>>150675549
>how correlated do you think box office/views are to quality?
they have a correlation in aggregate, that is to say good movies tend to do better than bad ones at the box office
but like you said, exceptions are almost as common as the rule, making it useless when evaluating movies

gone with the wind is the highest grossing movie of all time, adjusted for inflation, but it was also in theatres for 20 years straight with very little competition
TF one had very poor marketing and by the time word of mouth spread around, the movie was already on its way out of theatres, movies with craploads of marketing make more money than ones without, all else equal

context also matters, adam sandler doesnt exactly make thought-provoking cinema, but his humor has wide appeal
so his movies are always solid money makers despite generally being panned
in this case, you can either appeal to elitism and say that the unwashed masses will like anything or just admit that quality is subjective

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>>150675549
>Atlantis the lost empire had a bad box office (and a bad rotten tomatoes score too), but i see lots of people love it
this is another case of subjectivity
the main complaint from critics is that even though the movie had pretty good animation, it felt too derivative of action-adventure movies and had pretty flat characters who only tended to get 1 or 2 scenes of characterization
they also didnt appreciate the darker tone, feeling like it was trying too hard to emulate action movies

whereas the people who grew up on atlantis tend to like the movie for exactly the same reasons a lot of contemporary critics disliked it
they saw "genre throwback to adventure movies" as a positive, not a negative, especially since a lot of these young kids didnt even know of an adventure movie other than indiana jones
the dark tone that critics didnt like was instead enjoyed, they found it a break from more kid-oriented movies they were used to
flat characters werent the same deal-breakers that they were with critics, a lot of the audience were more willing to accept a character who exists to provide flavor
the mole is one of the most popular characters in the movie despite being a one-note character that epitomizes the lack of depth that critics didnt like

and it is also worth pointing out that some critics did like it
roger ebert gave it a 3.5/4, and generally aligned more with the audience opinion that being an old-school action-adventure was actually a fresh change of pace

>>150675608
>by the time word of mouth spread around, the movie was already on its way out of theatres

i hate how quickly movies move out of theatres nowadays

The people who bitch about Atlantis just expected another sing song Disney movie.
Just imagine how their portfolio would look nowadays if they didn't burn their hands with this against Shrek.

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>>150675662
Well put and based at explaining things

>>150675693
I know bringing up Ne Zha 2 in the box office convo will seem like a joke, but the wide release English dub barely got a chance at all in American theatres. I saw the box office tracking for it stop after 3 weeks. It had a bad opening against the Kpop Demon Hunters singalong, then was practically done for. No chance for word of mouth to spread

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>>150675549
But
>Atlantis
had great box office!!!

Neat movie.