How the fuck do people find jobs in the animation industry? Not just as an animator, but as anything. Very rarely do studios update their websites or list current openings. Some studios don't even have a "General Submissions" way to drop your portfolio with them. Even the small commercial studios make it intentionally vague if there are job openings. The only ones that have been extremely easy to apply to are Titmouse and BentoBox. I just don't know how this industry even exists in its current state or how new artists manage to find work at all.
>>150654180>How the fuck do people find jobs in the animation industry?They don't lol
>>150654180>How the fuck do people find jobs
>>150654180You make a short film using the knowledge you gained from your time at California Institute of the Arts (or a school of similar prestige) and if it's good, they'll find you
>>150654180They aren't. The industry is in shambles. Cartoon Network doesn't exist anymore. Netflix Animation doesn't exist anymore. Nickelodeon barely greenlights anything. Disney TV greenlights the occasional something, which is why Bento Box and Titmouse artists have work. Disney and Pixar never hire because they keep talent forever. And everybody else is laying off employees. Nobody is making much or hiring. Western animation is dead except for smaller projects/indie shit. And Amazon and Glitch are pretty much the only people bankrolling those, and they aren't hiring either.
>>150654180>JobsKekalek
>>150654180It's actually really really hard. For the last decade or so it was get a good following on Twitter, find working people, connect with them, get in so they can suggest jobs for you. Elon fucked that up so now there really is no reliable methodology to landing a job.
>>150654180Nepotism
>>150654180It has been next to impossible even for well documented industry veterans with an amazing resume and loads of contacts since early 2023. Pic related just gave up a few months ago and is now teaching at SCAD. Linkedin is full of industry guys talking about how they cannot get any work at all and plenty more saying they have had a single gig in two years.
>>150654547>get a good following on TwitterEven that method in itself is an incredibly flawed way of finding work and only benefits a small portion of artists. And even back then, if you posted "wrong opinions" right next to your artwork, you would've gotten passed up regardless of your follower count. And I'm not just talking about political affiliation, but having any criticisms of the industry would've made people look the other way. It's not so much like that now and I see plenty of people bitching about the industry, but it definitely wasn't that way even before Muskrat.
>>150654562nepotism isn't about having basic networking skills
>>150654568Damn that sucks...
>>150654629That era was a real emperor's new clothes moment
>>150654629>>150655462No serious recruiter is gonna ban you for openly saying you're not a fan of something. It's when you make that blind hatred your whole personality that it becomes a problem for your employability.
>>150654562Nope, not even knowing the right guy will help you in this industry. America really has contempt for animation.
>>150654180Nepotism and Cronyism. Either you suck dick/asshole/ego or you don't get a job.
what's stopping them from forming their own animation studios like they do overseas
>>150657947The fact they're all broke and nobody's buying any shit anyways.
>>150657947Money
>>150657947They don't want to hand animate for indie wages or gamble on a project, they want to storyboard for union rates
>>150654180Recruiting from social media. All my jobs have been from Twitter and one was even from a convention when someone from a company gave me their business card after buying something from my artist alley booth and emailed me after the con.>>150654629>>150656330"Don't say stupid shit on main" is just basic professionalism. If you're so immature that you use your main art handle to complain about other shows or act like a misanthrope that's simply a red flag. It's like the idiots who post NSFW of the shows they're working on to private accounts that have followers from randos not in the industry - it WILL be leaked. Keep your NSFW in your own hard drive/drawers and keep shittalking to irl dinner conversations with your girlfriend/boyfriend or your roommates. Social media has made idiots too comfortable with thinking their opinions matter and need to be shared 24/7.
>>150654180Be a fagJoin a unionBitch on the internet about whats popularOh did you want to have self respect or work on a project you enjoySorry be rich and make it yourself or be a dirty slut for a rich dude who'll fund you for access to your holesStudios want 1000% profit for sweat shop labor because evey whiny queer is a liability making gay nonsense that they cant sell anything from. All the studios are billions in debt and it takes one bad year to lose 50% of stock valueBut they cant just make straight shows for straight dudes who will buy toys, thats not inclusive
>>150658176>"who's (((yves bigerel/balak/hecchidechu)))?"He pretty much checks off your list of what not to do, with the "leaks" even being releases.
>>150654568Just a few days ago I saw a guy on Linkedin who was responsible for most of the big show title cards and title logos claim he has had steady work for 20+ years, and absolutely no jobs at all in the last two.
>>150654547>>150654629Twitter was basically how I got every job. I never landed a single gig from applying. It was always social media contacts that got me anything.Also the comments on Twitter thing, it's really just about keeping it professional. It's best to have a professional account where you just post work and say hi to industry guys. But never get into fights, arguments, or shit flinging, just stay professional. It's not hard or some horrible draconian torture thing either.
>>150657947Money, most industry animators barely make it to paycheck and live like college students. It takes a lot of startup capitol to make up a studio and pay people since most shorts still require a pretty large team of people to make anything of substance. There is also the technology needed for the job, expensive software etc.
>>150657947Starting your own studio only works when you already have the work. So if you're an independent animator who gets contracted, and then you build up enough connections that one of your contacts asks if it would be possible to get your help on a very big project, you could start a small, remote animation studio and hire a couple of people to offload some of the work. In that way, you have the foundation for a potential studio that could grow to to the next Titmouse or Mercury Filmworks or something.But if you're just starting a studio with no clients, connections, and don't know any artists who could meet your expectations, then it's gonna go nowhere.
>>150654180I get offers on the regular and that's because I don't talk on social media. I only post art regularly related to the work I want. Jobs keep coming. Using social media more like a portfolio than a vent chamber actually works.
>>150654180networking. That's what schools are for.
>>150654180The job market in general is fucked right now, so now add that fucked status to an industry that’s already very competitive and now even just getting a temp job in animation is like getting a water bottle in mad max. If you aren’t a nepo hire that is
>>150654180Short answer, Instagram.Many of the people industry just scroll on instagram post and they seek people who just post their job and work progress, focus on just personal ideas and what you like, people can see when you beg and crave for attention. Many friends have been hired with their work progress of animatics, 3D models and some specific shit like backgrounds.Artstation is just a digital portfolio to see what else have you done, just drop whatever finished product in there.
Protip:Cold calling game devs and publishers to get work making 2d sakuga trailers is the current meta for anyone trying to get consistent non union 2d animation work. Its the current equivalent of animating toy commercials, it has more room for creative fulfillment if you want to draw something that isn't boring slop, and it keeps the lights on if you want to build a real portfolio. They have a product to sell, which means they'll have money, and the incentive to get eyes on that product with quality work.Truth is the LA union massively fucked up during negotiations and now people are paying the price, but beyond that they kind of sold people on this idea that the school-LA move-internship-showrunner pipeline was a realistic thing for most people rather than a way of getting more footsoldiers paying union dues for a while before burning out. The smart thing was always to either do your own thing or join smaller service (ie commercial or ad firm) studios if you wanted a stable job in the arts.If you want to still do entertainment for a living go work in film, not fucking tv. Its easier to get funding grants/crowdfunding with film and you have an end product that has a monetizeable model off of streaming rights and film festival release pickups. Or just do what most people trying to hack it do and find someone doing white collar crime who needs to wash some money. That's how half of the shit in the 80s got funded.
>>150657199That doesn't sound right...
>>150658176>keep shittalking to irl dinner conversations with your girlfriend/boyfriend or your roommates.Good way to not have either for long. If you can't talk to strangers, you probably shouldn't talk.
>>150657947A lot of overseas countries pay for health insurance. It’s one big reason everyone is outsourcing. If you live in California and your company gets over 10 full-time employees. You have to pay health insurance which is not cheap in this country. Also if you move out of the US the US is the only country that makes you still pay taxes still even if you don’t live there anymore. You’re just fucked if you’re an American.
>>150654180My friend from high school got a six figure job at a major studio with this one clever trick: his dad is a director and hired him
>>150654547I don't work in animation, but I work in audio. Last year, in October, there was a HUGE fucking exodus to Bluesky. I lost a huge chunk of followers from people just deactivating their accounts. My engagement craters. Opportunities dried up. And the funny thing? Bluesky flopped too. Huge initial spike, but it was just full of too many crazies. So now no one has anywhere to congregate and connect.
>>150660371The animation union is so shit it genuinely would be better if it got destroyed
>>150662065>six figure job Lies.
>>150660371Bye bye squirrel
>>150654180In short this.>>150658648That isn't the case at all, if anything it's...Be straightStay out of any unionGive proper non-bias review about whats popularDo you want to have self respect and work on a project you enjoy?Theres a few Looney Tunes projects in the works at Warner Bros. Also SpongeBob is still going.Studios want only to make back it's production budget because every whiny queer is a liability making gay nonsense that want to block anything that is good. All the studios are billions in debt and it takes one bad year to lose 50% of stock value.But thanks to Blu-Ray selling again thanks to Warner Archive, Trump placing a 100% tariff on foreign programing (especially anime which caused Japan to start doing shows aimed at normies, families and kids instead of otaku and dropping their seasonal from 250 shows a season down to 25 and only exporting the show that are large enough hits that foreign companies only have to pay the tariff) and MeTV Toons it is now possible to just make straight shows for straight dudes who just want to be entertained and don't want to return to the darkest days of the 1980s, thats not inclusive, thats just common sense.
>>150663410>Faggotcom post.Post real world shit than fictional bait.
>>150663420Theres no fictional bait here, only real world shit.
>>150663427The fuck kind of Zuul shit you're talking about?
>>150663440This >>150663410
start with actually having a good portfolio
Don't, animation is a dead jobhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdviuzS_bLU
>>150660890they got that shit on doe
>>150663473Looks like dogshit
