Where were YOU when Smiling Friends saved the animation industry?
>no chrisEternal suffering for the Irish
>>150675508they could've ordered the picture like the name of the studio but instead they went with MZA
>>150675515Good
>>150675515He probably still works there, just not as a founder
>>150675575yeah, as the errand boy
>>150675581That's what he gets for not honing his crafts and play vydia all day
>>150675515>Chris insults Tomar>Tomar uses the emeralds>They suddenly go missing and must be found again>Chris suffers eternallyCoincidence???????
Reminder, I low diff composite Lions and Serpents.Hindus and Norse paganism BTFO
>>150675575Friendly reminder that Zach has another guy do the music for Smiling Friends. Chris's involvement in the series is minimal
>>150675508I wish they would start making some action animation instead of only focus on jokes
>>150675607>SchizoshitThe fuck are you on about
>>150675508ZAMN!
>>150675508>Aron Frommwho? is this the new mike michaud kino?
nworb
>>150675508wtf is wrong with zachs face?regular humans dont look like that
>>150675508>Aron FrommThat guy follows Foxford/Wormwood, spumdonor and a bunch of other far right comix guys on twitter, pretty surprising (and based)
>>150675508Expect a dozen repeats of SF in order to pay for their studio rent.
>>150675508Why don't they start an animation studio somewhere with lower rent and property taxes. Like Nebraska or something?
>>150675790>muh social connections
>>150675756>Be born with a birth defect and a weird fuckin voice>Stay focused even when you fail>Don't fuck around with things like drugs/fags/prostitutes>Actually make a successful show in a dead industryMakes it more of an achievement
>>150675575If Chris kisses their ass enough, they might let him sleep on their couch
>>150675790Because NE is 95% corn and hateful human beings and the remaining 5% is Omaha.>>150675800>Actually make a successful show in a dead industryMore like a dead channel that's only propped up by Rick & Morty.
>>150675508Those faces scream "I’m gonna make Spumco look like a fucking joke"
>>150676071>Gonna make John K. look like mother Theresa>Epstein Island gonna seem like a daycare run by eunuchs when we're done
>>150675508>A studio for cartoons where half the runtime is wasted on DUDE REALISTIC CONVERSATIONS LMAO with no punchline whatsoeverYeah I'm sure that'll save the industry
>>150675508>ZAM studios>They used the first letter of their names to make the name of the studioSomething really wholesome about that.
>>150676150I mean fuck, it's worked for all the mega pop culture shows for decades, why stop?
why do I have a bad feeling about this?
>>150675508I mean, vivzie pop did the same
>>150676295Because you're an eternally online 4chan cynic.
>>150675756Zach looks like the son of Norm and Gilbert to me
>>150676161Its an ego thing that zach got to go first
>>150675756The looks like a custom made character in a fromsoftware game. He looks like he could be recreated perfectly in Bloodborne.
>>150676377His sense of humor tracks
>>150675790They’re in Hollywood to develop and sell packaged IP, not hire inbetweeners
>>150675581Works the mail room
>>150675508>>150675581
i wonder how much it takes to take a job in this studio? Does it accept illustrators?
All it took was Newgrounds artists and youtubers to fix the American animation industry?
>>150675508>ZAM is their initials>Zach, Aron, Michael>shows their faces in order MZAFucking journalists.
>>150676683They actually had their names legally changed to Aichael, Ack and Zaaron I'll have you know
>>150676736Wait I fucked that up
>>150676736THAT WOULD SPELL AAZ NOT ZAM
>>150675756He had some kind of infection on his skull as a baby, permanently shut one of his nasal cavities from the base of his head. Thats why he has the weird voice, he's permanently talking with one nostril shut.
>>150675508What's that third guy done beside a 40sec adult swim bumper?
>>150675519They do the same thing on movie posters where the names don’t match the order of the actors. ZAM made sense because you can actually pronounce it, but they weren’t going to put Aron Fromm 2nd when Michael and Zach are the bigger stars.
>>150676770>check Aron Fromm's IMDB>see Personal Info>Alternative name: Aron GeldbergOh he handling the dealing and money I guess.
>>150675790Because as a new studio they need to network their asses off and schmooze at industry events. To do that, you need to be where that’s happening. That ain’t Nebraska.
>>150676398Probably more that it made the most sense. Their other options were MAZ or AMZ.
>>150676563You’ll have to have had work on other productions. Start on student projects, work your way up to some more prominent indie work, and by that time you’ll have a solid portfolio and will probably already know people who work there who can give you a heads up when they’re looking.
>>150675790Ain't no Eyes Wide Shut parties and coke rails in fuckin Nebraska m8
>>150675591I thought Chris just conflicting philosophy about his craft than Zach a bit, Zach seened pretty passively miffed when Chris didnt sign a cartoon series to CN/AS due to chris hating the idea of giving away the rights of his characters away (which doesnt seem to hold much weight these days from an outside perspective)
>>150675508Why they do studios in L.A. and not in a cheap place?
>>150677060Cartoons are by rich people for rich people
>>150677060(((connections)))
>ZAMN studios
>>150677146Wrong
>>150677156שלום
I hope now that season 3 is done, we'll see Zach on Oneyplays more often. Also, several seasons got greenlit at once so there'll probably be less of a gap between them now that it's been streamlined.I wonder what the first episode will be. Probably that Silly Samuel one from the previews.
>>150675508can any of yall niggas drop a link, i wanna read this shit
I think it kinda sucks being a fan of Oneyplays before watching Smiling Friends, cause many of the jokes are resued in the show. Its great for new people, but not as funny hearing a joke the 5th time. I do think its good for an adult show to have more positivity, maybe it can be a good trend after years of South Park and Family Guy influence over adult animation
>zamIsnt there already an animation studio working with glitch with that name?
>>150676150It's working?
>new LA based studioThank god, I was just thinking about how there weren’t enough animation studios in LA, so glad I’ll be able to hear more stories from more privileged silver spoon Californians soon enough.
Apparently, Tomar worked on the latest Spongebob episode
>>150676150zach should go back to satire
>>150675508>Even animators that started posting cartoons on the internet from random areas around the world go to LA eventually.Sad how networking works today despite things like the internet.Like you have to be in LA or you'll never grow beyond "whacky internet cartoon shorts".Is it really that hard to be able to find a handful of animators who are willing to relocate to a less know area and setup shop?
Why can't more animation studios be set up in other parts of the US? Danny Antonucci's studio was in Canada
>>150678476who doesn't want tomar's support
>>150678586Didn't the whole sleepycabin crew move to philly to make stuff together? They're going to LA because Adult Swim has all the funding. I'm sure they'd love to live elsewhere, judging by the thoughts they've sharded on the letsplay.
>>150675515Chris is still making Bowlo
>DUH CALIFORNIAThis is like complaining about Country music artist migrating to NashvilleYou can not like it but it's fucking insane how you guys apparently don't understand why it's there and not Nebraska
>>150678586Getting an art job or 'making it' as a successful artist has about the same odds as winning the lottery. I don't know why anyone would even bother trying to make money from art
Why does /co/ desperately want Zach to fail
>>150678801A lot of posters here are failed artists who now work in mundane jobs they hate.Not even joking.
>>150678641Yeah fucking right. It's still on my wishlist with no updates
>>150678801something something crabs and buckets
>>150678476>"Josh" TomarThe nerve on this guy
>>150678665>comparing an entire medium to one music genreNot really helping your case here.
How much money do you think Zach and Michael make from SF? Because it feels like there's been a lot of incidents of cartoon showrunners for Warner getting screwed over despite the success they create and end up living off pennys. Surely it's at least more than what let's playing rakes in right?
>>150675508>his studio has only existed for five minutes and Zach is already pushing right-wing fuckery
>>150679187But where's the lie?
>>150679187None of this is political, but I'm sure you know that.
>>150675508Why do they all look like they're one step away from hanging themselves?
>>150679187He's said nothing about the content of shows just that animation itself is stiff and lifeless. Where's the lie?
>>150679187>Arron the literal "who" of the group has a big blerb about him on the about page while Zach and Michael get two sentences of nothings.
>>150679349It's the animator look
>>150675776He also follows a bunch of genAI people, I wonder if they're going to use it in their productions
>>150679413
>>150679413>George DroydUh oh, not good optics
>>150675776>>150679413>>150679427I don't see any of that...
>>150679477I took those screenshots back in March after he posted the Looney Tunes inspired SF bumper, he might have unfollowed all the wrongthink accounts recently
>>150679187Where's this from?
>>150679381>pic rel>asks for eggplant>sees tails cock instead>laugh because its funny : )>>150679187how is that statement right wing in anyway
>>150679526https://www.zamstudios.net/In the about section.
>>150679187>right-wing fuckeryKek, imagine being so brainwashed by the online calarts defending crowd you think that wanting better looking cartoons is something only right-wing chuds want, brainlets like you are one of the reasons why all modern cartoons look like ass.
>>150679533>flash-esque websiteYeah, I'm thinking SOVL
>>150675508>LA BasedWatching pigs take to the air.
>>150679531>how is that statement right wing in anywayWhining about things being better "back in the day" is the biggest indicator of a conservatard. This is especially egregious since animation is the best it's ever been right now.
>>150675508why do they shill their company and TV show on here every week? who would post this thread?
>>150679413>george droyd>howlingmutantLmao
>>150679503>he might have unfollowed all the wrongthink accounts recentlykek Zach deleted all of his previous tweets when Smiling Friends came out
>>150678665>You can not like it but it's fucking insane how you guys apparently don't understand why it's there and not NebraskaMaybe once anon moves out of his parent's house, pays their own bills, makes their own friends, buys their own media, *SNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNRT* Ha! Like that's ever gonna happen.>>150679349Artists are insane.
>>150676844No! No! There’s always some behind the scenes drama! I-I just can’t prove it. I AM NOT CRAZY
>>150675508>sleepycabin failed>yotta failedCan't wait to see the third failure.
>>150676071Their ties to Shadman rival what John K had done in his time
>>150675776it's the point of the studio since hadel used to collaborate with sargon. get ready for badass and awesome right wing animation
>>150680090The work on their website looks pretty mediocre, did they slap ZAM onto projects that Aron made? Not sure how this would "save" the animation industry other than them writing in their bio "everything sucks but what we're doing is awesome". Really cringy.
>>150676770Prolly funded the entire studio while Zach put his name at the front
>>150679586> This is especially egregious since animation is the best it's ever been right now.now thats funny
>>150680112>since hadel used to collaborate with sargon.Don't forget JonTron too
>>150675508Remember when he said he would never do lets plays or move to LA?
>>150680090But this time its sleepycabin in LA so it is even more expensive than what they did before.
>>150675756always wears the same clothes in every photo too
>>150679413watch as they use generative AI to make their cartoons lol
>>150679413>ai cartoon studiowatch out bored ape cartoon you have competition
>>150675508Thought he was leaving california?Is hadel honest about anything?
>>150680090>sleepycabin was just a podcast at the newgrounds office>yotta still exists
>>150680112>sargonWhen?
>>150680252Sleepycabin was meant to be an animation studio so calling it Newgrounds does not excuse the fact that they could not make it work.
>150679187(faggot)You are all niggers for taking this bait
>>150675508>LA-basedFor what purpose other than paying a ridiculous amount for everything and burning through capital like tissue paper?
>>150680252yotta's site hasnt been updated in years and most staff quit or are at other studios now
>>150675508This is the same Zach Hadel that told people not to move to LA?
>>150679187The far right INSISTS with those 12 principles of animation. It just ain't right.
>>150679810>reddit spaceKill yourself, tourist
>>150679187>"wouldn't cost a dime more to make"dont expect to be paid if you are working here
>>150680296Well, where else do you expect it to be? That's where they already work and live for God's sake
>>150675812Then oneyplays fans can say how hard he is winning because chris worked on their couch recently
>>150680345why does everyone else get called out for being LA shills but these guys get lengthy defenses for doing the same things?
>>150680369I can't help but think that Zach or Michael or the other faggot made this thread to announce their company. Who made make this thread?
>>150680101At some point you have to realize that form of cancel culture is over, and no one gives a shit about who's friends with Shadman.
>>150680345Ah yes. The great protective sanctuary of Hell-A, the Last City. The Walled Garden, beyond which is the smitten wasteland and the vast oceanless desert covering the entirety of the Earth. I forgot that Los Angeles is the only possible place where human beings can still inhabit after the Earth's secret second spectral moon slammed into the planet and the ghosts of those killed from the impact scourged all life outside of the city walls.
>>150675508I wonder how ZAMination feels about this
>>150680369Ever find it strange that hadel's NFT website got taken down while a thread was up about it? Or how he mentioned the schizoposter from the smiling friends threads in oneyplays videos?
>>150680385you mean shielding pedos? known pedos? pedos who were famous for being pedos? they were more than friends anon they used to feature him and would publicly defend him lol
>>150675508>AI animation studio
>>150680385Why did that officer cancel Shadman for trying to murder someone? We are past that point of cancel culture.
>>150680388I don't know why you're so upset, it's just the truth that LA is where the majority of jobs in the film and TV industry are located
>>150680469These retards used to make cartoons online. They are talking about cutting down costs on their website but they chose to be in LA.
>>150679081>Because it feels like there's been a lot of incidents of cartoon showrunners for Warner getting screwed over despite the successIt seems like people go to WB because they offer more creative freedom but there's always a con.
>>150680419oneyplays fans want you to forget they openly and actively platformed a nazi child pred who got kicked out of his home country for over a decade
>>150680473It's not like they really have any choice in the matter when that's where most of the jobs are
>>150675508>psychicpebbles becomes everything he claimed to hate
>>150680520They were not forced at gunpoint to start a company in one of the most expensive locations in the country.
>>150675508
>>150680543Where else could it have been when 1) Cusack and Hadel are already there and 2) New York and the Bay Area are even MORE expensive. You're being friggin' irrational
>>150680589>you can only animate in new york or los angelesRecent AS shows were animated in Georgia. They are not from LA and Michael is not even from this country.Theyve talked about moving somewhere cheaper in eps of oneyplays. Theres not a good reason for this but you seem personally bothered by anyone noticing the problem
>>150675508Are these mugshots?
>>150680577rip gremblo art show
>>150679586>merely referring to the past is right-wingbecause ed edd n eddy was real fucking conservative and overtly political
>>150680681why do you care if they are right wing or not
>>150680681yeah, it was. don't you remember when double D convinced the neighborhood kids to usher into the fourth reich, in an effort to get them to give up their quarters to fund the war effort?
What happened to Shmucks?
>>150675508Good for them hope Zack is OK after that thing with his niece
>>150680681It's not "merely referring to the past." Any declaration that the past was better is an obvious right-wing dogwhistle. Zach has literally pushed the Great Replacement Theory on his twitter before.
>>150680577>ZAM Studios presents Insane Critters 2
>>150680577Do you think he is embarrassed he did this?
>>150675515Is this why you made the thread?
>>150680723But what if the past was just better?
>>150680777go look at what he replaced the website with and you tell me
>>150680794I guess so
>>150680708Zach realized he can't carry a show by himself.
>>150680723Pebbles drew shoe0nhead's avatar and was a Twitter debater before he deleted his old tweets.
>>150679187>retard taking a marketing gimmick at face valueUnless he starts promoting rightwing think tank programming, its safe to say this studio is apolitical.
>>150680777Nah. He did it back when NFTs were new and it could still be excused for playing around with the new thing. The NFTs sold out and I'm sure he and Michael Cusack made a bunch of money that helped towards Smiling Friends.
>>150680850Honestly, I'm glad Zach left that shit behind.
I wonder if season 2's leaker will pop up here again. The release hours suuuuck for my timezone, wouldn't mind seeing it a day early.
>>150680862>he starts promoting rightwing think tank programmingIt may happen soon if >>150679413 is any indication
>>150680840so he cant get anything done without other people doing it for him?
>>150680850he spent more time arguing about white heritage than making cartoons
>>150680895Someone replied that he stopped following them and again from what i saw, it just look like a bunch of shitposting accounts.
>>150680900I mean you can view it that way. I was going along the idea that he needs someone to bounce ideas off of / edit him to make his writing more appealing.
>>150680900oneyplays is similar where you watch for the cohosts
>>150675515Hadel why are you making threads about yourself to shit on Oney?
>>150680922>Someone replied that he stopped following themYeah, to cover his ass from the she/her tumblr oneyplays fans who would try to pogrom him over it. Once SF ends I can see them taking conservative clients
>>150680577https://opensea.io/collection/insane-critters-by-zach-hadel-and-michaelHonestly they're kinda fun to look at and read the descriptions. All animated too. They put some effort into it at least.
>>150681267its cringe as fuck
>>150680911Stop talking shit
>>150681345>YOU NEED TO BE NICE TO ME RIGHT NOW!!!
>>150681361Sorry that i dislike your faggotry
Will Max Gilardi join?
>>150680296Schmooze access to replace the capital, duh
>>150681367dont care. hadel is a fucking hypocrite.
>>150681379More Groening Epstein parties for Pebbles.
dont the tomars own studio yotta
>>150677338https://deadline.com/2025/10/smiling-friends-team-zam-studios-animation-studio-1236570049/
>>150681542>the TomarsIs that what we're calling them now?
>>150678801Between Zach, Viv, Gooseworx, Chris, etc it seems like there is nothing- absolutely nothing in the world- that makes /co/ seethe more than seeing someone who is roughly their age, and has similar interests, and who grew up in a similar online environment, and who developed skills in art and animation BUT uses them to actually get ahead in life, instead of spending their time and talent on here drawing fetish smut for them for free. They see it as a betrayal.
>>150675508There's gonna be a shitload of nepotism with this company and I'm for it. Get the oneyplays and newgrounds people in there, I don't care.
>>150675515Chris lives in a McMansion in a gated community in Burbank. He's fine. Also, do you think they're going to jam this full of NewGrounds autists or just use slave labor like every other studio?
So will Yotam Perel join it or is he still pissing himself over Hamas
>>150682517why do you keep coming back to this thread to seethe about people criticizing your favorite ecelebs
>>150682517Gooseworx is a tranny though so that's different
>>150682561Starting to feel like "nepotism" has become a term that highly antisocial people use to describe any amount of networking or social mobility. People are more likely to trust (and hire!) people they know and have mutual respect for. That's how things have always worked. It's not always a case of someone getting big jobs just because they have a famous relative (like David Bowie's kid, or Max Landis, or Daniel Day-Lewis's son probably idk I haven't seen that movie he made yet)
>>150682717Networking IS nepotism, dummy. Your quantifiable skills are the only ones that matter.>b-bu-but i'm an aaaaartistThen you live on the handouts of the rich and powerful, for you are just a trained monkey and AI can do your job better.
>>150682717Nepotism also only involves relatives. The correct term in cronyism.
>>150682771>for you are just a trained monkey and AI can do your job better.ohhhh jej it's THIS fucking guy again. That explains it.
>>150682776Yeah, two different forms of favoritism. Can't be avoided completely honestly, nor is it totally bad for small businesses or studios, especially if the people are actually qualified. People naturally want to make things with friends and family.
>>150682717David Bowie's kid Duncan Jones gave us Moon and that was kino.
>>150682776>>150682921Technically cronyism is only bad when the person is unqualified for the role or chosen over more qualified candidates. The thing is, with creative projects like cartoons, you want to work with someone you know does work you like and you know that you can work well with them. So hiring your friends in the field makes total sense.
>>150682611Slave labor and Newgrounds tards that they'll turn into slave labor
>>150682771>le AI is artistically betternigger you’re either blind or have shit taste to the ai shit that gets posted here
>>150679187Can't wait for this chud studio to implode.
>>150678823So a bunch of bumsGod, even Kekeflipnote and Tony Grayson (Antonblast) can still make a living off of their stuff despite not being in LAYou guys are pathetic, keep drawing no matter how bad things get for you
>>150682517You're finally making some sense in this dumpPeople maybe should just try to keep on drawing, hang in there, and try to make a living for themselves rather than bitching about how someone roughly their age gains some success over them through their own work
>>150682645what are you trying to criticize here?, that they get ahead more than you for their own workstop calling yourself a critic if you only want their downfalland furthermore, maybe put some effort into your own art and try to make your own stuff rather than bitching that there's people that got success for doing the things they love
>>150682965yeah that was pretty good. Source Code was decent too. What's he up to no->Warcraft movie sent his career into the shadow realm>his Rogue Trooper movie that was supposed to come out this summer is nowhere in sight>all he does is post NAFO faggotry on social media now
>>150680336Stop living in my basement, Jeremy.
are they gonna pick up lyle's pilot
>>150685178Spindlehorse might now that he's writing for Helluva Boss
>>150675515oney probably would end up having a position just not as something that requires too much management, he doesn't seem to be that kind of person
>>150681262i really doubt that. Zach really advocates to keep politics out of media/cartoon and I really don't think he will turn around and start doing it himself.
>>150685920>Zach really advocates to keep politics out of media/cartoonMy man, Smiling Friends had an episode about the US president in Season 2. Don't you fucking gaslight me.
>>150685954he's a retard who thinks we're still in 2019people stopped falling for that bullshit
>>150685954>le "political episode" doesn't give a clear whose who on and whats right Are you actually retarded or some faggy baiter?
>>150685974What are you talking about retard?
>>150679586This is your brain when it's terminally online. Look at cartoons from the 90's and tell me they're animated worse than Teen Titans Go.
>>150675508>Los AngelisStill not fixing the biggest problem with animation, that it's trapped in one of the two most expensive cities in the most expensive state. I know that most professional animators want to live in LA but it's not sustainable.
digital circus is a bigger success than smiling friends and doesnt need a studio in LA
>>150686370Yeah because the same spergs that like that all jerk off over Helluva Boss.
>>150682517You seek to destroy all reward for supporting animation when you make it about masturbating that your clique has made it with that support. Get rid of that childish mentality or expect another decline.
Btw I’ve never mentioned this before, but I came up with the epic criticism of nihilists Smiling Friends is getting so much praise for before they did. Since people want to be nasty.I guess being a cartoonist who cares a lot about theology paid off for the community!
>>150675508yay! more studios producing shit cartoons with the most ugly art style known to man. at this point soviet limited animation cartoons are masterpieces compared to this garbage
>>150682561So we might get a stamper dub in the future ?
>>150677060An animation studio doesn’t just make animation. They need to shop their shows around to various networks and studios to get them picked up. If you’re doing that, you really need to be where those studios and networks are so you can take lunch meetings and coffee dates, etc.
>>150678823No, that would imply they’ve ever even tried. Most people wish they could be artists, but never actually go as far as trying to learn so they make up excuses like all artists are rich, or they have to be left wing, or they have to be a specific race/gender/etc. This is all to make excuses for their lack of passion, determination, and ability to work hard. It’s easier to blame some boogeyman than to actually try to be better.
>>150679079>Completely missing the pointTikTok has fried peoples’ comprehension abilities
>>150688327Also it's easier to set up shop were animators already live. Historically that was California (Disney, Warners, Lantz) and New York (Fleischer, Terrytoons)
>Niall joins the group>ZAMN Studios
>>150677044I mean I wonder how long life in hell could have possibly ran for. groening not wanting to give up the rights to it gave us the most successful animated show ever.
>>150676844zach is also the most well known of these guys. there's a reason he's always in the oneyplays comp thumbnails.
>>150675756He was in a car accident as a child
>>150678606your pitch will just get laughed at and rejected if you say your studio is based out of witchata kansas.
zach has a posse of goons that go through other AS employees computers/phones for evidence of pornography consumption, and they intimidate/stalk anyone they catch. he also has a private discord where they all mock immodestly dressed female employees. he's one sick twisted motherfucker.
>>150690621He also kicks puppies and throws sacks full of infants he kidnaps from orphanages into a nearby river.
>>150680101Hope they get Shad to make a show.
I keep seeing 11:30 PM everywhere for the release time, but what timezone is that supposed to be?
>>150691028Eastern Time
>>150680632It’s a new animation studio. They need to be able to pitch ideas to networks. Almost all of those networks are based in LA. It makes sense to live there so they don’t have to fly out there every fucking week to have coffee and lunches with people. A pitch meeting is one thing, but to get to the point that you can actually pitch takes a lot of fucking schmoozing. Zoom meetings don’t make the same impact. Anyone who has actually been through this process can tell you that.
>>150682717> Starting to feel like "nepotism" has become a term that highly antisocial people use to describe any amount of networking or social mobility.It always was on /co/. It’s annoying as fuck that anons can’t tell the difference.
>>150683080Both cronyism and nepotism are used *specifically* to describe when someone is unqualified and chosen over more qualified candidates.
>>150691051>5 amReally hoping that leaker didn't get found out then.
>>150675515Chris is the studio musician
>>150691343He's the tortured gibbon they feed slice ham to in a cage 3x too small for it.
>>150690621I heard this fucker actually went to church on Sunday once, I felt physically sick after hearing that.
>>150681267>>150680577I still don't know what NFTs are or how they work
>>150675508thought it was vinny vinesauce on the left in the thumbnail
>>150680777No, Zach is successful because whenever he misses he just buries it, leaves it behind and gets back to the grind. Not getting hung up with your past mistakes is really the only way to get anywhere, certain others from those spheres have forgotten what that is and cannot improve.
>>150690407>niall What did he even do?
>>150692166Moral support
>>150692166He graduated as a doctor or something
>Living vicariously through ecelebs