behalf
>>150527239I meant comments not comics kek
>>150527183>Should he also do this thing no one asked him to do? Should he just die then :(((It's funny how you loop back to the slippery slope because you realize how small of a concession Mike hanging out with one of his ten other friends for lunch is, so you need to make it seem worse than it is to justify your crybaby viewpoint on how maliciously targeted your self-insert is.
>>150526130So Mike finally stands up for himself and we all know he gets punished for it harder than ever before. Okay, then what exactly is the lesson here for dear gray cat? Because this sure looks like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
>>150527239Barring based leakers the only people delusional enough to pay for this shit are people who self insert as or waifu Lucy.
>>150527239Woah what a big surprise, retards having retarded opinions.
>>150527252No you were right the first time, no matter how much Tae insists it's not trueMike is her chew toy and she takes all the bitter, hateful venom in her heart out on him, which I suppose is a healthier coping mechanism than taking it out on other people, but from what the comics about her personal life show she does that anyway
>>150527206I wonder if Taeshi would ever get bored of letting Lucy escape every consequence of her own horrible choices.
lucy really needs to get called out on her non-existent grudges
>>150527261"I'm an abuser but you were mean which is WORSE"
>>150526256Augustus next chapter: "You're existing without Lucy's permission!"If Mike wants to date males he's got eight options.Nice drawing.>>150526272We have to hear it from her mouth cause her sarcasm isn't an honest indication of how she feels about Mike. She has to say she hates Mike and wants him to suffer, outside of the story and jokes.>>150526551Mike needs to atone for standing up to his abuser, that's a no-no.>>150526794Augustus did apologize for molesting Daisy, he probably thought that was enough. But he's also staying out of her line of sight and thinks Mike needs to do the same for Screw Loosy.>>150526817Ha, Augustus thinks he's keeping Mike in line. As if Mike will rape Lucy when Augustus isn't looking. Raping her by looking in her direction, cause Augustus logic dictates that being in Lucy's view is abusive.
>>150527306>Lucy demonizes everyone else around herImagine if this ever got outted and became an actual plotpoint instead of rattling around in Lucy's skull, forever poisoning her outlook but remaining unfixable because she will never be honest with herself nor those around her.
>>150527328>Nice drawingBtw, have you been focusing on your facework as previously discussed?
>>150527206Lucy's personal hell would be every person she tries to attach to suddenly disappearing. Mike, then Paulo, then likely Augustus and so on...Her being left only with herself.
>>150527335I think everyone other than Mike will only see fault in how they treat him after he kills himself, and then spend the rest of their lives in grief and pain cause they didn't recognize their treatment of him.
>>150527344Kind of, haven't made much progress. I haven't drawn recently, adopted a new schedule that keeps me from drawing as often but I hope to get back to it.
>>150527311Okay, so how is that anything new, though? Mike was already beating himself up over Lucy and seems to have totally forgotten how awful she was.
>>150527239Yeah I genuinely can't read it anymore. Mike has been hanging out with other people and minding his own business and clumsily working through his feelings about James and inching closer and closer to just dumping Sandy and worrying about himself instead of doing stupid shit he thinks he's obligated to do for other people, which is literally the healthiest thing he could have been doing. Then Augustus gets a vibe that he's bothering Lucy and fucks it up, and all the discourse about the comic returns to how Mike hasn't done enough to "fix" things.
>>150527364I strongly encourage you to keep at it, even if you only spend a few minutes out of each day actively practicing said facework.
>>150527347Why do you think she came back to Roseville when supposedly she can't stand anyone in it? She can't leech off people with no previous attachment to her
I wonder if the divorce arc on the horizon for Mike's family will make it so Mike is also going to be forced to move a way, and then he'll try to kill himself just like Lucy did in the same situation, because pottery
>>150527377Mike should seriously just give up. Daisy said he tends to flip like a switch instead of finding a happy medium. That happy medium is going up in smoke right in front of his eyes and will leave him metaphorically bleeding out. So how he just goes right ahead, flips that switch, and descends into I-don't-give-a-fuck-anymore mode?
>>150527420Maybe Alejandro will find his ketchup splattered body in the snow so we can have another rapist redemption arc
>>150527420I'm sure that Taeshi would rather keep Mike in a suicidal state of mind for the next half-decade but never let him actually do the deed. So expect his suffering to keep intensifying.
>>150527437>Mike and Alejandro of all fucking people get trauma bonded.That would be the funniest fucking shit.
Don't read this comic Bad for the soul
>>150527420Mike seems the kind of person that would consider suicide but then think about how much pain it would cause his family and abstain, unlike Lucy who hated everyone on her Ivory tower so didn't care if everyone mourned her
>>150527493She still doesn't seem to care in the slightest about how that must have fucked her mother up
>>150527437>you'll always have me, green eyes
>>150527507>Mike becoming Alejandro's twink bf.Dare we go down this dark path?
>>150527437Taeshi can't write anyway so let's get real stupid with this:>Alejandro finds half-dead Mike and takes him back home>idea is to torture "green eyes" once he's stable>maybe use him to lure in "white bitch" for double revenge>fobs him off on dog minion>Mike wakes up with amnesia>okay fuck it new plan with a new minion>Augustus replaced Mike and now Mike has replaced Augustus>Mike shows back up at school months later but now he's indoctrinated and eeeeeeeevillllllll!!!>actively makes everyone's lives a living hell
>>150527538That reminds me of Taeshi's magical girl lucy comic from when she was 12
>>150527493To be fair, at that time, Lucy didn't think that anyone would mourn her. And to keep being fair, after her return she hated them for proving her wrong.
>>150527551Which would've probably ended up superior to modern BCB.
>>150527391Of course.>>150527377You are supposed to feel the pain that the characters go through, if it works then the writing is good.>>150527418Either for her family and Augustus or cause she wants to get her friend's attention without hanging out with them, or show them how better of she is without them.>>150527420I'm not a psychologist but I'm sure a traumatic stressor would be required to push suicidal thoughts, a point of no return like how Lucy thought she'd never be loved again by Mike or anyone else after moving. Something would be required to push Mike to a mental point of no return.>>150527486Funny, it uplifts my soul.>>150527493It's hard to empathize with what others can think of you since one's own pain is the only pain one can physically feel, I imagine it's easier to prioritize your own without considering others. Lucy might've wanted to relieve her own pain so much that she didn't consider anything else, and maybe Mike will abstain but if it gets to a level of isolation or lack of purpose where he thinks nobody could possibly care about him, he'll go through with suicide.
>>150527594>Push Mike past the point of no return It's gotta be Sandy dumping him at his lowest point
>>150527594>You are supposed to feel the pain that the characters go through, if it works then the writing is good.I don't. I just feel frustrated. Doubly so knowing that Taeshi apparently thinks Augustus is doing the right thing here.
>>150527606He already barely gives a fuck about Sandy. If anything he seems more likely to dump her at this rate
>>150527502She cares in the sense it makes her seethe that her family is worried about her, how dare they
>>150527606I don't think that would satisfy Taeshi. If this comic really is reflective of her personal hangups, then Mike has to be the one to dump Sandy and later choose Lucy.
>>150527556Yeah, and there's no reason Mike won't be positioned to think the same.>>150527614I'd like to hear her say that, if it happens to be true. I don't know what the arbitrary threshhold is where suffering for the story transitions into frustrating readers, if I were in Veronica's place I'd just say "Um, trust take it. Try to take it.".>>150527606Yep, that'll do it. That and a divorce and a move. Then have an asteroid strike Sandy's house for good measure. Or actually Sandy dying in a car accident would work too.
>>150527482Maybe he and Lucy can sic their pet rapists on each other, pokemon-style.
>>150527636I wonder if Lucy was born temperamental or got it from her parents. Like which of her sweet parents was a violent abuser in youth? Maybe mommy.
>>150527663>Yeah, and there's no reason Mike won't be positioned to think the sameAs of right now, that's not true. Mike knows that his mom values him and Chris seems enthralled with him too.
>>150527437>Alejandro brings Mike into the gang because he recognizes the damage spawned of bitches>Mike ends up actually getting along better with the mooks than his actual friend group now that they have common groundWould be fucking hilarious
>>150527665>Alejandro uses Shove>It's super effective!
>>150527594No mister namefag, this comic hurting making it good is the same as lights being good because they burn your eyes
>>150527676I think Lucy just huffed a lot of copium during her time away and built up even more dysfunctional walls than before.
>>150527679For now yeah. Chris loves him, Ellen mostly sees him as a sufficiently obedient child slash school student. Haley would resent him for Ellen's favoritism.I'm mixed about the parents, few are authoritative and authoritarian, but many are permissive and negligent, or inattentive.
>>150527707Even Haley ultimately values Mike even though she has shown it exactly twice, and one of those happened in an AU chapter.
>>150527663>I'd like to hear her say that, if it happens to be true.See >>150526154
>>150527606We're already past that point. Mike seems to have become disillusioned with Sandy after the eternal flame stuff given his visual reactions to her talking on the phone now. At this point if she dumped him again he'd just be like "yeah figures."
>>150527676It's probably the inbreeding, all three siblings are damaged in their own way
>>150527750At this rate, he'll only be going on their Valentine's Day date to humor her.
>>150527685>Mike becomes an angry incel but somehow Taeshi has still talked herself into thinking he can become Lucy's perfect lifemate
>>150527685I did have this idea where in an alternate universe, specifically Play Date, that Mike and Haley join Alejandro's gang. But unlike Augustus, Mike is more defensive and resistant of Alejandro, turning them into equal frenemies instead of the domineering-submissive one.Mike being bullied enough to defect from his friends and turn villain, that's terrifying.>>150527699On the plus side all the suffering will pay off with a slice-of-life resolution at the end.>>150527701We do know exposure to creepy boys since youth was a huge incentive for becoming abusive. That and her parent's utter lack of discipline towards her.>>150527718Haley is perfect. She playfully teases him to a humorous degree without putting down or invalidating him. Lucy could learn from her.>>150527772Imagine that as a plot twist. Maybe the future cast will just be Mike's and Haley's kids, and Lucy's kids with Jordan and Sam going through high school tantrums.>>150527747Oh, yeah I think she's branding Mike as non-serious.>>150527789>>150527750That's sad. Him being so burnt out that he goes "Yep, I saw this coming" and Sandy is shocked that he's not shocked.
>>150527853>Mike's finally burnt-out thanks to all the bullshit>Valentine's Day date coming up>oh be still his beating heart>Daisy finds out and pushes to make it a double date for completely innocent reasons>obviously a mistake but Paulo is sweet-talked into it and Mike kind of wants to see what will happen>gray cat passively watches as the evening implodes around him>Sandy throws a bitchfit and lays into him for not white-knighting her>Mike's reaction is pic related
>>150526154Oh, so Taeshi DOES think it's unreasonable to note that Augustus's "strategy" here is to talk a bunch of shit neither Mike NOR LUCY should want revisited?I don't fucking get it. How does she twist people quite correctly noting that Augustus going scorched earth hurts Lucy too into a smug joke? Not to mention that joking about medical law is weird in itself.
>>150528028Yeah it's weird, the problem isn't him sharing her medical history it's him airing out her personal trauma to a stranger (and anyone else within earshot)
>>150528012I do see Daisy pushing for it, to show herself that she's over her and also shove in her face that she's dating Paulo like Sandy would care, only for her grass-is-greener mindset to betray her
>>150528052I wonder if Daisy will let loose that she made out with Mike during the double date, causing both Sandy and Paulo to lose their shit.
>>150526130Imagine the plot twist if Augustus just turns out to be a virulent homophobe.
>>150528028I suppose that Taeshi could see this as Augustus forcing a confrontation that needs to happen because both Mike and Lucy would rather avoid this forever.Or perhaps she's been driven to frothing madness by the need to watch Mike get absolutely destroyed.
>>150528089>...Oh. I see. So you're a fucking faggot then.
>>150528089Only to find out that Daisy is bisexual.
>>150528089Imagine? It's early 00s, everyone is like that
>>150528083>Mike's already pouring himself a glass of wine despite knowing full well he can't handle his liquor
>>150528116Nah, back then everyone hated gays but thought dykes were hot.
>>150528083Would be funny. Just go full avalanche on it and Mike just being like "what the fuck ever I don't care anymore lol"
>>150528083>In character for Daisy to say that shit just to one up Sandy.>Taeshi would feel the need to punish Mike for that as well.>Mike torture in general.>Another chance to show his obsession with Sandy was a mistake.>Cuts Mike off from Paulo who now hates him.Yep, it checks the boxes.
>>150526130>James: "But what does Mike being outside have to do with Lucy?"Now imagine Augustus trying to explain.
>>150528210That would require James to have a brain.
>>150528210James is currently being affected by Lucy space, so any thoughts of sympathy towards Mike will be terminated before they can manifest
>>150528210It's why he won't. The second anyone actually tries to explain themselves here it makes Lucy look fucking insane.
All bullshit by the way
>>150528260This was when James wanted to fuck him. He has a new crush now so he no longer gives a shit
>>150528233Imagine Augustus responding like our resident discord tourist >Well James you see, I told him to stay inside so she wouldn't have to see him, because seeing him makes her upset, or so I believe, and he said yes, and then went back on his word! He didn't comply! Can you believe it? Now I don't know about you but that's abuse and rape so can you see why?
>>150528210I think the whole "stop haunting her" line was supposed to take care of that question.
>>150528260This is why Taeshi forced Mike to mald instead of explaining that Lucy had been his abuser. Something he is apparently no longer allowed to consider.
>>150528282Imagine even bothering to care what they think at all.
>>150528323Despite the pattern drones whining that Mike isn't sorry enough, he does actually feel extremely guilty about what happened between them. Definitely too guilty to call her an abuser to her face or defend his side of the story in any way.
>>150527750I dunno, I still think Mike fell out of love with Sandy BEFORE Eternal Flame. See pic related.I think the only reason Mike is so attached to "staying with Sandy" is down to A: sunk cost - a sense that breaking up would prove him wrong or something. And B: cowardice - he can't bring himself to be the "bad guy" by breaking up and telling someone who wants him that he no longer wants them again. Both would make sense given his past experience with Lucy and the role Sandy played in it.
>>150527019So Lucy is a parasite? Cause what you described is a parasite.
>>150528382That's exactly how I see it. Before this Augustus shit I think he was inches from breaking up with Sandy; all he needed was for Daisy or Paulo to hear him out and explicitly reassure him that breaking up with her because he's unhappy wouldn't make him a bad person. Too bad he doesn't have an emotional support animal like Lucy does.
>>150528382Mike did tell Augustus that he was afraid to repeat the same mistake he did with Lucy by leaving her on her own, which considering how Augustus is using that info to push him into a corner was not a very good idea
>>150528356It's so fucking annoying to see him get railroaded this way. There is no way to win, all routes lead to more suffering. Grow a spine? Sorry, he's a sperg now. Go back to his old kind self? Paralyzing levels of guilt. Branch out, find new friends and love interests? Lol HE THOUGHT amirite fellow gamers? Just let him die already.
>>150528520You know if he tried what Lucy did and jumped even from a shorter height he would end up with actual scars and a limp that would prevent him from ever running again, because there is no rest for the wicked
>>150528046I mean, same difference. Medical history and personal trauma refer to the same information, just in different contexts - anything major enough to be one counts as the other too. A suicide attempt is a personal trauma with friends & family, and a medical history with doctors & the law.But either way, just letting someone tell all in front of strangers in the hopes of guilt-tripping someone on your behalf is bizarre; it'd be like letting someone share nudes or something equivalently personal. All in the name of guilt-tripping someone who already feels guilty. I legitimately don't understand why Lucy is allowing it rather than yelling at Augustus, issuing threats and ultimatums to back the fuck down and shut the fuck up.
>>150528486This looks more like Augustus ignoring that in favor of demonizing Mike over December.
>>150528382
So this comic is in hell, right? Michael is either in a Coma and close to hell, or he succeeded in killing himself, and this is his own hell?
>>150528573Because even if she wouldn’t admit it she’s getting a vicarious thrill out of Augustus verbally beating down Mike for all the ways he’s wronged her, all with a free pass for plausible deniability that she “never fucking wanted it” afterwards
>>150528578Oh, what I mean is that because of that Augustus now KNOWS the kind of person Mike actually is, that he would feel guilty about Lucy and about Sandy at the same time and his desicion was not with the intention of harming Lucy like he thought, but that also means he won't fight back at all, if he defends himself he'll be going against Lucy and if he doesn't he's already doomed to stay with Sandy. He can shit on Mike with false claims and bad faith arguments because he won't defend himself out of guilt. It's the same as pushing Abbey's buttons and dropping the line about his father when things got too heated up, he's betting on them being better people
I don't know anything about this comic aside from the art is cute and everyone in this thread seems miserable because they read it.
>>150528716Yeah that was me about three years ago. Get out while you can.
>>150528716The art is shit. Absolute downgrade if you compare it to the watercolor era
>>150527691I used to feel bad for Augustus up until now
>>150528573>I legitimately don't understand why Lucy is allowing it rather than yelling at Augustus, issuing threats and ultimatums to back the fuck down and shut the fuck up.The meta reason? To force the plot. Lucy is perhaps the most malleable of all characters when it comes to that purpose. In-character? Lucy is far more spiteful than she allows herself to believe and Augustus is reminding her of all the reasons she "should" want to stand there and let Mike be punished. Anyway, she can punish Augustus for it later.>>150528656Alright, that makes sense to me. I half wonder if Taeshi even thought it through that far, but my other half doesn't really care. It's so tiresome to limit this comic by its own creator because she's such an unsatisfying creature. Far more interesting is to speculate along the lines of what these characters SHOULD be doing or feeling. So yeah, I could absolutely see Augustus using that knowledge against Mike, allowing for the sudden return to his old ways out of nowhere.
If you could add one character to this webcomic, what would they be like? I'd add a college aged cousin of Mike's visiting for a week who notices he's feeling glum and takes him into the city for a night on the town to cheer him up, ending with Mike venting all his issues and his cousin lending a sympathetic ear and offering him comforting advice. Of course, Alejandro's minion was also eavesdropping on their conversation and has now learnt that (1) Lucy is back in Roseville (2) Augustus is staying with her. This gets the Alejandro plotline moving and lets Mike catch a fucking break with someone who is unshakably in his corner while still letting Taeshi and the patrons villainize Mike for the crime of just trying to be somewhat happy.
>>150529033I found him to be an a boring brainwashed eunuch with good PR. It would have been great if he'd thrown off the Lucy yoke and waltzed with Daisy behind her back, so to speak. Would have, past tense. Because now I just want to see karma bite him in the ass, hard. If he'd been a little more interesting beforehand, I'd feel more sympathy over getting railroaded by his creator.
Ahahahah oh my god, she is actually fucking do it. She's gone entirely off the deep end! On one hand I'm deeply amused Taeshi is full mask-off tired of pussy-footing around the comic and really going hard-core into this cringey shit.Absolutely dogshit tier writing, just like I knew she always could!But on the other hand MAN it's exhausting to read and I almost feel bad for the semi-fans that lurk here.Almost.But yeah, good going Taeshi - embrace your BPD-toxicity, bathe in it- indulge your worse impulses. Maybe you will scare away most of your fanbase once and for all.
>>150529083I don't think this comic needs more characters--it needs to work effectively with the ones who already exist. Any new character would just become another plot enabler as-is.
>>150529130She should have pulled this reverse December shit literal years ago, right after Eternal Flame. But I guess Taeshi didn't feel that Mike could be punished hard enough at the time.
Chapter was so fucking boring I did a couple of page edits
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>>150529238>>150529282MY DICK—
>>150529282>>150529458There's more
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>>150529569Ok, this is the last one
>>150526130I'm sorry, man. This is just tiring at this point. I don't think I can read this any more. It's just a schizo taking out her real life issues on a cat. Mike has nothing to atone for. Nobody wants to get Lucy actual help. I really think mike should just leave but only for the idea that once lucy has psyco breaks and freaks out and he isnt around, they've got nobody to blame.>>150526415She wants everyone to hate mike within a certain unknown level but then gets mad when it becomes too much.
>>150529238>>150529282>>150529545>>150529569>>150529593I need to find a way into the timeline where this is the real, main comic.
>>150529130I've never seen anyone this assblasted before.
>>150528626>>150529076That would mean that Lucy places her own privacy and dignity at a lower priority than fucking with Mike and causing problems for her social circle.I'm not saying that's NOT true, but it IS fucking insane.
>>150526130Why is Mike acting like a huge pussy? I dropped this comic in 2019 and this seems weird. He can barely talk
anyone have the bci in thea's profile pic here? i don't think it's in the library of bcbandria
>>150530017>the library of bcbandriaI wonder if it has the piss comics
>>150529545>tensedtense>an lessona lesson>What is wrongWay too formalere u go m8
>>150529800Lucy cannot do introspection nor self actualization and calling any of them a whore won't work
>>150530049Thanks mate
>>150529593Would blow Alejandra's back out/10
>>150529800She's already proven that a couple of times. Remember how she tried to weaponize her suicide attempt against Mike and then Paulo but otherwise danced around the subject?
>>150528382I honestly feel bad for Sandy. She already babied Mike through one crash out, and now he's spiraling AGAIN and she's getting blamed for it because she "cheated" by turning down someone who was more attentive and relatable to her than Mike's text-"ILU<3"-once-a-day ass.
>>150530421You still retarded and treating texting like not trying to communicate or did you not know the late 2000s and early 2010s that texting is primary way teens and young adults talked in the era?
>>150530421"She woulda KILLED us if she knew what he and I were up to, haha!" - t. a girl that rejected the guy and did nothing elseStop trying to force this meme, your waifu is shit
>>150530807>"She woulda KILLED us if she knew what he and I were up to, haha!"Think she lost her virginity to him?
>>150530552I think you dropped your indefinite articles there anon. Or should I say *comrade*?
>>150530807It's not MY fault Sandy is so based while Mike is so cringe. Blame Taeshi.
>>150530947>MewingSandyHeh because she's a cat...
>>150529545>The heart pupilAbsolute, fucking, WOULD!
>>150529545>Mike trying to hold back his pimp hand
>>150531107Little that Lucy knew, Mike has a swift hand
Augustus but he knows why Mike called her a parasite>>150529593>>150529569If Sandy came back and BTFO Lucy this bad I'd hate her ass so much less.
>>150528083That would be hilarious.Even though Daisy kissed Mike before she and Paulo started dating, I can see it messing with Paulo because he'd realize she truly did just settle for him.
>>150531171kek
Is this how girls actually think? That somehow a guy yelling at a girl is the same as pushing her off a building?
>>150531171This is great, love how it reframes Lucy holding onto Gus. Her little claw barely visible on his shoulder in the third to last panel is a nice little sight gag now.
>>150531276Yes. Just like looking at some other girl = cheating
>>150530017Do you pay for the patreon? I can't see this in the discord
>>150531171James sad little face is so much funnier in this context
>>150531276Especially teenage girls yes
>>150531314taeshi posted that screenshot on bluesky
>>150530017>"drove her to suicide"
>>150526130why do some of the animals wear clothes, but others don't
>>150531703stop trying to pretend you're a tourist, fag
Skibidi toilet is unironically more bearable than this shit now
>>150526130I rebooted the page after reinstalling Mike's spine.
>>150531675Mike literally threw her off the roof, I didn't see it because I skipped those chapters but it must be true! Trust women
>>150532061OH MY GOD BASED
>>150528012Ah, the downhill no return scenario.>>150528089Ah, Mike is gay, that's why Augustus hates him.
>>150530017I don't think it is yeah.
>>150532061>BasedMikeNice. What the fuck, James? Also, did Lucy fuck off the second the "fight" started?
>>150532061He's playing punch-out down there, call him Little Mike>>150532290You can see her holding him on the bottom of the page, probably the only reason he's upright
>>150532378>Lucy holding Aug up so Mike can keep wailing on him in revenge for him going after Mike without permission.She would.
>>150526256Definitely something different, but I think it’s neat. Reminds me of that sleep deprived girl character, forgot her name
>>150526130blows my mind they made mike into a full blown fag now. I mean before he was afeminate but now he's bending over some dude he never even liked before. Sounds like a gay plotline because 90% the furries reading this are homos
>>150532839Yet despite being one of the gayest fags ever Taeshi keeps insisting he is straight
>>150532875Where? Seems like she's doing the same thing she did with Paulo and Lucy having sex: coyly allude to it while absolutely refusing to outright confirm for some reason.I mean on bluesky today's page comment was "I know what you are.." a reference to that homophobic dog meme. This being the page where Gus discovers Mike is gay for sex with James.
it would be a good idea for the story to hilight how Lucy could stop this at any time. How Lucy has a habit of wanting people to pay for wronging her but not wanting to have an obvious hand in it because she doesn't want to deal with being held accountable.
>>150532839>Paulo is overemotional, shy and blushing, has huge mood swings, memory problems, willowy hips, and his libido has refocused towards emotional intimacy (and cock)>Mike is depressed, shy and blushing, has huge mood swings, memory problems, incredibly short, and a nonexistent libido - but what little he has is focused towards James>Daisy is overweight, tired and sad a lot of the time, and very worried about getting pregnant (possible irregular menstrual cycle?) - all common symptoms of high estrogen in women/girls>All of them eat at burgertronI think James has been slipping estrogen into the orders and playing subliminals over the speakers, possibly in a plot to acquire more fast twinks.
>>150533108She only might take accountability once Mike attempts to hurt himself.
>>150533108>she doesn't want to deal with being held accountable.
>>150532875>Despite Mike repeatedly freaking out because James might take the knot /bcb/ keeps insisting Mike is straightfixed.
>>150526186My prediction for where this is goingAugustus: Mike you piece of shit, you're emotionally cheating on your cellphone that cheats on youMike: Guh! I AM emotionally cheating on my cellphone that cheats on me! I need to ghost James!James: I am pissed off about thisPaulo: I'm in this chapter too for some reason
>>150532875>Taeshi keeps insisting he is straightI'm pretty sure it's the opposite, she wants to gaybait with mike but she would never make him actually date a guy
>>150533974He could come out as bi and be a bi icon who doesn't actually bi despite being bi.
Taeshi's a horrible storyteller but she draws some sexy cats.
>>150531171
>>150528573>it'd be like letting someone share nudes
>>150533023There is nothing in this page I am seeing even trying to suggest he is homo. Taeshi has tried to explicitly prevent Mike from saying he is attracted to James or men especially in the one chapter. Even when she did the group gay photo he was absent, suggesting he is straight.>>150533974Gaybait is different then saying he is gay. Until we see something like Mike saying he regretted rejecting James offer he is going to keep being seen as straight by Taeshi, as she wants him to be since he can only be interested in Lucy in the end
>>150534307Lol.Also holy shit this thread has been one of the best for edits in a long time.
>>150534179Bubblebath Mike is seriously cute. For once bro looks relaxed and content with life, to a degree.
>>150534179:P
Knowing Veronica, what are the chances Mike ACTUALLY throws a punch here?
>>150535051Bros is it gay to take a bubblebath
This comic would've gotten 10x better if Lucy was killed off.
>>150531276>/bcb/ when Mike is gaslighting his emotionally vulnerable friend into feeling worthlessHeh.. it's just words, it's not like he FORCED her off the building! he abided by all the tenets of the NAP so he's innocent!>/bcb/ when Augustus is telling James about what Mike didAIIEEEEEEEEEEE THIS IS VERBAL ASSAULT ON MIKE FOR NO REASON WHY IS TAESHI TORTURING HIM
1 millions hours in MSPaint. What do you guys think?Is she ultra kawaii?
>>150535132It might be. Now I want to draw all the boys just cuddling in a giant mansion bathtub.
>>150535240This is fire as a Paint drawing.
>>150535211I do find these threads Mikefagery irritating, but Lucy and Augustus are being pricks here. Mike IS a selfish primadonna, but the correct response would be to ignore him rather than giving him the attention he craves.And Lucy is still a parasite.
>>150529076Incredible Taeshi didn't take the 13 Reasons Why route since that is the only comparable story I can think of with making someone miserable for someone else's suicide.And Lucy didn't even fucking die. Stupid bitch should be in a wheelchair from breaking her spine after that fall.Even her bleeding on the ground doesn't really make sense. Like the impact is so bad it doesn't break any bones but it somehow hard enough to split open her side to gush blood?TF. Taeshi really has no idea how physics or 'humanoid' bodies work, does she?Lucy has no scars and only a vague bonus comic in one of her books does it mention she was in a psyche ward temporairly.It's insane she isn't in a handful of therapies.But Lucy's attempt at suicide was never about real world consequences, it was just to make Mike suffer for paying attention to Goldie, I mean Sandy.
>>150535283You know it's hilarious. Taeshi is trying SO hard to throw Mike under the bus (unless its EF, where he is suddenly redeemed after being shat on for years nonstop) - but by constantly belittling him and torturing him, she has the opposite effect. People cheer for him.I imaigne that must be pretty infuriating, although IDK, seems their fanspace has cultiaved a Lucy-simping mentality where only schizos and autists relate to her.
>>150535327The only thing that makes sense is if the snow had froze into ice with a sharp edge somehow, or she hit an awning or something on the way down. A 3-story fall shouldn't even be crippling unless she landed really poorly, let alone enough to make her splatter like she did.
>>150535283It's hard to fully blame him when some of his fuckups are beyond baffling.
>>150535211Do u think Lucy still would've taken the plunge if her parents didn't decide to ship her off to a different school?
>>150534179Poor dude does not look well, seems tired.
>>150535398I mean people do sometimes do this for fun and seem relatively unscathed.. this doesnt seem that much deeper then whatever Lucy fell into.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CqpFNPwMSqE
>>150535400It's almost impressive, really, that EF was such a clusterfuck that Mike taking Sandy back isn't even the most offensively dumb thing in it.
>>150535435At this point he'd want Sandy to break up with him so that he won't have to be burdened with socializing or dating.>>150535534Ice has microscopic shards invisible to the naked eye, another reason Lucy was lucky to survive. But maybe the collected ice as piles of snow made it softer.
>>150530947I notice you keep trying to make this into a vs Mike thing for no apparent reason.
>>150526130>>150526617>>150526222BCB is sucking so much ass that it's becoming tiresome to even come here and complain about it. It's literally just an eternal downwards spiral, that takes ages to get anywhere of note, and when it seems that it is finally getting somewhere, things either reset to a default, or somehow become even worse.I guess the only thing that keeps me coming back to these threads and the story is just that I am curious about what the hell even are Taeshi's intentions; does she want people to like Mike? To hate him? Does she think Lucy never did no wrong? Does she think Augustus is right or wrong? Does she still believe it is good and/or plausible that any of those people remain friends, let alone nurture any sort of romantic feeling for each other? Does she think the story, the characters and their actions make any sense?This does not mean the story is good or deep or a realistic depiction of drama, it is just a nonsensical mess.
>>150534179>>150535051Here's my contribution.
>>150536263Honestly its just Taeshi wanting to revisit her old Souppy/Goldie trauma from the Sonic-Amy fan form days. She can argue it's not, but I very much doubt she'd be so invested, so long and so particular if this story wasn't immensely personal for her.Essentially, she is using it to exorcise her feelings until absolute exhaustion. As long as her brain functions as it does, she I guess can keep this up for 20+ years.Maybe BCB was different back in ye olden days, maybe she had some ideas outside of 'Lets torture Mike because Im forever bitter towards my husband Oliver.' but now that's pretty much ALL it's about. You can tell by how hollow and dry everything outside of Lucy-Mike melodrama is.I'm not sure if she will ever allow herself to write Mike to the point where he totally gives into despair and gives up so Lucy can save him, because she's edging too hard on the emotional beating she loves to give him in the status quo.It's actually kind of insanity levels now though, so Im only here to dunk on it and see how crazy she gets.
>>150535211You can do it, my friend. I believed in you
>>150535612>Mike taking Sandy back isn't even the most offensively dumb thing in it.It was IMO, even though the chapters has many others.Just look at his face on the image posted by >>150535400, no man would surrender that sort of blissful feeling to go back to a shitty previous relationship, specially after his girlfriend just straight up told him she cheated with zero regrets, singing praises about the guy she cheated with. Mike, on the same night, somehow instantly forgot about all the shit Sandy said, about his rage, and about him and Lucy sharing a moment.It just doesn't make sense at all, no man, teen or not, would do that, given the circumstances.I think MxL is full of problems and stuff they'd have to fix about themselves before committing to a relationship, if they even should become a couple, but I find it preferable to NuMike and NuSandy.
>>150536540No offense anon, but as the resident Sandy defender I think you're insane. Yeah, MikeXSandy is a doomed relationship that neither of them are happy with anymore - Sandy can't relate to or get support from Mike, Mike can't trust or feel happy with Sandy - but at least they don't actively make each other worse the way Mike and Lucy do. Mike and Lucy individually are flawed, but at the very least functional, and sometimes even likable Mike moreso than Lucy, personally, but even she has her moments. But the moment they come into proximity even slightly Lucy starts gaslighting, bullying, and saying she never wanted it, while Mike becomes a sullen pathetic asshole who's constantly miserable.Mike taking Sandy back is dumb mainly because it means the whole chapter was just a meandering circle, but I don't think it's NEARLY as dumb, in-character or on a meta level, as stuff like Mike suddenly disassociating and Lucy popping in like Mike's render distance sucks. Lucy shouldn't even BE there alone, because she's still a fucking suicide risk and her family knows it. Then they "make up" because Mike grabs Lucy and begs/demands pity, then they blatantly lie to each other that they "never meant to hurt u". Then Mike gets all flirty and Lucy goes for the kiss, and it's framed like this big romantic moment rather than the dysfunctional, dishonest stupidity that it is.
>>150534398Anon, Mike's bi. Taeshi's disappointed because she got her dates mixed up and thought that the page where Augustus notices Mike's crush on the twink would upload on bisexual visibility day.
>>150537203You know, this board has gone on for years at this point on how Mike is bi and she was shying away from confirming it for whatever reasonI need to see something more direct but if THIS page is how Taeshi is planning to confirm it it is very awkwardly put together vaguely. We all know she is a bad writer but was so vague the patreon did not mention a word about it and this is the first person to bring it up anywhere online.
>>150537581It's not even the first time it's been brought up in these threads, as if Mike being bisexual needed to be confirmed when he>went on a date with a boy>enjoyed being kissed by a boy until remembering he technically has a girlfriend>is currently envious of another boy for having first boy's attention
>>150529594>It's just a schizo taking out her real life issues on a cat. Mike has nothing to atone for. Nobody wants to get Lucy actual help.Fucking this. What did Mike do wrong here? Existing?
Mike blowup: pentup spur of the moment, was not premeditated, private setting, regretted/apologised it later because he understood it was too much and he still cared for her. Lucy actively avoiding her friends in general before this shit show Augustus "blowup?": actively acting towards his target to mellow him before dropping the blow, canonically premeditated, deliberately in front of a specific "public", doesnt care about Mike and never will. Mike actively trying to be with James before Augustus' pissPatreons: they are the same!
>>150537700Yeah, he's being taught that his mere existence is a threat and has every reason to become a cynical nihilist at this point.
It's clear the "Haunting" thing is supposed to mirror Mike calling Lucy a "Parasite", but as usual, taeshi fumbles it up. Mike would need to be intentionally following her for him to be anywhere close to what Augustus is implying. But Mike does not talk to Lucy at all during school or after school. Trying to force him to stay inside is bullshit because he's out there for the track team and doesn't even know Lucy is there.Meanwhile Lucy would latch on to any cat guy that would give her attention and put up with her shit. If it wasn't Mike, it was Paulo, and when it wasn't either of them, it became Augusuts. Lucy is still a genuine parasite no matter how much Taeshi want's to drop that whole aspect of December. Mike has not been proven wrong since she came back.If anything, Lucy standing there and watching all of this while not doing anything is a perfect example.
>>150537642It’s more that everyone here sees him as bisexual but she shys away from it very directly by being nicheThink how directly how Paulo and Daisy (out of nowhere) were confirmed, that is how Taeshi is. Mike had not had that, it has been gay bait but not actual confirmation Consider also even after the fake date and kiss/ask out Taeshi still did not put him on the gay character drawing. If she decides he is it will be sudden phrasing like with Felix or Daisy, but at least not out of nowhere like with her
>>150538429You're under the impression that Augustus is being logical and not vindicative. He wants to guilt trip Mike, or is delusional and thinking that Mike is outside just to upset her.
>>150526130I dreamt up a crackfic erotic idea where Mike gathers James, Felix, Abbey, Paulo, and David to gangrape Augustus as punishment for pulling this bullshit.
I'm now tempted to write a MikexHaley fic so that this dude can finally win in life
>>150538429The problem is that Taeshi is working too much on "perceived" actions and "vibes". The whole December rant was supposed to be buried already, even Lucy said it out loud, that Mike was right to explode at her for the treatment she had been given him, and he too apologized for saying things he shouldn't have, but since Lucy is again mad at Mike it is December's corpse that's being dragged back into the plot because it can't just be about Mike taking Sandy back or his self inflicted suffering, or him not talking things with Lucy first so she doesn't find out by eavesdropping, no it has to be a personal attack of Mike onto Lucy or else she can't be put as a bigger victim. This development is jarring because the punishment of bringing back all his sins whenever he errs doesn't fit when Lucy's are constantly swept under the rug because she's the only character that the narrative bends itself to forgive
>>150538429>the "Haunting" thing is supposed to mirror Mike calling Lucy a "Parasite""He doesn't even love you. Nobody does. Why would they? You're a ghost."Honestly Taeshi probably wanted to reuse parasite but held off for some reason. I wouldn't be 100% sure it doesn't come up until the scene is over.And yeah as with a lot of things Mike, she passed up all the good opportunities to do this and now has to settle for this nonsense. The whole "haunting" thing woulda been easier to digest back when Mike was doing shit like hiding behind trees, following her home after martial arts class. I guess it could parallel Lucy getting Decembered only after she decides to change her act, but it's still not a great fit.Lucy parasitizing Mike lasted a long time and you could see him get worn down by it. Mike showing up to glare at Lucy occasionally went on for less time and didn't really seem to have any compounding effect on Lucy. She definitely wasn't having the nightmares she's having now, if she really did only return to "square one" after EF. If anything she somehow went into the tail end of sperg Mike with less animosity than before. Like she was giving him Sandy advice in Witch Hunt.
>>150538731DO IT PLEASE!
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>>150538701Hot
>>150538851I think the problem Taeshi has is that for Mike to have his own December it HAS to be Lucy doing it, or else it falls flat. Ironically Augustus is being driven by how fed up he is of Lucy at the moment, her ribbing is no longer fun, he can't criticize her seriously like he used to and feels obligated to protect her from others, it really reads like Augustus pissed off at Mike for not being a good host for the parasite, because he already knew how Lucy was pre-catsup so his treatment shouldn't be a surprise at all. No, for Mike to be actually decembered it should be Lucy, from a pained moment, not angry but pleading to him to stop tormenting her life or giving her hope that things can work between them both, use his guilt in a way that isn't holding receipts on front of him but showing him that his indecision is hurting others and that he is a specter that haunts her to this day. No fight backs, no misunderstanding, no anger and arguing, just a plea to stick to something and stop wanting everything to work out. It just doesn't work when someone else does it because the bias is too strong and they're too fairweather But we can't have that, because Lucy can't risk being an actual character instead of a goal and plot device
Any update on the unfinished requests from last thread?
>>150538851>>150539221I think the point might be that Mike's mere existence causes issues for Lucy, but Taeshi did indeed utterly botch the execution by waiting too long and indulging in too many tangents. This "haunting" business is a result of Lucy's own unexplained obsession first and foremost. If she stopped giving a fuck about Mike, the problem evaporates. It's only his problem by default because Lucy is nuts and won't be held to account. Still, we all know Mike would internalize the notion anyway. It probably can't drive him to suicide just like that, but it can push him toward existential despair.I also agree that Lucy should be the one doing this. But she wouldn't beg Mike--Lucy is just too damn angry and spiteful for that. We've seen her sperg and lash out before so it would be 100% in character for her to explode her frustration all over Mike. Having Augustus do it instead is pretty lame, and it's a small miracle that Lucy is here giving her tacit endorsement rather than remaining utterly innocent and unaware. Maybe Taeshi can't justify in her head any alternative for some reason, or she thinks this will somehow lessen Lucy's own share of the guilt. The notion that Augustus is doing this out of frustration toward his own charge is an interesting one that makes more sense than just becoming Abbey 2.0.
>>150539186Yep.Oh speaking of which we totally need a Kinktober trash thread.
>>150539341The reason I imagine Lucy sobbing and begging is for the contrast, like how Mike who is known to be a bit of a doormat and too forgiving suddenly exploded and went overboard with anger, I also imagine Lucy breaking down and letting her choleric charade go for once and just be tired of it all
>>150539488Alright, I still don't think it'd be terribly in character BUT the contrast could be interesting and especially if it led to some basic character development from Lucy to make up for the unlikelihood. A justification in post, if you will.
>>150538851>She definitely wasn't having the nightmares she's having now, if she really did only return to "square one" after EF.The nightmares are so hard for me to buy because they come off more as something Taeshi just pulled out of her ass to give lucy some kind of excuse. It's not that trauma from that event can't happen, but with how Taeshi writes BCB, it feels like more of a recent idea than something that was always intended.At minimum the dreams should have been introduced way earlier. Either around the time she first came back, or, in a small arc of what she was doing while she was away from town. The latter would have been the best option.
>>150529545>>150529569>>150529593If this was a real thing, I could see it as FemAugustus/Augustine hooking up with mike originally just for shits and giggles, but eventually she starts flowing between trying to "Corrupt" him to be like her and wanting him to "Fix" her and give her some stability in life.And while Lucy had to deal with Mike picking Sandy, the long distance relationship aspect always gave her a small hope that things just wouldn't work out between them and they'd break up so she would have a chance.But Augustine is here and not afraid to gun after Mike, bringing a whole new obstacle into the situation.
>>150526718I thought we established that this line never actually existed in the comic and was instead a collective hallucination by /co/
>>150539599>they come off more as something Taeshi just pulled out of her ass to give lucy some kind of excuseWell, you see, that's exactly the case. It's not even a good excuse, either. In one chapter, Lucy went from a self-deceptive, self-righteous, and generally selfish bitch to an irreparable nutcase whose inbuilt delusions run so deep that nothing short of intensive psychotherapy could possibly help her. Worse, now Lucy absolutely knows she is fundamentally insane but still pretends to be on top of it all, laying into other people for their great sin of daring to care. Because she knows they are absolutely right to worry and, as per usual, her personal insecurities must be made everyone else's problem. So all Taeshi managed to do was make her self-insert Mary Sue all the more insufferable. The worst part is this wasn't even a poorly planned spur of the moment misstep like Mike slamming Paulo's head into the table. This was a premeditated fuckup, at least as far back as Double Down and possibly even earlier. The dream nonsense is most surely a result of Taeshi's own warped viewpoint; how she thinks this should all work. Lucy is mentally (omg just like her fr fr!) and therefore deserves nothing but sympathy. It doesn't matter thar she villifies people for literally no good reason--that's not her fault! Lucy has no personal agency so can't stop herself! Unless she does, in which case she deserves to be showered in asspats for doing the absolute bare minimum of not lashing out. And once in a blue moon she'll even try to make up for acting like a horrid cunt! Wow, what a huge fucking improvement. This is so much better than when Lucy was just a stupid teenager who needed another smack upside the head to get her rear back into gear.
>>150539837Eh, we also established the quote embodies Lucy's general attitude accurately enough.
>>150537203Mike always struck me as asexual but desperate for a relationship.
>Lucy seemingly gained some perspective post-jump and apologized to Mike for her behavior and acknowledged that he was right to yell at her during December. >Mike later comes on to her out of nowhere when they meet at the tree>She's (maybe against her better judgement) excited that Mike is finally into her >Next day at school Mike is chatting up Sandy right on front of her>She finally emotionally ditches him after realizing he will never let go of Sandy>Lucy now genuinely doesn't give a shit about Mike and doesn't want anyone making a scene about her suicide attempt since those events are so closely tied to him.>"I did all of that because of him? Holy shit what was I thinking, this dude is a mess.">She doesnt get upset, just embarrassed when seph cat starts airing out her dirty laundry with zero subtlety If Taeshi was a better writer this would be premium pottery of the turned table variety where Mike is now the pressed wreck with a history of lashing out
Augustus should take a cheese grater and replicate that infamous e621 picture
>>150540221This doesn't seem like much of an improvement.
>>150540221It's bizarre to me that both Mike and Lucy constantly have moments of clarity and recognition of their faults and how the people around them (aside from their families) aren't actually good for them but then are forced by the story to forget this and dance around the same issues over and over again Tae isn't a hack as much as she is petrified or unwilling to have her characters move on from the same struggle that she herself can't move on fromFrom a purely psychological point of view this comic is fascinating
>Mike>BiNo he's not>B-But the author said/implied it!So what? Call me when the comic shows him kissing a guy, and even then it will be extremely OOC and you fucking know it
>>150540430Anon he already kissed a guy lol
>>150540443FullBlownMakeOut
>>150540430My problem with Taeshi's word of god on the subject (and in general) is how worthless it's become. Years ago, she strongly indicated that Lucy had bisexual leanings by putting Jessica in third on Worst Cat's prefered partner tier list. Now, Lucy is definitely totally hetero for sure. I guess we'll see how that shakes out come next decade.
when will White Cat DECEMBER Grey Cat?
>>150540510Anon, she has The Help to handle that sort of thing. How else could Augustus earn room and board?
>>150540488Taeshi flip flops very often on stuff which makes it messy, and plot points get brought out of nowhere The one thing with the gay shit is once it’s out there that is it. She can’t exactly retcon Daisy as straight now, even if she re-edited the page later on. Same thing with Mike if she fully confirms this
>>150540430But anon, when every action is OOC... none of them are.
>>150540615>DaisyOf course she can. Daisy has shown zero actual attraction to any girl in-comic. All she's done is tell Paulo she's bisexual, which comes across as a cope so her obsession over Sandy seems less pathetic, and to forge a link with an unambiguously bisexual Paulo.
>>150540916It feels like a joke considering she was salivating about the track team practice, but is also the captain of the cheerleader squad and while they're no Sandy she has never shown any attraction towards them
>>150540548
>>150541029It's funny but also sad that there are fans who seriously believe this.
>>150540510>>150540548Looking at this reminded me that, at the time, the pets were still a thing and they just let it all go down like this.And then the hedgehog that was supposed to be the wise one of the pets asked Mike why he suddenly cared after hearing about her suicide attempt
So how long until Mike tries to kill himself, fails because Taeshi will never let go of her chew toy, and Haley beats the everliving shit out of Augustus in the middle of the school hallway?
>>150541101Yeah, that always bugged me. Lilly acting like she could not possibly have intervened earlier was always a crock of bullshit and probably a good early example of Taeshi's objectivity slipping.
>>150540409It's the same as Paulo's constant resets. The comic continuously flirts with organic consequences and interesting development, but there's so much poison in the well that the only way things could go if allowed to proceed naturally is everyone breaking up and finding their own friend groups, or being depressed and lonely for the rest of high school, OR murder-suicide.And while Taeshi was willing to let Tess and Abbey go "fuck this" and leave for greener pastures, she absolutely is NOT willing to let her precious core four do so.
>>150541316Somehow nobody that could inervene noticed Lucy acting like a depressed wreck until it was too late. Not the pets, not any of her family members, barely the other friends.Well, Tess tried with the play but that made things worse in the long run
>>150540548I like the fact that Taeshi drew several pages dedicated to Lucy's physical reaction to getting violently rejected, it really emphasizes the disbelief and panic she was feeling at having her bubble torn open
>>150540548Mike used to be so based
So Lucy went to another school while she was gone, right? You mean to tell me there's NOTHING about her experiences there that comes up in the comic at all?Nothing about getting an alternative look at things or adapting to a place where she doesn't have any pull?
Pretty fly for a bi guy
>>150541544>Be Taeshi>Mike is a boring loser!>Mike is short!>Mike is selfish!>Mike is a piece of shit!>Mike is gay!Uhhhh so why is Lucy so hopelessly in love with a short gay loser, Taeshi?
>>150541544If she wants to push this idea that Mike is bisexual, Taeshi should quit pussyfooting around and have him initiate a guy kiss. Oh who am I kidding: ten years from now, she will declare that Mike was always ramrod straight and Lucy was the only one for him, ever. In fact, one big reason why Mike liked Sandy so much? She's a white furred cat, same as Lucy. Truly, he was made for her.
>>150541723I think this is the real reason why Taeshi got so upset with her patrons for despising Mike--because it reflected poorly on Lucy. But now that Lucy is or shortly will be "over" him, Mike is fair game for maximum pain and tear-down.
>>150541762>Okay Mike kissed a boy and liked it but didn't initiate so he's not gay despite the author saying he isI hope you realize how desperate and ridiculous this type of thinking is
>>150541834Not what I said, but good job outing your own insecurities on the matter.
>Tumblrfags still trying to push the gay angle
For Mike to be gay would require him to have a sexual or romantic bone in his body, rather than just limply going along with whatever because he's so "nice". Mike's sexuality is Null.
>>150541190No lie, Haley visciously beating Augustus would make for a hell of a story.>>150541529Just the psych ward.>>150541986He'll likely become aromantic.
>>150541529Everything between the jump and her return is a blur that's best unexplained according to Taeshi, in those nine months she learned nothing, had no new friends, did no progress in therapy aside from getting angrier, did a miracle recovery with not as much as a limp to show for it, and was so well off she was "allowed" to go back to Roseville for no reason in particular with all the people she doesn't want to interact with in the same school that she got her problems fromIt's not canon but she probably felt miserable with no host to cling to and no narrative to excuse her
>>150541529>>150541997I think it's pretty clear at this point that Taeshi has no real clue how to write Lucy's time away. She had no solid ideas to begin with and has only made that job all the harder by kicking the can down the road. Too much has happened that she would need to account for.
>>150541996>No lie, Haley visciously beating Augustus would make for a hell of a story.The only downside is that Augustus, having been Lucy's proxy, would be catching all the fists that should have landed on Worst Cat.
>>150541762>ok yes these Mike chapters are about him being obsessed with James, but she hasn't said it's because Mike's in love with him!>ok yes, she's now saying that, but she'll retcon him to be straight!Mucyfags furiously huffing copium and pretending not to like their awful ship.
>>150542261>MucyfagsDo you believe in unicorns and fairies as well?
>>150542261I've never seen a thread so tsundere for a ship in my whole life than this thread over Mucy, the amount of times I've just shit on MxL and had people come out of the woodwork and flip out in defense of a ship they claim to hate is astonishing.
>>150542261>Ok yes, Mike was getting fucked graphically on page by James but he didn't orgasm so he's not gay and taeshi is being vague
>>150541544This change leaves kind of a bad taste in my mouth. Early Mike caught a lot of shit from Paulo and Lucy calling him fruity, but ultimately that was just their own insecurities reacting to a guy who was fairly self-confident and didn't feel the need to put up a facade, including performing masculinity. And now it's just like, no, they were right. As much as Taeshi seems like she's tried to move forward from her days of homophobic stereotypes and loli jokes, this feels like a step back.It reminds me of his Kermit costume from way back. I tried to convince myself that maybe the problem was with me for thinking the costume was humiliating, and it was just meant to be Mike enjoying a fun costume. But his lack of masculinity/libido being flanderized coincides with his increasingly sadistic treatment by the writing, and it's almost exclusively brought up as a joke or to make him look pathetic.It's a complicated feeling because I don't even really mind him being into guys. Like if he hooked up with Felix or whoever it would be cool with me.
patreonfag here, next page will be great! My prediction is actually happening.
>>150542526>My prediction is actually happening.No it's not.
>The only good thing about this entire chapter is fanmade female Augustus
>>150542536The parodies, edits, and art have been the only good things about this comic for years now.
>>150542533Yea it is retard, Mike will be expelled for raping Augustus, and Lucy being like, "what a bad boy, owo"
>>150542507It's just women being unable to write male characters
>>150542591Paulo was a good male character for the first 4 volumes so that's clearly not it.
>>150542582>Taeshi really loses her mind and has Mike rape Aug.Oh please God make it so, I want this comic to jump the shark so hard it ends up in space.
>>150542598It wasn't the problem until it became a problem after Taeshi gave up.Chicks can write ok male characters, but Taeshi isn't putting any thought into what she writes anymore so she keeps writing female traits in without realizing while Suitcase jerks himself off in the corner over banning another leaker instead of actually doing anything useful and telling his wife that straight males don't act this way. Guys aren't constantly blushing when they talk to each other, they're not whining over stupid relationship nonsense and trauma. Write them like that and they look effeminate and gay.
>>150542772Women write men like that. It's a telltale sign whatever you're reading/watching was written by a woman.
>>150542399>the amount of times I've just shit on MxL and had people come out of the woodwork and flip out in defense of a ship they claim to hate is astonishingCool, show us where that's happened.
>>150542507>As much as Taeshi seems like she's tried to move forward from her days of homophobic stereotypes and loli jokes, this feels like a step back.It's almost like Taeshi never grew up, never matured, and all of her supposed progressive leanings are performative.
>>150542772Based on some of her diary comics, it looks like Taeshi doesn't like men very much. Now that's probably thanks to her own attitude problems, self-isolation, and having Suitcase as her arch-example, but the fact is she'd rather write all of her males like that these days. Even Augustus can only break people down with words and is a huge wimp.
>>150542246The weird thing is, that should have been easy as hell with like an hour of thought at most. You have a ton of potential for Lucy to be in a new setting with new characters and to actually explore her mindset and how she'd act.But Taeshi somehow just decides not to do something potentially interesting because, i think at this point, she started putting more of herself into Lucy. Whether she realized it consciously or not. Plus the scenarios would require Lucy to be in the wrong, possibly a lot, until she gets her shit together and tries to be better. And we can't have that for some reason, can we?
>>150542990Yeah it's prbly from the irl experience. But shouldn't most of the people have some sort of idealized version of something? Especially when it comes to the opposite gender
>>150542536That's been the comic for years at this point
>>150543028I think that Suitcase used to be her ideal, both his perceived nicer and jackass sides. But it's hard for me to imagine any woman could find a gambling addiction particular attractive, so both Mike and Paulo ended up as seriously watered down, soggified versions of themselves.
>>150542536>fanmadeI dunno, is it really when THIS is canon?
>>150543066>I think that Suitcase used to be her ideal,jesus fucking christ. that's depressing.
>>150543313If Mike had a molecule of testosterone remaining he would've raped him right there.
>>150543356Dunno, bobbleheads are a pretty big turnoff.
>>150543313Made for rule63 and impregnation
>>150542258Yep, she'd also restrain or beat Haley back, protective over Augustus going like "Please he doesn't deserve this".
>>150543356Nah, he'll take Auggie to a corner, rape him there, leave him as an ejaculation covered mess and the next day Lucy will be wondering why he's suddenly so calm and avoiding Mike.On the crackfic chance Mike ever does this.
>>150543557I'd like to think that Haley would lay into Lucy pretty hard for defending the guy who she blames for destroying her older brother. Haley was shown to get along with Lucy pretty well in the past, but whatever friendship they might've had would be over. You know, assuming Lucyspace didn't kick in.
>>150543012Lazy writers often take "write what you know" as "write yourself", rather than "do research and read so you know what/how you want to write".
>>150543645Also for Lucy abusing her brother for years. She'd find Lucy and Augustus unforgivable.
>>150543790Haley was fine with the abuse. She never took it seriously.
>>150543847To be fair, was that before it turned out the abuse wasn't tsundere bullshit or after?Also a close relative suddenly becoming suicidal will lead someone to evaluate what could have driven them to that edge, and Lucy and Augustus would be smack dab in the center of it.
>>150543847She probably didn't know or pay attention but if she did and let it slide, that would be awful of her.By the way, a plausible ending:
>>150543933So would it be a river or would it be the river as a suicide method? Mike probably wouldn't wanna paste himself like Lucy.
>>150539696Augustina and Alejandra revenge plan was to corrupt Mike, It worked at first, but they ended up waking up the monster inside him
>>150543918Pretty sure their last interaction was in December, and it was positive.
>>150544116Mike's liver seems to barely function based on his reaction to alcohol or pills. He could probably overdose on tylenol without much trouble.
>>150544185That was before Taeshi decided his parents are fighting, Mike is the golden kid because he does well in school and never complains while Haley is the problem kid, and that she's been skipping home because they leave babysitting Chris to her so now Mike is doing it
>>150526130
>>150544116Men tend to go for reliable methods of suicide ie rope
>>150544413Follow up with both looking at Lucy who says nothing, Mike falls to the floor with a loud THUD and Lucy says I didn't want this to happen
>>150544484
>>150544577>>150544413Great stuff anon.Sad that Daisy lost everyone she actually wanted to date :(
>>150544413Augustus is LITERALLY killing Mike by referencing all the awful shit Mike's done
>>150544671Realized Emocat is right behind Scarf boy at an angle he probably gets shot too.
>>150544577Mike literally abused Lucy by aiming his brain blood at her
>>150544413>>150544577>>150544691I love it.
>>150544116>>150544212Yeah, overdosing, gunshot, hanging, and jumping are common methods. Problem is drowning is painful, it's easy to chicken out and try to get out of it since it takes a while.
>>150544865Yes drowning is painful but harder to pull yourself out when the river is strong enough. Only issue is the other methods are harder to save Mike from. His parents being gone and Haley being absent mean he could kill himself with these methods but the issue is Chris. Plus I don't think Mike would wanna leave the body where they can easily find it.
>>150545119I see. It would be terrifying if Chris found his body too.
>>150545119If Mike were to try and kill himself, I think he'd want to minimize the chance of any guilt. In his mind, it would be better if he just vanished in a way that left nobody any reason to blame themselves. That's assuming the comic hasn't driven him to think everyone would be happier if he was gone, even his family.
>>150543052>Abigail calls Paula a dirty slutkek>>150543066
>>150541986>"NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BE A GOOD GUY! YOU HAVE TO BE SUAVE AND MYSTERIOUS!"Fuck off, cunt.
>>150541986I need Taeshi to draw Mike take oral with James' dick just for scientific conclusion of his supposed homosexuality
>>150545798Being a windsock with no principles or personality isn't being a "good guy", dipshit.>>150545945Mike being Null doesn't mean he wouldn't suck James dick. Hell, the only reason Mike HASN'T sucked anyone's dick is because no one's told him to yet. Just hearing "It'd make me happy, Mike!" would get him to do literally anything.Mike would stick his hand in a running blender if you said "please".
>>150545798Big incel vibes from this post>Being nice is totally a replacement for a personality
no wonder Lucy's malding about Mike: he's the easiest person to seduce in the world>take the lead>be nice to him>don't be too pushyThat's it, and she couldn't even manage that.
>>150545796Paula would be the worst kind of slut - a "pick-me" who gets attention by putting down other girls and being "one of the boys".You just know she'd hang around Lukas going "Ugh, girls are so dramatic" without a trace of irony or awareness.
>>150547333>Genderbent Paulo and Lucy just swap places with each otherat last I truly see
>>150546977>LucyCan't take the lead, not nice at all, goes from pushy to hostile >PauloNot nice, barely a good friend, emotional whore>DaisyToo pushy and can't take the lead without forcing herself on him>SandyAll three, but too self centered, time bomb due to famously stressing and abusive job>JamesAll three but hes even more of a whore than Paulo if that is possible, a stalkerAt this point what Mike needs is someone who's fucking normal and has a healthy interest on him. You could say Daisy is the most normal of them but her wandering eye gets the best of her. You might as well ship him with some asexual girl, that'll probably do him good
>>150545945Guys throw out as many Kinktober ideas as you can.>>150546213You can also be straight and suck a dick out of curiosity or for pleasure. Feeling pleasure from anal penetration in general is also a natural bodily stimulus/reaction, regardless of sexuality.
>>150547360It's not a PERFECT switch - Paula wouldn't react to resentment by claiming she never fucking wanted it, she'd just go "what, jealous? you WISH you could get boys like I do". Lukas would get rapey/violent and say "look what you made me do" if rejected or insulted, whereas Paulo just pouts and sulks. Paula would actively bully other girls out of some weird repressed sapphic tendency, whereas Lucy is straight as an arrow and doesn't bother bullying other girls because she doesn't think of them as peers or as people.But they ARE both sexist pick-mes who try to fill their void of self-worth with sex, so there are definitely parallels.
>>150547746How the fuck would you even write Lukas trying to force himself on femAugustus and then pretend he is sympathic? I think we have talked about male Daisy being an incel but Lukas would be one and twice as rapey.
>>150548099You don't even have to go that far, normal Lucy interactions become unhinged when you stop excusing her for being a girl
>>150548484Like there's a good reason most Lucy fans are either simps or self inserters, they wouldn't defend an angry gremlin
>>150548099You'd have to spend WAY more time examining Lukas's psychology and state of mind. Most people can sympathize even with straight-up serial killers so long as the reasons are explained in depth. Paint Lukas as a DEEPLY lonely, angry young boy in the 2000s, with poorly-repressed bipolar and violent tendencies. Their psychological stability is dependent on their childhood friend/crush, they bully people as a defense mechanism, and he's openly sexist, but all the adults around write off or ignore the many, MANY warning signs of Lukas' burgeoning antisocial tendencies.
>>150548526That annoyed look is probably one of my favorite panels of Mike. It's not fully disdainful yet, but it's a clear warning sign that his patience is running thin and Lucy needs to start patching wounds instead of inflicting them.
>>150543701For a moment I thought I sleepwalked and typed that...Unfortunately many authors nowadays seems to forget the real meaning
Mike dies of AIDs and Lucy dabs on his grave
>>150550995All BCB characters
>>150526130Everytime I spot this on the front page it is the grey cat being yelled at
>>150552176That's a good description of the plot yeah