I just watched it, and while Steven does embarass himself quite often, it was a very fun watch.
Future is better than seasons 3-5
steven turning into a giant penis monster and running away from his problems like his mother did soured it
Steven becomes terrible so quickly you can't believe he's the same character
>>150642440I feel like it was fairly reasonable that he was feeling so lost. And some of his worst decisions were backed by his role models, like his dad, and Ruby/Sapphire. They were all enabling him.
>>150642366chuds are not people
>>150642366Good show dragged down by the need to return to status quo townie filler episodes which felt a lot worse than they actually were because there six month hiatuses between them when the show was actually airing.
>>150642366The target audience for the original Stephen University hates feeling anything and this show had very raw and realistic teenage angst. I'm not gonna lie, I loved it. Too bad it's woke and satanic because it had a lot going for it.
>>150643434I was pretty upset at myself for tearing up at episode 19 after he reverts and starts crying. And then I wondered, why am I upset for having feelings. Maybe anons are the same...we need to work through our feelings, together!
>>150642366Not enough Peridot
>>150643434>Too bad it's woke and satanicmate, it's fucking steven universe. I don't know how you even got that far.
>>150642366for quite the opposite reason as most people, the first 2 seasons were good and had a much more vibrant artstyle with a good sense of mystery and magic realism
>>150643953forgot pic
>>150642366honestly? sugar should have gone to [as] for su and suf.also write the entire story and just have only animators make the damn show.
>>150643953>>150643972God season 1 was an entirely different series. I honestly miss this.
>>150643434>they ruined my faggot teenage feelingslop melodrama with WOKElmao
>>150644162because it was a western shonen mixed with dyke shit in a good way.we saw so many new locations and fantastical gem beast...
>>150643953This, after Jailbreak the tone of the series changed quite a bit. I feel like this isn't a unique problem to SU though, any story that uncovers a mysterious world/setting as it goes on often doesn't live up to the "mystery" of the first Act. The Diamonds acting like rich and out of touch aunt instead of otherwordly beings and any episodes in space not feeling even close to as magical or eerie as S1 episodes was a letdown. As much as I enjoyed Peridot her quick transformation from jaded cog to fandom gremlin and then toxic college roomies with Lapis just felt self-indulgent on the writers' part. Don't even get me started with Lapis either.
>>150644279by sheer irony, the fandom of this show is living up and even surpassing the season 1 of SU.look at steven auniverse comic or that black pearl comic, shit is good.
>>150643335Stfu and kys trannyfaggot
>>150644360I read the black pearl comicEdgy Op Oc
Why are they like this?
>>150642366>full of cheap and repetitive melodrama that doesn't make sense half the time>creators are too lazy and/or lack the balls to actually detail out the plot and tard wrangle the storyboarders who would rather write coffee shop fanfiction>tries to raise the stakes and expand on the universe, gives up and goes back to the protagonist wasting episode after episode playing doctor for the same groups of background characters>fails to deliver the message of "no real bad guys" in a believable way after showing the antagonists to be genocidal powertripping maniacs who are deeply despised by the supporting cast for years>blows budget on singer cameos that do no singing, animation sucks shit as the resultthe damage control on social media was kinda funny though. picrel is evergreen.
>>150642366People did like it. And then some really annoying people liked it. And then some even more annoying people made hating it their entire personality.
>>150644797what I loved about the comic is how in tune with season 1 it was, the worldbuilding was insane and the diamonds were flawlessly portrayed.
>>150646017I wish I had a tiny lady I could dress up in cute ways too. It's not fair.
>>150642366Steven's mental break needed more episodes. It begins and gets resolved way too fucking quickly. Especially Kaiju Steven.
>>150646354Really? His mental break starts from episode 1, I think you're misremembering. He talks with Amethyst in a really defeated way on how he has to help everyone, she tells him he can't fix the whole workd, he agrees, but then ignores her advice and goes to fix Jasper, and then gets incredibly mad at her and loses control of his powers for the first time. It was the plot from ep 1 all the way to the end.
>>150644657See what I mean?
I don't Even like the show but this was a fucking humiliation ritual, Steven acts like a sperg through the entirety of it and nothing cool happens, he just gets mad at the gems and his dad, then he drives off from Beach City for some reason
>>150647080I see that you are a faggot who’s should be killed
>>150643745Unironically my 'tistic niece made me watch it with her.
>>150644188I didn't say they ruined it anon. I know it was always like that. It being woke was what prevented it from being good.
>>150644657Gtfo and you first grannysperg tourist>>150647778and we see that you are a sperg who keeps crying and crying is not an option.
>>150647080No?SU was garbage btw
>>150642366There wasn't enough Blue, so viewers went into Blue Withdrawal and became cranky.
>>150642366Because its all fagshit all the time.
>>150649054What's so special about Blue?
>>150649564Blue makes you happy.
>>150642366>Why did people not like it?Because it's written by women and it shows.
>>150648187And being a faggot isn’t either
>>150645256>creators are too lazy and/or lack the balls to actually detail out the plot and tard wrangle the storyboarders who would rather write coffee shop fanfictionIt will never not be absolute pottery that staff did to Sugar on SU exactly what Sugar and co. did to Adventure Time.
>>150642366Its troon propaganda
>>150650261Which part specifically?
>>150650627The one in his head
>>150650627The Shep episode?
>>150650261Because one episode had one non-binary character?
>>150642366The good>Actually portrayed Steven's breakdown gradually>Didn't cuck out with Jasper>Blue Diamond got her own song and was a fucking babe every time they animated her like damn>The main Crystal Gem trio gets fleshed out one last time in some nice subtle waysThe bad>Wasted time on totally irrelevant plots even though they only had a limited number of episodes to work with>Painted Greg as an asshole kind of out of nowhere>Steven went full fucking retard with Connie like holy shit she was down to bang before you pulled that marriage shit>Kaiju Steven was a lame conclusion
>>150650658sheep?
>>150651686nah the chaaaps episode
>>150642366Because Steven is an annoying faggot, otherwise it's ok.
>>150642366Same reason The Dinosaur wasn't too good. Director didn't push enough on their own.
>>150642366Fag indoctrination propaganda disguised as a kid's show>townie episodes
>>150642366>Why did people not like it? As an epilogue series, fans didn't like that it was generally more mundane than the original Steven Universe series, which is funny since this had some of the best balancing of Gem stuff with grounded Townie stuff. I looove seeing superpowered characters doing their own twist on mundane everyday activities--think Miles Morales changing out of his spideysuit in the stairwell at the start of his second movie--and SU Future had loads of that stuff. It was just a cool way of exploring how lived-in this world felt after 160 episodes, and I also found Steven's identity crisis engaging.
>>150642366Because
>>150651686baaaaah
>>150642393Honestly yeah, I feel like they did more fun stuff with the gems and humans in Future.
>>150642366Because sugar is sweet but laced with poison. Shes the kind of woman that should be heard but put in her place when she gets over zealous.
>>150650215And being a sperg isn’t either
>>150642366There's no pleasing SU fans.
>>150650627All of it
>>150652022"The Dinosaur"?
>>150642366Not enough Pearl
>>150642366I liked seeing Steven a little older dealing with post-war stuff, but it was pretty mid and ruined the happy ending we had after the movie.And I'll never forgive them for killing Greg's hair.
>>150655569>and ruined the happy ending we had after the movie If you really feel that way, then you missed the lesson they waved right in front of you. There is no objective "happy ending." Life continues, and with that comes more battles to face with your friends, family, and loved ones. I was very content with SU Future as an epilogue, especially the ending where it's shown Steven still has to work on himself.
>>150655641Sure I get all that. But that doesn't make the melancholy ending more satisfying.And the fact that Steven leaves all his friends at the end runs contrary to the message that you're gonna face everything together.Sure, he didn't exactly leave them. He had plans to stay in touch or whatever. But that's what it felt like.
>>150655704>the fact that Steven leaves all his friends at the end runs contrary to the message that you're gonna face everything together See that's a fair complaint. Still, the main conflict of Future was STEVEN'S internal struggles. He felt as though he had to face his issues alone, but by the end of it, he realizes his dad and his girlfriend and his Gem family will always be there when he needs some help. Steven just needed to get out of his own head to see what was around him the whole time.
>>150655569Poor Greg didn't deserve that...
>>150655704I don't think that's the message. I think it would be silly to teach people to always rely on others to live your life. When things get really bad, they will be there to help, but Steven needs to learn to live his own life too
>>150655641>>150655704I thought what they were going for in Future was fine considering Steven really did stomach way too much bullshit for a 14 year old, but the way it was resolved was just naive, for lack of a better word. The resolution of Steven's breakdown with everyone suddenly realizing the error of their ways, apologizing to him in order, and then doing a group hug felt like it was written by someone who wasn't finished with all of the therapy work they needed to come to terms with their emotionally neglectful parents. It came off as self-indulgent on the writer's side because if you've been in therapy long enough you know that seeking those apologies in the first place (that may never come) is the wrong way to approach healing. It comes off as badly written as Encanto's ending where the grandma suddenly realizes the error of her ways after being a menace for DECADES and is suddenly emotionally mature and self-aware enough to gently apologize to Mirabel for being shit to her. I guess you can say it's passable for a kid's show but Future was already tackling complicated PTSD shit that kids can barely understand in the first place.
Making sweet, sweet, PASSIONATE love to Pearl!!
So are Rebecca and Ian breaking up? She put out that song and it seems like there's trouble in paradise.
>>150642366It becomes a lot better if you imagine this as a cautionary tale on why same-sex couples shouldn't raise kids.
>>150658617Go on, elaborate
Why was Steven so cucked here?
>>150655867The whole proposal thing felt out of character as well. Steven was a bit isolated from human customs but he would know not to just ask someone to marry him like that and fuse forever. Especially if he didn’t even ask her to be his gf at that point. I mean he has Greg and goes to him for advice on stuff regularly. He would have definitely explained his idea to him and he would have been like “woaaahh there Stuball, this is a big step. You’ve gotta take these things slow.”
>>150658699>what is teenage angst and raging hormones The whole point was that Steven was "acting out-of-character" because this was his first time truly dealing with the trauma and emotions he'd been bottling up the entire series. That came out in questionable ways, one of which being the proposal and clingy attachment to Connie after realizing all his human friends were moving on with their lives in "Little Graduation."
With the power of Peridot, I beam this thread straight to page 1
>>150658694Where?
>>150642366>golly gosh!>I'm a little bit older and more mature now!>wow good for you Steven!>OH MY GOD I HAVE SO MUCH ANXIETY AND PTSD AND MENTAL ILLNESS I AM NOT OKAY I NEED TO DO THERAPY OH NO I'M A MONSTER NOW WHICH IS A NEW POWER THAT I ALSO HAVE>anyways now that we've sorted that all out, I've decided for no clear reason at all that the solution to all of my problems is to get in a van and drive away from all of my friends, family, and loved ones. This is a healthy thing that Millennial urbanites do and it certainly isn't an expression of the mentally ill writers' unresolved trauma in their own lives>the end
Lapis during Alone at Sea: “I'm really trying to enjoy it out here, but... I can't stop thinking about being fused as Malachite, how I used all my strength to hold her down in the ocean, and how I was always battling against Jasper to keep her bound to me.”>Literally the last time we see Malachite on screen:
>>150660977>This is a healthy thing that Millennial urbanites doThis but unironically
>>150662518Stfu trannyfaggot
>>150662540No, I don't think I will
>>150659531No it fucking wasn’t. Steven dealt with shit before and he would usually go to his dad or someone else to talk. He would know he can rely on other people and it’s not like he was completely isolated while he was gone.
>>150646135go buy a barbie doll. now it is fair.
>>150654938Sorry I completely forgot and omitted 'good'. I meant the "The Good Dinosaur."
>>150662639Then kys
>>150663164No, I don't think I will
>>150642366Steven Universe was molten garbage all the way through.I have no reason to believe this will be any different.
>>150663237seethe
>>150663264Make a better show Becky
>>150663276I'm actually Zuke
>>150663391Then make better storyboards
>>150663537I did, that's why Becky wanted me out
>>150642366Partially because every ending this series got was worse than the previous ending.
>>150644360>>150644797It's been a while since it last updated weekly. I hope Revolver_d is doing alright
>>150663549Wrong you fag
>>150663807seethe
>>150642366Steven Universe >teenager>shapeshifter >quasi immortal >can resurrect the dead as quasi immortal/immortal revenants>first and only male of an all female alien race>part of the ruling class of that race>could’ve subjugated humanity using threat of the ClusterSteven should’ve gone full assed Leto Atreides II and turned into a worm/penis monster declared himself god emperor of both gems and humanity and vented his sexual frustration on various gems and human women, trapping Connie in a Duncan Idaho-esque cycle of being fucked to death and resurrection, his throne would just be Blue Diamond’s ass, like you come into the throne room and he emerges from her asshole in the form of giant pink penis worm, then pulls back the foreskin concealing his head and begins demanding Connie be brought to him for her daily “training”
>>150664510I second the motion.Because these characters deserve to suffer. The messed up sex stuff I can take or leave.
>>150664510I have questions>Emerges from Blue’s ass in the form of a penis monsterDo Blue and Yellow go ass to ass using Steven or use him as a double dildo/strap on?Does Steven fuck Connie to death by trying to shove himself inside her and ends up rupturing her body or dies he manifest dozens of tentacle dicks with his shapeshifting powers like some japanman fetish shit and she just expires from exhaustion before he reanimates her?
>>150642366At the time of airing, people felt let down by a steady decline in quality after an impressive peak at the end of season 1 (this was back before 4chan hated lesbians so that wasn't an issue on this board at the time). The finale of the whole series also was very rushed, for which the movie and sequel series didn't compensate at all. There were also a lot of complaints about "filler" townie episodes, which I always thought was a sign of a short attention span, but they did have a point: in season 1, every townie episode involved gem stuff in some way and so contributed to the dripfeed of foreshadowing. Later episodes were more often Steven just screwing around with humans without contributing very much beyond side character development. Aforementioned dripfeed also set up expectations that could never be met, since what people imagine based on little hints is always going to be cooler than what a show actually provides in the end. That's a little charitable, too - the show seemed to quickly lose any single unifying creative direction. I can easily believe it could have been great with a firmer hand on the rudder.That, or too many soft bois, homos and talking about feelings, which some people are allergic to.
>>150664510You know anon I suspect you might not have actually read Dune
>>150664869k
the thing about SU is that Rebecca Sugar is an incredibly gifted writer, artist, musician and worldbuilder, but she is not a showrunner. Most of the show's failures stem from her inability to say no to any of the storyboarders she hired off tumblr. However, it's still pretty good despite all of that, somehow, and even the rushed ending doesn't come out of nowhere or anything like the AT one did. The Townieslop hurts a lot less when you're watching it all on streaming too
>>150666158Rebecca's annoying because she's not actually a bad person but I can't stand her.
What happened to Steven after he fled Beach City?
>>150666158Shes not a show runner. Shes the cute mousey one who helps around the studio with good ideas. And disappears into the office if the frequently angry 6 foot tall head writer for an hour only to emerge stinking if sex glowing and walking funny. Or has dusty knees after shes called in to discuss things with the animation director. Shes indispensable for a project but never allowed any actual power because shell be taken advantage of.
>>150666214he got raped
>>150667103by Greg
>>150666434Could you please repeat your point without the incomprehensible lunatic shit? We don't all live in your head.
>>150662518Only if you have a terrible abusive relationship with everyone in your life, but unless you actually address that problem, then that shit will just follow you wherever you go. Running away and pretending like getting away from a place will make the problems that exist inside of you go away is childish thinking and shows that now actual growth of maturing has taken place.
>>150659531>because this was his first time truly dealing with the trauma and emotions he'd been bottling up the entire series.The entire fucking series before future was Steven constantly crying about, confronting, and overcoming his emotions and trauma you dishonest retard.
>>150666158>the thing about SU is that Rebecca Sugar is an incredibly gifted writer,She isn't. Her best ideas are stolen from Transformers, DBZ, Sailor Moon, and Utena and none of them are developed or recontextualized well enough to actually become a truly original and unique set of stories.
>>150667155Megabased
>>150667155A woman named Greg
Do you think he took a plane to Sheepstein's island?
>>150642366Shapeshifted himself into a futa, and whored himself out at truck stops and currently pregnant with someone’s bastard
Steven then died from AIDSThe end
>>150663168HAH millennial what does it feel to know you're the worst generation that ever walked the earth aside from boomers?
>>150664061Go to bed
Would have rather had a show about Steven building era 3 with his family and friends.
>>150645256Literally this. I remember Blue Diamond's first reveal during Garnet's flashback and all the cool theories and fanfic about Yellow and Blue Diamond's courts, how they treat their gems, the types of gems they employ, the mystery of white diamond, that temple with what looked like Pink Diamond being shattered, etc.And then the show just completely drops all the gem worldbuilding a season later. The magic/mythical element from the first season is gone, they shat the bed expanding on the sci-fi elements, the new gem designs gradually got more basic and ugly, and homeworld itself looked like absolute garbage.
>>150672550Anytime I think about it, I always end up going on a nostalgic trip to look at all the fanfic and fan art over the course of the show's run, and looking back at how amazing it was and (back then) thinking the show would do even better, it now all seems so surreal how little of a shit Sugar and her crew gave about anything besides the main gems and those annoying ass townies.I still fully believe that the gem lore was just Rebecca Sugar's bait and switch to get people to watch her androgynous, colorful blobs dick around in le comfy beach town
>>150670531Just undo the fusion
>>150672741Too easy
>>150642366This cartoon sucks
>>150642366/co/ is legitimately the only group I saw get mad at the ending. They really wanted Steven to stay in Beach City forever and were acting like him temporarily moving away was like he was being banished.
>>150673856It's a non-solution and a non-resolution to a problem they invented for this series because they had a single idea (Kaiju Steven)
Don't they think it might be a little irresponsible to even allow Steven to leave on his own? He went through a stressful situation and in response turned into a giant fucking monster. Sure, he can say he's totally good now and his issues are resolved, but imagine Steven getting into a road rage incident or some other stressful conflict? Can we really say with 100% certainty that Steven won't relapse and accidentally Jasper some random asshole? I don't HATE the ending mind you, but it feels pretty short-sighted and dangerous to let the kid who just turned into a city destroying monster go on a solo road trip.
>>150673944>because they had a single ideaThat's pretty much Sugar's entire creative process right there. She comes up with a starting idea, and then has no fucking clue where to go with it. She comes up with an ending idea, and has no fucking clue how to get there. In either case she mostly just bumbles about or lets other people fuck around until she gets bored and just has shit stop.
>>150674086It's because Sugar's writing bias leans toward "OC" and shipping content. When OC writers make shows it's evident because those tend to have grand aspirations for some large overarching narrative and worldbuilding, but their habit of hyperfocusing on character moments gets in the way, leading to half-assed story beats and worldbuilding. See any of Vivziepop's works. It always shows when writers don't respect the actual writing and research that needs to go into their ambitious projects to pull them off.
>>150668957Nah. There is absolutely a super sharp divide in Steven's character before and after the episode the Test where he sees the anxieties the other gems are having and from then on, tries his best to project confidence around them.
>>150643733She had an entire episode dedicated for her. She should've had MORE.
>>150673829and fucks
>>150672550>>150672579Fan theory posting and world building will always be more interesting because what could be is always more interesting than what is.
>>150673829>>150674470in that order?
>>150674415EXACTLY. She was one of the most popular characters despite having way less screen time than the main cast, she should have joined them and given more episodes when she became a crystal gem
>>150674168And yet he still constantly talks about and centers every episode on his feelings.
>>150642366cool logo
>>150674415It was a crime that we never saw a Peridot fusion. They even teased us by having her do the fusion dance with Garnet. I'll never forgive them.
>>150675343Agreed, Peridot should have fused at least once
>>150675343she's asexual, sorry chud
>>150675592I can't believe Steven fucked his dad
>>150642366The main problem is it's half excellent and half really shitty. The good episodes are REALLY good and the bad episodes are REALLY bad. On a rewatch I literally skip like half the episodes and can still follow the plot perfectly.
>>150642366>Why did people not like it?Because YouTubers who got filtered by the main series told them to. Next question.
>>150642366Trannies hated it. Because they are incapable of enjoying anything. Much like they couldn't enjoy the body they were born in.
>>150676283Stfu
>>150676305>SU fan calling anyone a fag
>>150642366They cut a season off the real show and completely rushed the ending, then put out a season of epilogue. Why do you think people didn't like it?
>>150676349Takes one to know one, after all
>>150674625fan theory and worldbuilding is what kept the fan base alive during the droughts, and honeslty it's those periods of the show I liked the best, there is such a thing as explaining too much and I can't wait for lars of the stars to be more of that!!111
>>150676516Nope
>>150676949Yup, sorry but you are a certified homo now
>>150676967Where would one go to get this certificate? Asking for a friend
>>150677097Just go to the nearest gas station and ask for a faggot certificate
>>150677134I tried that but the oral exam was really tough
>>150676297Gtfo
>>150677306YoloDmv
>>150677383fr fr no cap unc
>>150676283>some YOUTUBER did it!Or they watched the show and hated it, you disingenuous faggot. Not everyone is an illiterate zoomer who needs opinions fed to them like you do.
Steven could kill you in a fight
>>150678188A large dog could kill me in a fight, I'm not sure how it's relevant
>>150678188cool
>>150677580Based zoomer
>>150642366It should've been the final season to tie all loose ends. Not cause some bullshit drama in Steven's life. Damn fuck, we SHOULD'VE had an episode for Centipeetle/Nephrite, Steven's first gem healed but we got drama instead.
>>150682559Exactly. Should have been about what happens to the Gempire and what happens to Earth after all the fighting has stopped. Healing every corrupted Gem. Fixing the damage their Gempire did to the universe. Instead it's new drama with no real ending, because they were probably desperate enough to believe that there'd be another season any day now that they'd need more material for, so they couldn't just fully end it.
>>150678188I never claimed otherwise.
>>150642366Are we still talking about SU?
>>150678188This is a fantasy character of a tiny queer woman i could kill if I go balls deep
>>150642366Steven's mental breakdown was great, but the way it's resolved with a stupid group hug is just... embarrassing.
>>150685661Occasionally.
>>150642366Because the show was not good
>>150673944>It's a non-solution and a non-resolutionWell yeah, Steven can't magically get better, that's not how healing works. The kaiju was just for the sake of throwing some stakes into a cartoon show.
>>150686570Says you.
>>150658432Pretty sure it's about a toxic old flame. Ian & Rebecca are as dandy as pumpkin pie
>>150686589>of course the ending isn't an ending and the problem it created isn't resolved!That's retarded.
>>150676501See >>150676283
>>150683342I still don't think Era 3 will work out in the long run. Like yeah individuality is cool and all, but gems are literally built for specific roles and to be mostly identical. They then subsist off stripping planets of their resources, otherwise they can't reproduce.Now, how do you fix this? Well, clearly gems must be a republic, because that works on earth for humans. They also need to stop reproducing, because that's bad. Even though they apparently haven't encountered life up until humanity.You'd be retarded if you said any of this about termites, btw.
>>150691002oh my stars...
>>150642366>Why did people not like it?Orb in forehead is too disturbing for recurring milf character.
>>150691565Clod!
>>150642366>embarass dumbass
>>150691033If termites had sapient minds they should probably be a republic. If termites could only reproduce by exterminating sapient world they probably shouldn't do that. If you had a brain you should probably come up with valid arguments. I don't hate what you're saying, just that you're such a stupid shit. Please do better.
>>150692363Steven, I know you think turning Homeworld into the USA will work, but you are laughably naive and arguing in the favor of simple ethics. I'm not going to vomit a wall of text to show you the various ways in which you are wrong, as usual, but if you pay attention to the show longer than three minutes, you will quickly note just how thoroughly and unintentionally it demolishes it's own message of Gem individuality.Go back to your cuck car, Steven.
>>150691737kek
>>150642366season 5 finale and the movie finale both had satisfactory endings. The Future ending just did not hit that same emotional high. It was like "the journey continues", except with a lot of unresolved feelings, possibly a sequel bait, except there were no concrete plans whatsoever. So fuck off, Sucrose. Couldn't just fucking tie this series in a neat bow and move on to something else.
>>150694147>Couldn't just fucking tie this series in a neat bow and move on to something else.To be fair, SU is the biggest success of her life
>>150691033Easy. Most gems will end up following their old roles by choice which will keep things stable. But this time people will have the freedom to branch out if they want.They can still strip planets for new gems. Just leave the ones with life alone.Also they don't really NEED new gems since they're immortal. The only reason they're doing it is to expand the empire.
