>waaaaah my father overcame his social status as an imp and became rich and powerful waaaaaaaagh Why is this nigga such a little bitch? Isn’t he a fucking DEMON??
>>150542023If he's going to be a little bitch, then I'm going to cuddle and kiss him like a little bitch.
>>150542023Hard to feel sorry for fire toads who regularly kill humans.
>>150542034Shrek won
>>150542081This. I have no sympathy for any of them.
>>150542023The human mafia father he defended was rich and powerful though. The difference was caring about his kid.
>>150542139He murdered the man’s son purely out of jealousy lmao
>>150542023If my father had killed my mother, I'd be upset as well. That's one personal detail hard to forget.
>>150542484Over her not wanting him to grow up to murder for the family business but then he became a murderer for hire anyways...
the imps and hellhounds seem more like custodians for sinners than actually being it. they're not even edgy enough to be a tiefling.speaking of which, the Hellaverse are more like discount yugoloths than anything else>>150542048Not if I do it first, you son of a bitch
>>150542484Then you'd probably hate The King
>>150542484This is something that’s hard to overlook but I never see it mention Moxxie is still a murderer, he just has a different boss. Why is that more noble than a mob job?
>>150542549How would he fare in hell?
>>150542751>>150542523i think theres some cognitive dissonance with him as a character, but its never brought upthe guy ran away from his dad so he wouldnt have to work as a killer, only to get hired by blitzo and work as a killer for him, insteadmaybe he has fewer moral quandaries about killing humans over his own fellow hellspawn?
>>150542023> Isn’t he a fucking DEMON??Only when it comes to killing straight white men. Straight white men you can kill and laugh about it. If they're gay you have to cry and spare them though.
>>150542853Blitzo?Raped.Striker?Raped.Stolas?Double raped.Moxxie?Quintuple raped.Asmodeus, Satan, and Mammon?Raped.Lucifer and Alastor?Oh you better believe they're raped. There's a new king dick in town, and Hell isn't safe.
>>150542913What gay character did he spare anon
>>150542023I wonder if reincarnation is a unknown fact on this...everytime an exorcist kills a sinner, they get a factory reset and the soul in question is either sent back to earth as a newborn soul into any creature or stays in hell to give life to hellborns...maybe if the conditions are right they become heavenborns.I imagine demons and imps used to be mindless and souless evil pieces of shit like in the bible but as the extermination took places, hellborns got a soul.
>>150542900>>150542751>>150542523Could be a point of self-loathing and why he's so meek around everybody/a gun user.
>>150542922The gay couple in the Christmas short
>>150542922Not him but Blitzo spared the homo couple during that Christmas episode.
>>150542916>Stolas?>Double raped.the faggot would probably enjoy it
>>150542549>>150542853>>150542916hell would get a new booty warrior
>>150542944>probablyI've raped him several times and can confirm he does.
>>150542900>maybe he has fewer moral quandaries about killing humans over his own fellow hellspawn?Why wouldn't he? Humans who die just end up in Hell or Heaven, demons who die are gone for good, or at least that's what everyone in Hell thinks since they don't know what happened to Rizz Lord Pentious yet.
>>150542944>>150542966that kind of talk is what brought mpreg into the internet.
>>150542937>>150542900He has always been shown to be the most hesitant of the bunch when it comes to their work, but it’s very grating and weird how he insists on waving around his personal morality like he’s above Crim
>>150542987With all the fucked up degeneracy in hell it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that Stolas could lay an egg containing a Goetia/Human hybrid.
>>150542997To be fair this show is very wishywashy with moralityBy feeling bad sometimes about killing people Moxxie is a better person or something
>>150542997Plus his cunt wife killed that one human trying to sell his CD and he didn't say shit.
>>150543023>>150543020>>150542997moxxie is pretty much a limp wristed weakling who goes along with everyone else due to peer pressureeven loona was seriously close to sparing that one human she met and probably would have if he hadnt panicked moxxie, on the other hand, is a complete pushover, his wife is clearly the one wearing the pants in the relationship
>>150542997Indeed. But as >>150543020 pointed out the morality presented in the show is all over the place. Though it's supposed to be 'Hell is other people' so make of that what you will.
>>150543118>Though it's supposed to be 'Hell is other people' so make of that what you will.Like hell it is. They just straight up act like hell is good and the problem is with the evil chuds in heaven.
>>150542023>Hes a mobster. Doesn't this guy kill innocent people?
>>150542900Loo loo land episode disproved this, he didn't give a shit about having to kill other imps when protecting Stolas.
>>150543136>Doesn't this guy kill innocent people?his dad doesnt go to earth, so he only ices other demons, ergo he is a good guy
>>150543135There are villains in Hell too to be fair. You can hardly blame Valentino on Heaven
>>150543135Yeah, that's the disconnect.But it's consistent that a millenial womanchild and the characters within her show would paint the underworld as a great place to get back at their parents.
>>150543160And sexier.
>>150543159well, i guess it dependskilling a guy who tried to fuck with you? a-OKgoing out of your way to hunt down and kill somone you never knew simply because you are getting paid for it? thats a bit more icky
>>150543172The difference is that Valentino is one of those "villains" that are made solely for women to like and write their shitty fanfics about. He's a fetish villain.
>it’s ok for Moxxie to kill a guy because he’s jealous over his relationship with his father >its not ok for Adam to kill demons because he’s racist Is Viv saying emotional trauma justifies crimes? Interesting proposal !
>>150543200>Is Viv saying emotional trauma justifies crimes? And being gay, of course. That also justifies anything and everything.
>>150543200Women creators with Daddy issues, not even once
>>150543200>woman puts feelings first above all else.It tracks.
>>150543007>With all the fucked up degeneracy in hell it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that Stolas could lay an egg containing a Goetia/Human hybrid.maybe a war between hell and heaven is necessary to humble everybody.
>>150543256Through dick, unity.
>>150543278one dick to rule them all...
>>150543306And in their orifice fill them.
>>150543200HB is one of those shows where characters are expected to be judged not from their actions but from their personalities. For example, it's perfectly okay for Moxxie to murder humans because he's a "nice guy," but if Stella does anything it's automatically bad, because she's a bitch.
>>150542034This is either OP posting this every thread or a guy who lives on /co/
>>150543322one dick to put inside...and fill them in the darkness...
>>150543398we have a new leah and this one has the gifts of patience and dilligence.
>>150542900Its cause hed rather kill humans than other hell born and it seems that most humans wind up in hell anyway
well, this threads conversation has veered off fast
>>150543160I was referring to the guy saying this but never knew that . The creator of this show deadass cant make a likable character without having to bend the script for it.
He just needs to get raped and gaped like all imps should.
>>150543506Many are saying this
>>150543506>>150543536his wife already gapes him on a daily basis
>>150543200>>150543230>>150543237>>150543242>>150543341You guys are forgetting that their job is to kill people for money and it was only seeing himself in the human guy and feeling bad for him that made him decide to spare him originally, then the guy ends up being a cunt meanwhile his dad is willing to die to protect him, so moxxie basically says "fuck this and fuck you" and does what his mission required to begin with. How do you all miss stuff like this?
>>150542023>Anon get's confronted with anyone have a weak moment>"UMMM, CRINGE MUCH"Did it strike a nerve?
>>150543565So we must gape her before we gape him. Because behind every gaped man there is a woman.
>>150543565It's clearly not enough
>>150543566What even is your point anon? You can't have one person be "bad and evil" for being a murderer, than have someone else do the exact opposite but be excused because he's uhh..got trauma or something.
>>150543566Okay, sure. And how does that disprove what I said here? >>150543341 Keep in mind that I was speaking more broadly, whereas you're using a very specific example.
>>150543470>leahQRD?
>>150542163He murdered him because he was a slimy little retard who completely wasted the help and caring father he was given.
>>150542023>>150542900maybe thats the thing, the imp are messed up for real I mean look at the life they lead in the show.living in hell all your fucking life and seen as a lesser being plus the enviroment they lived in would of course make anyone like him a messed up being.
>>150543657>>150543659Moxxie is a mercenary who was only gonna spare the guy cause he thought he was like a human version of his old self: mafia son being drafted into the life and bullied by his dad, then it turns out the son is more money and power hungry than his dad, cause his dad is willing to die to save his family meanwhile the son is happy about his dad's death warrant cause he wants to take over
>>150543827its a long story but in nutshell it is a motherfucker who hates mlp and compares it to barney.and had been going at it for more than a decade at it.
>>150543915But the show doesn't act like he's a mercenary, it acts like he's some cutesy uwu niceboy solely because he's a faggot who gets pegged.
Anyone have a link to the audio version of this?
>>150543915...Okay, but the show still insists that I feel sorry for a murderer on the basis that he's a pansy-ass tofu boy. It's the same deal with Angel Dust and Valentino. Both are wretched individuals, but Viv expects me to feel sorry for the former because he gets smacked around some by the latter. Boo-fucking-hoo.If you're having difficulty comprehending this, you might have autism. No - judging from the Loona webm you posted earlier, I have no doubt you're on the spectrum.
Never, ever cry like a bitch in front of your lady.
>>150544168I don't but I'm pretty sure it uses the audio from ugly americans
>>150542023the Nortubel of vivzie
>>150543200we see the hellborn side in hb while we see the sinner side in hh moxie would've probably agreed with adamit seems like most hellborns hate sinners
Your first problem is taking these characters seriously. They are all bad people, who kill people for MONEY regardless of how bad the people are or not.
>>150544848>Your first problem is taking these characters seriously.This wouldn't be happening if the show itself didn't expect us to do so, from S2 onward.
>>150542023they kill innocents for moneyThe entire of IMP deserves the worst thing for them Like Viv wants to play moralist but these cunts deserve the rope.
>>150542034100% OP look at the time it's exactly 1 min from the op, you ain't fooling anyone anymore niggardly this joke is dead
>>150545368Its pure bad writing that NONE of their victims who become sinners chase after Blitzo's crew while in Hell. The only victims of IMP who have shown up again in the series are conveniently the ones who who like Hell like the Satanist woman from the first episode and that stupid retarded monster demon fangirl. But anyone else who would logically hate Blitzo? Conveniently they never show up again. And come on Blitzo publicly advertises his business without shame. It's not just angry sinners who would be hunting him down to kill him and his coworkers but also Satan should have closed Blitzo's company after it was proven he was operating without permission. The main characters are protected from consequences.
>>150544527Gratitude, anon. Looks like I’ll have to try again in the next thread.
>>150543136Moxxie is suppose to be against killing innocent people but some episodes have him being involved in the slaughter of dozens of them and not giving two shits about it. Narrative consistency isn't a strong suit for Helluva Boss.
>>150545601i have said this before and i will say it again, every single character in this show is a scumbag, barring octaviathe show should end with all of them getting their comeuppance in the end, but sadly it wont because vivzie is a hack
>>150545654This.They're fuckable, but also murderable.
>>150545654Blitzo is the main source of all the scumminess though. Killing him would improve everything
>>150545654Stolas biggest mistake was to not divorce sooner than later Also Octavia should focus on killing Blitzo and moving with her dad to a safer place. Thats the best ending for them.
>>150545751>Blitzo is the main source of all the scumminess thoughBoth him and his butt buddy are equally as shitty, just in different waysOne is a murderous psychopath who'd kill you for 20$ and the other is a self absorbed narcissist and liar, both of them should die in the end>>150545741I dont think they will kill her off, thats a bit too much, especially since she is a minor, but yeah they will make her come around while also making it appear as if though she was in the wrong the whole time for "not understanding" the pain her poor little daddy went through for HER sake, completely disregarding the fact that he was in complete control of his life once octavia hatched and could have simply told stella to eat a dick
>>150545873Stolas choosing to be in a relationship with Blitzo and the ramifications of their relationship is Stolas' fault, but without being manipulated by Blitzo it would have never happened. It takes two to cheat, but Blitzo's motives and actions are far worse and the sole cause of Stolas' moral failure
>>150545941>without being manipulated by Blitzo it would have never happenedAnon, he didnt even really need to "manipulate" him, the guy is hopelessly addicted to that imp dick and was thirsting for it even before they met againObviously shitzo is an irredeemable piece of refuse, but the guy cant be blamed entirely for everythingThey are both terrible people, hell, stolas might be even more manipulative, the guy gaslights as easily as he sucks dickYou can see at the end how he tries every trick in the book to get octavia to stay with him, only really telling her that he "loves her" at the very end when he realizes he might actually lose her, but it failsI dont recall him actually apologizing at any one point, though
>>150542023>Isn’t he a fucking DEMON??No. He's a Homestuck troll. Which is to say, a mundane human with funky colored skin and horns, who doesn't behave like anything other than a mundane human.
>>150546041And his farts don't make a sound anymore.
Everyone in Helluva Boss are assholes and worse (except for Octavia), but i cant stand Blitzo and Stolas (-10000 sympathy fro them). Im fucking tired of those retarded faggots, they ruin everything (to other characters and to the serie); and now im sure they will ruin Hazbin Hotel with the shitty crossover idea. I tell you, Helluva Boss will parasite Hazbin Hotel as shit and these 2 will be the main reason of the ruin of the little good things it has.
>>150546878Hazbin Hotel is already shit, there's not much for helluva boss to destroy.
>>150546898This. Helluva Boss at least got a good pilot and first season. Hazbin only has a pilot to its name, the majority of which was written by KenDraws. The rest is dogshit.
I think the comedy in Hazbin is better than in Helluva and the characters are more enjoyable.And the story is more complex than "Love me Blitz" "No Stolas, i dont love you" "Why do you fail me so often dad?!?!" "I dont love you Blitzo" "I love you Stolas" "I love you too Blitzy"Both shows are meh, but Hazbin is 1 or 2 steps above Helluva.
>>150542751You kill the family members of others, not your own
>>150546026Blitzo has been lying to and manipulating Stolas since they first met. Everything was a ploy to get something out of Stolas. It doesn't make Stolas innocent but it wouldn't have happened without Blitzo always being a piece of shit
>>150546898This is true. Helluva Boss took until Season 2 for people to realize its a terribly written show as such not good. Hazbin Hotel on the other hand people were criticizing its premise as early as the pilot not even the Season 1 premiere and Hazbin Hotel ruined itself with "brilliant" ideas like Heaven is Dumb so much that they don't know about how good human souls reach Heaven. That broke Hazbin Hotel irreparably from Season 1.Viv thinks that she's riding high but nah she's crashing and burning she just doesn't realize it. Viv can brag about how she got the number of seasons necessary to tell her story but it won't matter if people generally think its trash that's not worth the waste of time.And speaking of Viv and trash no way Homestuck is a success. That is a failure from the get go. I don't see how that garbage will become the darling success that will beat modern things like Digital Circus, it won't.
>>150542048>>150542539Ladies, ladies, take your time. I'll be fucking Millie in the meanwhile.
>>150548044>And speaking of Viv and trash no way Homestuck is a success.It will beIt's not looking to beat out modern indie stuffIt's trying to ride nostalgia for old fans, get the stragglers that are still reading beyond canon, and get new people who have FOMA into it
>>150548137If vivzie and brandon wanted to write an actually interesting story, they would explore the ramifications of this, its clearly an incredibly toxic relationship built on lies, deceit, obsession and manipulation, there is no way in hell such a pairing would last IRL for more than a few monthsBut alas, they are both dumb niggers, ones a fujo and the other an unironic faggot who probably self inserts as shitzo, so theres no way in hell this story doesnt have a "happy" ending
>>150548137That wouldn't be a "twist" at all. Just Stolas coming to his senses and realizing what their relationship truly is.
>>150542023They gotta make him feel and talk about fatherhood before he knows he's gonna be a father
