Why didn't they bring it back?is WB retarded?
You know if they bring it back at this point, it'd be done horribly. Even that one pitch for a movie a little while ago clearly showed the intention was just: "Spider-Verse, but DC."
>>150549991There were the comics both the tie ins, digital comics for it and Justice League Beyond, and the physical comics that have been coming out every once in a while through the years. There's the JLU episodes. There's the anniversary short. There's the suit prototype and Powers' mother/grandmother in Synders' run. It's been getting stuff here and there. As for an actual show WB hasn't been doing all that much when it comes to animated action shows. Maybe Gunn will greenlight something.
>>150549991The comic runs based on the concept they've tried pushing in the mainline don't seem to catch on. Even White Knight did a spin on it & that just series just sorta fizzled out after the first sequel.
>>150549991Because Inque is the only one of Terry's enemies who isn't either dead, worse than dead, or a complete scrub.
>>150549991>every show needs to go on for ever and ever and ever and ever and never endKill self.
Only the movie and JLU cameos were any good though
>>150549991>is WB retarded?Yes.
>>150549991>Barbara marries a black guyThis really is a dark future
>>150550015I hate those concepts so much, people really think everything is style over substance nowadays. It doesn't even look like Neo-Gotham, all that neon shit and the cars still have tires.What I love about Neo-Gotham is that, while it's very Akira-inspired, it's very much it's own thing, like it's a much taller city built on top of Gotham, you barely see the ground, even parks, school and stuff look like they're elevated, and the colors they used helped piece it all together.I'm not particularly fond of anything Batman Beyond-related that has come out since the show ended except for the JLU Prologue.
>is WB retarded?Yes>>150550136There's some, just bring back Spellbinder or Willie Watts or Shriek, dredge Blight out of the oceanYou could have more animal mutants or government experiments like the Terrific Trio or robotsOr just straight up reuse villains who died by doing a reboot, who cares at this point>>150553032To me it almost felt like the sprawl of Metropolis got so big it consumed Gotham, but the spirit (or maybe curse) of the place was still GothamIt's hard to have any confidence in Beyond projects when so many people miss the aesthetic
>>150553115>To me it almost felt like the sprawl of Metropolis got so big it consumed Gotham, but the spirit (or maybe curse) of the place was still GothamYeah, I like this, never thought about it this way.>It's hard to have any confidence in Beyond projects when so many people miss the aestheticThat's why I think it never works as well, I also despise the way people portray the suit, Terry's suit looks best when it's very shape based instead of completely built on top of his anatomy. Of all the modern artists I think only Samnee and Mora gets it, they know their way around shapes and silhouettes.
>>150553276Honestly I don't envy artists the task of making Terry's suit look good outside the original series, it was perfected from the get-go, or at least is super hard to fit into any other art style (though Mora does a pretty good job at it)Especially when it comes to 3D, it almost feels like artists don't even try, either it's "he's a futuristic Batman? Okay have some more armor" or "it's skin tight, right? So it's textured like any other skintight material"Someone will get it, one day. Even if they have to build the entire art style around the suit to get the suit right, someone will figure it out
>>150549991I think DC has always had a love / hate relationship with Batman Beyond because it doesn't fit with their vision for what Batman's future is like. Every time they've tried to do a standalone Batman Beyond comic book (or any adaptation for that matter) that isn't a straight up continuation of the show with Bruce Timm style art, they royally fuck over the story and lore to try and make it fit in with the current modern comics, whether it's making Terry get trained by Tim Drake instead of Bruce Wayne or even getting rid of Terry completely.One of the most egregious examples was the abandoned Batman: Beyond Arkham video game that eventually got canceled and we got Suicide Squad instead. Their first and worst sin was that you were going to play as Damien Wayne wearing the black and red costume instead of Terry McGinnis, and then there was the can of worms where they couldn't stick to the futuristic Batman design. There are so many things specific to Terry's costume where if you start changing things it looks like a mess. Firstly there's the colors, then the mask has to cover his entire face, it has to have retractable wings and no cape, and Terry is leaner and more agile looking than Bruce.What they were doing to Batman Beyond makes me feel like they deserved Suicide Squad.
>>150553358>I think DC has always had a love / hate relationship with Batman BeyondThey don't like the idea of Bruce Wayne ever not being Batman, so their adaptations pretty much do all they can to downplay Terry as just Bruce's proxy and not his trained successor, while pushing the original Bat-cast as being more important to everything.
>>150553115Face it, the show's Neo-Gotham is too deeply established as a place where the worst criminal threats are children's TV-safe posers who are as likely to just skulk at arcades as they are to snatch purses.
>>150553358This was a really weird idea for sure, what really bothers me is them not introducing Terry in this. Beyond Gotham is Terry's turf, or at least should be, and since Damian was never even mentioned in the Arkhamverse why bother giving him an introduction here?Also didn't Talia die in Arkham City? Damian should've reached Bruce at some point in Arkham Knight for that work, it would be convoluted mess, but the plot was already a mess anyway, why not throw in another layer of drama since Ra's also dies in the DLC?
>>150553486Timm and Dini clearly were not expecting a Season 2, which is why Season 2 and 3 are far more sanitized and exec-friendly compared to how brutal Season 1 could get.
>>150553527>Damian was never even mentioned in the Arkhamverse why bother giving him an introduction here?Because Damian is Bruce's biological son, and thus the TRUE and HONEST future Batman. Terry is an abomination born of Ultra Cucking.>Also didn't Talia die in Arkham City?Body disappears if you go back. Lazarus Pits. Retard.
>>1505535692 and 3 still happened.
>>150553589Unfortunately.
>>150553527The Arkham devs, especially after they stopped consulting Dini, didn't seem particularly attached to the source material and just seemed to see the mantles as more of a thing for the supporting characters than the characters behind them. Which is why we get things like Tim being. a buzzcut , muscular 30 year old MMA fighter who marries Babs, because Batgirl and Robin have a relationship right? But which Robin doesn't matter. Azrael is a mix of Michael Lane's backstory and JPV's aspects too, largely leaning into Lane because he was the most recent at the time. So unfgortunately it's par for the course that they look at Beyond and only take it for "future Batman" and not care about which Batman it is.
>>150553486I'd say it's about half posers, half old Gotham charm, and depending on what trajectory you want Batman Beyond Beyond to go it could probably get a lot worseAnd hell even the posers are just waiting for the right motivation, the Deedees straight up killed Terry when Chronos did his thing>>150553569Even S2 had its moments>Splicers>Earth Mover>Lost Soul>Rats>Mind Games>Last Resort>Final Cut>Sneak Peek>April MoonKobra and S3 just felt like they'd given up
>>150553662If we're talking a fresh Beyond adaptation, a fresh continuity? Yeah, I could see the Jokerz being turned into credible Clockwork Orange gangs.
>>150553656Yeah, that makes more sense to me, instead of the absolute asshole that replied before you.
>>150553662>the Deedees straight up killed Terry when Chronos did his thingTo be fair, he upgraded them into becoming an army of clones and wore Terry down on attrition.
>>150553708I think it'd be fun to do a variety of different Jokerz sects, since you have all those various interpretations to work with, both due to Joker being inconsistent himself and the passage of time resulting in Chinese whispers-levels of misunderstandingsSo you'd have some groups doing goofy, practically harmless shit and occasionally they'd clash with not just Batman and the cops but also the more psychotic Jokerz that want blood and mayhemI'd like more gangs in general but that's more to do with fleshing out the Beyond setting more generally, focusing on just the Jokerz gang is fine for a short run (sort of like how Powers takes the megacorp villain slot when there could be more)>>150553735I meant more that they actually killed him rather than just incapacitated him, the Deedees are actually psychos at timesThere was one comic where they almost suicide bombed Batman, too, and were only prevented because the bombs got disabled, or something like that (it has been a while since I read it)
>>150553871>implying the goofy posers wouldn't immediately get slaughtered by serious criminals
>>150553871I mostly remember one comic where the girls were on house arrest and were trying to sneak out, but Nana Harley already knew their tricks and re-rigged the window alarm to go off when they thought they disabled it.
>>150552255I came to post this
>>150553922The non-serious groups would get absorbed, willingly or not, into the serious groups, but it'd take time, the goofs would be larger at the start because without Batman there wasn't much reason to be that vicious, which changes when Terry gets on the sceneBut then you'd also have a few un-serious groups turn their penchants for gags and whackiness into something more dangerous, you'd have the "artists" who make a show of everything that would probably be even more dangerous than the other guysLike sure you've put on the face paint and you've got a sharp knife and shotgun, but your competition is the guy with cyberpunk chemical weapons hidden in pies and autonomous jack-in-the-box death dronesBasically it'd be a problem that mutates fast, and horribly
>>150553589Basically, they did Season 1 with minimal restrictions and went all-out thinking that would be it, then they got renewed and the execs started cracking down harder. They tried to keep up the original tone in S2, but S3 was where they just gave up.
>>150554981Haven't seen BB since I was a kid, but did season 1 have any serious criminals or serious non-Blight or -Inque supervillains?
>>150549991It's got really really stupid as he'll story ideas that retroactively ruin BTAS and JLU.And every one knows it's a ripoff of Spiderman 2099 now.
>>150553032That’s what I didn’t like about Nueva York in Spider-Verse. It wasn’t fucking cyber punk it was just a generic future city. If you’re going to adapt a cyberpunk, or cyberpunk inspired character, have some balls and actually do it
>>150549991Never forget they turned down a spiderverse style 3d movie of him and made the harley quinn fart fetish book instead
>>150558326Because it would literally expose it as a cheap Spiderman 2099 ripoff and people would ask about the Barbara batman relationship and other stuff.Will also make people ask about static shock.
We could have had a arkham batman beyond game, but fate had different plans. Still, i liked arkham knight, the gameplay was good.
>>150549991We at least got thishttps://youtu.be/z65aq1EVGhs?si=06VxZG23ZCHIW7iX
>>150558356No it wouldn't, It's not like they INVENTED that art style, It'd only be a ripoff if they did something retarded like make it about a batman multiverse
>>150558405Darwyn Cooke was too good for this shitty world.
>>150549991Because Justice League mogged it in toys sales, unfortunately, and the Beyond comics never really caught on.
>>150558597Fucking toy sales such a stupid way to measure an action cartoons success
>>150559551OkayIt also had low ratings and retroactively made the more popular cartoons worse by existing.
>>150559551not from the perspective of the businessfags actually funding the shows, they didn't give a shit about the actual cartoon itself, only if it they sold a lot of toys, as they were pretty much guaranteed to make a lot more money on toy sales than from syndication viewership or VHS/DVD, especially with the corners they were cutting.todd mcfarlane actually talks about this a lot, but one of the ways they made sure they made a shitton on toys was by reducing the articulation points. according to him, the standard was 5 points of articulation - moving the neck back and forth, and the legs and arms up and down. i actually had a lot of the DCAU toys as a kid, and you know how many articulation points they had? fucking 4. you couldn't even move their heads.
>>150559591it received generally positive ratings though? you can just say you don't like it instead of lying about data sets.
>>150559635Prove it.
>>150559693..????? It won two daytime emmies out of the four it was nominated for and two annie awards out of the five it was nominated for, and all of that was before the movie. It was aired consistently in a primetime slot until it was moved to make room for Justice League towards the end of its runnothing I said is new or controversial nigger, why can't you just admit you don't like something
>>150559976Don't argue with him, he's just seething.
>>150559606>you couldn’t even move their heads.Wow that’s actually bullshit
Would it be controversial to say Terry x Inque?
>>150562066>ywn have your body invaded and puppeted by evil woman waifuwhy even live?
>>150562799I swear that’s a fic someone wrote; Inque basically Venom-ing Terry
>>150562066See now we’re getting into the good shit
>>150562799>tries this on plasrip inque
>>150563520Basically the one highlight of any Batman Beyond thread is all the fun with Inque.
>>150549991I hope monkey paw curls.Gunn will greenlight the worst modernization and deconstruction of Batman Beyond and Terry Mcginnis ever made.
>>150549991Please move on with your life instead of giving studios an excuse to rape more cartoons I liked as a kid.
>>150563257>Batman Beyond: Terry Gets INQUEDnot quite the same but this was kino
>>150563564Share with me your nightmare scenario.
>>150549991I honestly don't think Beyond was all that great. Feels too much like Spider-Man without being a good Spider-Man show either. I understand that resembling Spider-Man was the point, but it doesn't really tap into the same vibes that other Spider-Man inspired shows do, and Beyond is so far removed from the concept of Batman that you genuinely wonder what is is people like about it so much other than the atmosphere.
>>150564693Please stop parroting your favorite retarded e-celeb.
You think future Bruce warned his younger self about what happens to Tim during the JLU crossover?
>>150562066Glad someone did>>150564361For a fic that was mostly absurd fetish content it surprisingly had some momentsI just wish someone wrote something that was a little more toned down
>>150565346Would be kind of fucked up if he didn't
>>150556241>Willie Watt>Jackson Chappell (the Venom distributor)>Royal Flush Gang>Victor Fries>Terrific Trio (and the government who made them like that)>Spellbinder>Shriek>CurareWhat's your measure for serious?
>>150565436I was more impressed that he didn't let the kids get awayWas a good, darker ending, though my favourite is still from Curare's first episode with the sword going into the car roof, and the hard cut to credits (and then the eventual follow up of her not only surviving but killing every other assassin in her organisation)
>>150565354I know what you mean, yeah, the absolute whiplash between the first chapter and the second could've broken a neck
Bump
>>150565379Curare was fucking sick
>>150553032>>150553115>>150553276DCAU Metropolis was also meant to be a city of tomorrow, so it makes sense that Gotham of tomorrow would end up looking like a darker, more monolithic version of that.
>>150558405>11 years ago
>>150549991Batman Beyond is the bad ending for Batman and only works as a one off story like TDKR (also a Batman bad ending)
>>150567024>Batman Beyond is the bad ending for BatmanExplain. Because the crime situation in Terry's time looks a damn sight better than it did in Bruce's.
>>150567219Not for the DCAU. Rather, it's considered the "bad ending" in the DC comics canon because any future where Bruce Wayne isn't still Batman is considered bad by default.
>>150567340Do they want him as a Mr. Freeze style disembodied head powering a robotic suit or what?Bruce isn't immortal.
>>150567354Pretty much. DC is just downright insistent that only Bruce can ever be Batman and will continue to be Batman until he dies, and even then he'll find ways to keep going.
>>150567408Well, capeboys do tend to go in REEE mode if anything changes.
>>150567354>Bruce isn't immortal.funny enough, this story all but says he is.
>>150567219It's definitely a bad ending for Bruce in that he's largely alienated from the people he knew, two sons he raised. Sure things get better by the end and there's hope, but compared to something like Earth 2 Batman, who had his own tragedies(losing Selina, himself dying in action) but also at least got to retire and have a daughter, or DKR Batman who manages to inspire his own private army. .
>>150558326Yeah, you're right, they definitely made the Harley Quinn fart comic instead of spending $100 mil on a movie, these are comparable productions and cancel one another out.
>>150567340>Not for the DCAU.I'm still skeptical on this, the state of the Justice League doesn't make me think everyone just retired peacefully, something had to have happened that made the ranks so thin that they can barely even manage to intervene in GothamOf course Beyond was made before JL and JLU so they might not have considered the scale of the JL in the DCAU, but it's still in a pretty bad state even if we try to account for the key 7 or so members everyone is familiar with
>>150567408>>150567354>>150567340This is retarded. But the show, rather the JLU epilogue sadly isn't exempt from the logic considering that Terry was retconned into being a CADMUS experiment to clone Bruce.
>>150553032All I know about the fake pitch is that they snuck a Seinfeld reference into it.
>>150569951>so they might not have considered the scale of the JL in the DCAUThat's the simplest answer yeah. They didn't even know the JL roster until they were working on the show, and decisions like Hawkgirl or John being on the team were made for the purpose of it being a show, not just a team appearing in another show, and felt they had to beholden to covering wider demographics.
>>150570274It is the simplest answer but it's also the lame answerI want to know how they retroactively justified the BB League situationThey didn't change things up for Epilogue so there has to be some answer they eventually arrived at, somewhere
>>150570078>>150568765Byrne's Batman/Superman generations also has an immortal Clark and Bruce after 1,000 years.
>>150570361There is that "Near Apocalypse of 2009" mentioned off hand that you might consider a hint at something that broke up the greater JLU.And there's also the fact that legacies aren't really a thing in the DCAU. The JLU has some hinted at being tied to other heroes(Warhawk, who would be confirmed, and Aquagirl) and a Green Lantern, but Terry becoming Batman is treated like something new as if a new person taking a hero's name isn't common. No hints at a Flash legacy mantle, only two Robins, and so on. For all we know many of the heroes just aged out and no one took up their mantles.
>>150570525>For all we know many of the heroes just aged out and no one took up their mantles.That might just be even more depressingSay what you will about how Bruce screwed up his life, at least Gotham could still produce people capable of becoming BatmanA Near Apocalypse is probably a better outcome than the sheer apathy that would result in the Justice League of all things running out of good supers
>>150570629It kinda comes with the DCAU choosing to streamline a lot of things.No sidekicks except Robin means no Titans or Young Justice, and no Flash mantle pass.No JSA means all the heroes we see in the "current" era of JL/JLU are maybe the msot active powered heroes we've seen(we know there were some past heroes like Spy Smasher, but given what a big deal aliens still are in the present day it was probably no-powered guys).Maybe there are other powered heroes but they don't operate under a centralized league.
>>150570762On one hand I really wish the Beyond setting was more fleshed outOn the other hand, considering all the attempts so far, maybe it's better left to fanfiction and headcanon
>>150563546Yeah but it seems we’re a little slow on the uptake so I’m gonna shill my fanfic AU of them. Unfortunately I haven’t written in a while due to personal shit but as of right now the story’s that Terry and Inque are getting married so that’s niceAfter that I plan on doing an actual multi chapter story that’s about them having to deal with Deanna who gets her Mom’s powers and becomes a villain named Blud
>>150571227Is there a link to said story or is it yet to be published
>>150570629I disagree. The apathy of society at the time of Batman Beyond was a central element to its themes, and many of the times we get glimpses at prior superheroes - even if just the ones around Gotham - we see derision for that kind of lifestyle take different forms. The sole exception to that was Static Shock, who himself has no successor or protege. There being some kind of near apocalypse to "explain" it cheapens the most striking answer the show presents from the beginning: the way that human society, developed along its current natural course crushes the human spirit.
>>150571884>the way that human society, developed along its current natural course crushes the human spirit.Maybe it's just me but I would've liked to think that superheroes would improve society somewhatYeah they fill a vital niche of fighting off giant robots and aliens but ultimately if they can't lift the mood then I'm pretty sure something has gone horribly wrong with the premise
>>150572014They did improve society somewhat. That's not the same thing as saving society, or creating a utopia or whatever. Compare Gotham in Batman Beyond to the Gotham of Batman TAS; even after Batman disappeared, the kind of despair staining the streets when Bruce first put on the cowl just didn't exist anymore. Living nightmares that terrorized Gotham for years like the Joker was reduced to an actual joke, a halloween costume for unruly teenagers - at least until the real deal got resurrected for the movie. Seeing Superman stop an otherwise fatal car accident is cool and all, and I'm sure everyone appreciates it when it happens, but is that going to help your brother with his splicing addiction? Does it stop your wife from cheating on you? Does it stop inflation? Does it stop your job from getting replaced with automation? Demanding an apocalypse to justify why the presence of superheroes didn't magically make the world perfect is inane.
>>150572258nyouuuuuugh but i need a gorillion action figures to play with :(
>>150570525>There is that "Near Apocalypse of 2009" mentioned off handAlso something about Beyond's cred system being the result of an erased financial economy because Lex Luthor turned all the world's gold into Kryptonite just to spite Superman.
>>150571248Here’s my AO3 account. I also write some Ben 10 stuff if that’s interesting to you or anyone else in here
>>150572909My dumbass forgot the link and 4chan thinks the link is spam so just look up the account Saber_T00th
>>150572831>Lex Luthor turned all the world's gold into KryptoniteEven the gold in electronics?
>>150553571>Terry is an abomination born of Ultra Cucking.I know I'll get (perhaps rightly) crucified for saying this, but I'll take Ultra Cucking over how they caved to the race grifters in White Knight and made him Asian.
>>150573268How's about neither?
>>150573268The Ultra Cucking wasn't even part of the original series. It was added in the final scene of the JLU crossover epilogue years after the fact. You can watch the entire original anmated series and the movie and pretend it never happened and the story is vastly better for it.
>>150573268That wasn't caving to anything, Sean Murphy is just a super casual and thought Terry was Asian. The guy thought Jason Todd was the first Robin.
>>150558356>implying Static Shock wouldn't sell gang busters after wakanda proved it'll sellOreos love Static Shock
Bumpman Beyond
>>150573312I don't live in the golden timeline, but this shitty one.
>>150572258>Demanding an apocalypse to justify why the presence of superheroes didn't magically make the world perfect is inane.I was tired at the time so maybe my post does warrant a jump that feels this over the top so alrightA world of superheroes just fading away with a whimper just comes off as too cynical for my taste, as opposed to going out with a bang, though again, it's really only something I can bring up in hindsight because that world was a lot smaller before JL/U (and Superman spent a lot of time MIA)The tragedy being that superheroes were stopped and the world slid back into depression, as opposed to the inevitability of humanity's depression being the tragedy itself, comes off as harsh enough that it makes me question if Terry's (and friends') efforts are even worth it, because it's not really a situation that he (or any heroes) can really improveBut again, again, hindsight in considering the tone of the rest of the DCAU, and personal preference, though I guess it's salve knowing eventually it does turn out pretty well anyway, since the Legion of Superheroes show up as early as STASI'm probably just turning things over in my head one too many times, I'm still tired>>150572831That's hilarious
>>150578489>it makes me question if Terry's (and friends') efforts are even worth it, because it's not really a situation that he (or any heroes) can really improveallow me to pose you this hypothetical: if you know that no one will thank you, ever, for holding a door open for them, and that doing so is unlikely to inspire others to do the same, should you stop doing it even if your personal sense of cordiality deems that it is what should be done? My point of view is actually that yours is the most cynical way of looking at it, that you at least imply you think the journey is pointless in contrast to the end of the road. What I've always found striking and appealing about Batman Beyond, and a couple of other superhero stories, is how they frame morality on a more personal level: Terry for example starts off with selfish motivations for being Batman, but by the end, he's doing simply what he views as the right thing even at the expense of his personal life. Static Shock is pretty much the same way and provides Terry with rather similar advice to that, which hits really differently given he's still going out as Static Shock even as old and grey as he is, with the future being how it's like. I feel it robs the people of the setting of their agency if society is the way it is because super heroes went away. I do think though that if the scope of the JLU had been fleshed out at the time the show was written, the depiction probably would have been diffrerent though, and I'm glad for it that the show came first.
>>150578489Doomer>>150578926Bloomer
>>150572831what
>>150579278I wish I could remember the exact context, but I could swear it came from one of those obscure showrunner interviews that got brought up here once.
>>150549991They think one flop means the character is useless. It took them 40 years to try again with Supergirl. Perhaps we’ll get something in the 2030s as they grow increasingly desperate
>>150579674It wasn't even a flop, Justice League was just that much more profitable
>>150578926>if you know that no one will thank you, ever, for holding a door open for them, and that doing so is unlikely to inspire others to do the same, should you stop doing it even if your personal sense of cordiality deems that it is what should be done?A bit of an odd hypothetical, the total lack of possibility suggests something fundamentally off about the world that I'd question where my own sense of cordiality even stemmed from, but from the rest of your post I don't think you'd suggest Beyond was like that, since:>I feel it robs the people of the setting of their agency if society is the way it is because super heroes went away.I interpreted what you were saying as people not having agency because they were basically victims of the human condition, because even with motivation and inspiration in the form of superheroes and the related heightened morality of a superhero reality, humans are forever on a downward slide, from Gotham to Neo Gotham, so knowing that's not what you're going for does clear things upI don't mean to say that the existence of superheroes would be the only thing to keep humanity's morals and morale afloat, just that the sudden shock of the loss of such beacons of hope, as opposed to the slow, almost entirely reasonable death and retirement, would go a bit further in justifying why people ended up apathetic and edgier; it hurt them, more than they could be prepared forBruce isolating himself from his friends and allies has been brought up ad nauseum, but it's important to remember he abandoned Gotham too, even if it wasn't entirely his fault, and I think Neo Gotham is in some ways a response to that sudden and inexplicable (to them, not us) lossI think the world where heroes could get away with peacefully retiring, and ending up with more people following their example instead of less, would look differentBut Gotham is also always cursed so maybe this is all irrelevant anyway>I'm glad for it that the show came first.Agree
>>150553358>One of the most egregious examples was the abandoned Batman: Beyond Arkham video game that eventually got canceled and we got Suicide Squad instead. Their first and worst sin was that you were going to play as Damien Wayne wearing the black and red costume instead of Terry McGinnisThat was Batman Sabbath, it was suppose to be adaptation of Batman 666, not Beyond.
>>150579674If they start by 2039 it'll be period appropriate at least
>>150549991Ratings weakened and the spin-off Zeta series didn't catch on.
>>150581869You know I’m suprised the Jokerz were only the main threat of two episodes iirc. I guess cashing in on the Joker thing would be a little cheap
>>150582621They were designed to be non-villains.For all of Joker's grand seeming, theatrics, and mayhem, his legacy has been reduced to a goofy costume for disgruntled teenagers to wear while they do petty vandalism and hooliganism.No matter how grand Ozymandias would build his monuments, they would ultimately end up eroding into meaningless sand.
>>150582621>>150582768Pretty much. It's why I actually don't like the fact the real Joker came back (sort of) in retrospect, although, I think juxtiposing him against his posers and him scaring the shit out of them when he straght up murders their friend was kino.
The opening kicked ass
>>150549991>Why didn't they bring it back?>is WB retarded?No, they are smart, don't need to bring back something just because some "fan" want it.
>>150549991Yes.
>>150581869>Repeller and Vance, simple but amazing designs>Appear once, zero reason to appear againBeyond plays with my heart too much
>>150567219Batman is alone and crippledDick wants nothing to do with batman or gotham anymore and left him to dieBarbara was effectively made to be unable to have children because of what happened with bruceEverything that happened with TimCatwoman is goneTalia/ras al ghulAll of the villains got worseThe new villains were worseThe Justice League was awful an weakThe whole "BATMAN SPUNK IS MAGIC AND WE HAVE TO EFFECTIVELY STERILIZE AND KEK MEN BY TURNING THEIR SEMEN INTO BATMANS!!" Not even mentioning that half of a childs dna comes from it's mother, so random frumpy sub normal women were basically walking wombs for batman semi clones. That's not even how DNA works and it's now common knowledge that semen slowly changes over time. ....It's not only a lot of horrible endings for BTAS, it retroactively made the entire Timmiverse worse.
>>150572258>Living nightmares that terrorized Gotham for years like the Joker was reduced to an actual joke, a halloween costume for unruly teenagers - at least until the real deal got resurrected for the movie.The joker becoming an ideal for teenagers to emulate an them being violent murderous assholes is even more dangerous then MUH SUPREME FUNNEH MANIf they REALLY wanted to show how badly things have gotten then the jokers should have been an anti-establishment hero group that Terry started or was part of before it was taken over.
>>150585540It’s one of the coolest openings ever
>>150549991Yes
>>150586118>The joker becoming an ideal for teenagers to emulate an them being violent murderous assholes is even more dangerous then MUH SUPREME FUNNEH MANExcept they mostly were not. Aside from a few outliers who tried to actually do something big and the brief periods where they get commanded by bigger villains (including their own namesake), the Jokerz were never anything more than common punks in makeup who mugged people for credits and made dumb jokes.
>>150553571Yeah the 2010s Batman Beyond comics had Damian accusing Terry of being a charlatan.
>>150581869Who could forget dear Rat Boy
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>>150586990Damian is a shitty character and should've never been included in that.
>>150588113>Discover in one episode that Neo Gotham has a giant man-eating rat problem>Turns out the rats are being coordinated somehow by a kid who got bullied>This problem is resolved by having the kid and his rats fucking explodeYou have to feel a little bad for the guyBullying nerds in Neo Gotham just seems like a bad idea, when they can develop rat-mind or other psychic powers with little to no explanation
>>150588962What that nerd did to Nelson's new car was totaly not schway.Sure the guy deserved death and torture, but fucking up his car like that.
>>150553656>The Arkham devs, especially after they stopped consulting Dini, didn't seem particularly attached to the source materialPaul Crocker, Dini's main story collaborator at Rocksteady and whom Dini always praised during interviews, also left after Arkham City.So no one involved with the story of the Asylum or City was involved with writing Arkham Knight.
>>150588962Can’t have a Batman Beyond thread without this
>>150586118What the fuck are you talking about? 99% of the time the Jokerz were just common street punks shaking people down for pocket change and defacing walls with graffiti and joyriding, which was why it was so striking when they all pissed and shidded and farded themselves when the real Joker used Joker Gas on their friend in the movie.
>>150589110The most oppressed people of all ... GAMERS
Batman Beyond adaptation with more non-scrub/-dead/-worse than dead villains idea: splicers are all autistic sexual deviants, like real life furries are.
