New Monkey Wrench just dropped. Whose watching? Does anyone care?
>>150559769>Zeurel spent 64k on thisHow do you justify this?
>>150559769I didn't even get a notification or anything and I do care, wtf is animation being blocked again or just this guy?
>>150559855SimpleHe sucks Gooseworx off nightly and Goose provides the funds from Glitch
>>150559769Awesome episode, though I think they're delaying those mysteries too much. I can't say the show is rushing through plot points but it's not at a perfect pace either.
I miss the eye candy background characters.
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>>150559769Does Jacob Barrens still voice Shrike?If so, does he still do his shitty impersonation of Cheech Marin mixed with Adam Sandler's goat character?
>>150560156Episode 5 revealed quite a lot, actually.>Dolion Kroe (green Necron looking guy) is obviously a Human that was corrupted by the "Green" and recognized Shrike>all but confirms that Shrike is a Human/Alien hybrid creature that was raised by a Spanish speaking Human woman (also he doesn't have cock and balls or nips)>Agent K definitely has some mysterious motives and is definitely some sort of AI created by Human>Kara goes around murdering people who make memes about her (based as fuck)All in all I think its the best episode yet and is the first to actually grab my attention. Super fucking excited for more.
>>150560357More.I WANT MORE!GIVE ME MORE!
>>150559769I didn't even know it was out
>>150560371Yes on both accounts, but I actually found him less annoying in this episode. Slightly>>150560447Have a bunny.
>>150560547Thank you
>>150560585I think its hilarious and based that while a lot of the aliens we see in Monkey Wrench do look like traditional scifi aliens, a lot of them are just hot furry bitches for seemingly no reason other than Zeural wanted it.
>>150559855Honestly compared to the prices of traditional animation from big studios, 64K is pretty fucking economical. Doubt he's making any of that money back from each episode, though. He's 100% losing a shit ton of money, but doesn't care so long as he can create what he wants to create. Honestly I respect the shit out of it.
>>150559769Nobody is watching it, even if fucking Dana Terrace is begging them to watch it now.
>>150560696Who the fuck did Joshua and Ashley Palmer piss off?How are they getting everyone on their side but they just can't catch a fucking break?Like before with his earlier decisions like deleting the channel to reupload the whole thing on a new channel. Stupid as fuck.Getting mad over a tweet not blowing up when he could reward patreon people with early trailers. Just as stupid.Warranting it to fail though?
So is no Old School DA followers gotta bring this up or what?
>>150560766Artists typically aren't very logical people. I don't understand why he didn't upload Monkey Wrench on his main channel to begin with. Probably in his mind having Monkey Wrench on a seperate channel dedicated to just the show would make it appear more "professional" as a stand alone thing, but still it would have been better to just use the already established following he made over a decade instead of relying on a new channel.
>>150560766Theres a lot of bad decisions here, also the main character has a bad design and terrible voice.It's a hard sell to care unless you really want to support this guy, I tried to recommend it to people I know and even in some places I don't know a lot of people and everyone complaints were the same as mine.I'm not used to be correct, I'm normally a contarian but Shrike is just a no sell character with negative charisma and a lame voice.
>>150560825He did but he removed the videos and posted them on another one
>Remember: Artificial Life is a Sin>Any attempt to reproduce Terran experiments will result in the death penaltyWe haven't even seen a Human yet besides Dolion Kroe, but already this is my favorite depiction of Humanity in a sci-fi setting ever. The Terran stuff just hangs over the entire galaxy like a miasma, its fucking awesome.>>150560792>ancient Human scientist obsessed with the future to the point he turned himself into a fucking Necron and is probably the reason most of the galaxy is a giant toxic fart cloudKara has been dethroned as my favorite character in Monkey Wrench. This nigga is rad and I want to see more of him.
>>150559769Did this remind anyone else of the Diamonds from Steven Universe?
>>150559769Great episode, may even be the best one so far.
>>150560547>Yes on both accountsfucking dropped>but I actually found him less annoying in this episode. Slightlyhard to imagine. Maybe I'll give it a go. I like the rest of the people who have worked on this. It's a shame the main fucking character makes me want to claw my ears off. Are official Monkey Wrench dubs out? I wonder if maybe we could just replace all of Shrike's dialog with an audio track from another language and subtitle all of his lines. Call it the Monkey Wrench restoration project.
>>150560415"Basically confirms" is not the same as actually confirming it. And with a show like this that's on the verge of stopping production any time, this delay of information worries me.
>>150560371Goat character?
>>150560931Kara is a loser that gets at people making memes of her being a jobberKroe is a cool crazy scientist
>>150560547>Shrike went to this beach on his dreamWhat does it mean
>>150560996>dubsI want a german dub where Shrike talks in an east-frisian accent.
>>150561012Back in the 1900's Adam Sandler released a CD of mostly spoken word comedy sketches. In one of them he plays a goat who talks to a bunch of teenagers. The voice actor for Shrike sounds like he's doing a cross between Cheech Marin and that character. https://youtu.be/-47H99gKlo4?si=IFuoNp02ZdG_WD3t&t=15
She's kinda cute.
>>150560990I was thinking of that too the minute I saw it.
>>150561022Kara being an angry failure that the universe made into a complete joke is the reason I love her.
>>150560865Sad but true. Even a bland main character is better than an unlikeable one. Zeurel needs to accept that this version has failed and remake the series with a better cast. I propose recommending /co/ characters to see who would be best.I nominate Timmy from Fairly Odd Parents as his magical wishes and immaturity would screw up everyone else's plans.
>>150561009I too am super worried that Zeural is going to just out of the blue post a video saying that Monkey Wrench is "indefinitely postponed" because he is shit with money and can't keep afloat.Such is the woes of being self published, I suppose.
>>150561129I always thought the saying was "an unlikeable character is better than a bland one."
>>150560990Never watched Steven Universe. QRD?
>>150561249NTA, but honestly its interchangeable. >Damn this character is fucking boring, I almost wish he was more hateable so I'd at least feel something>Damn this character is fucking insufferable, I almost wish he wasn't as much of a character so I wouldn't be so pissed off even he's on screen
>>150561263Just the aesthetics of simple, color-coded shapes that represent a group of leaders or sub-orders with specific tasks, like enforcement etc. The leaders of the ayy lmaos in Steven Universe are also giant crystal women, like the red L.A.W lady in Monkey Wrench.
>>150561263Dyke rocks come to Earth, and some chunky dude with glam rocker hair fucks one, making it straight. It has a bean mouth baby with curly black hair and it's fat. It eats a lot and tries to be a pacifist and sing songs.Stuff happens.People watch it a lot or jack off to fanart online.Creator does nothing else after that.That is all you are missing.
>>150560655For real, the quality is pretty nice too. It's impressive how much he does with his budget
Which one of you faggots said this
>>150561546I admit it, it was me. I said nothing.
>>150561588Well congratulations, you got yourself caught. So what's the next step of your master plan?
How many episodes does Zeurel want to do of this? How much longer can it be economically feasible?
>>150561955I'm assuming 8. I do not believe there will be a second season.
>>150561998It would be hilarious if Glitch, flushed with success.Took this series as a third-party addition.
>>150562084They wouldn't, all of their shows star dyke women
>>150562099Shrike has no penor or vagen. He's an icon.Honestly now that I think about it its weird that Zeural pushed Tyreen as asexual for brownie points when Shrike is literally a biologically sexless entity with no reproductive organs. He is the actually asexual character.
>>150562162He's desperate and wants that xitter crowd
You can't fuck Shrike
>>150562382Did you want to?
>>150560865What??? I love Shrike's design. What's wrong with his design and his voice?
>>150562478NTA, but I think he's ugly as shit and his voice can be grating. I'm willing to forgive that because his connection to the Terran stuff is fucking interesting. Even if I don't like the character, I like what he represents.
>>150562478Shrike is great too, never knew people disliked him so strongly
>still doing this after Knights of Guinevere came outhumiliation ritual
>>150562504I don't think less of you for liking him, but is it really so fucking difficult for you to understand why a lot of people don't? He acts like an annoying dipshit little cousin that you're forced to interact with.
I want this show to succeed but it's boring as fuck, i only see furry porn of it
>>150560357>>150560547I am glad we are purging the blue hairs and can have sexy bitches in our cartoons again
>>150562478where is his penis
In a mid-off between these 3 shows which in your opinion has the best potential to grow into something watchable?
>>150560547>actually found him less annoying in this episode. SlightlyThis episode was clearly aimed at explaining some of Shrike's behavior. Beebs having a brain tumor seems like an unnecessary turn to fuck him in the ass.
>>150562690All are kino
>>150561320They are literally crystal women, not funny colored women that have a gem on their chest and a convient name.
>>150562697Not really. That is from episode 3. Remember? The spores went up into Beebs nose. It's growing inside him as we speak.Someone is AGARI/WALRINIAN pregnant~!
>>150562697Its what I was hoping for. If he gets a character arc where he becomes less of a dipshit impulsive spastic than I won't hate him as much. It seems to be going in that direction.
>>150562784>Beebs suddenly sneezes blood>little green mushroom fella with bits of brain matter stuck to it flies out of his nose>"Hey Shrike, can you get me an ibuprofen? I have a headache"
>>150560357I can fix her.
>>150562478I don't get the hate for his design but his voice if kinda grating. I don't hate it but it mildly annoys me.
>>150562690I think it's a bit disingenuous to call Monkey Wrench mid, it could be better but at least it has the polish of something made professionally. The other is just Pan's low quality autism and furry slop.
>>150560415Same. Things are finally starting to get interesting.
>>150562784It was only in there for a few minutes. This is why you should use brain condoms.
>>150563571They said the same thing about space crabs buddy and lemme tell you...don't believe a word of it. They get in for a second. One second is all it takes for them to drop as many eggs as possible. Don't even get me started on neuron lice.
>>150562690All are trash
>>150561332It had like 3 good episodes, 7 if we stretch it a lot.
>>150562856Im betting the fungus in his brain was benign and LAW just thought it was a tumor that should have been cut out. I think beebs was out to find the shroom people with his guitar to have it removed or resign himself to be shroom food. The point is moot anyway because I think when they blacked out it got infected by Green energy and crawled out of his nose and is loose in the ship.I do wonder why Shrike was so die hard to get the box and the green crystals. Are the crystals like humans compacted down somehow or are they the dark idol green thing and he's broke up in all these pieces.
>>150562637Floating around in his little head portal, maybe
>>150562690Imagine Glitch picking up any of these shows instead of what we got lol
>>150559769>Does anyone care?Nope.
>>150563901Glitch & Friends Internet Variety HourFeaturingMurder DronesThe Amazing Digital CircusThe Gaslight DistrictMonkey WrenchPunch Punch ForeverKnights of GuinevereAndBigtop Burgers
>>150562084I wish. Monkey Wrench is such a breath of fresh air. It isn't trying to be another irony poisoned edgelord setting with a cast of characters that flip-flop between cwaaazy chaos gremlin jackasses and sympathetic woobies at the writer's convenience because they want to have their cake and eat it too (Jax is excluded from this category because unlike Helluva Boss, Gaslight District, or Murder Drones, him being a nihilistic asshole is treated as having real consequence, both to himself and others, rather than being handwaved or because they live in a shitsack setting where literally all or almost everyone else is a nihilistic asshole chaos gremlin too). I actually like all of the characters, they're pretty competently written so far, they've got fun personalities and very cool designs- I absolutely adore Agent K, I think he's hands down my favorite in design and personality. It's got a brilliantly distinct art style, and the animation is REALLY good. It's also genuinely funny most of the time. Monkey Wrench, and Zeurel by extension, really deserve to take off. It's a passion project that's not only passionate but very, very good. I wonder whether Glitch is open or not to producing the show, or if Zeurel's determined to go it solo. Zeurel does work with Glitch from time to time.
>>150563791>I do wonder why Shrike was so die hard to get the box and the green crystals."I can make things right"Something tells me Shrike is a person who has fucked up a lot but has never received his dues. Which probably gets to him. We see how LAW functions. Even when two people commit a grievous act they get punished with a demotion. Shrike goes on 'off duty' vacay but turned out to be doing merc stuff on the side. He probably fucked up a lot of cases and jobs with LAW and feels like maybe he can do it himself without their prying eyes. Namely to prove them wrong.Shrike has a thing where he wants to prove himself to everyone. Beebs less as a friend and more so like an older brother. Not in a familial sense but like an older brother. Show he is not just responsible, but capable of making good decisions. Problem is he can't. He can make good improvised calls (duct tape, soda machine, using Punti etc.) but he sucks at planning and maybe he is aware of that?
>>150564182>Not in a familial sense but like an authority figure.typed that one out too fast.
I hope people filming Shrike’s sacrifice gets him good reputation when they come back from green world
I liked this one. Definitely the best episode so far, after a slow start. Hopefully they're rewarded for it and can keep up the momentum.
You faggots are insufferable
>>150564242>person with a Sans Undertale as their profile pic unironically saying "kek" in a Youtube comments sectionThat alone is evidence enough that this guy is profoundly autistic.
Why am I horny all of a sudden?>checks creditsOh, thats why.
>>150560655I just wish he spent some of that on the music. Oof.
>>150559870You might have might have restricted mode on YouTube turned it on by default for everyone it thinks is a child
>>150564375I fucking KNEW the triangle lady sounded familiar.
the red lady is hot
>>150564417lmao yt thinks all of /co/ are ̶m̶a̶n̶children then
>>150561081would bone
it's impossible to hear jawbone as anything but joel but I think vinny actually does a decent job as gnorts even if it's just him slightly increasing his default accent and nothing else
>>150562478I hated him before I watched the show and think he's okay after watching the last 2 episodes which probably isn't the kind of reaction you want to your main character if you want to actually make moneyI will admit the voice does suit him though
has zeurel said how many more episodes he has planned to at least finish telling this story?
>>150559769No, no one cares about your shitty middle school OC and his lame as fuck show
>>150564714I care.
>>150564020Holy fuck you talk like such an obnoxious faggot. How do you breath choking on that much cock? >TADC Jax fanExplains a lot.
>>150564753>Jax fanNo? I don't do that fanboy schtick. I think Jax is a good character that's handled well though.
>>150564801He really isn't but your dogshit opinion really illuminates the dogshit opinions in your earlier post and why you slobber on Monkey Wrench so relentlessly.
>>150559769Seen it and once again, the two leads are the least interesting parts of the episode. They’ve not given us much to care about their friendship when they annoy eachother all the time which isn’t fun to watch either. That aside, the worldbuilding and side characters were alright, and the action scenes had some nicely animated moments.
>>150561031because that's where beebs wanted to go. I think deep down shrike knows that he owes beebs a lot, and does want to pay him back. Nobody is going to be able to reach them on an island. >>150564951I like them but I agree, they're going to have to make up if this is going to go forward, and desu I think being trapped in the shittiest part of the universe is probably going to bring them together so they can be a proper team
>>150559769HE HAS NO DICK OR ASS?
>>150559769Neat!
>>150562382His head has more fuck holes than yours
>>150560655but why
>>150560792I am a sucker for Zeurel's tendency to reuse and re-adapt old characters from cringe deviant art tournaments over a decade old Feels like a measure of your time as an artist
>>150560931It's the end result of those stories about humans being the "Klingons" of the galaxy. Destructive and wild, even to ourselves.
>>150566048In this case we are more like Picard in that movie episode where Picard scanned a specific spot with tachyon particles that ended up creating an anomaly that grew backwards in time and it had an effect that stopped proteins from forming in Earth's primordial ooze and prevented humanity and other species from existing.
>>150561100>>150560415What's really sad is how Zuerel wishes the series was popular enough to produce lame memes.
>>150564182>using PuntiWait, why did Shrike think Punti was dead? Like he held punti in his hands and saw the thing handed over to LAW. How do you forget about the little Rock person you used as a sword and worshipped you as some sort of dirty. Forget dirty, just being the only living person you know that you get along with. I went back and at no point does Shrike get told Punti is dead.
>>150559769Why I want to marry red triangle lady?
>>150566229Because you are a tasteless pleb
>>150566294B-but she is so cute and tall...
>>150560696>even if fucking Dana Terrace is begging them to watch it now.Well that explains why nobody is watching it if she endorses it.
>>150560766Im going to go on a limp here and say that its not entirely their fault that this project hasn't taken off like they wanted to (by all accounts its doing fine compared to most indie slop) and just that audience mindset towards what's appealing and "cool" has changed. Monkey Wrench would have probably something of a hit if it came out in the 00s but there's just no aspect of it that stands out nowadays especially for people who didn't grow up watching Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, and Firefly also Zeruel suffers the same problem Harry does in which they don't really know how to market to an audience outside their core ones so their design philosophy don't lend themselves well to fan art (Speedoru also has this problem too to an extent but he's also a coomer artist so even if people don't get the references they'll find something to like about it). So Monkey Wrench doesn't have a well known and popular artist attached to it (Hellaverse) and didn't win the algorithm jackpot (Glitch!) so its just never going to reach the heights that the creators want but its fine for now at the very least they're sticking to their guns with their vision.
>>150561031>
>>150559769I agree 100% with the message of this showGreen is bullshit
>episode released yesterday>120 replieswow
>>150564688Considering how we still don’t know the main answers for a lot of it, I think this is gonna be a long series
>>150566498> Im going to go on a limp hereBone apple tea
>>150566498>>150566991It must suck to have a limp when dealing with all those run on sentences.
>>150566508You wanna know what’s bullshit? Racism.
>>150567170It's called genetics, brown. Not our fault you ruined yours by staying too much in the sun turning brown to the point you have to lie to us that tans are good.
>>150564714>OCabbreviation only used by annoying people
>>150567568Nigga the women in your family liked black menTake a DNA test
>>150566991>>150567008Go be a faggot somewhere else.
>>150567644That's you pretending to be a white woman on Second Life, latinX. That BBC cock you sucked? It was a pajeet's. You as a latinX man sucked pajeet cock.
>>150566146Because he was focused on other shit.
>>150559769I liked it, the stakes are getting more intense and the episodes keep getting better.
>>150562478He looks like a cucked version of Earthworm Jim.
>>150566039Agreed. I wish he didn't delete his DeviantArt account though. It's all lost history now.
>>150567600I think it's a fair criticism for a certain type of online artist that just creates character designs without really thinking about them in the context of a main plot or their personal development. I don't think that's really the case here, they might have started as that years and years ago but I think Zeurel expanded them enough at this point where they don't qualify as that.
>>150568386I don't blame him considering the state of that godawful site now, I just wish there was some sort of backup somewhere.
>>150568348But he ain't got no worm.
>>150566146focused on other shit, like where is his shrimp dick and he has hasn't pizza in a while now.
>>150568386I fucking hate it when artists do this.
Joel is talking about the ep right now.https://www.twitch.tv/vargskelethor
>>150568529it's for the best. Trust me. It's the INDIA of the internet now dude.
>>150568529DeviantArt kinda forced a lot of people's hands, not to mention I think his account there was inactive by that point like with most people that were active on DA once upon a time. It was an archive that became too burdensome to keep around.
>>150564282I bet he's some Corpo executive's rugrat, raised on the idea of "if something doesn't make STUPID big numbers in three days, then it's a failure, regardless of positive criticism, fans, and artistic merit". The mindset that kills good art for profit's sake. Or just for some 1%er's strange alien idea on how it *should* work. Me, I love Monkey Wrench. I love the designs of all the characters, and I'm engaged in the main character's relationship and hoping they can patch it up. Also the main villain's design, the moment he came out with that freaky skull head and being a german mad scientist, I know I was going to love this guy. Cocksuckers like that sans guy, or the guy who keeps making the "Monkey Wrench sucks because Zeurl didn't put it on his main channel" are autistic dweebs.
>>150564714People do if there's a thread on it right now after a new episode drops.
>>150560792rockman neo look ass
>>150567703Based, owned and truthpilled. He didn't even dare reply after that.
>>150560655>Doubt he's making any of that money back from each episodeMaybe not from YouTube but it seems like he's making enough Patreon bux alone to pay for it since he's reached 8K per month so even after they take their cut and taxes he's probably at the minimum breaking even but then he has merch sales like the plush drives that give him a little bit extra.
>>150568823True, you don't need as many views as long as you have an extremely dedicated fanbase who will give you money
>>150568631>Monkey Wrench sucks because Zeurl didn't put it on his main channelTo be fair, creating a new channel for Monkey Wrench probably wasn't the most economical idea because Jewtube does so much retarded shit with the algorithm that it likely unnecessarily fucked him a little bit. Just so much esoteric bullshit you have to deal with it's insane.
>>150561081I love how there's a whole race of skeleton people in this universe. They all have great designs.
>>150568911..What if those are actually humans that transformed into a whole new kind of species? Ya know, the only human thing in them is only the "body".
>>150568953would be funny if the only way to evade LAW and mask yourself being a terran was to rip off your own skin
>>150564714I think that describes most indie cartoons right now, actually.
I know this guy from that Homer eating pie video, is this show good?
>>150569039Yeah, it's pretty cool
>>150560792Him and Gooseworx have that in mind of being inspired by really old internet shit. Maybe that's why they're buddies.
>>150568911>>150568953>>150568981I like to think that the only way Zeural could get Joel to voice Jawbones is if he put a race of skeleton people in his show.>THE SKELETON IS COMING OUT AHHHHH
>>150560696>>150560766It's more than they can only do so much and their audience doesn't have the reach they think it does, at least not for projects like this. Also, Zeurel wanting to make a new channel for this show rather than using his old one when using old channels with enough subs is exactly the way to get max viewership.Dana Terrance has fans, but if she had somehow made KOG by herself and uploaded to her youtube channel, it would not have gotten 10 M in a week. And even 10 in a week is low for the standard of Glitch shows, so if not even all Glitch subscribers are watching it, then even less would without that channel.This is pretty clearly Zeurel's passion project, and I think it's cool he dedicates hiimself to that.
>>150568981Yeah lol. Tho the whole hate for Terrans is strange, like its not in our nature to make some sort of fucked up green life forms, why all of a sudden make us a universal threat if only some idiotic scientists wanted to play a god and fucked up so much. Unless all humans are carriers of that things, I see not reason in this witch hunting. Also, funny thing that Agent K is also a very human looking fellow, most likely a former one or just mimicking form and fashion if you know what I mean.
>>150569039Nah
>>150569167I mean, its kind of like how the Quarians from Mass Effect were just totally fucked over and despised by every other species in the galaxy for creating the Geth, despite the fact that hundreds of years later no one responsible for creating the Geth is still alive. And it seems what Humanity did in the Monkey Wrench universe was like 1000 times worse than just creating some funny robots.Agent K is probably in the top 3 coolest characters for me. He is definitely connected to the Terran shenanigans. I'm still wondering what his motives are. Also I think its hilarious and hot that when Dolion called Kara Agent K's pet he didn't even bother correct him and just went along with it. In his enigmatic mind, she's just his precious murder kitty.
>>150566498Personally, while I like shrike and beebs. (Shrike looks exactly like someone I would design) I can get behind them having more of a “side character” feel.Also I think they lend themselves pretty well to fanart. I think if the cards were right they’d be liked well enough.
>>150562690Where is Wasted?
>>150568386I'm really sad that he purged his comics from that one Pokemon tournament game. I would love to read through them again.
>>150569167>go on date with Kara>everything goes well so long as you never mention >she doesn't talk much, but she's a great listener It would be a most enjoyable and delectable luncheon.
>>150570509>never mention _____Duct tape.
>>150569848>I'm really sad that he purged his comics from that one Pokemon tournament game. I would love to read through them again.Dont worry about it, here it is!https://gofile.io/d/PVcKxF
>>150568763>Samefag so pathetic he needs to give himself validation
I liked this episode. Felt a bit more engaging than previous episodes for some reason.>>150561081>suit has to be surgically implanted and later removed.Is the head crystal thing also some surgical thing or unrelated to all the other things he has on?
>>150571136This thing is literally a part of him, he is a unique kind of alien, and show cleary make accent on his head-crystal>>150570647H-hot
>>150570802>Anon so pathetic he needs to pretend everyone is samefagging.
fuck i gotta wait 8 months for moar?
>>150570736Oh shit, thanks for the dolphin porn
Yep, that is a wife.
>>150571191Cool still proving my point
>>150562856>Beebs suddenly sneezes blood>little green mushroom fella with bits of brain matter stuck to it flies out of his nose>"Hey Shrike, can you get me an tylenol? I have a headache">"Tylenol? That shit causes autism. I would know"
>>150569039Yes!
how to dominate Kara in the bedroom.
Why is it called like that?
>>150570647Sex
>>150568513thats why he was in surgeryLAW takes your worm to keep you obedient
>>150571560There is a disturbing lack of Kara duct tape bondage art. There needs to be way more.
>>150560792I miss Zeurel's old style so much it's unreal
>>150571750>L.A.W is just a more colorful version of the CombineGrim.
>>150571781His old style is more complicated and suited to comics/illustrations, but it surely has more substance and grit to it. Some Monkey Wrench designs feel so sanded down and flat that they lack volume or tangibility.
>>150560655I think he should use some of that money at least once to do a proper marketing campaign.As for the animation itself. Even episodes 1-4 were absolutely superior over every other indie cartoon released so far ... even Long Gone Gulch which I consider the best out of all of them.It still does have a bunch of problems which are very pronounced in episode 5 which ironically are pronounced by not showing off its weaknesses.This episode he finally focused on story, world design, a less slapstick structure like Rick & Morty and a more traditional action structure, only with a lot of dialogue from multiple parties.The fact he focused on multiple parties is what's good and ironically shows Beebs and Shrike's weakness as characters.Neo Shrike shows how he's not a very fun character, he's more egotistical and depressing than anime Dante which many called shitty compared to Devil May Cry 3 and 4 the video game Dante. He's also absolutely no Freakazoid, The Mask, Earthworm Jim which are a million times more fun. Beebs are his babysitter also doesn't work, I saw this dynamic elsewhere with Mao Mao and Badglerclops is not tardwrangler material. Like many have said before Beebs & Shrike's dynamic don't work due to how unfun and boring they are.This episode everyone says it's been the best so far because it doesn't focus on them, there's a lot more things going on which makes the pacing feel finally good. It's not 30 minutes of overly focusing on 2 characters doing nothing interesting that you get bored of them or rushing through everything.Ironically Shrike & Beebs being almost mute action men worked in their favor and the red bitch telling Shrike to STFU worked to his advantage since a mute character like Samurai Jack is better than Deadpool who isn't entertaining to watch.
>>150572041Shrike & Beebs need to be severely rewritten to their alpha characters or to just become mute tools for the story/plot like Donald Duck who gets odd jobs or meets far more interesting characters than him.In its current form it's not Space Dandy, it's not Cowboy Bebop. Zeurel taking a page out of Genndy Tartakovsky who understood his limits after a bunch of fiascos and instead just sticking to what he knows or rather what's easier to write for a storyboard action man; world design and action sequences, not emotional sequences, lovable assholes, drama, etc. which need a dedicated writer.Genddy did not write Dexter's Lab, he wrote Samurai Jack where Jack isn't really a character and Aku also beyond 2 episodes doesn't take himself seriously.Every other character being serious except for Shrike like say a Serious Sam, The Tick or The Mask situation could work, but not if Zeurel keeps writing like this. I don't understand how he managed to write his characters better in his alpha content, but now they're extremely resigned, boring, holding their punches and trying to be more "mature" while not being and trying to be irresponsible without the entertaining and redeeming aspects. I think everyone has already said this perspective before.But this episode right here showed what was missing. You care more about everything else orbiting these characters rather than these characters themselves. As long as these characters DO NOT get in the way of the story you're golden, but sadly for 4 episodes or more they have and have amateurishly dragged the plot along with them attempting to figure out what the hell to do with it.
>>150572191Any other thing is more nitpicking , still valid, but nitpick, such as I couldn't take the Red Triangle Woman's voice seriously. I did not like the barely 1 minute exposition going from olden time narrative to a news reporter akin to a Starship Troopers parody except it wasn't even that.The geometric shapes were interesting as an abstract concept like ancient angels, not as literally geometric shapes because the artist doesn't know or care for drawing interesting crystal aliens properly, why do they have to be geometric shapes in the first place?Anything else are nitpicks about the writer not being able to match up to the level of writing he's required of or not being able to focus 100% on what he knows.The music imbalance is still weird and Shrike's voice "acting" where you can't understand 90% of what he's saying without captions is still annoying as shit.Because otherwise this episode had a really acceptable pacing even the endings. I was worried he was going to leave me hanging or he was going to waste too much time on a scene while forgetting a bunch of mandatory scenes. It overall felt complete.There was the mandatory villain scene, he did not come out of nowhere.A lot of A happens therefore B happens, therefore C happens in a relatively orderly manner which most 2010s writers nowadays cannot do worth a shit.They did not forget about the 2 secondary characters' punishment.And a bunch of other secondary characters.At the same time a bunch of said elements did not overtake the main story unlike episode 4 where it feels like 2 huge B plots going on at the same time and nothing getting resolved.This episode kind of felt like things got resolved. The box actually gets a conclusion by blowing the fuck up already instead of JUST getting stolen for the 6th time. Any person is insterested in seeing a conclusive reaction rather than just exposition and teasing that leads to nowhere cause the writer doesn't know what to do with it.
>>150559769Monkey Wrench? More like Monkey Stench!!!!
>>150572365
Why does he look like the child of Bart Simpson and Earthworm Jim
>>150573055Shrike's mother is the Mexican bee guy from the Simpsons and his father is Earthworm Jim.
>page 10That's about all there is to it. Honestly I'm surprised the thread lasted this long at all. Guess I'll see you boys in about 7-10 months. Also, obligatory >Kara, my beloved failure
I actually enjoyed this episode so have a bump from page 10. This episode managed to at least have the story immerse you into it rather than the characters so again either Zeurel finds a co-writer or he keeps doing what he's good at meaning world design, eldritch abomination villains and sci-fi story over hero characters.
>>150570647Bvilt for DiD (with over-the-shoulder carry) (and angry struggling)
>>150575252That's a nice mental image.
>>150569823The fuck is this?
>>150560931>>150566048>>150569167>>150568981>>150568953What if LAW is a Terran operation and they have very horrible options of dying, imprisonment, or becoming something like her… So normal humans are threatened by their own kind that have their own ideas of a reunion.
I don't believe the Primaries are the creators of life. I think the Terrans made them before they rebelled.
>>150559769I care. I liked the show.Except for the first pilot episode. That was awful when I first watched it.
>>150578645Why?
>>150578524Primaries are so overly fixated on humans above anyone else (who is an endling) that it might actually be they are humans themselves. Remember when this bird guy had a very high bounty on his head and it was actually his own mother taking him back home. What that LAW lady says to the rock guy about finding his other kind made me suspicious of what she actually was and these high-reward human capturing posters never once mentioned anything about killing the targets, only that LAW will “execute” them.
Why does it barely get any views
>>150579557No one knows. Maybe it is cursed by witches.
>>150579662Trans people are around 5% of the population and most of them watched TADC
>>150579742>trannies make up 5% of the populationThat sounds like a fucking MASSIVE overestimate. I refuse to believe that there are 400 million trannies in existence. The number has to be something like 0.01%
When is next episode coming out?
>>15057996399% of the people that claim to be something or suffer a disease tend to be women that treat mental disorders like bag accessories while insisting it's not a phase.Just keep that it mind and a lot of this world nonsense start making sense.
What's the plot?
>>150575074I wonder if Kara will ever join the gang (even if she doesn't want to)
>>150580086Literal dickless homunculus creature and his walrus tard wrangler become private military contractors and try to defraud the space government.
>>150570647>Zeurel is a bondage guyMan of taste
>>150578670>Why?im not sure. I think it's because its a "shaggy dog" episode and/or the way the bird keeps saying "ghost egg noooooo" the entire episode.
>>150561081>she
>>150580294Sounds like a show that would blow up
Need lariat to join already
>>150580684Yeah she’s the missing piece for our group of heroes
Where is Zuriel
>>150580294Meant to reply to >>150580179>>150580086Probably in about 8 months.
>>150580684>>150580725I'm assuming that's the Human chick with the robot arm and tail, right?I thought that she was going to be the thing in the box that everyone was after.
>>150560990These characters are pretty much:>GOOSEWORKS SEMPAI PLEASE NOTICE ME
>>150580684>>150580866She’s scrapped and doesn’t serve a purpose for this story.
>>150580684>lariatWho the hell is that?
>>150581063Sad if true.Honestly I hope a "normal" Human shows up at some point.
this show's gonna outlast ADC
>>150581374The problem is that a main character is already heavily connected to the humans and hiding his connects with them from his own friend, and the top of top dogs are humans themselves. They are in those mono-eyed vessels, but still human never-or-less. The humans found by LAW were implied to be without clothes and scattered on unexpected spaces with some stuff on them.So you have this huge gap between the big ones and the regular ones that she doesn’t fit into the universe nor has the time to be featured in this very compact story.
>>150559769I feel like the series has gotten a lot better as it continues
How hasn't Zeruel gotten bankrupt yet, this shit costs over 20k per episode to make
>>150582124Patreon monies
Damn, i remember seeing threads shitting on it in 2023, i didn't know it'd last this long
>>150560357>an actually attractive furry characterI kneel
>>150566229Nice voice
Amazing how much expression you can imply with a single eye.
>>150561081Yellows seem chill
>>150559769Wonder if we'll see an actual human or if corrupted/mutated variants are all that's left
>>150582855that sequence where it morphs into his actual face was rad
>>150560792So when are we getting Black Ace?
>>150577793Drugshttps://youtu.be/XDLluOkkE2M?si=-8fp7sraPjaKmseO
>>150585000already cameo'd as an action figure.
>>150572365We could've gotten "monkey wench" but it just sounds like someone with a lisp trying to pronounce the regular title anyhow.
>>150560357Mating press.
>>150568386>>150568529Defiant art announced it would feed all art on its site to the AI grinder. People understandably got upset and yoinked their work.
>>150585897Where’d you get that image?
>>150578007I mean she looks cute and all, but I better be myself and alive. The whole situation with obsessive human hunting is because we are a unique species in their galaxy, not only as the eldest creation, but also the one that was created by 3 prime colours, while others only have one creator. Maybe this along is the reason why they want us for something even after such a massive green fuck up. Huh, would be funny if they have a planetary terrarium where they keep terrans so nobody would hurt them and vice versa.
>>150582975In the first episode there was a wanted poster for two humans that were captured by L.A.W and they were normal looking. I imagine there are small groups or lone individuals living in hidden Enclaves outside of the quarantine zone.
>>150578645Wait, does it get better? I dropped it after the pilot. I couldn’t stand the sound of shrike’s voice
>>150586997It unironically does. I think each new episode is better than the last. While I still don't really like Shrike, he is becoming progressively less annoying each episode.
>>150586997The first 4 episodes were shit, this one is okay.Wouldn't say it's worth it.
>>150559769The spisode was good, yeah, some misteries are piling up, but the progression of the characters and how they deal with their problems is interesting enough.>>150562690Yeah, criminally underrated.
I hope the walrus fuckers come backI loved that guy
>>150582124He makes over 8K per month just from Patreon alone so can keep that shit up for as long as he wants
>>150586997I think it gets genuinely good by the time of episode 3
>>150581063Wasn't she in a trailer though?
Is this an Earthworm Jim sequel
Personally I want a stand alone episode dedicated solely to following a group of Humans surviving on the fringes of galactic society while avoiding L.A.W
>>150559769>Does anyone care?No
>>150560547I like Shrike more now because his fuck-up in the casino isn't just being written off as a joke that's forgotten between episodes. It's a lasting divide between him and Beebs and is making them confront why they're even working together.
>>150585897Damn she has a fat ass
>>150589820This. I'm so used to shitty insufferable characters being stupid cunts and facing no consequences that actually seeing Shrike not get off scott free for being impulsive retard is actually really refreshing. Him being held accountable for his shitty behavior and having to change for the better is based and I hope it continues to happen.
>>150559769
>>150590954kek
>>150564405They somehow spend $8k per episode on music. I feel like for that amount they'd be able to find someone better
>>150592173Musicians are more flippant and unreliable than artists. If you can force them to work but there is no guarantee they will even do a good job, as music quality is very subjective.
>>150592653>there is no guarantee they will even do a good job, as music quality is very subjectiveFalse. If you're hiring your cousin Bubba who pirated a copy of Fruity Loops and makes hip hop beats for funsies, yeah - you get what you deserve. Trained musicians who specialize in scoring media know what the fuck they're doing, can take direction, and can fulfill revision and edit requests. They are flexible enough that they can listen to references and adapt their working methods to fit a project. Just like visual artists, there's a huge difference between hobbyists and actual professionals. You're talking about hobbyists.
>>150579963Its very skewed as most a lot of people claiming to be transsexuals also endorse the policy that its alright to lie and go to extremes to complete a goal or make a statement for a social cause. Further, within their circles, transsexuals have raised social status. So there is a lot more incentive to lie about being a transsexual or how many transsexuals exist than there are. Really, there are like 0.000001% of the population.
>>150592803>Trained musicians who specialize in scoring media know what the fuck they're doing, can take direction, and can fulfill revision and edit requests. They are flexible enough that they can listen to references and adapt their working methods to fit a project. Just like visual artists, there's a huge difference between hobbyists and actual professionals. You're talking about hobbyists.I will give you the benefit of the doubt that these "professional muscian" creatures exist if only that mutant deviations can be found in any species.
>>150582124hes got that tom fulp money
What art styl is this show trying to ape?
>>150594190Nothing really. It's the artstyle on an oldschool 2000s internet artist that got objectively worse, or rather "sanded down" for animation purposes.
>>150594190This show looks AI generated.
>>150594190noneits zeruel own "i want to make own shit up" style
>>150594190newgrounds style
why did it flop?
>>150595672It lacks a simple strong hook.Most popular indie pilots can be summarized in one powerful sentence, but you can't do that with Monkey Wrench because the protagonists are nothings while there's too much going on around them right from the start. It is doomed to be a late-bloomer at best, once the story is (nearly) complete and the early episodes can be viewed in a new context.
>>150595895So are they like space bounty hunters or whatever?
>>150595672He didn't upload it on his main channel
>>150595895>Most popular indie pilots can be summarized in one powerful sentence, but you can't do that with Monkey Wrench because the protagonists are nothings while there's too much going on around them right from the startYou could apply all this to KOG and that made tons of views anyways. And of course you can summarize MW easily, it's just space mercenaries for hire in a galaxy where humans are long gone.
>>150597228Nobody cares about the plot of that, it's all TOH fanboys
>>150595032shut up
>>150560931The framing in this shot is obviously super intentional with the triangle essentially labeling Shrike but it's still appreciated.
This is the most nauseating show ever made. Characters move at 2 FPS but the camera is just going all over the fucking place. Unwatchable, glad it's flopping.
Shrike has no testicles kek
>>150597083Beebs is. Shrike is a space CIA deserter.
>>150598158Nigga that's (not) nuts
do i hear vinesauce
>>150598276So what do they do?
>>150598557Yes, he was a skeleton
>>150597256I was surprised that girl was not in the box. I think that is caring about the plot. Is not most plots wondering what is in a box?
>>150560792I NEED to hold Dolion's hands.
>>150595672Incredibly weak protagonists. Like what this anon said >>150595895there is interesting things happening, but the protagonists just cannot carry it. I really dont like them nor care. This show could work so much better with a rewrite with a more compelling dynamic duo.Zeurel really wants me to care about Shrike and his past, but I find him so fucking annoying that he hasn't earned my attention for it. In the hands of a character I'd be rooting for, this could work.
>>150593137>if only that mutant deviations can be found in any speciesSo are you alleging that when any film hires a professional composer, they're simply rolling the dice as to whether they'll get serviceable music or not?
>>150599097>return bird man children to their mothers>collect pebble beanie babies for accidental genocide>deliver box of green shit to people on the spectrumBasically what random shit you pay them for, I guess.
>>150559855I cannot believe he spent 9k on sound design. The voice effects sound nice but the sound effects lacked way too much punch and seemed non-existent for the amount of action that was happening.
>>150599333>Episode: 006 "A Stray Child"Elusive Human female kino soon bros.
>>150600167Why did he spends 9k on that shit? He could've paid some rando a few hundred bucks and it would've turned out similar
i kinda feel bad for this fag
>>150600875Hey! Watch your mouth!He isn't a fag. He is a tranny. There is a difference.
>>150601002He is not a tranny. He is a kiwi.
>>150561081>Height: 6'3I thought he was a Manlet
>>150601523Next to Beebs, yeah. And Beebs is a manlet compared to his own species.
>>150562478I got used to his voice a long time ago. Don't know why people still bitch about it
>>150601554Because a character's voice is their most important aspect.
>>150600167>The voice effects sound nicewhat an oddly specific thing to point out. The world is small.
>>150601631NTA, but the voice modulation for Dolion made my ears cum. I love that artificial sound.
>>150564242>My favorite gag was the animatorsLol.
I think I'm gay
>>150586997lore slop but this ep is nice
>>150599810Yes. The next Tron movie will have Nine Inch Nails do the soundtrack following Daft Punk. There are other movies that have spent lots of money and did not get good music at all.
So are there any iconic scenes
>>150603332nope
Earthworm Jim?
How long before it reaches 1 million?
>>150603332Not really. The show is way too focused using both leads for the far more interesting supporting characters to dump lore and exposition onto. This show desperately needs them to take charge of the plot themselves because that’s what makes memorable moments.
Monkeybros...
>>150603779It’s never over
>>150599333>episode 6So she’s finally appearing next episode
>>150603820How much porn will we get?
>>150602355Shrike...
>human femaleyeah no, I’m not watching this
>>150603931Pussy, i brt you jerk off to anthro females
>>150603823I don't know, but I will be the change I want to see in the world if there's none.
>>150599333>>150600315>>150603820This character should've been introduced in ep3 at the LATEST. Now the Bulldog & Shrike buddy drama show has dragged on for way too long and will only be resolved because they'll have to pull their shit together for the girl. The whole drama between the protagonists would've been way more interesting if a third character was there to witness and comment on it.
>>150604184The show has plenty of cute anthros, but being forced to follow these hideous MCs completely kills the mood, should have stuck closer with the cowboy bepop and space dandy inspo and had a human male protag
>>150599333>>150600315la creatura
>>150600315Hold on.....they had this chick all this time and didn't use her? LMAO
>>150604739They were trying to appeal to furries first
I hope this show succeeds but i can't stand watching it
>>150604437Atleast the porn is good
>>150561100Ngl, I wanna have a threesome with Kara and Tyneen, fuck the dyke right out of the both of them.On other news, I kinda felt like we were exposition dumped in the least organic way possible. Not only that, I like it how the aliens and apparently the universe is RGB, when we know in real life that there are other base colors that we are just unable to perceive. Aside that, I loathed the bit where they listened to Joel's music to find Jawbone. That was stupid and not even funny.Now that is out of the way, I am genuinely interested in what will follow. I just really hope Zeurel has his shit together in terms of story and won't do a Vivziepop (aka keep introducing new characters and arcs that come from nowhere and go to nowhere) messing up everything in the process.What I can absolutely applaud the man and his team for is the work and transparency in costs. It is not easy putting all of this together and then keeping it afloat, running and producing.If you guys ever read this, keep it up and do not let up. You are doing great work, despite my criticism.
>>150605050The whole thing with L.A.W spouting a cosmic origin story that sounded like a religious creation myth is actual propaganda made to give them a sense of legitimacy. I get the feeling that the Red, Blue and Yellow leaders of L.A.W just made that shit up to obtain power.
>>150605050They're dykes?
>>150604739Amazing, isn't it?
>>150605191At the very least bisexual and in love with one another to varying degrees. It was in the previous episode or the one before. Tyneen showed that she and Kara have been doing things together and at some point Kara etched her name into her chest scales or whatever she has.
>>150605244If they're bisexual then they suck cock too
>>150605141Yeah, there is that. But the tired cliche of an interview/documentary giving us the exposition felt painful as it really just existed for that sole purpose.On the positive side, at least there is some thought going into how the world works and it seems to be fairly interesting.
>>150600315Cutie
>>150605244Tyreen is asexual and Kara is murder-sexual. You are making mountains out of mole hills, my friend. This is like those people who deluded themselves into thinking Shrike and Kara had "tension".
>>150605258Yep, and I'm gonna fuck that last vestige of dyke out of them. Jokes aside, I like those characters. Weirdly, far more interesting than the MCs. I'd not mind a dedicated episode for each of them, from their perspective. I think there is a lot of potential for clever story telling, fleshing out the characters in question and the world. Not to mention some more funny/interesting/emotional moments that could give them depth.
So is Zeruel announcing that he's continuing this?
>>150595672I think people are too quick to look at the top performing webseries right now that got lucky with the algorithm and assume that anything else that comes up short by comparison is an automatic failure.
>>150605305Clown milf
>>150605293I want an episode just about Kara going on killy murder assassin adventurer.
>>150605341I want her to sit on my My face
>>150605299He’s come this far to give up
>>150605305what's this from?
So why hasn't the gorilla looking guy killed Shrike yet?
>>150604739People were complaining that it didn't have a waifu from the first thread
>>150605405Bigtop Burger?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfR_p5BO-Yw
We're 5 episodes and 3 years in, and we're only now getting important worldbuilding details and an idea how the setting is supposed to work. Zuerel, that's not how your supposed to write. There's a difference between slowly revealing your world, and actively removing context only to add it later. Also, he's putting a LOT of faith in the audience to understand some things, I'm not sure if his target demographic knows what an "endling" is.
>>150605623sounds cool, might check it later
>>150560931Just say you haven't read/watch much sci-fi beyond the big mainstream franchises.
>>150605663Nobody does, specially not in /co/
>>150604739She's kind of a living spoiler
>>150605727why
>>150605663You're welcome to recommend some
>>150605729Terrans are all either dead, corrupted, or being purged by the authorities. We didn't know if the main cast would even meet a normal human.
>>150605770Why did they spoil it before the episode even comes out though
>>150605642Also making them first episode filler was a retarded idea
>>150605821I can forgive ep1 because as a pilot, it was supposed to show a "slice" of the actual show. Ep2 being yet another self-contained filler is the true blunder.
>>150605770terrans might be hiding somewhere like in a fold in spacetime created by themthe final episode could be shrike and beebz bringing the girl back to humanity (and shrike having a fucking blast with human culture)
>>150605770Terran males are being raped by space anthro women
Anyways, what happened to humans canonically?
the human girl had many brothers but they were all captured and sold into sexual slavery on the black market, truly a tragic story…
>>150605747He won't, he just wants to be an elitist faggot
>>150605995They caused the cataclysm. You can see wanted posters for executed human prisoners in the background of the first episode, implying there are still some survivors being hunted down.
>>150605995They fucked up and made Green a creative color.
>>150562690monkey wrench but that sure doesnt mean a lot. its already wasted potential and has revealed itself to be boring. I like loki IRL but 90% of people probably wouldnt, and all of my normal friends kinda hated it. I dont know how anyone could like wastelandia unless it 180s into a kitty bobo / mission hill ripoff
>>150606066Wastelandia is for Twitter trannies
>>150605905What was ep2 about? I know ep1 was about chasing some cat or something
>>150605905It introduced Punti
>>150606066it's crazy how much of a flop Loki was in the end.
>>150606209i think pan got pretty unlucky with how much shit has been coming out recently. it really isnt terrible, but it feels more like an idea than a tangible show. it makes sense its the least popular
>>150606252Yeah it came out right before KoG and the Homestuck pilot and new episodes of Monkey Wrench and Space King premiered
>>150604946lol
>>150559769If no cat or raptor, or sexy furry chick, don't care
>>150606305There's a sexy feline chick
>>150602839and Wendy Carlos before that. What's your point? All three music entities were able to successfully convey emotional context of each scene to the audience which is what film composers are supposed to do. Whether or not that happens to align with your personal aesthetic preferences is immaterial - the score helps tell the story. Visual artists follow direction and ultimately help the director/producer/creator bring their vision to life. Same goes with the composer. And if whoever the "boss" is feels that they are not performing their duties adequately, they can get fired just as anyone else can. There's as much a>guarantee they will do a good job as any other position. There's a risk that a professional actor won't "do a good job" or a writer won't "do a good job", but professionals are professionals because they tend to have a high rate of success, can take direction, and can usually get projects to where they need to be.
>>150560371I can't STAND this blue-haired faggot's voice. It probably got him beaten up a lot in school
>>150606364That shitty hair probably did
>>150604946/thread
>>150606207That could've been done without dedicating an entire episode to it. The later episodes demonstrate that Zeurel knows how to run multiple plot threads simultaneously.
>>150606383So he got better now?
Whats the main character supposed to be
>>150606415Sort of, yeah. The show is slowly course-correcting it seems.
Monkey Bench
>>150606459"Unknown", but highly likely to be a weird alien hybrid creature created in lab by humans.
>>150606579It will be fully course corrected when they fire Jacob Barrens and get a better voice actor for Shrike. I don't care what the reason is. Make the character get hit by a voice changing ray or something. He's EASILY the single worst thing about the show. I can overlook almost any other complaints people have, but I can't even give the show a chance because his voice is fucking cancer to my ears.
>>150560447Calm down, Richtofen.
>>150559769Cowboy bebop rip off: the show
>>150601837>>150600167>>150601631NTA, but I think that was a thinly veiled caution that this board isn't as anonymous as you might think and trashing people has a way of coming back to haunt you. I'm replying to multiple posts here, but the person who needs to know will know.
>>150606459El Luz Extinguida...
>>150559855He's rich enough to afford to make this
>>150601631>>150606764Is this another one of those schizo "I'm 100% convinced some anon is the boogeyman from my Discord that I'm mad at" posts?I'm not the person you replied to, but I've had people start targeting me like this before.Stop it. Keep it on Discord.The voice effects do, in fact, sound very good. It's not some hyper-specific opinion only one person on earth could hold.
>>150561057That goat sounded like he was based on Cheech Marin. Shrike sounds like some limp-wristed Spanish twink.
>>150561332Don't forget that sex with a guy is a kiss of death due to their entire society being lesbian and results in a child.
>>150601554Because he keeps talking.
>>150605050I don't think Kara has any dyke IN her. She's in hardcore "I can't keep screwing up, I need people to take me seriously" mode. If she meets a guy who helps her recover a fumbled gig, the flirting will probably commence.
>>150605642I read a LOT. but only came across the last of a species actually having a term denoting it's status from the Kristina Applegate "Endling" (Endling: The Last, Endling: The First, Endling: The Only) series*.*Fantasy series about a young sapient, sentient, 3 foot tall biped canine with flying squirrel-like skin-flaps from her wrists to her knees named Byx, from an endangered species called Dairne, both reviled and hunted and prized by human rulers for their innate ability to act as living lie detectors, her journey to find more of her kind after humans burned her family's colony to the ground, and the many adventures and even wars she gets into on her journey, discovering that humans and non humans can still work together for common goals. Young adult, so no giggity giggity.
>>150607838Sorry, KATHERINE Applegate
>>150607335nobody is targeting anyone, dipshit. It's just friendly advice to a person. It won't make sense to you if you're not the person it was intended for (and it clearly wasn't given your aggro response). You've got mental issues if you interpreted this as being singled out or targeted.
>>150607362>That goat sounded like he was based on Cheech MarinI don't hear it. He sounds more like a general Mexican stereotype. >Shrike sounds like some limp-wristed Spanish twinkSounds about right. Actors will always have a bit of themselves in every character.
>>150607908I'm mostly mad because I kept having my own threads derailed by someone who was convinced I was some other guy, and now I notice that behavior everywhere.I'm like Batman, except instead of my parents dying, it was my threads.This place IS anonymous. Typing styles and opinions aren't enough to prove someone is who you think they are. Keep the drama to places with name tags, because otherwise you'll see your enemies everywhere you look.
>>150608748sounds like a you problem. Yes, there are dedicated schizos who will derail any conversations due to their massive hate boners. No, I am not one of them, and in all likelihood, my comment was not meant for you. Not everything is about you. >Typing styles and opinions aren't enough to prove someone is who you think they areI never said that it was. Just that the specific thing anon pointed out was oddly specific and that seemed to potentially indicate someone I knew. It was a friendly warning that they may not be as invisible as they think they are. There's no stalking, and I'm not trying to derail anything, but you seem to have to make this about you for some reason. You're not the main character of this particular story, so kindly fuck off. The comment would have made sense to the person it was meant for which, again, wasn't you.
>go to /tv/>barely anyone is actually talking about what happens in movies and shows, they're all fixated on box office and ratings>go to /v/>barely anyone is actually talking about what happens in games, they're all fixated on sales numbers and player metrics>go to /co/>barely anyone is actually talking about what happens in comics shows, they're all fixated on sales numbers and youtube viewsWhy is this?
>>150608824You misunderstand. I wasn't even part of the conversation, I was just explaining why I wanted to butt in unprompted.And if you don't want random artists like me interrupting your very important private conversations, maybe 4chan is the wrong venue for them.
>>150609052Typo: I meant "autists like me". That's what I get for phone-posting.
>>150609052>I've had people start targeting me like this before.>Stop it. Keep it on DiscordSeems like you took it quite personally. I understand that your neuro-divergence makes it difficult to read social situations, so I'll give you a pass.
>>150608967Its because you intentionally ignore discussion just so you have something to bitch about.
Not sure how I feel about the weird color thing. Is it just symbolism, some kind of religion, or are colors supposed to be some kind of power system?
>Nobody even posts the linkSigh.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2nZKiK9Xlw
>>150609537I'm hoping that it turns out to be a weird ideology that L.A.W forces because it suits them and has no actual basis in reality.
>>150609612Tezzorree..wife..
>>150608967You have to remember that 4chan is one of the last places online where spergs and aspies haven't been kicked out of yet for their annoying behavior.
>>150609672>spergs and aspiesMost of us call them jeets and jews.
>Know full damn well how horny cartoon fans are>Make entire eps with either no or damn little waifu contentDude has only himself to blame for low viewership.And the music is still ass. (I make these complaints in an inflammatory way because that's the sort of board this is, but I maintain that these really are big issues)
>>150609612Why don't they just rape her
>>150610029Because they are not human men
>Where are the Robot fuckers at?
>>150610179Zeurels organic characters somewhat suffered from the animation streamlining over the years, but his robots always looked great as long as he doesn't go into extreme sci-fi hologram/floating limb territory
>>150609537I think >>150578524 and >>150578873 have the right idea. the lore at the start of the episode reeks of revisionist propaganda. Also note how their the only ones made up of more than one color.
>>150609537Kind of feels like all three. The colors are used to label major parts of their leadership and organization, but there's also some physical element to it, considering that episode 4 happened because someone tried to use, "Red Ink in a Blue Drive."
>>150600315Just realized we caught a glimpse of her in episode 3And that the symbol on her spacesuit is the same as the medallion that Jawbone scavenged.
The only ending I’ll accept for this series is humanity earning reparations in the form of wives from all species
>Check the wiki to see if Kara's in this>"Cameo">lolno.Why would I want to spend my time watching a fat "bear" and a faux-mexican twink? Show's gay.
>>150610960I think based
>>150610960>We get stuck with the giant coatrack "women"Sigh.
>>150611037While I do this watching the show exclusively for the pretty kitty in skintight latex is extremely based, I'm of the opinion that the show isn't even about Shrike or Beebs. Its about the world they inhabit. They literally just exist as vehicles for us to experience the world.
>>150611115Who?
>>150611120>the pretty kitty in skintight latexI'm willing to accept other attractive women.Tyneen show up? No? Okay, we're back at the show being gay.>They literally just exist as vehicles for us to experience the world.Their world's gay.
>>150610893>glimpse of herThat's her mother and father, most likely.
>>150611280or her ancestors in general, the cataclysm was suppose to have been 200 years ago. Though I guess they could have shoved her in a life pod that kept her suspended.On the subject of just noticing something, the only thing Crow blasted with his corruption ray that turn completely evil was the vending machine shrike touched earlier9he's even less green). Don't know if that's going to be something important later or just a coincidence.
>>150611120That's why they feel so uninspired and lame
>>150568631 "if something doesn't make STUPID big numbers in three days, then it's a failure, regardless of positive criticism, fans, and artistic merit". That's what companies that want to make a profit think. The 3 things you mentioned mean nothing if the show doesn't make money."The mindset that kills good art for profit's sake."Do you know how pretentious you sound? Anything that isn't profitable isn't good art.
>>150611468The vending machine reminded me of a robot character that was paired with Lariat in another story (or OCT?) of Zeurel, so I wondered if it's gonna be a crew member until it got smashed.
>>150611468TDI looking shit
>>150572041>>150572191>>150572314This anon understands the problems.Shrike: dull instead of over-the-top insane.Beebs: since Shrike is so dull he can't play the voice of reason since Shrike usually isn't being unreasonable.I think they could work well if they were like Sam and Max: Freelance Police, with everyone else trying to deal with their insane antics. Although these type of characters don't work well with a plot.Also you can't do a marketing campaign if you don't know who your audience is meant to be.
>>150559855Why is this show so costly? He could use half of it and it would look the same
>>150611866Definitely not, the well animated space chase scenes and action are a stand out among other indie shows. Honestly, most indie shows budgets are around that cost, and most of them have like 1 action scene per episode sometimes, this one has multiple.
>>150611866Animating hair / flesh tendrils in zero gravity for every dialogue scene on the bucket.
>>150611468>200 yearsIts 8 centuries ago.
>Earthworm Jim: the webseries
>>150560371What the fuck is that thing?
>>150611120>While I do this watching the show exclusively for the pretty kitty in skintight latex is extremely based, I'm of the opinion that the show isn't even about Shrike or Beebs. Its about the world they inhabit. They literally just exist as vehicles for us to experience the world.You can do that with, well, "everyman" characters that don't take over the scene. Frodo can walk along, appreciating the scenery and allowing us to do the same. Shrike is extremely loud and obnoxious. He does not allow us to just experience the worldbuilding, Jefe.
Something is a success if you can make a living doing it. I despise the megacorp/Disney way of doing things. "Sure it made a profit and everyone that worked on it could pay their rent, but not ENOUGH of a profit to satisfy the shareholders so we're shutting this down."If Zeurel has fun and can make a living doing this it's a success. If he has fun but he's losing money after five episodes in it's at least a partial failure. If he's not having fun and is losing money then... well, I don't think that's the case.
>>150601631I'm the guy that posted that and I only said that because voice effects and sound effects are grouped together in the budget. Which I think is odd because they are on two different levels.
So the secret to succeeding in internet animation is having a small dedicated fanbase?
>>150614846Based. Artistic persists should have never been subject to the whims of shareholders.
>>150615008The entire "the line must go up" religion was a mistake. Nothing should be getting shut down if it's "only" making enough money to cover production costs and salaries.
The main guy looks like that guy from the Weird Al flash videos
this looks like ass
>>150598158he keeps them on the inside
>>150614861BEEbi BO bumcaring about this is really dumb
So is the plot good?
kino series
>>150560792Dr. Wily?
>>150614865That or luck
>>150560792I knew it was that guy by his exaggerated German accent
>>150569111>tripsMy god... it all makes sense...
>>150571793>crotch-guard for crotchless flesh golemswhat did the Combine mean by this???
>>150614865A good strategy for success in general is to appeal to a specific niche who really like what you do. Mass appeal is great if you can luck into it but it's probably not something you should be aiming for out of the gate. (I'm by no means an expert, I just read This is Marketing by Seth Godin recently).
>>150600315I want OG Lariat :(
>>150606741It's more like outlaw star than bebop.Even has space ships with punching arms too.And a dumb sexy catwoman who tries to kill the main characters.
>>150606333Hum the theme of Avatar. You can't. It's not memorable and no one noticed it even while watching the movie, but everyone can hum Jurassic Park. When it comes to music if you don't know the musician you don't know what you will get and there is no guarantee it will be good.
>more nude scenesbased?
>>150606459An anthropomorphized hotdog after it was left in a microwave and exploded a bit.
>>150609612What are her crimes? Please be prostitution
>>150618807Says here that she allows men to take her home, the kills hem, only real-slow-like, making it last several days. But according to this, she insists she's reformed, and promises that she's learned her lesson and it won't happen again.
>>150618772He's gettinh desperate for that gay audience huh
Who is this show trying to appeal to, i'm confused
>>150614846That's because corpos are run by very neurotic peopleA very specific neurotic people
MONKEY STENCH
>>150614846except you can express yourself artistically and in spite of everyone else without wasting thousands on dollars on something that looks like a flop to the average person.
>>150559769this looks like some nortubel looking ahh shi
>>150617423Nah, new design is hotter
>>150600315Show’s gonna blow up when she gets the spotlight, trust. Just like Day Job.
Why did the MC get such a shitty redesign
>>150618769>everyone can hum Jurassic ParkYou're setting up a false sense of worth. The function of a score in a film is not to be hummable. It's to help broadcast the emotional elements of the narrative. Here's a better challenge - try to hum the *functional* parts of the score in Jurassic Park. What's the music when the characters are being stalked by the tyrannosaurus rex in the jeep and when the lawyer runs to the toilet? What's the score when the characters are hiding from the raptors? What's the score when the characters are walking along having a humorous chat? You can't. You can only really hum the wide pan shots when nobody is talking and nothing is really happening. Trends also change, and the sweeping score moments that we got in the 80s and 90s are not how films are scored anymore. Composers are still capable of doing that, but there are fewer spaces for those huge iconic leitmotif-establishing moments in modern films and directors don't want them. Changes in stylistic trends are always happening. In the 80s and 90s when the big Romantic-era-influenced John Williams moments were popular, we were no longer getting the Bernard Herrmann moments of the 50s/60s. >no one noticed it even while watching the movieYou say this like it's a bad thing, but I'd argue that if you came away from a movie thinking about how good the music was, then the composer inserted too much of themselves into the film. It would be like coming away thinking "the lighting was really fantastic!" Those elements can definitely be spectacular, but the general takeaway should be "that movie was amazing" to which elements like the score and lighting contributed to. A lighting designer can be capable of doing some really crazy shit, but their job is not about showing off. It's about figuring out what is appropriate. >if you don't know the musicianno shit. Same thing happens if you don't know the actor or the writer or whatever. You don't just hire random people.
So is he now trying to appeal to coomers to get views
>>150582855>Your cooperation is appreciated!He's such a polite fellow.
How much time do you give it before it gets cancelled
>>150618772But not Kara, huh?All of these 'indie creators' are so afraid of female nudity, it's almost comical.
>>150621507I don't think it will.
It's crazy how shit the design of the main character is
>>150560877I guarantee he lost a lot of would be fans because of that too who just forgot about it cause suddenly the video they liked is gone and the channel they subbed to for it isn't uploading anything anymore . It's my favorite current Youtube series and it's frustrating. Zeurel is super talented but makes weird decisions, like erasing his Deviantart.
>Monkey Wrench>Shrike and Beebs aren't monkeys or monkey-like aliens>But Shrike wields a wrench as a weapon, Ratchet style, right?>Nope, generic sci-fi blasterWhat an genuinely awful title, it feels like it's a pun but isn't. It literally doesn't tell the audience anything about the setting or characters. Shows like The Amazing Digital Circus, Knights of Guinevere, and Murder Drones having actually fitting titles is probably why he gets mogged in views.
>>150621934None of the characters in Cowboy Bebop are cowboys or named bebop. Is that a bad name?
>>150621763Autism makes you retarded
>>150621592Kara ENF soon, trust the plan. Her ultimate humiliation ritual is on the horizon.
>>150621507It's Zeurel's passion project. He's gotten this far, I think he's going to see it through.
>>150621763>like erasing his DeviantartI'd argue that Deviantart forced his hand when they announced that anything on their platform would be sold to AI companies to feed to their meat grinder. It's hard to blame any artist for fucking off after that.
Where is the monkey and the wrench?
>>150621934>hurr durr, they're not monkeysThat sort of pun would be more necessary if this was a show for the under 8 crowd>>150622075>None of the characters in Cowboy Bebop are cowboys or named bebopThis. Out of all the things that people criticize Monkey Wrench for, the idea that the characters should be monkeys and wield literal wrenches is the most stupid. It's the sort of thing that completely media illiterate 'tards who mostly watch tiktok and talking heads on youtube would think up. Fucking morons.
To the retards and ESLs, "monkey wrench" is a slang term, or "throwing a wrench in the works" means to cause disruption or chaos in a system. You know, like dropping a wrench into a machine. If you've watched the show at all, especially episodes 4 and 5, you'd understand why.
Holy DOWNGRADE
>>150623815This character probably went through an event that left him looking like the one in your pic in the second or third season, or at least I want to believe that.
>>150623815learn how to save images you dumb fucking phoneposter
>>150623815Damn, Zeruel really fell off
>>150623815This bit almost makes Shrike look like a living Swastika.
>>150560357>>150560547Sucks that they will probably make them lesbos
>>150625150They're backround characters.
>>150622075It has a space western setting with bounty hunters and desert saloons and jazz music is heavily present throughout the series while Bebop is the name of their ship. The Cowboy Bebop title is more related to what happens in it's series than Monkey wrench is.
Will Donkey Kong become part of this show? It's called Monkey Wrench