Is this a bad sign?
That Pixar is still making and releasing films? Yes it's a terrible sign.
>>150534677Yes. This guy is a dumb fuck. Bird himself picked Sohn to take on this movie. Sohn worked on all the movies he’s directed. He even voiced Emile in Ratatouille.
>>150534821hey /tv/
>>150534677Retard says retarded thing and gets thousands of likes. Bad sign of humanity indeed
>>150534677>its the year 2025>Pixar is makimg yet another sequel>The first Incredibles sequel spit on What the first film was saying>Brad Bird isn't involved>Consider Pixars latest outputPixars mere existance is a bad sign.
I was going to say the lazy answer of "it's because Brad Bird is a SWM and this other fella is Asian" but thankfully it's notBrad Bird is making what appears to be kino and doesn't have time for The Incredulous 3No disrespect to this Sohn fella, directing Good Dinosaur is enough suffering but yknow how it is now
>>150534836>>150534837>>150534847>0.83649274847294 MouseBucks have been deposited into your Disney account
>>150534677>>150534836He directed The Good Dinosaur but IIRC he was a last minute replacement
>>150534677>Getting a new director for an old IPDid they learn nothing from Lightyear? Whatever villain we get for this new movie is probably gonna be worse than Screenslaver.
100%
>>150534856>directing Good Dinosaur is enough suffering but yknow how it is nowHe was put as director last minute, I think that whether he is the correct pick for the project depends on if you think the guy that directed Elemental is a good fit for Incredibles 3.
>>150534677Elemental had some okay qualities to it.
>>150535152The guy got lucky that his fellow Koreans loved that movie so much they made it the highest grossing Pixar movie ever in the country.
>>150534677Just make the villain cool this time, super heroes are only as good as their foes and Screenslaver was shit compared to Syndrome, stop with the twist villain shit and just give him or her more screentime being evil
Cool gonna watch it when it hits kisscartoon.me
>>150535196Agreed
>>150534677How to make Incredibles 3 good:1. Make Violet grown up (optional)2. Make Violet have a body to rival Helen's3. Have scene where Dash is sandwiched between the both of them4. Bob murders a villain on accident or causes unnecessary harm to the villain and others trying to stop them, which puts superheroes back into hiding as talk of making them illegal again comes back
>>150535138>directed both good dinosaur and elementalShit man I'd just kill myself if that was my legacy
>>150535196Disney and Pixar have an autistic hateboner for villains since around 2010, for example in the DVD extras for UP they said that originally they didn't want the movie to have a villain because "villains are unrealistic and people like them who goes "haha! I'm going to do something bad!!" don't exist int he real world", then in Strange World they had a character complaining about a card game having no villains saying that having no villains is poor storytelling only to be told "There's no villains!! we don't need villains!!!"
Incredibles 2 suckes ass so Brad Bird is not a faultless god.
This is going to suck shit through a straw.
>>150535096Sohn worked on both Incredibles films. He was Bird’s protégée since Iron Giant
>>150535369Honestly the villain in UP wasn’t that well written so I understand
>>150534677Craig t Nelson is 81 and Sam Jackson is 76. This is elder abuse.
>>150535369>2012-2020 was the era of twist villains>2020 onwards is about Family trauma
>>150534677Incredibles 2 was fucking terrible so I don't care.
>>150534677Yes. Sohn’s movie suck.Although in fairness, Incredibles 2 even with Bird was complete shit too and a shitty rehash of the first film.So hopefully Sohn will at least do something original.
>>150534677No one cares, especially since i2 was just a retread of 1 but with an even more retarded antagonist. i2 was just Helen Parr fan service
>>150535858 Up was never a well written movie and the emotional hook is miscarriage. he was perfectly serviceable for the plot they had written him into as a villain, He just needed to be there to fuck with the protagonists, have the same adventurous spirit but twisted evil. It's no shocker he turned out like an arrogant prick because he never fucked bitches, and if he did they were all sex tourism whores
>>150534875Stfu troon
>>150535369I wish these writers understand that good and evil are simplified in stories because it gives audiences a better story. Also even if two people have a misunderstanding and nobody is at fault, initially the two will believe themselves as correct and the other as wrong so having a right and wrong is easily understood.I think they think theyre being complex and morally gray, but they just dont write morally gray villains well.
>>150534677The second one was woke shit so who cares
>>150536406>Up was never a well written movie and the emotional hook is miscarriageWhy yes, I base my views on movies from internet animation reviewers too!
>>150536930the second one was infamously the same fucking plot as the first one but the baddie and the hero were women instead. Like, a major criticism of the film is that it was was essentially the same film. If the sequel was woke, but the first one wasn't, then I guess "woke" just means "features characters that are not straight white males".
Should I3's main villain be a super supremacist/evil super instead of another normal human with gadgets?
>>150537309He should be a Super Racist with a big shovel.
>>150534677>Peter Sohn (Forgettable, The Forgotten)Yeah it's doomed.
>>150534677>>150534854>>150536324Bird is still writing the script iIrc
>>150537309>A minority supremacistCould be interesting.
>>150534836Sohn is a abysmal director. The fucker is an environmental artist. He has no fucking concept of story telling. I don't get why Pixar keeps handing this guy projects when he keeps failing.
>Modern disney shit + korean at the wheelI can already see the shitshow>Bob need be better>Violet get college>Helen get empty nest feeling>Dash need be better>Jack jack get ipad
>>150537392He is. Hopefully, he'll have an idea this time instead of rehashing the previous movie.
I'd much rather a movie about the glory days that explains where most of the supervillains went.
Peter Sohn is the ultimate industry plant. He must kiss ass a lot at Pixar because he is their golden boy their and keeps getting directing and va roles
Think they'd ever bite the bullet and show an aged up Violet with her mother's figure?
>>150537562I want to know why Violet has different hair than the rest of the family. Who's her real father? What secret are they hiding?
>>150537591Autists keep pushing this time skip idea and I think it would be the fucking worst. Save that shit for incredible VI or VII when they go direct to streaming
>>150536912>>150535369Mustache-twirling evil is fun and it's honest. There are plenty of people who say they're morally justified in what they're doing, but know it's a blatant lie they're telling people just to dupe others into going along with it, when they're really just doing something out of hate or just to make themselves a profit. You've really got to reach a certain level of power and influence before you can just tell people you're doing something just to fuck-over someone you don't like.
>>150537600She dyed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRMoEtxXY_c
>>150534821Agreed
>>150537064Buddy if you didn't catch all the feminist virtue signaling through out or don't understand what woke means that's on you but I'm telling you now, Incredibles 2 is woke shit
>>150536324Incredibles 2 was mid because Bird didn’t really want to make it
>>150537963Yeah, but he had to redeem himself in Disney's eyes after Tomorrowland tanked hard.
>>150535369Point out Hitler was a good guy from the German POV along modern POVs looking for n alternative to modern society and the same people instantly lose their shit and start screeching about objective morality and how he actually was evil all along before threatening to report you under suspicion of fascism.
I guarantee that Brad Bird's Ray Gunn will be better than any recent Pixar film. And if I'm incorrect, then everything I know might be wrong.
>>150537617Why is it a bad idea?>>150537591Why would she have her mother's figure? Her powers don't really require her to work her muscles that muchShe should keep her thin figure but become slightly taller
>>150535369>villains are unrealistic and people like them who goes "haha! I'm going to do something bad!!Well yes, people do bad things to get somthing positive out of it, like the Jade Monkey or a brief feeling of superiority. Sometimes the hero and villian want the exact same thing; get the girl, win the race, find the Jade Monkey; what makes the villain bad is he willing to do immoral and even monstrous things to get it.I don't know how to use semicolons.
>>150534677Watched the Good Dinosaur with my daughter like 5 years ago. Possibly the most forgettable movie I ever watched.
>>150535196A supervillain would be fitting thematically after a tech villain and a powerless one
>>150535369That's dumb. Sid in Toy Story 1 wasn't that bad a person. He didn't know the toys were alive and was only guilty of being a bit of an obnoxious dick, particularly towards his sister. And yet everyone would unequivocally agree he was the villain of the movie.
>>150538195I mean, Bird is a really good director and this has been describes as a passion project. It's not unreasonable to be optimistic, and even if it end's up not being good, at the very least it can be interesting to discuss, unlike many recent Disney and Pixar films.
>>150535282>3. Have scene where Dash is sandwiched between the both of themIncest between supers should be legalized, as there's few of them and a normal human could get hurt when things get steamy. Violet and (especially) Helen are the only ones that can get Dashed and survive to talk about it
>>150534677DOA
>>150534677>a bad signShouldn’t it be good since the second one sucked?
>>150535196Gamma Jack should be the villain.
>>150540328Only Helen could deal with it and she’d probably still melt due to the heat generated by the friction.
>>150534677Time skip is back in the running.College age Violet here we come!
They better hurray up and film this.Craig Nelsen (Mr incredible) is 81Holly Hunter (Elastgirl) is 67Sarah Vowell (Violet) is 55Sam Jackson (Frozone) is 77
>>150541005Why does it take so long for Hollywood to do anything these days? It took them like a decade to make the sequel and the actors save for Holly Hunter sounded old as shit.
>>150541041Because they care more about money laundering and raping children than making movies.
>>150534677If he's interested in fanservice I'm interested in his movie
>>150541288He directed Elemental.Did that have fan service?
>>150534677Incredibles 2 was terribleshitting on the message of the first one that was all about "we are the strongest when we fight together" for a lame, sexist and woke girlboss agenda movie.
>>150541329Ember and the fire people were hot so yes.
>>150541329>every film will be exactly like the last oneI mean, there's a chance you're going to guess correctly but not due to that thought process
It's gonna be all about Dash and Violet trying to live up to their parents. Get Robert Kirkman to write the story
>>150535369That's strange world quote was worse because it something akin to "There's no real villains in the real world." If anything, this just showed me alot of this pixar writers and producers are a bunch of sheltered dipshits that read some fucking philosophy book from their local scizo and was like, "Ummmm there's no Evil, just the human condition lol!" Like fuck you! People are getting killed for what they look like, where they're born, there's people getting fucking raped and getting funded by the governments of the world, AND THIS FUCKING MOVIE IS SAYING, "THERES NO VILLAINS IN THE REAL WORLD!?" FUCK YOU! That's some fucking bullshit bro, and the fact they had a government figure that stopped exploiting resources after learning the environmental damage that occur and was like, "Im sorry, I won't do it again," and expect people to think that's a "realistic" solution, fuck this movie!
>>150541359It was literally the exact same message but done worse.
>>150541414>People are getting killed for what they look like, where they're born, there's people getting fucking raped and getting funded by the governments of the world, AND THIS FUCKING MOVIE IS SAYING, "THERES NO VILLAINS IN THE REAL WORLD!?"That's not really contradictory tho, morality in the real world is not black and white like it tends to be in fiction. Real ghouls like Ted Bundy exist but much larger atrocities have been committed by much more nuanced and complicated people. The banality of evil, and so on.If anything Pixar misses the point in exactly the same way: fiction does not need to be real life. Villains that do villainous things for the sake of villainy are compelling, even if they are objectively a bit silly. Characters can be relatable and even believable without being entirely realistic. Millennials cannot grasp this which is why everything they write is so, so fucking boring and lame.
>>150534677Yes
>>150537042>he needs a youtube reviewer to come to that conclusion
They should make a movie that ends with the family getting split up for some arbitrary reason
>>150541500The problem is that's still evil at the end of the day, especially if the people doing these bad things are trying to justify itThere can be nuance in a situation but that gets thrown out the window as soon as less ambiguous concepts like genocide are applied to what's happening, at the end of the day no one is gonna give a shit if Hitler had a good reason for getting rid of the Jews in Germany because what he did escalated things to what they were and a lot of innocents were lost because of him. Regardless of inner complications he'll always be seen as a villain because what he and the Nazis ended up doing was unequivocally evilYou can't really go "Wait there's more to it than that!" once you've crossed a certain line of morality
>>150534677It's not being made because the team wanted a sequel. It's being made because Disney can't write a good story to save their asses, and are trying to cash in on nostalgia to save their investments.So yes, it's a bad sign. Enjoy the ride cause it's never getting better
>>150534677>What did Brad Bird do to deserve thisTomorrowland
>>150534875What is the mousebucks to USD conversion rate because $0.83 a post is big money for shilling and I want inEven if its only usable at Disney I can still buy tickets or rare merch and resell it
>>150535196>Screenslaver was shit compared to Syndromewho was himself a last minute replacement for the actual villain because the studio dropped the entire subplot about Helen's flight instructor being killed off, about Bob & Helen breaking a rule of their witness protection program by breeding at all never mind 3 times, and that Syndrome was supposed to be killed off in the first act pretty much the same way he was in the climax as a joke villaintl;dr: Bird's original treatment wasn't a G rated movie and Disney told him to rewrite it into something for idiots
>>150535282With his speed, if Dash gets Sandwiched between them its because he WANTS to get between themAlso killing villians was shown to be acceptable as in Gamma Jacks interview from the DVD said its hard to kill the villians when they are cute and theres a connection.I would imagine that irl supers are expected to kill villains and not let them cause billions in damages again.
>>150535282>as talk of making them illegal again comes backconsidering the first time they completely gloased over how the villains somehow chose to comply with this just like in Watchmen, the homework Bird copied, I think you'd be obligated this time to explain how the government was able to enforce it then much less now>well it's implied–Nothing was, we just didn't get enough time to think about it. Repeat the trick and it's gonna come up.
>>150535876goodCoach sucked
>>150539259>Bird is a really good director and this has been describes as a passion projectSo was 1906Where is it
>>150540328>Incest between supers should be legalized, as there's few of themOnly because too many of them wore capes
>>150541041>It took them like a decade to make the sequelIt took them a decade to package the project to the preproduction stage. The amount of time to produce it was probably less than the original given all the workflow streamlining and no particular urge to show off a new tech like fabric or hair this time. You don't see a renderer blooper reel on the extras for I2 this time. That, and there wasn't nearly as much interference with the story from the suits (the only major change was Deavor's villain sibling Nelson being changed to Evelyn, a literal swap between Electrix and whatever superhero Evelyn was initially designed to be in Team Losers). If anything I3 will be even more direct and require the least studio fuckery. >but it'll SUCKIt'll have more Edna Mode doing her diva act and people eat that shit up. If they're smart they'll address the matter of Jack-Jack being the reason supers aren't supposed to breed with each other. The real challenge is going to be whether Bird has the brains to try to explain the existence of supers and tie that to the plot (he doesn't).
>>150534677>>150534836>>150537415Brad Bird is still writing it though, so any story related problems this movie has will still be 100% on him. If you wanna complain the movie's action is lamer than 2 and the OG, fair enough, but he's not touching the script.
>>150543132>I would imagine that irl supers are expected to kill villains and not let them cause billions in damages again.it is literally a plot point at the beginning of i2 that Rick Dicker, their government handler, tells them that supers cause more destruction fighting villains than the cost of insurance simply covering the losses the villains incur. And I do mean plot point, it's his argument for them not fighting villains. If you hadn't noticed, none of the villains are genocidal maniacs, they're greedy idiots.
>>150537415>I don't get why Pixar keeps handing this guy projects when he keeps failing.Remember that "gamer girl go home" episode of Law & Order SVU? Its sole writing credit was a story researcher who had no prior or subsequent screenwriting credits. This is a roundabout way of saying "someone else wrote the script who couldn't formally be credited either because they didn't want the credit, union rules prevented it, or other". Spielberg didn't actually direct most of "Ready Player One." Chances are decent someone else will do the bulk of direction on i3 while Sohn is pretending to direct it.
>>150537309>"Too late! 15 years too late."
>>150534677I bet they're getting divorced.
Dash gets an ipad.
>>150534677Does it really matter when Bird himself directed Incredibles 2 and it ended up being completely mediocre and forgettable?
>>150543112So who the fuck was the main villain supposed to be?
>>150545526https://the-incredibles.fandom.com/wiki/Xerekhttps://disney.fandom.com/wiki/XerekSome old fart who kept himself alive by stealing people's youth, and former flame of Helen.
>>150534821FPBP
>>150543487For most supervillians it would all be a bank robbery that would be over before the heroes can even arriveI would also imagine that speedsters are very limited in numbers so the few towns worldwide they can exist in are protected but everything else is just a boom and run after grabbing a few bags knowing they can just do it again whenever they want.>>150545626i would be surprised if they didn't end up finally using him then reveal he was also syndromes father
>>150535858UP is a good 10 minute Pixar short, followed by a shitty 80 minute movie.
>>150545626that sounds lame
>>150545626Could've been good for the second film
>>150534677idk could be cool
>>150543249No, the cape thing is a cover-up for the Syndrome assassinations:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HUVoh2O1zyA
>>150547990Shut up, Zowl wannabe.
>>150541407>incredibles but its a gorefestFuck it, why not? Heroes may have been killing machines back in the day if Gama Jack is anything to go by
>>150543719This.Or kill Bob off in the first act as Helen becomes a lesbian. It's more believable than spending her life getting married to a fat ugly slob.
