>Heh, nothing personal kidSeriously though - what idiot thought it was a good idea to adapt the Dark Phoenix storyline if at all? Much less twice, even after the first attempt nearly destroyed the Foxmen franchise entirely?It's just so bizarre of a creative choice. There are some stories from the comic books that are flat out unadaptable into a cinematic medium, and trying to force it just alienates movie goers and leads to a shitshow of a movie (X-3, Dark Phoenix), so why did Fox sign off on it?It was such a disappointing end to the X-men movies, especially after such highs like DoFP and Logan
>>150549353>There are some stories from the comic books that are flat out unadaptable into a cinematic mediumThe problem is that Simon Kinberg and Fox didn’t even make an attempt to do it right when making Last Stand (Kinberg wrote it) or Dark Phoenix. The only similarities the movies share with that comic arc is Jean Grey goes bad and dies.
>Seriously though - what idiot thought it was a good idea to adapt the Dark Phoenix story line if at all?I mean, I can see the logic. Dark Phoenix is a classic X-Men story. Fox's problem was that they wanted a "grounded" X-Men universe, which is opposite of Dark Phoenix. Dark Phoenix is cosmic X-Men. Which was preceded by a whole other cosmic X-Men story that laid the groundwork for DP (The Phoenix Saga).I think you could do a "grounded" Dark Phoenix story, but X-Men 3 was fucked by being "the Wolverine show", having a non-existent Cyclops, Brett Ratner as the director, and overbearing Fox producers.
>>150549353>Seriously though - what idiot thought it was a good idea to adapt the Dark Phoenix storyline if at all?>X-Men has only two stories:>1: The Xavier vs Magneto rivalry, rival mutant factions, evil human bigots, MUH METAPHOR>2: The Dark Phoenix SagaThis seems to be their actual thought process, and every other movie Fox made was built around story 1, so the tried story 2 twice as well. And to be fair to them, story 1 is literally all a vocal majority of fans want to see from X-Men at all ever.>Much less twice, even after the first attempt nearly destroyed the Foxmen franchise entirely?They weren't really thinking 'franchise', they were thinking 'trilogy' with no firm plans for anything afterwards, that's why that movie kills off a number of important characters and comes across as a finale for the series, but leaving the door open for possible sequels. Keep in mind that before the MCU started, no superhero movie series had ever lasted more than 3-4 movies before just rebooting.Also, this attempt at Dark Phoenix was conceived as being split over two movies, and IIRC they were already filming when Disney bought Fox's library of properties and Dark Phoenix became something they had to finish making quickly and release as soon as possible just to get it out the door before the rights moved from Fox to Disney.
>>150550614The first iteration of Dark Phoenix was far closer to the comics. It was a two-parter which even included the Xi'ar (and Jessica Chastain's character was originally Lilandra) until the Disney buyout forced them to remove a lot of stuff (at some point the Xi'ar were changed to the Skrulls, only for the latter to be also pulled out due to Disney using them in Captain Marvel), and pressure from Fox executives to reduce the story to only one film.
>>150549353It's not unadaptable at all. It would be a great epic space opera that could be spread across several movies. Unfortunately somebody at some point decided that any normie iteration of X-Men can ONLY be Racism Metaphor. Every movie is just 'Nazi Bad' whereas in the comics that message was alongside epic sci-fi and fantasy genre concepts.
>>150549353The '90s animated series did it well; they should take cues from that.
>>150549353lol that’s not even the worst part. Both adaptations were written by the same fucking guy (and he directed the last one which in so many ways is the worst one)
