>>150544605>I wish DC'd let me write a 6-issue miniseries about Killer Moth. I think I've got some good ideas for a revamped origin story and initial confrontation with Batman.Well, go on then. Share your idea. How would you revamp Killer Moth?
>>150610690Moth who kills people.
>>150610690 He fights bat-themed xenos in the 41st millennium.
>>150610690>I've got some good ideas>revamped origin storyKill yourself
>>150610969>that one Night Lord that was totally done with Curze's shit long before the Heresy
>>150610690Actually rich as fuck socialite, like he is what batman only pretends to be x10, who does it for the lulz. Mainly because he sucks at it and it's something to do. He actually knows batgirl is barbara gordon and toys with her.
>>150610690Have Killer Moth die and have his identity be passed around to random crooks, eventually Killer Moth gangs infest Gotham and the police can't keep up with the bastards because they all fly and carry guns that shoot cocoon sticky fluids at them
>>150610690Make his costume Black and White, The design is same but it's in Black and white now
>>150613344Not black and white; the colors of the death's head hawk moth.
>>150612383A revamp doesn't need be disrespectful to the source material. It could just be a cleaning up of messy ideas into something more coherent.
>>150613839That would make look too similar to Firefly though with all that yellow
>>150610690killer moth is a lawyer that helps criminals get out of jail
>>150613913He's not gonna wear a moth themed suit in court is he?
>>150613949KILLER MOTH: PUBLIC DEFENDER
>>150610690Since no one would take Killer Moth seriously I'd go all in on being a Batman distraction.Hire Killer Moth while your crew sneaks into a bank and Killer Moth is across town doing a smash and grab on three different jewelry store one after another.
>>150613856Kill yourself
>>150615281Why're you such a humorless, imagination-starved cunt of a man?
>>150615898Awwww, Is the itty bitty baby bitch scared of the mean old nasty Anon's opinion?
>>150615986I'm annoyed that you're getting your yuks from stymying on-topic conversation, but since you're just here to troll, whatever. You're already miserable. There's nothing I can say that'll make you feel something you don't already know about yourself.
>>150616017Just ignore him and post your ideas.
>>150613856>It could just be a cleaning up of messy ideas into something more coherentThe fact that you don’t think that’s a disrespectful attitude is genuinely alarming. Not shocking in the least but sad and alarming.
>>150610690Bump it
>>150616676While normally I'd agree with you, KM's history is kind of a mess due to reboots. Pre-Crisis and post-Crisis are two different people, or at least have two different and incompatible backstories, was turned into a giant monster, killed off, replaced by a succession of nameless copycats that were also killed off, showed up out of costume with a completely different civilian identity and then killed off, rebooted into a GA villain in Nu52, and then showed up again as his pre-IC self with no explanation of how he alive or a human being again. Or it might just be the old BatMoth threads managed to create a pretty good fanon version of KM by building off what already existed and jettisoning/repurposing some of the less workable parts and there is no way I'm going to listen to some rando on the internet scream badwrongfun when crackship threads managed to handle the character better than DC has.
>>150610690All I know is that I'd introduce TT Killer Moth as his brother, and he would go by the name of Charaxes.I know it's kind of an unpopular opinion in these threads, since most seem to prefer just making Drury a dad, but I consider comics KM and TT KM way too different to just make the former like the latter, so I'd just introduce the one from the show as a separate, but still related, character to Drury, and then he could be a loser uncle.Also, I don't think Drury would be able to score with anyone lol
>>150610690Return him to his roots. Wasn't the original concept for Killer Moth basically Batman but for the bad guys? He goes around saving crooks and villains from cops and heroes. That makes him tons more unique than just Gotham villain #718 who just happens to have a moth theme for his costume.
I liked how Rosenberg wrote him.
>>150616727Ditto
What was his next appearance after that team-up with Joker?
>>150616971>was turned into a giant monster, killed off, replaced by a succession of nameless copycats that were also killed off, showed up out of costume with a completely different civilian identity and then killed off, rebooted into a GA villain in Nu52, and then showed up again as his pre-IC self with no explanation of how he alive or a human being again.Either one of his moth clones grew into a copy of the original, or he slipped through the cracks with timeline fuckery.
>>150616971>when crackship threads managed to handle the character better than DC has.To be fair, Barbara having a crush on him with his deep principal voice was a very vivid starting point.
>>150610690I wouldn't too much, he's be the most C-list villain imaginable. Capable and competent to pull of jobs UNTIL there's a cape or a better villain to stop him. He's got a decent sized fortune as being an anti-batman.Pic somewhat related, but make his colors colorful.
>>150617176>RosenbergWhat else does he worked on?
>>150619735So like mosta-listers, still effective against cops.
>>150610767Wow
>>150620916Yeah, effective against cops and listers below him, and can do pretty well against noobs sorta like what Shocker can do.
>>150610690Would they let you though?
>>150619428Helps that it also gave Babs some spice to her character as well.>>150620916>>150621755Personal take? He should be excellent in his lane. You want a guy to hold off the Bats and the cops while you get away, he's your man. But whenever he makes a move for more grandiose supervillainy he just can't quite get over.
>>150613122There’s an animatic about them with the 6 piece chicken mcnobody audio from Space Ghost but I can’t fucking find it.
>>150623245Honestly, fanfic has been getting some attention from companies lately. Though unless you have millions of followers/readers and have some lgbtq content, DC isn't likely to look at you.
>>150619299He outwitted Damian and Tim. Except his real target was Jason. He hasn't kept track of Robins too well.
>>150624992Jason stabbed him last time. He should consider himself lucky.
>>150617083This, exactly. Killer Moth should be for crooks who Batman is for cops.
>>150619735>Thanks to Booster Gold, it's canon that the only thing holding Killer Moth back from taking over Gotham is the success of one major heist. He just needs one good day.
>>150625675Except KM will hang you upside down from a light post and use you as a punching bag if you hold out on him.
>>150625727Oh, absolutely. Does he get a gang, or more a crew? Or does that detract from his "anti-Batman" narrative? Because I can see the value in having some "mothmen" assistants, but maybe they're not in the field, so to speak?
>>150625797Going by Booster Gold and Batgirl Year One, he hires from the local talent pool whenever he needs extra muscle.
>>150624992I like how he's fighting more of the Batfamily. Though I do like the notion of him being Barbara's personal Batgirl nemesis.
I did some fiddling around and came up with this. Changes are relatively easy to make if you've got suggestions.
>>150626420Try purple body suit and cape exterior, yellow gloves, boots, helmet, and logo, green belt and eyes. Cape lining either green or match the fur.
>>150626588Something like this?
>>150626716>>150626420Personally I like more prominent antennae.
>>150626716Yes, I think yellow for the helmet works best.
>>150626420>>150626716Make him gray
>>150627107Too bland. KM needs color. He's a distraction.
>>150627406Which means he should absolutely carry a flare gun. Perfect for ruining those I AM THE NIGHT moments.
I love killer moth. He should be used as the anti-batman more.
>>150627514>ne'er-do-wells are scuttling across a warehouse floor>suddenly the lights cut out and the skylight shatters as the cloaked form of Batman descends in a shaft of moonlight>"I AM VENGEN-">lights kick back on, Killer Moth and his goons are standing there with guns drawn>I REWIRED THE BUILDING BEFORE YOU SHOWED UP, BITCH!
>>150626971Isn't his helmet traditionally green or mauve? I'd say keep to that, and use orange instead of yellow. Keeping him with a secondary color pallet seems best.
>>150626420>>150626716I really like how the wings on his chest insignia are rotated Ms.>>150627924This kind of almost playful cat-and-mouse game makes me think he'd treat Batman as more a professional rival than as a nemesis. I'm almost thinking he'd need an attitude like Shocker's, where it's a job for him and not a vendetta.
>>150613886Firefly isn't usually yellow. At least not in modern versions.
>>150628314He can pick any color he wants.
>>150628292He's marketed himself as the Anti-Batman. If it becomes a vendetta, he's no different than any flavor of the week villain. Gotta keep the eyes on the prize, going the distance against the Bats and a successful getaway for his clients means he gets a share along with his non-refundable deposit.
>>150628292>I really like how the wings on his chest insignia are rotated Ms.Thanks! I was proud of that detail.
>>150628607He hasn't looked like that for decades.
>>150629315And probably never has in current continuity, but it'd be a fun old-shame if he had.
Anyone else like the idea of Drury figuring out everyone's secret identity not because he's gotten his memory back but because they have been so careless about it that he's pieced it together?
The beast boy cartoon had killer moth and he was treated as a legit threat Definitely feel taking inspiration from it would be funhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JARN9VAXtx4&pp=ygUVQmVhc3QgYm95IGtpbGxlciBtb3Ro0gcJCRsBo7VqN5tD
>>150630222I had no idea Beast Boy had a cartoon! And I'm happy that even though he's a serious threat here, KM still isn't immune to grievous bodily slapstick.
>>150628250Helmet is usually green, yellow, or silver. >>150628292>>150628738>It's all about the mindset. When you make it personal you get stupid and do shit like wear a suit of radioactive space rocks and hit Metropolis to play king of the mountain. The Bat make me money. I go out of my way to kill him, might as well just head on down to the SNAP office. Other than broke what does that get me? Nightwing coming for my ass, two Robins coming for my ass, three Batgirls, Catwoman if they're on again, probably Red Hood, maybe Huntress, and the power ranger he's got running the day shift. And that's assuming none of his Justice League pals show up. >Boss, you've gone out of your way to try and kill Batman a buncha times.>I'm not going out of my way to not kill him. You roll the dice every night. But I'm not too proud to admit that sometimes I have let my anger get the better of me and I just get too wrapped up in the moment. But that's life, you know? >We spent all of last month turning an abandoned factory into a deathtrap maze and faking kidnappings to lure him there so you could kill him. You called the whole thing off when the arrow guy showed up instead.>...Gettin' real sick of your shit, Dennis.
>>150610690I make him Lady Killer Moth. He gives up being a villain and becomes a player with several super powered girl friends. He lives off all of them. Things are going great, but then the girls all find out about one another. Some of them try to kill off the competition; others try to kill him; a few do both an there are at least two that are into it. The city descends into chaos as KM’s love life implodes.
>>150630677This was the 69th post in the thread.
>>150630677Nice dubs.
>>150630181I like the idea that he pieced it together through observation and deduction but no one believes him and he's got gaps where he has no information that he can work with. He knows Bruce, Dick, Damian, and Babs, has no idea about Tim and Cass, doesn't know the second Robin is alive and is now Red Hood, and thinks all three of Steph's identities are different people.>>150630677>In hindsight dating nine women at the same time was a doomed endeavor, but you cannot call yourself a man until you have stood upon the precipice of creation and rolled the dice against God himself. >That's some real poetic MRA cope bullshit there, Mothy. But between you and your favorite Batgirl, where do I rank among the women out to kick your ass?>Is trapped on the roof of a burning building really the time for this, Red?
>>150630222Same
>>150630543>You called the whole thing off when the arrow guy showed up instead.
>>150610690Him and the misfits should be a bigger item, just c-listers bumbling their way through over-the-top criminal schemes while trying to stay under Batman's radar
>>150610690He's meant to be an "Anti-Batman" so lean into that.>He starts out as a family man that was huge Batfag >Has a daughter that is also a big Batman/Robin fan>One day while driving him and daughter get harrassed by corrupt cops>In the middle of it all some criminals end up pulling a heist by coincidence causing a shoot out between cops and robbers>Through the chaos daughter indirectly gets shot/killed by cops>This breaks him. Get's depressed for a year, divorces his wife, etc. >About to end it all but one day see's the Bat Signal in the sky and get's a new idea/purpose >Goes full nihilism and new philosophy about the line between good and evil, law and crime isn't real or the very least bare thin>Becomes a merc that helps out criminals with the justification/logic being that he can "make crimes go more smoothly and reduce/prevent causilties" thus being a "win for everyone">Despite this being used as justification is very vindictive/blood thristy and is onboard with revenge/murder if the criminal/super villain has a sad enough sob story and perpetrator is an asshole i.e. Rupert Thorne, Ferris Boyle, etc. >Is moreso used as someone that shows up to help other villains rather than have his own grand plan>Not a very good fighter but is crafty and amicable personality makes him have many allies with B-listers and less psychotic villainsMy version of what an "evovled" Killer Moth would be is someone sorta akin to Dr. Killinger from Venture Bros. A villain whose job is to support other villains and even encourage them to continue down what is clearly their worst path but in such a friendly way he fools both others and himself his bad advice is "logical".
>>150631296Seeing how much crime happens in Gotham, they are absolutely pulling off the craziest heists in the background while the Batfamily is busier with bigger criminals and villains.
IDK about Killer Moth but I have a 100% clear cut concept for how to make the Eraser work perfectly in Batman's rogues gallery.>Leonard Fiasco, by day, is the Gotham underworld's choice lawyer for criminal defense cases.>To most he looks like some gaudy schmuck in a yellow suit with a pencil stache, but he's extremely effective at what he does, turning what would normally be death penalty cases into insanity pleas and even acquittals 90% of the time, through mostly underhanded means. He makes a ridiculous amount of cash from guys like the Penguin, the Riddler, and the Joker calling him in, enough to have his own law firm.>His alter ego, meanwhile, is the Eraser, Gotham's best cleaner. For an extra amount of cash, he comes to the crime scenes of his clients and wipes away any incriminating evidence. Bloodstains get cleaned, drugs get removed from the scene of the crime, and dead bodies get dumped in acid.>He's really good about keeping his hands clean too, never committing crimes himself and always making sure he has an out.>He has almost no actual fighting skill though, one hit and he's down.>Two-Face also despises him, considering that he was the biggest pain up his ass when he uses to be Gotham's district attorney.Effectively, he's what would happen if Daredevil and Saul Goodman fused together.
>>150631472Him being a lawyer/Saul Goodman expy is a pretty clever way to make him more relavent in stories and combine his secret identity with his role as a cleaner. Good one anon.
>>150610690I think Killer Moth and characters like that have use beyond joke villains like some people like to make them out to be. For example take The Eraser, Eraser's whole bit is he leaves no evidence. He's the perfect cleaner for a criminal organization. Yes he dresses like a giant pencil, but you can get some genuinely good material out of him.
>>150631472What the fuck I didn't see this before I posted >>150631515 I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks it's a good idea, and I love the way you fleshed him out
>>150631472>>Leonard Fiasco, by day, is the Gotham underworld's choice lawyer for criminal defense cases.>>Two-Face also despises him, considering that he was the biggest pain up his ass when he uses to be Gotham's district attorney.This would make the next kangaroo court at Arkham more entertaining.
>>150631314>>One day while driving him and daughter get harrassed by corrupt cops>>In the middle of it all some criminals end up pulling a heist by coincidence causing a shoot out between cops and robbers>>Through the chaos daughter indirectly gets shot/killed by copsNow that's what I call edgy!
>>150631954My thinking is that it's an inverse of Batman's origin.
>>150631314>and perpetrator is an asshole i.e. Rupert Thorne, Ferris Boyle, etc.There are so many rich assholes in Gotham.
>>150631779>This court is now in session! The Honorable Judge Joker presiding! For our first case we've got the people of Arkham versus Assistant District Attorn->Motion to recuse yourself, Judge Joker, conflict of interest. The defendant has prosecuted you on at least three prior occasions.>Who are you?>Lenny Fiasco, defense attorney. If you don't recuse yourself I'm going to have to file for a mistrial and we're just going to waste everyone's time. >I...You realize the point of this court is->Is to poke fun at institutional justice as a concept by inversion - criminals putting non-criminals on trial - but if you fail to adhere to the actual rules and structure of the justice system you sail right past satire and straight into strawmanning, your Honor.>Bailiff Croc, rip this man's arms off.>You shittin' me? He just got me out of an armed robbery charge with time served.>Thanks, Waylon, next time you need an appeal it's pro bono.
>>150631032>>150630677He gets these three easy. Who are the rest?
>>150632776I loved how the BatMoth threads made Tiger Moth Dru's shitbag ex-wife.
I would make Yeti from the first Lego Batman game canon
>>150632917Is he an actual Yeti, or a Mr. Freeze minion that went solo?
>>150632881It was an inspired addition, especially considering what's there to build off of.
>>150632391>>Bailiff Croc, rip this man's arms off.>>You shittin' me? He just got me out of an armed robbery charge with time served.kek
>>150632950I think he underwent some kind of horrific transformation, but yeah I imagine he'd start as a henchman who strikes out on his own
My pick for underutilized Batman villain now that Eraser and Killer Moth are already getting love here? Tally Man. Tally Man is more unnerving than the name would suggest. Also I want to see Firebug and Firefly get into some kind of battle of the arsonists
>>150633355I'm sorry. I just can't stop thinking of that one song whenever I read "Tally Man".
>>150633355Redpill me on Tally Man. What makes him unnerving?
>>150633728He has a really fucked up backstory where he was a poor child and his mother kept having to pay off his father's debts to criminals. One day his mother couldn't pay and the criminal beat her, so he killed the debt collector with a fire poker. He got taken away from his family and put into juvenile prison at 12. When he returned, he found that his sister had starved to death and his mother had killed herself. He had absolutely nothing left so it broke him and he emerged years later dressed as an old tax collector, collecting "debts" for the criminals who he works for, but the debts he collects are the lives of his victims.
>>150632917He's based on the snowman from batmans comic
>>150633787I can see the resemblance but I still think it would be cool to have Yeti running around too, Snowman doesn't use a gun
>>150633805Oh totally agree
>>150633355>Also I want to see Firebug and Firefly get into some kind of battle of the arsonistsHow does Gotham get so many arsonists?
>>150633787>>150633355There should be a Fire and Ice War.
>>150610690I wouldn't
>>150610690Bump
add onto the teen titans version where he's a normal guy under the suit with a family of some sort but he's batman for criminals as a mercenary. batman humiliates him which causes him become his second form, but still doing the same things as a real killer moth but ultimately becomes a legend for criminals.
make cavalier his gay best friend
>>150610690bump
>>150637298I'd be down with this. We need some lighter villains in Gotham.
>>150634510Snowman yeti vs firefly
>>150631472I was always weirded out how no one made Eraser edgy or something, the guy has a genuinely good gimmick in universe. Being the best cleaner around due to him making a product that can just erase shit.
>>150634203Arsony is easy
>>150639527They could easily keep the pencil suit gimmick but also give him a hazmat version that he uses to clean up crime scenes and the pencil helmet is a splatterguard for safety
>>150638990Snowman and Yeti vs Firefly and Firebug would be great. Maybe work Mr. Freeze in there but I don't know who the third arsonist would be
Just make Moth and Firefly a couple of queers. One of them is already flaming.
>>150639584Killer Moth already distanced himself from Firefly because Firefly was too deranged
What if we did a war type event idea with these revised villains? Eraser, Tallyman, Yeti, Firefly, Moth etc?
>>150639910It could work but I'd like to see them operate in their own circles first and show their potential as villains
>>150639910I don't really trust editorial or the writer's staff with grand Batman events at the moment
>>150610969>>150613122I want this canonized WAY more than I should....
>>150639910>>150639927>The D-List WarInstead of the usual bullshit where someone kills a less popular villain to establish them as a threat, it's the lesser renown villains of Gotham teaming up to take on a group of murderous vigilantes with the Bats caught in the crossfire.
>>150640923Sounds like something Jason would be mixed up in. Maybe Helena if you want to mix things up.
>>150610969>>150626420Well now I'm just imagining Killer Moth as some evil Kamen Rider. Like maybe rather than training like Batman he used his money to cybernetically enhance his body.
Prisoner 235026, maybe 19 years old and already in Blackgate for a 5-year stretch. He's not Drury Walker, not yet, and he's certainly not Cameron van Cleer; both of those come later.At that point, looking out the window of his cell, he's just some kid staring at the Gotham skyline and thinking about his future. "What am I going to do with my life?" he wonders... and then, in the distance, the Bat-Signal lights up the sky. The kid spends the next five years studying from the other crooks in the pen, mastering all of their skills in a truncated mimicry of Batman's developmental journey, so that he can emerge from prison as Killer Moth.
>>150640923>Drury ends up killing a couple of them>it’s ruled as self-defence, though
I'd write him having a similar role to Taskmaster or Shocker in Marvel. He's a professional supervillain with an emphasis on PROFESSIONAL. This is his job. He's not in the capes and tights business because of some tragic backstory or supervillain origin story, he's in it because it's a payday better than anything else available and he's good at it.Killer Moth has been doing this a long time (his first appearance was fucking 1951 for god's sake), he's lasted as long as he has by carving out a niche for himself. He's part of the superhero ecosystem, he doesn't rock the boat, he's not stupid enough to try and unmask Batman or hurt his family, he doesn't open fire into crowds of civilians, he shows up at Gotham Central Bank with a giant sack with $$$ written on it and asks the bank staff to start opening safety deposit boxes and putting as much cash and jewels in as will fit. He's nobody's nemesis and works to keep it that way. When the heroes are told "There's a meteor heading towards Star City, Mongul's come demanding Superman's head, and there's a string of robberies in Gotham, including Killer Moth doing a diamond heist!" he doesn't want anyone jumping up out of their seat going "THAT BASTARD KILLER MOTH, I'LL MAKE HIM PAY!"His costume is colorful and flashy and he shouldn't be ashamed or embarrassed about it, you don't need some edgy reinvention of it, he dresses like a Supervillain on purpose to signal his profession; regular civilians and cops love any excuse to give up and let something be someone else's problem. The cape and tights are an industry uniform.
>>150643164>regular civilians and cops love any excuse to give up and let something be someone else's problemAnd the ones that try to be a hero get cocooned. He ain't getting a murder charge added because somebody wanted to look tough on tiktok. Try looking tough pawing your way out of a bundle of sticky artificial silk.
>>150643145>What happened to the Human Bomb?>Relax. I cocooned him next to Nitroglycerin Man.>BOOM>It's... so beautiful! >...shut up, Garfield.
>>150643316>Alright, I get the roidhead was thinking he could intimidate you with creatine bloat, and Captain Midlife Crisis here wanted something to brag about at the office on Monday, but what the fuck did granny do to get her cocooned?>.44 in the purse, shitty aim, and an uncomfortable amount of racial, ethnic, and sexual slurs.
>>150644051>>.44 in the purse, shitty aim, and an uncomfortable amount of racial, ethnic, and sexual slurs.
>>150639594>>150619299Enough money usually sways KM.
>>150610690Killer Moth need a better redesign, though.
>>150639569Phosphorus Rex
>>150646207He's been wearing all purple. I miss the stripes.
>>150646995How would you incorporate them?
>>150610690To me the ideal Killer Moth book would feel like a mix of the Venture Brothers, Superior Foes of Spider-Man, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, and Breaking Bad.Just going deep into the logistics of how supervillainy operates in the DC Universe while Killer Moth and his dipshit friends like Firefly, Ratcatcher, and Cavalier try to make it big in the scene.
>>150610690Such a cool character with 0 good stories
>>150647098My personal thought is leg straps for drop leg holsters where he keeps heavy items like his cocoon gun on his utility belt and kneepads. I'd like a KM who has less of a bespoke costume look and more "I stayed up all night dying military surplus webbing neon green." As a design feature though, a smaller number of wide stripes looks better than a larger number of thin stripes.
>>150647542Batgirl Year One. Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing. And various Batgirl stories that may hit or miss.
>>150647600>I'd like a KM who has less of a bespoke costume look and more "I stayed up all night dying military surplus webbing neon green."Let's be honest. He is absolutely the type to blow money on custom gear whenever he's riding high off of a successful heist, but he's not above re-equipping at Wal-Mart when he's low on funds.
>>150647600Still working on how I'm going to fit the belt beneath the chest piece, but here's what I'm working on so far.
>>150631314Contrived rationalization for being a bad guy lacks verisimiltude
He changes personality in every appearance. At one point they made him act like a foppish
>>150648087Most of his budget is probably spent on keeping his flight pack running.
>>150648275I think I forgot what I was going to say here...
I have an idea for a condiment king rework who's a cook at arkham who specializes in cooking the crazy shit all the prisoners have to eat, and one day joker asks him to cook a giant pressurized can of surstromming for killer croc, he does, but joker and a couple of other baddies use that pressurized surstromming as a bomb, blow up the cafeteria and escape. They take the chef with them, because they like his cooking, and he ends up being traded around between gotham villains, each wanting him in their entourages so he can make them food, and in captivity in each of their gangs, he learns new skills and gets new stuff (joker gives him chemicals to cook with, poison ivy gives him weird plants, etc etc) that eventually culminates in him becoming condiment king
>>150648347>poison ivy gives him weird plants, etc Already canon for one version at least. His Birds of Prey appearance showed that Condiment King when done right should be a master of kitchen chemical warfare.
Going for a more spandex look with this one.
>>150648347
>>150648459Aside from the logo, feels like it's missing something.
>>150648247Gesundheit.
>>150648278I keep thinking on how that thing should work and have settled on electro-static levitation, but hard light projection would be really fancy and still allow him to use it as an umbrella.
>>150610767Has he killed people in the comics?
>>150648858>>150648459It might be too dark overall. I can try brightening the colors, and adding back the logo.Also, cape or wings? Wings are great for a quick getaway, but should they be a regular feature?>>150650420He used to carry a gun and shoot at cops, but I don't know if he ever killed anyone. I think that stopped once he got his cocoon-gun and went with a more nonlethal approach.
>>150610767DC, HIRE THIS MAN!
>>150610690He is a Killer Moth alright.
>>150650420Yeah, the workers that completed his hideout. Just to keep it secret.
>>150651232>I think that stopped once he got his cocoon-gun and went with a more nonlethal approach
I would like it if killer mouth got his name from how much if a pussy hound he is. His hired goons and fellow costumef crooks jokingly called him lady killer moth.But after some shenanigans where they thought he actually killed ladies rather then kill pussy BKD, he decided hevneeded to chsnge his image. So i seduced and fucked a reporter so she woukd report him as killer moth and create pr for him. And he later gave her a few stories and even kidnapped her once as a way to prove they arent connected to help build her career.He knows the game. Plays well and has a few stand ins he's hired and trained to pretend to be killer moth to throw them off the trail and be the next killer moth ufvsnthing happens. TT killer moth was on if those men. But he was a mad scientist type and got ideas from langstrom. Can have him call the "rogues" a bunch of egotistical primmadonnas and dumb asses for fucking up the villainy game in keystone city.He loves toying with batgirl and will be her catwoman equivalent. Subtly dropping clues here and there and becoming remarkably competent in his dealings with her.
>>150653492Why do the helmets have mouths?
>>150653842>Why do the helmets have mouths?
>>150653962That's a ninja turtle!
>>150653842For a while they were treating him like some sort of Killer Croc-style mutant.For me, I think Killer Moth should absolutely take tech or gear in exchange for his services, at least in part. A freeze ray or some fear toxin in exchange for a lower percentage of the take; things like that.
>>150651232Wings but they need to be bigger than how they're usually portrayed. Moth wings are blocky and large, I don't know why artists insist on giving him these thin, barely there wings.
>>150654314>You have three canisters of fear toxin in your possession, Killer Moth, hand them over immediately or you'll regret it.>Sorry, Bats, traded them to Mr. Freeze for a freeze gun and a high-powered, rapid cooling unit. And before you ask, I traded the freeze gun to a guy on Facebook Marketplace for a boat motor.
>>150654737Yeah, they give him wasp wings for some reason.
>>150655797Less complicated to draw, easier for lazy artists.
>>150655969Moths have wings that could be simplified down to two irregular triangles.
Spandex, armor, or tacticool?
>>150657373More textured and looking like actual fabric than spandex with a bit of an armored look, but not so far as it being obvious body armor. His appearance in Batgirls struck a nice balance in my opinion.
>>150657373Tacticool. Like Bale's Batman.
>>150657373Highly advanced but strategically made to look like a cheap jumpsuit.
>>150658025>Check it, underlayer is a next-gen, sweat-wicking, smart compression, thermoregulating, full body piece. Over that is a full coverage soft armor suit rated against knives, ice picks, and pistol rounds, then my hard armor which is a custom composite of ceramics and flex panels capable of stopping rifle rounds at 20 yards with integrated circuitry that can not only tell me where I've been hit but the parts of the armor likely to be compromised. And to top it off, a breathable, stretchable outer layer that doubles up on my blade protection while also being fireproof. My clothes alone cost as much as a small car, and we haven't even gotten to the accessories and weapons.>You look like Halloween store clown, Daddy.>It's called strategic deception, Kitten.>It's called looking like you're embarrassing me!
Modified the logo a bit. I wish the program gave me a greater variety of wings; I can't find anything that looks the way I want, either as a wing-y cape or as his flight-pack. Hopefully this still gets the idea across.
>>150659118Sorry, I forgot to upload the image.
>>150659129I don't think the death's head moth motif works. It comes off as the laziest thing in the world to add to him.
>>150659754I think it works. Though Batgirls had put it on his flight pack.
>>150659754You know, that's a fair critique. Killer Moth having a skull and a moth on his chest is a little on the nose.>>150659812But having it somewhere else might work, as is the case here.I'll remove the skull from the next iteration.
>>150659812I'm talking more about a meta perspective. It's kinda like the trend from 20 years ago of replacing huge swaths of color with black in costume redesigns.
