Bump if you're reading.
Monitoring this thread for disappointment
>>150635513Oof, that's a hulk-tier mini-bossSo why is he going to lose like a bitch jobber
>>150635557Should've been Carol
>>150635547My HERO!!
>>150635543Rocket knows Spider-Man, right? How does he not instantly pick up that Peter is the same guy?
>>150635533>one-shottedYou tell me there wasn't any other space bad guy available to take a beating?
>>150635521"I hate symbiotes". I really don't want to be close when he discover what happened to Mary Jane recently.
>>150635543Aren't Drax and Groot dead?
>>150635547This is alright
>>150635587I'm not sure Ewing needed to shove in a reminder for why MJ was Venom, maybe editorial told him to, since they expect more people to pick up a #250 issue
>>150635491Another waifu for Peter to not tap.
>>150635629This art is bad. When did the Dodsons get like this?
>>150635513Man, been a while since saw any of the Black Order pop up
>>150635633A bit of a random Jay and Silant Bob cameo
>>150635647So the Utopian Kree are still around, then it's just every writer bar Ewing forgot they existed
>>150635560Based and true.>>150635568>they still haven't fixed this>even for the big milestone issueHow embarassing.
>>150635670Venom's a himbo?
>>150635670I love how much of a bitch Madame Masque is
>>150635568>dodsonI see Marvel wants to keep this title drawn by artists known for fanservice.
>>150635596>they only picked me because of my sexy hair.>sure I could've just not had sexy hair but that's not just me.
>>150635618Yes. Milestone issues are more likely to be picked up by people that haven't been following. That's why they're usually oversized issues with stories that don't require the reader knowing exactly what's going on in the current run.
>>150635590I mean it's a little late to be slinging jokes at MCU Aunt May
>>150635766Laaaaaaaame
>>150635766MARVEL RIVALS SYNERGY GOES BRRRR
>>150635766Marvel really likes the Marvel Rivels synergy right now
>>150635774It's a bit odd to see Gomez do the art for the Nostalgia section of this book and not the main bit
>>150635766I hope this mean VenoMJ will take a more feminine appearance in the future.
>>150635590>>150635619>and then there's the matter of your missing kids!I've always said that if you took a step back and see the distances writers go to keep MJ away from Peter that it comes off as Mary Jane's life spiraling out of control.
And that's it. If you liked these, support your LCS or whatever.
>>150635665>You've got big brains, MJWhat a nice thing to say.
>>150635843An alright anniversary issue, but I don't think Marvel needed to bring back Knull, he's very one-dimensional as a villain. The bits with the Skrull Spy were more interesting than the MJ/Venom sections. You can feel Ewing just wants to write more Marvel Cosmic
>>150635785What other Rivals synergy have we got going at the moment? I vaguely remember there being something else
>>150635866>The bits with the Skrull Spy were more interesting than the MJ/Venom sections.I actually liked that bit too. Felt like classic Marvel stuff.
>>150635547New and refreshing Spider-Man. Hes not a cuck but a leader for a change.
>>150635872Malice maybe?
>>150635872MaliceTandy stopped cucking Ty and they're getting married
>>150635665Damn, that was actually pretty sassy.
>>150635590>>150635619"Isn't it weird how Mary Jane has no clear character direction and people keep sexualizing Aunt May?" is the most Hot Dog Costume thing to ever come out of the Spider-Office
>>150635579hey, venom's starting to conform to a more feminine form now, that's kinda neat, if intentional
>>150635532Well dwarf did somehow lose an off screen fight to Black panther
>>150635872One of the X-Men: Age of Revelation tie-ins is Cloak OR Dagger, where the two are fused together and shift between outward roles similar to how they function in-game
>>150635629Why do they look like that?
>>150635647Oh, right, R'gars. As in Steve. I get it. It ain't making me laugh but I get it.
>>150636002Pretty sure that's the point, anon.
>>150635908>>150635923That was it. Shamelessly changed her design for synergy too
>>150635700>every writer except the writer that created themimagine that
>>150635877He's literally such a no life he's fucking off on space
We need more comics where Earth heroes of the appropriate power level wail on the Black Order
>>150636364
>>150635547tourists gonna tell you this book is bad
I have cosmic fatigue.
>>150636493I think you just don't like Marvel Cosmic then, since this is basically the first time in four years we have really had any Space-related story coming out of Marvel
>>150635572Rocket does not care why Spider-Man is being weird.100% chance he knows and is just rolling with it.
>>150635686I swear i have seen them in like 4 different comics in the last month
>>150635573Dwarf sucks? The black order are jobbers? Universe proceeds correctly
>>150635665>>150635670>Brown eyesColorist, are you even trying? >>150635732Boo, that is a terrible joke.
>>150635486Ah, a new murderfu for my harem.
>>150636468The earth segment isThis space segment is not
>>150635464Really like the story in both of these.
>>150636468It is bad. It's also boring as shit. But BNDfags will always eat whatever slop is put on the table. It's in your nature to consume.
>>150635873Carolposter... was right?
>>150636468Cause it is. It's an inventory story that does nothing for peter as a character. But hit big thing lmao
>>150635547This is better than the Earth setting kek.
>>150635727ye
>>150637373Oh no, it does. See, Peter is playing Temu Batman going on about muh death because he had a vision about the 3 page long big bad killing his Robins (not actually his robins, but superiors).
>>150635486I hate how Peter is drawn here. He is drawn like a vaudeville comic relief character. Also he is extremely lanky.
>>150637482That is accurate to how he is written.
>>150635491>if your reproductive organs are still intactHonestly, what is this writing? What is the editor doing? Redacting this line would make things much punchier and give room to the art at the same time. Goodness me, the incompetence
Interview with the Venom editor>https://aiptcomics.com/2025/10/01/venom-unleashed-12-mj-knull/
>>150635547Okay, the last panel... amazing art. Maybe the only great thing in this issue
>>150637515Awful.
Knull continuing to be a thing is grossKnull is Klyntar tier
>>150635486>>150635491>murder hobo muscle girl space waifu
>>150637515It is weird. I don't actually feel enough to actually write questions, and what I do like isn't something that should be in Venom to begin with.
>>150635547I mean, you easily beat one of Thanos's group, Pete. Last time it took Ronan.
>>150637515Does this guy do anything but interviews, it's like every other week.
So, Peter IS getting space pussy right? Will be mad if he doesn't
>>150635629What is even the point of Dylan existing? Is there anyone invested in his storyline?
>>150637739no, Felicia isn't around
>>150637747He's the only actual Venom character in the book besides the symbiote, why care about MJ or Paul
>>150637515>Taylan asks, I have to say I am quite worried about these couple of ‘subtle’ teases that have been made with Flash and MJ. Surely there are no plans to make them a couple, right? Because that would be VERY weird and kind of a betrayal of Peter’s friendship.>Jordan D. White: So, this is another one of those classic “spoiler questions” asking about things that may or may not be going to happen in the future. So, I am not going to answer whether or not a thing is going to happen. But to speak to the betrayal aspect…I mean, is that not something that has happened a lot in Peter’s history? MJ was Harry’s girlfriend before she was Peter’s. And Harry married Liz, who was Flash’s ex. And for a while, Flash was dating Felicia, though that started off as her getting revenge on Peter before turning into something real. There is a real soap opera aspect to comics, and I don’t anticipate that going away any time soon. You should see the relationship charts for the X-Men.Yikes. Shit like this kills my enthusiasm. If you are someone who likes "Soap Opera" shit thats fine. For Pete and MJ it just hits differently.
>>150637753Black Cat isn't space pussy.
>>150637788Gomez already said there aren't any plans to hook her up with anyone I think its more about Flash wanting Venom back and the whole thing is a red herring because they know they can get a bit of drama there with fans framing it a certain way
>>150635486>more girlboss bsalways the same woke shit, zero originality or realism>>150635547>I must be better Spider-MANof course but women and black characters are perfect all the time and never need to improve. only white men are depicted as weak and pathetic
>>150635877he literally is a cuckevery character in the book is written as more mature them him.every joke in the comic is about him getting humiliated
>>150635923>Tandy stopped cucking Ty and they're getting marriedWhatever you say before you ass gets kicked out Mr. Brevoort.
>>150635781>>150635786>>150635793>>150635799>>150635808why are all modern comics so sexist towards white men?Eddie gets constantly sexually exploited and Peter is a weakling cuck but MJ is a perfect marysue with all her sex appeal censored
>>150637864idgi Tandy and Ty have been together for years in a weird relationship. Its just finally going official.
150637867eat a shotgun
>>150637864>>150637893I thought they were brother and sister
>>150637940only if you watch tiktoks claiming them as such
>>150637952TikTok is owned by a jew now Mr. Brevoort.
>>150635521Symbiotes see a Peter Parker a d immediately go "I want him inside me"
>>150635464this is the best spider-man issue i have read in the last 5 years
>>150635521what are the chances this symbie is Peter and MJ's baby daughter that Osborn killed and that everyone (every single reader in creation) forgot about?
>>150635547Can't wait for a permanent stat boost only to be retconned or ignored later
>>150638136null
>>1506381360Editorial ban on mentioning the baby
>>150637940Don't get invested in that ragebait shit. Read this instead which has a better chance for a permanent teamup in Marvel Rivals, like the one Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman has.
>>150637837Gotchya! But it just makes me want to disengage.
>>150638211I like that it looks like an airport romance novel cover
>>150635872>What other Rivals synergy have we got going at the moment?
>>150637940>Tyrone, a black man.>Tandy, a white woman.>Both orphans.>Brother and Sister.No. Stop being retarded.
>>150638206i understand the editorial doesn't want to talk about it, but whats the in universe explanation for the fact that no one ever talks about it?
>>150638480It doesn't exist. Quesada wrote OMIT and had Mary Jane outright say she would never have a kid with Peter as long as he was Spider-Man.
>>150635481> that’s a trigger for mecan’t there be a more natural way to write this? Kelly’s attempts to use modern lingo always comes off as ‘how do you do fellow kids’-tier
>>150638514Shut the fuck up you whiny pol brained bitch. Trigger is a normal word to use.
>>150637854Not even close to being true. He’s the one voice of reason in a room full of murder enthusiasts, trying to find a solution that doesn’t involve a body count while everyone else is sharpening something pointy. Its funny. Your skin’s on a first-name basis with the first gentle breeze if that counts as humiliation.
>>150638590>Trigger is a normal word to useLooks like someone escaped the Auschwitz Twitter.
>>150638454No biologically, but I thought they were basically raised together in the same household.
>>150635587NOOOO Gomez is gone! I honestly only read this book to goon after his MJ.
>>150638590I kinda like the double meaning in the phrase “that’s a trigger to me”. On one hand it’s “this is emotionally triggering,” and on the other it’s “that’s enough for me to pull the actual trigger.”
>>150638650Where's ao3?
>>150635809Watch her fuse with Phoenix too, like they had everyone do in the ga.e.
>>150638670No, they lived on the streets and halfway homes.
>>15063555714 variant coversVenom #250 Ario Anindito Foil VariantVenom #250 Blank VariantVenom #250 Carlos Gómez VariantVenom #250 Greg Capullo VariantVenom #250 JeeHyung Lee VariantVenom #250 Mark Bagley VariantVenom #250 Nick Bradshaw Muppets VariantVenom #250 Peach Momoko VariantVenom #250 2nd Printing 1:25 Greg Capullo Virgin VariantVenom #250 2nd Printing Carlos Gómez2nd Printing Carlos GómezVenom #250 1:25 Jerome Opeña VariantVenom #250 1:100 JeeHyung Lee Virgin VariantVenom #250 The Comic Mint / KRS Comics NYCC 2025 Peach Momoko Virgin Variant
>>150636468Hard disagree. This dialog is some of the most insufferable shit I have ever had the displeasure of reading. I have absolutely no belief that any of these characters are adults. That or they've all been hitting the aderall and cracked out of their minds and delivering one liners like it was going out of style.
>>150636932Wrong it's all bad as always.
>>150635464variant covers:The Amazing Spider-Man #13 Dave Bardin Muppets VariantThe Amazing Spider-Man #13 J. Gonzo White Tiger Team-Up VariantThe Amazing Spider-Man #13 Lee Bermejo Amazing Visions VariantThe Amazing Spider-Man #13 Pere Pérez VariantThe Amazing Spider-Man #13 1:25 Valerio Schiti VariantThe Amazing Spider-Man #13 1:100 Lee Bermejo Amazing Visions Virgin VariantThe Amazing Spider-Man #13 Alpha Exclusives Kendrick 'Kunkka' Lim VariantThe Amazing Spider-Man #13 Alpha Exclusives Kendrick 'Kunkka' Lim Virgin Variant
>>150638834Oh brother honestly how pathetic can you get.
>>150638514No, because the concept itself is tacky and performative.
>>150638860>>150638867Boring as fuck.
only posting these four, the rest aren't cool.
>>150638766piss off.
>>150638408this has not been synergized.
>>150635483And you are done bedtime pops
>>150638848Neither is bad. It's just not to your tastes.
>>150638860Why is spider-gwen here and where is ma's suit?
I miss Norman.
I'm ready for the next shitshow
>>150639055Go away far far away.
>>150638776Ah well thanks for the corrections.My knowledge of them was limited to 'light and dark powers + siblings', so I guess all I really know about them is 'light and dark powers'
>>150639009Spider-Man has been bad since OMD no wait correction it's been bad since Gwen died. Unironically she never should should been killed off since that's when things began to fall apart the OG clone saga is a perfect examle of this.
>>150639026>Why is spider-gwen here and where is ma's suit?It's just a variant cover you dumbass.
>>150639042I want him and Peter to interact. If you’re so obsessed, maybe stop brooding in Pete's pajamas and try locating the grown ass adult you’ve mentally adopted.
>>150639120Hi Tom
>>150639144I am not Tom
>>150639055Flash is too good for current character assassinated MJ
>>150639242Really do wish they would get rid of MJ I have honestly had enough of her.
>>150639272This, but non-Polish.
>>150639138This whole thing is supposed to show Peter’s love interests. If Black Cat gets a suit to make it all match, cool, but then Gwen gets one too and that just makes it weird. MJ should be in a Jackpot suit or even a Venom one if we’re doing the whole team look. If suits aren’t actually needed, then why is Spider-Gwen even here? She’s not a love interest. Having Gwen in a suit and MJ just standing there in regular clothes makes the whole thing feel off and kinda messy.
>>150639288>MJ should be in a Jackpot suitThat shit flopped so badly marvel immediately pretended it never happened and just made her venom right after
>>150639288His relationship with the all of them is fucked so these ‘3 great love interests’ covers just seem to be in bad taste at this point
>>150639414A better idea what to do with MJ enjoy this delightful special thread.>>150639392
>>150639459Marvel should just copy DC's retcon model. It's more realistic for long-term storytelling.
>>150639502Absolutely fucking not
>>150639478Norman’s looking great in this pic, so I'll just go ahead and pretend the woman in his arms is Emily.
>>150639518Your outdated model is making it so much harder to get rid of bad stories, old man.
>>150639540They’d just tack on more bad stories
>>150639528And I will just pretend this is canon untill editoral does decide to make it canon. Which shouldn't be too long I mean let's face it first she left peter for paul now she is bond to alien symbiote. what's left to do with her character? besides better she be a whore with Norman then anyone else especially since he is man enough for her.
>>150635547I didn’t hate this.
>>150639557They'd do the same thing they're doing already. "Outrage sells" mindset, remember?
>>150639846The reviews did however one said he found this to be boring I tend to agree with him.
>>150639528Emily sure is pretty in her wedding dress. Colorist could have done better on his eyes tho.
>>150639896I don’t mind. My own opinion is good enough for me.
>>150639896Reviewers share their own opinions. They don’t speak on behalf of everyone else.
>>150639846Me neither.Seeing Pete being a leader and respected is always fine.
>>150639960This one DID anon,
>>150640097Your reviewer is committing the false consensus fallacy, then.
>>150640251I happen to respect that man unlike you goodbye now.
Ooooh. I was talking to Gwenshizo.
>>150635486Oh joy, another forgettable pointless love interest. I’m sure this one will totally stick.
>>150640620What are you talking about
>>150640520You are getting sleepy you can't keep you eyes open any longer Goodnight anon.
>>150640655Clearly Peter is going to date the psychopathic alien woman who waxes romantic about eternally torturing her enemies.
>>150635557>Half the main story of the quarter-millenium issue is about some rando Kree and SkrullsWas this genuinely supposed to be a Carol book before Lowe/White mandated MJ and Ewing is just being passive aggressive? What the fuck is going on?
>>150635613>the Venom symbiote is a renowned hero, credit to his species, and protected his son>Peter Parker can’t hold down a job, everyone hates him, Norman aborted one of his daughters and he sold the soul of the other to Satan
>>150640770Just seems to be the writer picking up plot points from his earlier stories about a different hero. Pretty much is a default mode for writing.
>>150635590>>150635623>openly mocking the marywh0reFags always eating shit LMAO cheeky Marvel
>>150640770Venom’s first host was a Kree who infiltrated the Skrulls and Flash Thompson met a Skull lady with a symbiote before the whole Agent of Cosmos thing was dropped
>>150635547Decent story
>>150638499OMIT itself was such a hot turd that it was declared an AU. It was supposed to lead in to an all new timeline and instead Marvel decided “ackshully it all happened they just never officially married”
>>150637788Flash has no dick to fuck Maryjane, right? So it would be strictly platonic.
>>150639242they can make each other better
>>150640719Better than the eternal MJ status quo bs.
>>150641290OMIT is canon. And yes their stance has always been "everything happened except the marriage and the baby." Quesada never wavered on that, and no one since him has either.
>>150641117>Paul is still struggling to move out of his own place and leaking her info to Madam Masque to punish her.>He’s still trying to molest DylanPolish people are pedophiles!
>>150641327Not that I don’t believe you, but who was the baby mentioned in gold goblin?
>>150641117>The schizo can't read worth shit.Back to school, with you. But not Elementary, we know how you act around children.
>>150635623>Muhfuggin Marywhores>Norman, dear, who is this strange homeless man?>Oh, don't mind him Gwen. That's just Paul Rabin.>Maryslutfags>What's wrong with this poor man?>Hm? Oh, some breakup he never got over. He's just been living like some sort of homeless schizophrenic.>That's so sad...>Don't pity him too much, my dear. He's from Poland, and he even tried to molest Eddie Brock's son. Now come on, it's almost time for Peter and Mary Jane's anniversary.>WHORES! WHORES! WHOOOORES!>Yes, I do think we better get going. What an awful creature.
>>150641293Shippers get really weird when they start making up non-canon headcanons like questioning whether the amputee can have sex. And no, this kind of gross shit nonsense isn’t limited to PeterMJ and happens across the board. I'm just tired of shipfags in general.
>>150641534>Intentionally rage baits people.>Spazzes out when people react and he gets what is coming to him.I don't know who is more retarded, Gwenschizo or Editorial.
>>150641578coming up OMD I am looking for the files now.
>>150635587Nooooo Terry dodson, give me Gomez back!!
>Goes from detailed art to this kek
>>150640770It should be clear to everyone by now that Ewing hates Venom
>>150641578are you off your rocker everybody but you apparently knew that was not meant to be taken seriously you ruined that thread for zero reason and now you will you reap what you sow.
>>150641604First Host was all about Venom’s past with the Kree and Skrulls, blame marvel for letting that get published
>>150641677It's not just this issue it's his entire run
>>150641578People like you prove more and more why spider-man threads should not exist thanks for destroying a thread for zero reason. But don't you worry I will fix you real soon. You will get what's coming to you,
>>150635486she looks like a faggot twink
>>150641343Just an easter egg for the old fans which is why that was never mentioned again.
>>150635464Larraz's art as usual is wasted on this
>>150635547>Look guys! Peter is getting an upgrade!And it won’t mean anything because the next run will forget it.Remember when Peter Parker was learning martial arts to get stronger and every future writer ignored it and went back to Peter being a shitty fighter?
>>150639896brainlet
>>150642501Oh man I'm starting to think comics are badly written
>>150641721what do you get out of this?ywnbaj
>>150642501I don’t even think Slott remembered he wrote spider-fu
>>150642501He's been fighting since he was a teenager. Being shitty is nonsense.
>>150642501It was a silly idea worth ignoring. I doubt he means stronger in the physical sense.
>>150642501I would like Slott stories over and forgotten ASAP, yes. Same with Peter having a fit over a vision of poochies dying and not Aunt May actually dying.
>>150635486That's a transsexual
>>150641602>Everyone is so over Paul, they're not even bothering to put in effort in the panels he's inWho's the dumbass who created this character in the first place?
>>150635590>no matter what we do the marycuntfags will consoom itall but confirmed, Flash is next.
>>150642991>>150642207I swear. If an artist makes the mistake of giving a Girl short hair anons will go shizo.
>>150635596Stupid skrulls are making me miss the goblin.
>>150635495>>150635491>>150635486When approached for a comment, the artists at Marvel had this to say:>HEY, GUYS, DO YOU LIKE KARLACH?! I REALLY LIKE KARLACH! I'M JUST GONNA DRAW KARLACH AND SLAP SOME OF LAE'ZEL'S FACIAL FEATURES ON HIM I MEAN HER. MAN, I WISH A GIANT WOMAN WITH NO FEMALE SEX CHARACTERS WOULD FUCK ME UP MY TWINKY GAY ASSHOLE. I LOVE DRAWING FOR MARVEL!
>>150639055If White's not just baiting, yes, there's an element of soap opera to comics, but he needs to read the room. Readers are going to riot just as much about her immediately running to Flash after dumping Paul. We need to heal from the "Peter is getting cucked" arc of the past four years. Like, just let her be single for a while if that's our only option.
Why do Polish Spider-Man fans hate MJ so much? Is it a genetic flaw, or a cultural one?
>>150644036I'm not sure if the soap opera element of comic books has ever worked that well. It just seems to make characters unreasonably mad at each other even when they should be friends.
>>150644229Polish people have an inherent respect towards child molesters like Paul, and hate seeing him get disrespected in this comic. They blame MJ for him being treated like a joke and need to see her punished.
>>150644316It turns out that a badly written soap opera is still badly written and thus lacks appeal.
>>150643913I didn't play that gay shit for homos but now that you mention it, isn't that exactly the same face and hair as that gay vampire(?) that keeps getting posted?
>>150641327Actually that isn't true. Originally Marvel flat out REFUSED to address what was cabin and not canon from 1987-2007 so they could pick and chose what didn't happen like saying the Clone Saga. But when a clone saga nostalgia story that explicitly name checked Ben Reilly turned out to outsell any BND story to that point, they officially had to say everything but the wedding happened and Peter/MJ were shacking up
>>150644787Pretty much. What was meant to be Quesada's crowning glory was unceremoniously tossed out and shuffled away as something pathetic and shameful.
>>150644787>But when a clone saga nostalgia story that explicitly name checked Ben Reilly turned out to outsell any BND story to that pointThe Raptor story? Because that was total shit
>>150644933The thing was, OMIT was dogshit enough that it was very easy to outshine. That's what happens when you pander to a single Polish child molester.
>>150635809>>150637515I swear to fuck if this VenoMJ shit continues any longer with her not as She-VenoMJ...Total derangement and lack of soul...corporatism that strips any sort of fun or authenticity outta anything. That 252 design? Utter fucking dogshit that I'd go 100% Mort Weisenger on any hapless artist I'd seriously pitch that shit to me.
>>150644956Marvel needs to fire all its Polish employees, starting with Cebulski.
>>150635590USM MJ always sells more than ASM MJ. What's this supposed to poke fun of?
>>150644980Must be pretty drafty between those ears....
>>150644980Themselves. Ewing is making fun of the fact that MJ's character arc made no sense under Slott and Wells's cancerous tenures.Note how Ewing entirely skips over mentioning anything that happened to her during Spencer's run, because she was treated like an actual character for it instead of a prop for the bitter revenge fantasies of manchild writers.
>>150635590>>150635619We know her whore ass will do OF with Venom as soon as Paul/Dylan move out
>>150635504>>150635508tung tung tung sahur
>>150645055>Polish people don't read comicsShe's not interested, that's already been very clear. Venom's just her life support machine at best thanks to Paul's gay little invention murdering her.
>>150645055That's what she needs. An arc where she does wellness/fitness influencer bullshit with Felicia
>>150644787You're reading way too much in it. They were just focused on telling new stories instead of digging up the past.
>>150645055Paul is definitely going to try to rape Dylan as soon as he gets custody of him. Going to teach that poor kid what RESPECT means.
>>150645201then why the fuck have they just been repeating the same fucking three stories over and over and over and over and over and over again>UH HUHURR LET'S REHASH SUPERIOR AGAIN, WHICH IS A REHASH OF KRAVEN'S LAST HUNT, BUT THIS TIME WITH *ANOTHER* VILLAIN
When will Marvel stop raping my childhood hero?
>>150645206Paul is delaying moving out until he gets his opportunity to get rid of VenoMJ via his ally Madam Masque, to get the chance to rape Dylan!
>>150645257New York Comic Con is coming up when the last few have never failed to be a disaster for them, Nick Lowe has been radio silent on twitter, Tom Brevoort shut down his Substack blog, and suddenly the assistant editors are answering letters instead of Nick.I think someone higher up is getting real tired of all the faggotry in the Spider-Office and the nonstop drama. We even had an angry Marvel intern tell us that this shit was all /co/'s fault a couple of weeks or so ago.
>>150637840>of course but women and black characters are perfect all the time and never need to improve. only white men are depicted as weak and patheticIn the last chapter, a black guy and two girls were jobbing to a white guy. You sure we're reading the same run?
>>150645306Norman Osborn is a supervillain. Marvel also loves it when evil triumphs over good.
>>150645304What pains me is that we can't undo like what, the last 20 years?I didn't even hate BND. It wasn't too damaging but man, it's been such a mess for so long.
>>150645304>We even had an angry Marvel intern tell us that this shit was all /co/'s fault a couple of weeks or so ago.Where/when was this? Interested. I know it's haram to talk about visiting Reddit, but they're just as vocal and mad.
>>150645400He's been in more than one thread, including one more than a year ago, but here's his lengthiest and most recent sperg-out
>>150645476>>150645400sorry, forgot link derp derphttps://desuarchive.org/co/thread/150336981/#150363488
>>150635577
>>150645382If I was going to undo a bunch of shit I would go back to using Strange. One because the mainstream fans would recognize it from the movies and two because One World Under Doom allows for a transfer of power back to someone besides Doom being Sorcerer Supreme. That should be Strange, or at least someone connected to Strange. Point is magic got us in this mess with OMD, magic needs to get us out. I'd have Peter straight up show all the horrible shit he'd gone after the deal with Mephisto, and basically state that every since he has been cursed, literally, with unhappiness. Considering he took over some of the duties to protect Earth from Cyottrak that the Sorcerer Supreme. should do, and died untold deaths, he is owed. He asks that EVERYTHING from OMD forward be absolutely undone. Not filled in with anything either. Just wiped. Now you can either have the magic take that entire time and turn it into a seperate pocket universe for faggots to go and play with OUTSIDE of normal continuity if they want, or make it a blank. This will leave Parker's past with a "skip" like when you erase something on a tape. There's a plot device if someone wants to use it. As for Peter everything resets for him back to that point.
>>150645552I'd be down. Would get me reading again. Illegally, of course. I ain't ever paying for comics again after the Comixology debacle.
>>150645476>>150645489Thanks. I'm pretty active in these threads and didn't realize there was an intern connection instead of just another random schizo. It's not as much of a blame game as I thought, but yeah. They're dumb.
>>150635596It is unreal how much I love Norman. I do wish he were wearing the gold goblin suit, but having him around is fun.
>>150645697Pic unrelated.
>>150645552I’d rather they properly talk out their issues and everything that’s happened over slapping yet another retcon to pave over more retcons. Make them own how much they fucked up Get Spencer and Ewing on it and do it up like a modern Parallel Lives. Give all the relationship shit a rest for a bit and let them slowly come together Felicia becomes their emotional support wife
>>150645219Because Lowe is a burn-out. Brevoort and Wacker at least had a vision.
>>150645174And her being a dumbass who was extremely fricking reckless with it.
>>150635766Honestly, this is the best outcome. Knull's creation did come with a problem since he could never be killed thanks to the rules about how gods work in Marvel. He would have just kept reviving again and again to cause even level damage. He either needed to be nerfed HARD on a revival, or become mostly content with the status quo.
>>150645769What is the order of operations between Storm and Venom anyway with Knull?
>>150645725Slott's run has to be eliminated. The talking it out stuff can happen, and it can involve them both going to Strange and asking for it to be done. MJ had to give up their marriage to save Aunt May. Strange states that she has to willingly give up something again to make the spell work (Peter gave up his life so he's covered). MJ has to give up everything in this life to get back to that point. The spell should mimic wedding vows 'MJ. Do you swear to love this man, through sickness and in death, in happiness and in pain, forever and forever, on this plane and every other, as long as as everything exists?" And as he says it we see panels of ALL the shit they've been through in the past 20-30 years. Everything. The dying. The crying. The happiness. The villians. The breakups. She says I do. Boom. Reset. Talked out. Wedding. All in one.
>>150645738MJ's job was to put on the gay little device and take all the risk of being a superhero.Paul's job was to sit at home on his gay little PC and make sure she didn't roll 3 Skulls. Paul should've run a diagnostic on the thing the moment she came back home after Venom War. He already knew how dangerous the device being tampered with was, but for some reason he dropped the ball and didn't bother running a check until after the fatal malfunction happened. Despite already calling out Peter on letting the Symbiote turn off the safeties in the first place.Because Paul is either retarded... or was trying to murder her on purpose while passing it off as an unfortunate accident.He had one job, and he couldn't manage even that.
>>150645323This feels like moving the goalposts.
>>150645829Paul is awfully unconcerned with the woman he supposedly loves getting tortured to death and left on life support.Given that Madam Masque seems to know everything about MJ and how coy Masque is about RESOURCES... Paul is a fucking rat and has been so since Gang War.
>>150645838The only thing they love aside from jerking off minorities is to have a Spider-Person get flattened.Peter probably would've been utterly slaughtered.
>>150645792>KnullAdd that shit to the retcon list.
>>150645304>The Assistant Editors are now answering letters instead of Lowe.Intriguing.
>>150635513>Get me out of these pants and I'll do anything you want
>>150645829>argues Paul is to blame >posts evidence Peter had full access to the device and helped MJ kill herself >also shows Paul explicitly warned these suicidal maniacs not to mess with itAt best, you could call the guy careless. But let’s be real: the reckless speed junkie still floored her car off the cliff, sir.
>>150645306norman is goal bodygoal haircut
>>150646221Recently read a comic strip with Miles mocking the hairstyle. Talk shit get hit.
>>150646142That’s a whole lot of weapon swinging around for someone who thinks in formulas and not fists.
>>150635665>Oh yeah? Well your father is a fanboy of my works!
>>150642501>Peter being a shitty fighter?>Fighting Avengers-tier villains solo since teen-years with agility and spider-sense>Shitty fighterWhoever thinks this should never write Spider-man.
>>150646221I was never a fan norman coming back to life. but if your going to bring him back he needs to consistantly tea bag faggots like cap, iron man and generally all the avengers sans hulk and thor.
>>150645829It's honestly my opinion that Paul got jealous of things with Peter and MJ and started to roll it randomly to either punish her or maybe outright kill her. A kind of "if I can't have her, neither can you" thing. I don't know if it'll ever be addressed, but maybe. At this point I assume MJ is going to get with Flash and we're just going to continue the concept that Peter and MJ can't get together because she's with someone else.
>>150645653There's no intern. Just the regular guy flipping the fuck out about his imaginary friend the "polish pedophile" and shitting up every thread samefagging with his alt. If you try and use any common sense in these fucking things you get accused of being Slott, or Lowe, or interns.
>>150646174Peter didn't have access to the device. Paul was bitching at Peter despite the Symbiote being the one to do this, because Paul is a petty faggot.Also, despite knowing that they messed with it, he still let MJ go off on patrol instead of, god forbid, running a diagnostic or even just building a new device.He handed the speed junkie the keys to her sports car without ever thinking that 'hey, the breaks were cut, I should check on them.' So, was he lying to Peter about how dangerous things were? Or was he lying to MJ about how safe it was? Because he was definitely lying at least once, simply because both those things can't be true!
>>150646745No, this was a third and completely different guy. And unfortunately, you're the fourth retard in all of this with your conspiracy that now three to four different people are samefagging as part of a hypercomplex internal monologue for the sake of 4D chess.
This thread is awful, and so have most of the previous Venom threads. I wish I was never baited with Whitney to read this story. Well, at least I'm not paying for it.
>>150646798I remember that guy. He was a regular Slott Jr.
>>150635547You know what?? I'm actually liking this. Spidey in space is a very random idea, but it's something genuinely new and fresh. The writing's not atrocious, I don't think this will be a hall of fame run or anything but it's shaping up to be a solid middle-of-the-road run.
>>150646897>Spidey in space is new and fresh.No, it really isn't. He's been to space before. This isn't something new and groundbreaking, it's the same slop Marvel has been pushing out for the last 20 years.
>>150646897It's all being dragged down by the Earth shit which is just another attempt at Superior 2, this time with a Norman Osborn Boogaloo
>>150646798These threads are all retards all the time, and a lot of it is the same retard. This guy makes almost every thread, spergs out about Paul and the "polish pedophile" constantly, and the guy *always* shows up right when he wants to score cheap points or use a straw man. The "Polack" is always perfectly inept just to keep the guy who cannot stop saying schizo going, to bump the threads when there's nothing else going on. The schizo schizo even said if he stopped posting, he wouldn't actually stop he'd just keep posting with a different style.There's no interns here. Just one guy trying really hard to make fetch happen.
>>150635618It's a new #1. That's why.
>>150646962They have a credits page that would be ideal for putting that information.
>>150635629>paul shows up and the art gets worselol
>>150646957I don't know what to say except that even if you're hellbent on the thought that the first two guys are the same person, the third guy is someone with a completely different style and has nothing to do with the first two beyond 'being pretty obnoxious.'Which, again, also seems to be your thing. Are *you* the schizo, the schizo schizo, and now also the schizo schizo schizo?
>>150635701>Louboutin>no red solesbaka
>>150647111She's trying her best to come off as aloof. Don't try and poke holes in her social masque.
>>150646957The Polish pedo/Gwenschizo seems like a real obsessed person, there's someone obsessed with Paul rape, there's whatever else with some anons. >>150647061I don't know if there's a "Marvel Intern" either, but I think this is a problem we have with everything being anon. I think both anons I'm replying to are different people, but we'll never really know. Especially with the IP counter gone.
>>150636817what joke??
>>150647061Yes, fine, you got me. I was pretending to be all three people, and posting Malkovitch, Malkovitch, Malkovitch incessantly was also my thing. I am the "polish pedophile," the "schizo schizo," the "Marvel Intern," and also "John Malkovitch." It's because I'm mentally ill and have a small penis, but I'm not apologizing for it. I'm actually proud of it.
>>150647158Funeral Pyre and The Madness are both Venom minis. Don't remember what and the one Ann Noccenti wrote where Venom got a lot of heads respectively.
>>150635781oh look, he's naked again
>>150637867>modern comicsI take it you're new here.
>>150646949Oy, keep my boy’s name out of your mouth. Norman’s arc isn’t a tired Superior 2 rerun. It’s Kraven’s Last Hunt as a failed redemption arc. The main villain is out there trying to fix what he broke while the world justifiably drags him through the mud, he ordered and I'm glad to see them finally do something fun with him since Red Goblin ended.
>>150647170Okay but you really ought to fuck off now that you've given the game away.
>>150647241The acts of the most innocent of us all.
>>150647061I'm the third guy, pal. Now that we've established that you can't tell when people are the same, think about it for a just a second. Why is an Eastern European from one of the most famously mocked and derided ethnicities apparently obsessed with coming to threads about a character dead since the Nixon administration to bumble and get dunked on in his second language exactly when this extremely obvious and constant samefagger wants to bump or score easy points? Which makes more sense, that or a guy that samefags constantly and tells you he can and would post in different styles made up his "polish pedophile" victim to straw man people that disagree with him?
>>150647253Superior was also a bad attempt to rehash Kraven's Last Hunt. The only distinction was they just dragged Superior out long after everyone reading stopped giving a fuck.
>>150647267So, you're the Marvel Intern guy? Then who is the guy in >>150647170Maybe trying to intuit who is who on an anonymous forum is pure faggotry. You seem like a faggot.
>>150647170>>150647254Speaking of legendary character actor and Ripley's game star
>>150635464>MJ is symbiote bounded>She's Eddie Brock's sons foster mother>She's still not with Peter despite all these other fucking ridiculous connections to his worldThis is why I don't read Spidey.
>>150647302That is probably the healthiest was to go. Spider-Man runs on sunk costs.
>>150647302And to think: it was even MORE retarded than this when she was with Paul. This is actually an improvement!
So what happened with Eddie in Carnage? I don't remember anything from the last few months.
>>150647291Better that than a person who either does >>150647170Or buys it wholesale.
>>150647343I don't know what to tell you. Well, I do, because you're also me. I'm actually quoting myself here as part of the same annoying gambit. I made this post that I'm replying to, too. I'm playing with everyone's minds here.
>>150647314>>150647317How the fuck is Paul?Also MJ went from being absolutely traumatized by Brock and the symbiote, to the point Peter had to hide the idea of wearing a normal black costume around her, to being ok with being bonded to the same fucking thing and fostering the "kid" it created. It's just worthless. Nothing has repercussions.
>>150647276I clocked the reference. But the idea that a villain trying and failing to claw his way back to some scraps of humanity is somehow echoing Superior instead of the iconic original is a misread.
>>150647394I'll admit that it's at least a better rehash than Superior? But it's not anywhere as good as Last Hunt.>>150647390Marvel is run by retards.>>150647368Please stop replying to yourself, it's not cute.
>>150646935Name the "Spider-Man in space" arcs.
>>150647390That was decades ago. Their alleged target audience first started with Dan Slott Spider-Man so they know Venom as the cool guy with guns.
>>150647493>That was decades agoI wish they had this attitude with BND.
>>150641604He would very obviously rather be writing Spider-Man or one of the Captains Marvel
>>150647512That would require getting rid of people who have been sitting there for a long time or an act from higher up. And they would probably try to ignore the later as much as possible anyway.
>>150647525I'd say let him write Spider-Man, except he might hurt Lowe's delicate ego and we can't have that apparently.
>>150647276>>150647394It's nothing like either? Kraven's last hunt, costume notwithstanding, is about Kraven proving a single thing to himself. Even in costume, he is simply the hunter - he is trying to prove his own ability and redeem himself *as a hunter* and as the superior at the task he and Spidey share, as he understands it.Otto is trying to prove Peter's *inferiority* as much or more as his own superiority. Otto's mania has always assumed his own superiority. Otto only rarely engaged with the idea of redemption, and mostly powered through being Spider-Man with the same hubris which drove him as Otto, and when it was at its best it showed him as a man whose reach would always exceed his grasp.Norman has received a completely arbitrary and unearned change of perspective from an outside force. It's more like Axis than Kraven's, or perhaps Spencer's unfinished Bedlam. There's no reason he should be a good guy, but he is suddenly gifted a clear mind and he has the ability. And he doesn't have the moral compass for the work but he understands that the person he hated for so long actually does so he's doing the best thing he can figure out how to do- keep Peter's good work going. And he's struggling, because actually being Pete was much harder than being Norman. And because he's at least trying to do it the right way, the failing takes a completely different role in the story- it doesn't show us that Otto is still a lunatic with delusions of adequacy, it shows us that being Spider-Man is actually a tremendous sacrifice in a way that another "being late for a date/dinner with Aunt May" doesn't hit with.It could all turn to shit, but Norman-Man has real potential if the reader isn't just permanently pissed off about 2008.
>>150647543The fact that all this stuff in >>150645304 is happening all at once means that even if Brevoort and Lowe are oblivious retards, someone finally woke up at the wheel and saw how they're looking to the suckers still buying these books.
>>150641604>Ewing hates VenomRightfully so. Donny Cates raped that part of the Spiderman mythos almost as much as Slott did Parker.
>>150647241Seriously. I could keep going.
>>150647573She has a nipple?
>>150635547Peter in space might be the fresh idea needed for ASM
>>150647555Just here to add my support to the idea that Superior is nothing like Kraven's Last Hunt like this anon says.KLH is about Kraven's mental issues finally catching up to him, and Kraven unironically continuing the cycle of abuse that has driven him to suicide by doing it to Spiderman the person he wishes he was. Thats deep crazy shit.Superior is Slott self inserting and identifying as the fat, ugly Octavius that is a "genius" no one gave a chance angry at guys like Parker, who people call a nerd, but is everything Otto and Slott, want to be. Popular. Good looking. Smart. Hot women. Powers. Slott turned the idea of Parker being the little guy who gets bullied, into Otto/Slott being the little guy who gets bullied by dudes like Parker and then goes Columbine. It's also crazy mental shit but more self serving and less interesting because it's just pages of Slott's angst.
>>150647622>Peter in space might be the fresh idea needed for ASM>fresh ideaFresh? Nigga where have you been?
>>150647434Absolutely! No shade intended but Joe Kelly is doing his thing but J.M. DeMatteis he is not. As for those Superior accusations? I was playfully offended because how dare fans confuse Norman’s utterly misguided attempts at trying to do right by someone he’s hurt beyond repair with Otto’s ego-fueled body-snatching cosplay?
>>150647302Go read ultimate then. Oh wait, people are starting to turn on that book as well.
>>150647637I'm not reading any of those recent secret war knockoffs that don't amount to anything. That's what I mean, nigga.
>>150647573Oh my gosh how did that chick's nips get past filter? Nowadays even men's nipples might get censored! Somebody think of the children who might pick this up from Marvel Unlimited?
>>150647555>>150647623I remember reading the story was originally pitched about Wonder Man and Grim Reaper. Wonder how that would have gone.
>>150646935When? Name these arcs?
>>150647742I feel like it wouldn't have gotten as much attention.
>>150647712>Go read ultimate then. Oh wait, people are starting to turn on that book as well.>Go punish yourself on another title
>>150647744>When?How old are you? Where do you think the Symbiote came from?
>>150647775Well that part is obvious. Spider-Man is the company mascot while Wonder Man ... isn't.
>>150635653>>150635641It was around this point I figured: they're going to set up the skrull boy as MJ's replacement love interest to sub in for Paul, aren't they???
>>150647834He's dead.
>>150647834No, unlikely. They're teasing Flash as her new love interest.
>>150647818Lol sorry, but it's the main point. I think they heard the pitch and thought why it was being wasted on Wonder Man. He's a deep cut character. I bet you that the story was pitched using Wonder Man because he didn't think it would be green lit for a guy like Spiderman.
>>150635629Fuck Paul, but more importantly Marvel needs to get rid of Nick Lowe and Tom Brevoort immediately. It took way too long for that asshole to be shitcanned, and Brevoort thought he was cute using Paul to ragebait fans. It's bad enough that manga was thrashing them. Now Absolute Batman and manwha are fucking spitroasting 616 Mavel. Gwt rid of them, now. New Spider-Man and Venom, but /co/ doesn't care. Meanwhile, Absolute Evil hit the bump limit. And even outside of /co/, everyone only talks about Absolute Batman and manga. Marvel does not need spiteful creatures like Nick Lowe and Tom Brevoort.
>>150647845Spider-Man is the kind of emotional trauma guy who would be affected by being buried alive. Wonder Man is just returning to the grave.
>>150647845>Let's bury the hero alive!>JMD: Far too ghoulish for a friendly neighborhood hero, I think.Editors: You had us at torturing the hero for sport.
>>150647742Which story? That must have been a very preliminary pitch for any of them
>>150647881Yeah. The only thing actually confirmed was the buried aspect. You have a Batman villain that dressed up as Batman before used in an in-between pitch and randoming into finding out that Kraven was Russian and therefore the writer's interests.
>>150647918Russophilia strikes again.
>>150647867>Spider-Man is the kind of emotional trauma guy who would be affected by being buried alive.>>150647874>Editors: You had us at torturing the hero for sport.LOL. Yea burying Peter is a tradition. I think writer's that have been assigned to him either outright hate the character or misunderstand that getting knocked down only is heroic if you let the guy get up and win. At least win the girl. If these guys had written Rocky, he would have gotten knocked in ring, woken up to find out Mc had died from a heart attack from watching the fight, and Adrian was fucking Apollo. On a side note, if Marvel ever wanted its own "Joker" style serious award hero movie, it would be based on KLM.
>>150647843Flash hasn't shown up since stuff with SCAR wrapped up.
>>150647622Even then, it isn't going to last, and Earth shit will always drag the book down because it's covered in Lowe's shit and cum covered status quo.
>>150647952That was one issue ago...
>>150635533Is this the first time in almost five years that peter actually defeats someone ? Crazy and cool
>>150647960You'd think if they were setting them up together they'd be shoving him down our throats.Instead, Paul gets more screentime. I just don't think it's happening, but if they are, they should go ahead. I think it'd be funny if Marvel shotgunned itself right in the face so soon after it stopped shotgunning itself right in the face.
>>150647939I think it varies. There's been a misunderstanding at Marvel about what counts as a win, but they've also hired writers who were not in the right headspace to be writing anything. They were clearly too damn depressed or dealing with their own heavy shit to be cranking out fanfic for AO3, let alone some official hero story. To be fair Peter does seem to be winning a bit more now, so hey, that’s something.
>>150647998If they really wanted MJ and Flash together they wouldn't wait. Literally Paul and the kids came out of nowhere, issue one. It was like a fucking jump scare. Similarly, Peter and Shay also came about abruptly, out of nowhere, and with no buildup. Same with all his random flings with Black Cat. Marvel doesn't really understand 'development' as a concept anymore. They'd just be having the two of them fucking while standing there proudly like your dog that pissed the carpet yet again.
>>150648033It's because the complaints are finally getting to them. They think that if they give us a few crumbs they can shut us up, and then go right back to faggotry when we stop paying attention. Don't let up on them. The only way to keep a retard in line is to constantly ride them, berate them, badger them, belittle them, and humiliate them.
>>150635464I know Marvel wants to get younger readers etc, and this is the reason they push Miles Morales into so many things. But imagine being a mainstream fan and watching something like the Spiderverse movies. You go "Hey Spidey! Oh there's a little mulatto boy who's Spidey too. Ok cool, cool. Hey! And there is Peter teaching him! Alright! And he's with MJ! Ok nice. Aw man. Look at Peter all grown up and being a role model and shit." You watch that movie and go "Fuck it. Let me go get the comic and see how my nigga Peter doing." You get the comic and you find out>Peter isn't with MJ>MJ has cucked Peter 43572 times>MJ had kids with another nigga and then the kids disappeared>Peter got killed and legit beat by Doc Ock>The Venom alien symbiote has a kid. He don't.>MJ would rather foster that half symbiote baby than have a kid with Peter>He still has no real job>MJ sold their marriage to keep 98 yr old Aunt May alive One More Day>Peter died saving the Earth from magical forces numerous times but no one noticed or gives a fuck because his clone and his worst enemy are covering for him AT THE SAME DAMN TIME>MJ is bonded to Venom and she thinks it's the bee's fucking kneesAnd on and on. Marvel wonders why no one picks up the book. Refuses to do the thing they bait people n with in EVERY piece of media outside the comic.
>>150648102This is what happens when you intentionally make a comic that appeals only to a single deranged polack kid toucher.
>>150647952Like >>150647960 said, one issue ago.>>150647998>You'd think if they were setting them up together they'd be shoving him down our throats.It's been one issue. They kinda have been.>>150648047They're literally not waiting. It's a monthly book. Shay and Peter took a couple of months to become a thing. I'm assuming you just don't know how to read. Shay was introduced by Aunt Anna in Ravencroft. It took like 3 months of books for them to actually be dating.The comprehension levels on this board are baffling sometimes.
>>150648137It was blatantly obvious they were setting up Peter and Shay from the first issue. It was blatantly obvious they were setting up Peter and Michele in Zeb's run, before he backpedaled on that in a really awkward way. Whereas, again, Flash seems to have much more tension going on with Venom than MJ.
I really hope it doesn't happen in general. Should be focused on fixing MJ's shit instead of just bouncing into another relationship.
>>150648137>They're literally not waiting. It's a monthly book. Shay and Peter took a couple of months to become a thing. I'm assuming you just don't know how to read. Shay was introduced by Aunt Anna in Ravencroft. It took like 3 months of books for them to actually be dating.Man fuck that noise. Don't no one want to see Peter Parker with some random nurse bitch named Shay. No one picks up a Spiderman game/movie/cartoon/action figure or drink cup and says "Oh let me get the Spiderman and Shay one". No one knows who the fuck Shay is and no one wants to know. Niggas want Peter Parker fucking the red headed "You hit the jackpot tiger" bitch, not some scrub in scrubs. If you can't or won't give him have MJ's pussy, then at least, AT LEAST, let the man hook up and marry Black Cat and have a proper family. Let the man be a man and settle down. I dont mean he retires or some shit. I mean he gets a piece. He gets 40 acres and a mule. I mean damn even Jubliee had a fucking kid. You're telling motherfucking Ironman got to fuck MJ too? That's ok but Parker can't get Black Cat as a consolation prize? Damn.
>>150648180A lot of Ewing's commentary in this issue is that they've just been bouncing MJ around from thing to thing like a retard, and even mocking it because again, it's garbage writing. I don't think he's going to bounce her to a completely new relationship like he's an infant excited by a new set of keys to jingle. Gomez said that it's not really happening.
>>150648204Tony never fucked her. Because she is Peter's age, he thought of her as too young and he had a different throwaway love interest in Bendis Iron Man.
>>150648066Drag what flops, but also give credit where it’s due. Without that balance, even valid critique starts to sound like the same old white noise.
>>150648234Bendis just wanted her in because the ASM people were being retarded and not giving her a thing to do. And the Polish schizo misunderstood because he doesn't read comics.
>>150648239They gave me a few crumbs, and I'll give them a little credit. But it's Peter/MJ or bust, mang. Put 'em back together and keep them there or I'll just assume they're just waiting for us to let our guard down and then fuck us yet again.
>>150647744>Secret Wars>Infinty Gauntlet>An Avengers arc in the early 90's where Nebula was the main villain.There's also been a live action movie where he died in space as well. Spider-Man in space isn't a new idea, there is nothing fresh about it.
>>150648286Nebula was hot when she had hair. Why did they make her bald?
>>150635486>>150635495I can fix her.
>>150648324MOVIESYNERGY
>>150648330I just like how Shay is utterly forgotten.
>>150648324I want to think she was bald early on and then was turned into a husk by Thanos up until Infinity Gauntlet, where she was able to get rid of the cybernetic parts and grow back her hair...but then the MCU came along and reverted her back.
>>150648338That was long before the movie.
>>150648172>Whereas, again, Flash seems to have much more tension going on with Venom than MJ.I don't think your comprehension of the situation is that clear, but not trying to be an asshole for any reason. I've seen the same sentiment elsewhere, but there's definite nuance to Flash and MJ being a thing. To me, it seems like a major sign they're being pushed towards dating, and I hope Ewing/editorial has the time to course-correct if that was the plan.>>150648204Anon, none of that shit is happening. I want him back with MJ too, but if you can move off of self-inserting, which a bunch of people can't, it's at least better to move away from MJ and not make him a cuckold and Felicia a lesbian. Kinda speaking out of both sides of my mouth there, though. Shay's just boring, but inoffensive. We'd be better off if MJ was just single for a while, at the least.
>>150648286Oh, to add to this, PAD (R.I.P.) did a five issue King in Black tie-in about Peter, Kang, Rocket Raccoon, Black Knight and Captain Marvel II going into space to defeat Mister E, the proto-symbiote.
>>150645306Ask someone on Twitter and this is like that time Peter got beaten by the Vulture and started begging for his life.
>>150643913>KarlachThere have been other buff chicks in marvel BEFORE Karlach ever existed you faggot.>With Lae'Zel's facial fea-ACKLooks nothing like that frog, so either check your eyes or kill yourself. >>150644351>I didn't pla-ACKOpinion disregarded, kill yourself. In a painful way too. Then again, of course you wouldn't play it, this one comment is enough for me to deduce that It's too complex for you. Actually, anything more complex than candy crush is too complex for you.
>>150648409>PADDude's death still depresses the hell out of me.
>>150648409I actually liked that one.
>>150644323>Polish people have an inherent respect towards child molestersYes they do, Polish retards have a deep culture of pedophilia, but that is rich, coming from an American. You respect him both as a child molester AND as the bull of your wife's boyfriend, so...
>>150648444Yeah, it was good. I had read Marvel Spotlight v.2 #9 (the first appearance of Mister E), so seeing him brought back by Peter David was really exciting.
>>150644036>We need to heal from the "Peter is getting cucked" arc of the past four yearsHow do you actually do that? MJ abandoned Peter and got together with Paul. How do you fix that?
>>150648401>We'd be better off if MJ was just single for a while, at the least.No man. See it's this sort of mentality they feed off of. This is a fucking comic my nigga. MJ does not need to "be single for while". The bitch jumped from fostering a half-alien to having imaginary children to being bonded to an alien suit. There are NO rules my nigga. She can just as easily hop back to Peter. It would take 3 issues. Parker can go from defending Earth realm in Mortal Kombat Magic arena to SPACE, get a ANOTHER space symbiote, and meet Rocket fucking Raccoon in the process, but he can't get back with MJ in 3 issues? MJ needs to be single for a while? Nigga MJ needs Peter to save her ass from the alien symbiote before it permanently bonds to her because it secretly knows that MJ and Peter love each other. And because the symbiote straight up hates Peter, but also loves him in a fucked up way, it thinks that by bonding to MJ, Spiderman has no choice. He either lets that happen or he lets the symbiote bond with him. One or the other. Spidey comes back from space with his Phalanx suit. He tells the symbiote he will bond with it, and the suit jumps on him. But, surprise! The space suit is a Phalanx husk and it can mimic Peter without the symbiote knowing it isn't actually Peter inside the suit. When the symbiote gets on the Phalanx husk, it's trapped. The Phalanx act like a tech version of the symbiote, a virus that wants to bond. Glue meets glue. Now you have Venom/Phalanx space goop. Mr. Fantastic or the X-Men or whoever the fuck can show up and jar that thing until someone (Dylan, Brock, Aunt May) free it and join with it. MJ and Peter realize all they've gone through for each other, and MJ, being bonded to the Venom suit, see's Peter from another perspective that makes her realize how much he's done and how great of a dude he is. She fucks him on the spot, and they marry 2 issues later.
>>150648440Lady has cute and fluffy hair yet all anons can see is a man because she doesn't have the same body as an pinup drawn by Gomez after being experimented on.
>>150648529Nah, hopefully Hela kills MJ.
>>150648540Solution: Carlos Gomez substitutes for one issue.
Why is Hela Queen in Black? Give me the non-synergy version.
>>150648575The had to bond Knull with someone who had a >similar power set, or had a power set that was in line with his whole "resurrection/death/dark" vibe >was established enough to seem important and be used>but who wasn't overly used to the point of exhaustion>could not be used for long stretches and not be missed>was female
>>150648529>Nigga MJ needs Peter to save her ass from the alien symbiote before it permanently bonds to her because it secretly knows that MJ and Peter love each other.If Peter saving MJ from symbiote is supposed to bring Peter and MJ back together without properly addressing all that happened, then I am done that relationship. That would be so cheap.
>>150648458I do, Gwenschizo's definitely a child molester.
>>150648491Put them back together and let Paul be forgotten bing bong it's simple.
>>150648613>>was femaleWhy?
>>150648631And people wonder why comic book storytelling is looked down upon. Lol, just forget anything ever happened.
>>150648644May as well. Retarded stories deserve to be forgotten. Zeb Wells deserves to be forgotten, and denied as much legacy as possible.
>>150648618>If Peter saving MJ from symbiote is supposed to bring Peter and MJ back together without properly addressing all that happenedNigga they can properly address their relationship throughout the course of the series after they marry. But a couple who can go through all of that, still love each other, and be willing to go to those ends, means they are FOR LIFE my nigga. Nothing can break them up. All that old "I can't handle you being Spiderman. I can't handle the Venom suit." Is gone. All that 'How would I protect you MJ?" "How can I juggle being Spidey and a husband?" 'What if a villian threatened you?" Dead. They move on to figuring out how to be heros and people together. They figure out how to be parents and heros together. All the shit the Fantastic Four used to do before it left that behind because the kids were older, with a younger couple and fresh modern twist.
>>150648634>Why?>Why are they gender swapping characters in 2025?You just wake up from a coma?
>>150648704Hela was always a woman. She is based on Hel.
>>150648613>bond KnullSo he's like any other symbiotic and can bond with a host?
>>150648491I'm with you on the whole "MJ abandoned Peter" concept, but like everything else in comics, eventually some of this stuff will be forgotten. In the short term, MJ can apologize for treating Peter poorly. Peter can struggle with trusting her entirely. And like everything else in comic drama, eventually you just stop talking about it.
>>150648529>>150648668>nigga nigga nigga niggaDon't trust you to write a 4chan post much less say how you think Spidey books should be handled.
>>150648827Instead of a slime monster you become a white haired anime boy/girl.
>>150648850Yeah, I suppose so
>>150648440This board is way too obsessed with trans dicks, and want them to be showed it down their throats. (Said anons have no gag reflex btw)I like her personality. >Gets mildly scolded>"you don"t want me on the team", "you want me to die"
>>150648662It will never be forgotten. Just like sins past
>>150648870>Don't trust you to write a 4chanThe sanctity of a 4chan post lol. "MJ needs to be alone a while" is the mindset of faggot niggas, like you, who are sadly already editing and writing the stories that no one wants to read. Spiderman books suffer because a few zoomer dickless faggots who grew up thinking that getting cucked was a fetish and not an insult, have begun writing stories with the belief that a bunch of zoomer dickless faggots will read it. They aren't.
>>150648805Knull wasn't. That was the gender swap friend.
>>150648286I already said what was needed about the million secret wars that have happened. Infinity gauntlet was an ensemble story as well. This is Peter doing spider-man things across the cosmos as if he was in New York. No other spiders to leach off him, focusing on teaching others that you can't just kill to solve your problems, and no relationship drama either.
>>150635464So how long has that symbiote been operating? Looks like a mascot similar to Jeff
>>150649080Girl reeks of BPD and trauma. I like that in a fictional murder waifu.
>>150649113Knull looks like he's still a dude.
>>150649122A better idea would have been to send all the "spider leaches" into space on a grand adventure, and return Peter to NYC, to do Spiderman things in NYC. Considering all the shit that happens in NYC with hero's missing or events, you literally don't have to give him any other duty than "Try to keep the city together" as all that shit is happening. He stays grounded as a friendly neighborhood Spiderman who is still involved in the biggest city, the biggest events, doing his best at the margins, at street level.
>>150649159Well he's a coloring on her suit now. Nice try though.
>>150649155those are the most fun to be fucked into tradwives.
>>150635495Meathead musclefu
>>150649201Not muscular enough for that.
>>150648613Yeah, but why would she want to bond with him?
>>150635464more like nortubel tier spider-man
>>150649389>https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/nortubel/>look I posted it againThis is an 18+ siteShill your shitty itch.io game elsewhere
>>150638650Where's Sharty on this outdated graph?
>>150635766>Marvel Rivals>Hela talks big but immediately sluts up for Knull>Marvel comics>Hela shows no skin and disrespects her kingSad
>>150648827No, but his anatomy hasn’t been explored yet. Al Ewing implied he is made of the same primordial darkness as the symbiotes, though.
>>150649482I really wish Ewing would give an interview where he tells us what he thinks of all of Coats shit.
>>150635766>costume is just her normal costume but black leatherIf you're going to rip off rivals at least rip off the good visual designs
>>150635766Reminder that Hela was implied to be the killer of Sera in her Queen in Black emoji and her dialogue with Angela in Marvel Rivals. If there is a time for a Hela solo comic in a journey to kill Sera which is letting Kevin Feige's son have something to read and acknowledge as an undebatable Rivals synergy and undykeness, then that time is now.
>>150649636No one fucking cares about Sera
>>150635629 >>150635659God what a stupid cunt there's truly nothing to salvage on her character
>>150647834it's gonna be flash
>>150649871Honestly, I'd be happy with Agent Venom 2.0. I really enjoyed Flash's time as Venom.
Gee how do these shitty books still get to the bump limit? But then again it's now joined it wasn't used to be like this before
>>150649647Even lesser of a reasons to keep Sera alive then.
You know, I still don't think I've ever been as galled as when Jessica Drew looked at Miles Morales in Ultimate Spider-Man and went>The peter parker inside me is telling me .. you're the one and only Spider-Man now, kid ..
>>150635587jesus she's such a cunt now
Bump
>>150650062>now
>>150649636>queen in black hela, king in black peterwhat did they mean by this?
>>150635547>>150635756>Knull and Peter will return to Earth with power-ups out the assPeter is Ichigo, and Knull is Aizen.
>>150645323He's a good guy in the current arc, and he's the only one doing anything about NYC's crime spike after Peter's disappearance. The others are useless. >>150645900That's wrong because Ben was overpowering Norman while Miles was jobbing. Peter, especially a Peter who vows to become stronger, is the strongest Spider-Person on Earth.
>>150650062>Nowkek
>>150635504I thought it was Groot with a new horrible design
>>150635573I mean, it was an attack from the inside
>>150635756knullbros.. they can't keep doing this to us... they fucking cant!
>>150637840Obsessed
