Agendaposting and powerscaling edition
first for 8est spider
second for unpublished fan adventures
>>150699947Remember, Davekeks.
>>150699998I think if john 8eat the shit out every character until they're normal, Homestuck would've been peak
honk :o)
>>1507000181500 pages of John and his retclones beating the ever loving shit out of Vriska.
>>150700036honk!
>>150700054You ever wonder if they had actually believed him he wouldn't have flipped out
>>150700036>>150700054nice to see you, honk friends
>>150699845Cultural import from powerlevel faggots and all other cultures directly relating to them (namely battle shonen like dragon ball and one piece and all the rest). An agenda in this context is, from my understanding, the promotion of the idea that X character is weak/strong and or weaker/stronger than another character, through the dissemination of memes. That's it. It's just memes making fun of how strong or weak a character is and/or poking fun at their character flaws, oftentimes in relation to another character. A slew of words that have gotten mixed up in the culture are utilized in these memes, such as "feat" and "fraud" and "job". I don't think those need explanation.
>>150699947
>>150700092deserved
>>150700111gamzee didn't have motives. he was 8eing controlled 8y LE
>>150700054he didnt needed to kill all that inocent trolls tho :(
>>150700130>controlled by LESo being controlled by himself?
>>150700130He was giving into the highblood urges to maim and subjugglate.
>>150700069Do I find it strange that even though Gamzee is my favourite troll, I really want to see a fanventure where Equius stopped being a horny retard and turned Gamzee into purple mist
>>150700147Last panel but with purple instead of blue... Would've been kino.
>>150700090Job actually might. Jobbing is basically when you could, or logically should, win a fight, but fumble and lose. An example is Gilgamesh in Fate/Stay Night, who is the strongest Non-Grand Servant in the entire Verse, but somehow manages to job the final fight of the VN's three routes every time, usually by not taking his opponent seriously enough to try, and once because he didn't bother checking if they were really dead when he let what little guard he had up down.
>>150700164NTA but I always thought that Jobbis was when a character is depicted as being reasonably powerful yet consistently loses fights, often to showcase just how strong another character is.
>>150700147i think there is one somewhere i seen. 8ut yeah Equius 8eing retarded there pissed me off majorly>>150700144and he was kinda 8ased for it t8h.>>150700141how much of LE really is Gamzee? 8ecause LEnglish just looks like a massive, 8uff Cali8orn. Does he have any personality elements from Gamzee and Dirk?
>>150700188>Jobbisfuck
>>150700161lmaaaaaaaao. i love them both but jesus this was funny....
>>150700184He does release the Vast Honk when he first emerges from Scratch. Dirk/AR manifests more prominently in Scratch I think.
>>150700214Jobbis Kayfeb, the /pw/ troll
>>150700245Wrestlekind would be a ballin strife specibus
>>150700275>foldingchairkind
>>150699947>el hermanoKEK
>>150700188It actually kinda depends, but that definition also largely applies. I suppose it's context senstive. Where Gilgamesh is an example of the "should be able to win" kind, Vegeta would be a good example of the other.
I NEED a larger version of this image, fucking hilarious
>>150698201consider the following: ellith, while not being the most fashion-forward, still likes the idea of incorporating the colors of her best friends
im so happy with my jade cosplay!!! everything is coming together and the skirt looks great :) i just need to iron on the space symbol to my leotard and bedazzle my shoes and i will be golden!! :D
>>150700114
>>150700417nice, hope you have fun at whatever con you're going to
>>150700399She's a huge Broncos fan
>>150700136>inocent trollsyou mean equius who sexually harassed him and nepeta who attempted to murder him?
I wish she'd give me traumatic brain injury...
>>15070048088
>>150700489>8oo8s 8ig enough to cause visi8le 8umps in shirthahahahahahahaha no
>>150700480lmaaaaaaouhhyes?
>>150700432thank you, i will!! it will be the first time ive ever gone to a con in cosplay! :)
>>150700090ah I see. wonder why it's called agenda though. just makes me think some kinda politic was involved
>>150700548It do be powerlevel politics, in a way.
>>150700526burgers for later
>>150700036>>150700054I would love to just chill with stoner gamzee and eat pie and talk about miracles
>>150700539sexual harassment and attempted murder isn't 'innocent' no matter how much it ruins your perception of heckin pure meowrails
>>150700576are they the irons in the fire she keeps talking a8out?
>>150700600they were relatively innocent (for trolls). 8ut then again culling low8loods is a part of troll culture
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>>150700616Irons (burgers) in the fire (bra), so many irons (burgers) in the fire (bra).
>>150700526Woman is flat as a brick.
>>150700284>now I'm mad
>>150700663Are these the irons in the fire a good Prince should have?
>>150700663We should start calling her burger bra for no particular reason
>>150700653Don't look at me, I'm reading along with the re-release and fighting the urge to read aheadI also post the summaries of each update as I read them
>>150700480>sexually harassed him it was 1 or 2 passes at best but sure I'll let you have this one>attempted to murder himtrying to kill someone who is killing everyone falls under self defense
>>150700717how far along is the rerelease right now anyway i haven't checked
>>150700731Just finished act 4 for real this time
>>150700437everyday she grows more based. how does she do it
>>150700726>self-defenseit's not self-defense if you're not 8eing attacked first
>>150700757we could've had this if hussie wasn't a hack. 8ut then again we got the dog penis so that's a silver-lining
>>150700465calm down mallum
>>150700757Why is Dave drawn like a 2000s gamer webcomic character
>>150700717Thanks 8ro
>>150700796He is a 2000s gamer webcomic character. Homestuck is a gamer webcomic released in 2009.
>>150700754>you have to wait until the school shooter kills all your classmates and THEN turns his gun on youno lmao any court would rule this self defense
>>1507007008urger 8ra...
Homestuck if it was good.Also my headcanon is Jade is built like Tatsumaki.
>>150700811pro8a8ly not. it's more vigilantism than anything
>>150699947All main JoJo villains parts 1 - 8 vs the Felt. who's winning.
>>150700847what a fatty lol
>>150700810You know what I mean
>>150700876doze clears all
>>150700876I dont even think they could win if they were competent
>>150700876Depends. End stage (Ultimate Kars, Bites the Dust, Made in Heaven, etc) or base forms?
>>150700876they don't have anything to kill Kars, so it's an easy win, unless Crowbar's crowbar can kill him.
>>150700877Fat with love
>>150700876Go read jojostuck on mspfa
>>150700876felt jobbed to jake
>>150700902If Endstage, does that mean non-Canon but created by Araki, like DIO Over Heaven?
>>150700876Eggs clears. no diff
>>150700212Juju powers make LE insane, and he's got the madness part of Gamzee sucked into him.As Doc, he's AR with a sense of ironic humor and penchant for reinforcing blood caste bullshit. The Gamzee in him is why hes subservient to LE in the first place. An ironic timeloop because the Equius inside Doc creates the conditions for Equius to be the way he is in the first place. Thats why Alternia is dogshit.
>>150700889every time I see I can't help 8ut remem8er how rapea8le and culla8le she is. in a cute way
>>150700964>>150700465New typing quirk dropped
>>150700876Depends on how fast Diavolo is on the uptake, because he's the only one who can stop them from drowning in a sea of Eggs.
>>150700923love this lil nigga so much it's unreal
>>150700964fucking bard of void.
>>150700996lol that was exactly what i was going for (i definitely wasn't trying to spell things using the spoiler thingy 8ut consistently fucked it up, many times 8efore)
>>150701009petition to send all bard players into the sun
>>150701097Now you have to deal with the same bard players but pissed off and on fire
>>150701097no don't do that. that'd just make us- i mean them way stronger
>>150700600man i just wanted nepeta and equius alive :/ its not that deep.
my god the only deleted posts itt here are MY posts. what do the jannies have against me? am i cursed? or am i simply too 8ased?
At what point did homestuck’s timeloops break down? Was it when the kids started complaining about forced destiny? Was it when vriska was used to explain why everything bad happened?
>>150700861no
>>150701248yeah it is. you're killing someone else for killing someone else. you're taking justice into your own hands (that's what vigilantism is 8tw)
I have to come up with an actual name for Medievalstuck so it sounds less corny.Discord Invite would be appropriately chaotic but not descriptive enough and Filtered is a little too niche. Need something a little more algorithmically deep fried for a fictional adventure game.
>>150701291I think Medievalstuck is actually a good, non-corny name for a fanventure
>>150701306Seconded
>>150701291Medievalstuck was a homestuck au already and an mspfa. You should find a new name
>>150701246It broke down at the very moment John made himself, which was what was intended I feelIt was very clear that from that point forward there was no line of narrative causality that would not be crossed and that we were in for unfiltered nonsense. Some of it was good! But it meant turning predestination up to 11
>>150701270big difference between being a vigilantee and putting down a THREAT. threats to you or people around you are self-defense and are innocent and legal. I don't make the rules, bub
>>150700754also wasn't equius literally seeking gamzee out and kill him by karkat's request? not that i think equius would have actually gone through with it, he told gamzee he just wanted to talk and i believe that, but it's karkat's fault for telling equius to go kill him, not gamzee's fault for responding to karkat's obvious threat. nepeta's role in all of it is weird, she seems to take no issue with karkat's order (as team leader) for equius to find and kill gamzee beyond equius potentially being harmed which is why she followed him secretly and tried to kill gamzee after he ended up killing equius instead
>>150701291Call it like Castletrapped or something
>>150701382>not gamzee's fault for responding to karkat's obvious threat.Didn't Gamzee say in no uncertain terms "I AM GOING TO KILL ALL OF YOU"?
>>150701376oh. nevermind then I guess
From a human standpoint wouldn't you cheer on Gamzee because he's killing off your alien overlords
>>150700480huh I don't remember the sexual harassment
>>150701413>alien overlords>nepeta and equiuslol
>>150701392yeah and equius said gamzee went crazy because he didn't have a good moirail. again not saying equius or nepeta deserved to die, it was karkat's fault for giving that order
>>150701413stoner gamzee > murderstuck gamzee desu but both are great
>>150701425they're more like alien gods i suppose
I think I've landed on Immanent DomainWe're going to abuse this dictionary tenderly
>>150701535call it Immanentstuck lol
>>150701270No, you just don't want to understand what self defense is because you're attached to the (bizarre) conclusion that Nepeta is evil.She doesn't even hurt Gamzee IIRC, he scratches his own face with her nails.>>150701382Nepeta's completely random "climb through the vents to die" demise was probably Hussie getting some catharsis on the fans after the 2011 Anime Expo Incident(s), plus just further trimming the troll cast because there were going to be more interactions than he wanted to write if he didn't. She was nothing but a meme character from the start, and she died a meme character's death.
>>150701585Frankly all the long chatlogs also pointed towards him avoiding drawing more
>>150701585I don't thin Nepeta is evil. In fact she's up there in my top 10 most fucka8le HS girls list pro8a8ly. I just like playing Devil's Advocate. Anyways, it's still not really self defense
>>150701585>the 2011 Anime Expo Incident(s)Elaboration?
gn
>>150701645>Anon is a cherubI knew it
>>150701623I think they're talking about when some Terezi cosplayer sat in the bathtub for 2 hours and tried to dye themselves gray or something
>>150701645night,
>>150701657>terezi fan is retard just like the characterkino
>>150701645Finally a way for us greenskins to self insert into the ass goblin.
>>150701657that same con is also where the spit bucket thing happenedone of the first big public exposures of Homestuck fandom and they INSTANTLY turned the whole thing into a lolcow by looking completely deranged
>>150701585>She doesn't even hurt Gamzee IIRC, he scratches his own face with her nails.nepeta is deadly, the fact she was springing toward gamzee with her claws open is attempted murder. yes you can say gamzee killing equius is wrong, because equius wanted to talk, but ultimately the whole tragedy was karkat's fault, and equius was already skeptical of karkat's judgement going into it but ironically did it because he wanted to keep nepeta safe
Nepeta will save beyond canon
>>150701687>i can fix him mentalitynah. she's just gonna get worse she's gonna get a cat penis
>>150701683stuff like that is what got 4chan banned from anime conventions
>>150701683>that same con is also where the spit bucket thing happenedI want you to tell everything you know about the video beyond the surface level
>>150701622Well, logically it can't be self-defense or vigilantism, because she didn't actually do jack shit to Gamzee besides... kinda fall on him sorta? If that's what her "intent to kill" looks like she was harmless to literally everyone no matter what situation they were in.It is very difficult to read that scene as a genuine murder attempt, and it baffles me that anyone tries to. Suppose it'd take a Gamzee fan to see it through such viole(n)t-colored glasses.
the homestuck rewrite we deserve
>>150701779gigatrvke
>>150701779>lord english save me this is living meowrails im up against
>>150701723man i ain't watching people spit in a bucket or looking for some deeper fucking context to iti just know they fuckin spat in a bucket and it weirded the shit out of normal people
>>150701505>equius said gamzee went crazy because he didn't have a good moirailMoiraillegiance is some made up troll bullshit. Gamzee did it because of a combination of sobriety, Dave's provocations, and Doc Scratch's manipulations.>>150701779Eh, Equius failing to kill Gamzee and protect Nepeta is a fundamental part of his character.
>>150701657That happened there? I was expecting to hear a story about a pack of Nepetas cosplayers violating a Karkat at a panel or some shit. Everyone knows the sharpie bath.
>>150701687I choose to believe that this will come to pass.
>>150701771>kinda fall on himthat's because gamzee broke her wrist lmao. before gamzee's spergout nepeta was the physically strongest troll, she even knocked equius on his ass, she just wasn't a bully like him or had mind powers like vriska
>>150701832hence why Nepeta should've done it for him, which would allow for Total Zahhak Development (which is based)
>>150701832A good moirail could have fixed that
>>150701832
>>150701839Nepeta was always among the most popular trolls to cosplay or make fanart of. In the arc of Homestuck history, Nepeta is alive for a shockingly short amount of real time if you were judging characters by fandom output.
>>150701645Holy kino...
>>150701645Goodnight. Nice drawing.
>>150701779based af, however>doomed timeline
>>150701880so we have both equius and nepeta, the CEOs of moiraillegiance agreeing it's karkat's job to pacify gamzee and it's fucked up to say to kill him instead
>>150701716what shit did 4chan do to get banned?
Alright /co/, what would (You) suggest for classpecting information?
moirail is such a fun concept, hey it's your job to keep this strong maniac retard sperg in line for the rest of your life, don't fuck it up
>>150701933does she pass the baby like a kidney stone
>>150701913>the roles will have to be dramatically reversedthis implies gamzee was karkat's moirail initially, not the other way around
>>150701861Except he does get a moirail that pacifies him. Karkat. It works in the short term but he's still the same newly shitty Gamzee and it ends up causing [S] Game Over. Same thing happened with Eridan, Feferi could have stayed his moirail but it would have fallen apart sooner or later when he made his advances on her.>>150701880I don't think we should be taking Troll Measurehead at his word when he says that certain castes are biologically more prone to killing. Seems like a lot of post hoc justification of the power structures on Alternia.>>150701913That they're the CEOs of moiraillegiance should give you pause as to whether moiraillegiance is even good or not. Don't forget that Equius fucks up and gets the both of them killed because he can't keep his masochismboner in his pants, seems their bond was not really that strong when push came to shove.>>150701951It is a very good social convention that goes a long way for worldbuilding but I think people buy too much into the idea that there's some inherent truth to it.
>>150699998People sleep on the fact that John can literally turn into the fucking air. He doesn't have any time- or space-hax (that can be weaponized) but in a straight fight he's pretty OP.
>>150701958she uses her space powers to teleport it out of she doesn't have to spray out an entire baby out her radioactive dog penis
>>150701958She gives birth to it through her birth canal. Do you not know basic biology?
>>150701968>Don't forget that Equius fucks up and gets the both of them killedequius didn't fuck up, nepeta is the one who snuck out and betrayed what her moirail told her to do. equius didn't even have a weapon and wasn't really planning on fighting gamzee. also telling equius to kill gamzee is not karkat "pacifying him," and this order took place way after gamzee talked to karkat post-spergout. karkat shooshpapped way too late
Birth anal
>>150701995"cooter" is more metaphorical 8ecause of the existence of a dog penis. that, or she has 8oth, which i find unlikely.
>>150701985He can retcon you out of reality so he never has to fight you in the first place, but yeah, even in a no bullshit throwdown, nobody beats an Egbert man.
>>150702003i'd like to add it's not the concept of moiraillegiance that's faulty, it was karkat's failure to empathize with his moirail's mental breakdown instead of resorting to aggression ironically
>>150701951Nah, it's just retarded, like the quadrant system always was. Absolute crack for proto-tumblr shippers, though.
>>150702024three davesthree daughtersthree days overdueand one radioactive dog penis
>>150702032I still dont understand it. I don't think I ever will.
>>150702024
>>150702003>equius didn't fuck up, nepeta is the one who snuck out and betrayed what her moirail told her to do.If she had listened to him, then he would have died anyways and she'd probably be picked off eventually.>and this order took place way after gamzee talked to karkat post-spergout. karkat shooshpapped way too lateMy point was after Gamzee had resolved to embrace Lord English and his place as his servant, there's no amount of pacifying that could have dissuaded him from that path. He was fully committed to it. Could he have possibly prevented the murders of Equius and Nepeta? Maybe? But I still think he would have done all his evil clown shit that helped lead up to [S] Game Over, and he definitely would have helped Caliborn.
>>150701968the concept of romantic relationships inherently isn't good because it usually fails, so true
>>150701949this official description for each aspect here http://hs.hiveswap.com/ezodiac/aboutsignclasses.phpalong with this extensive fan analysis by ouroboros here https://ouroboros.cafe/articles/Treatise_on_Classpecting.pdfand additional theorizing by an anon here https://pastebin.com/v2cnY6th
>>150702062man this ecto8iology shit is crazyanyways hard, intense, EXTREMELY NON-CONSENSUAL cuddling, followed 8y >rape
>>150702078>My point was after Gamzee had resolved to embrace Lord English and his place as his servant, there's no amount of pacifying that could have dissuaded him from that path
>>150702101>ecto8iology you wish
>>150702101>rape rape rape rapecan we get a moirail in here?
>>150701000>YOU HATE TIME TRAVEL, YOU HATE TIME TRAVEL, YOU HATE TIME TRAVEL, YOU HATE TIME TRAVEL, YOU HATE TIME TRAVEL
>>150702117it's canon. it happened. em8race the dog penis
>>150702129>it's canonSource?
>>150702003>nepeta is the one who snuck out and betrayedi still can't believe people years later don't see this for the simple cast downsizing that it actually was - she was a cat girl zodiac troll with the leo sign. literally just there to fill a slot, zero depth beyond that, and only able to add depth to other characters by dying.i swear homestuck fans are uniquely capable of self-delusion in fan theories, i've never seen any other fandom that comes anywhere close to having no capacity to consider doylist perspectives.if they were sherlock fans they'd probably take watson as some kind of historical figure writing under the doyle pen-name>>150702111lmao, literally as i was typing this
>>150702121the only moiraillegience I need is one between my penis, and a female/low8lood (non-consensually)
>>150701951I love the concept so much. media needs more strong platonic bonds
>>150702062
>>150702142>he doesn't knowif you don't know the source, then i pray you remain innocent
>>150702185>dave and his ecto8iological hy8rid children.jpgcute
>>150702111Wouldn't your argument be more Watsonian than mine? Gamzee had to kill Nepeta and Equius to establish himself as a villain and as part of the ensemble of Lord English affiliated antagonists. If Karkat went on a moirailing 101 crash course and had a frame perfect shooshpap no glitch speedrun then none of that would have happened.
>>150702170nah, it's retardedthere's no one coming to tard wrangle you and coddle you for the rest of your life, anonno society will ever exist that makes dealing with you mandatory for some innocent bystander you wish to impose your autism upon
>>150702190>no sourceNot canon then.
>>150701000>>150702124If HB was allowed to have screentime outside the intermission, and not die for cheap shock value, how would the dynamics between the agents in the B1 and B2 sessions play out?
homosuck
>>150702213nah because i'm not talking about the logic of the homestuck universe and how LE was built assuming hussie planned every step forward, i'm talking about the characters and their motivations as if they're decisions made off the cuff and not treating hussie's logic of right and wrong as if it's true
>>150702239I want to 'homosuck' Jake English
>>150702220the Epliogues (Canon sequel made 8y and endorsed by the original author (Hussie)) and HS^2/BC (Endorsed by the Hussmeister). It's canon. Now stop coping. Jade will never be able to give birth without some shenanigans of a sci-fi or Space variety
>>150702250i feel like a lot of what gives homestuck its unique flavor is the perverse pleasure of scapegoating, like kicking someone when they're down and then gloating about it, so i start to understand why vriska instead of eridan or gamzee (social outcasts) was brought back and treated as if she should've been one of the meteor crew the whole time
>>150702217nah. I like homestuck and classpects, and lands, and protyping, and quadrants and I will continue to enjoy fictional concepts in fiction
>>150702250>i'm not talking about the logic of the homestuck universe>entire argument rests on the logic of the homestuck universe and just calls it "decisions made off the cuff" to deflect it clumsily to the author without considering the author at allthis is precisely the shit i'm talking about with >>150702146
>>150702263>Canon sequelSource? There's nothing on the homestuck website called "the epilogues" or "HS^2"
>>150702274>fictionnah. when i 8ecome king of Earth I'm making it mandatory to have all quadrants filled under the threat of death
Post ship and song, I'll starthttps://youtu.be/F_X3qKVZrWU?si=zy5MviyfxBtLVaer
>>150702250Have I been mistaken this entire time, because I'm pretty sure the first thing is Doylist and the second is Watsonian.
>>150702293>>entire argument rests on the logic of the homestuck universei don't think the concept of moiraillegiance is "the logic of the homestuck universe," it's just describing your closest friend you trust to keep you in check. i never said i disagreed with the point that equius was wrong about blood color either, he was
>>150702217That's a really stupid way to look at it, a moirail is a mutualistic relationship between a killing machine pyscho and some weaker cool headed fag to keep said psycho in line so he protects you and don't get killed by a meaner psycho. It's a evolutionary benefit.
>>150702274nigga the only thing i called retarded was moirailsthat's not even a "platonic bond" in the setting itself, it's externally mandated tard wranglinglike a case worker for a non-functional autist, except EVERYONE has to both be and have one
>>150702302but the condence only needed you to fill 2 types of buckets....
>>150702314basically when i talk about homestuck, i'm not operating within the logic of the worldbuilding or chronology of the story, that's doylist, so i'm not looking for explanations of "but he had to have done that or else he wouldn't have become part of LE" etc
>>150702350and that's why she jobbed to like 4 kids. i'm not making the same mistake
>>150702334It's a cultural convention that is necessary because Alternia is a violent empire that churns out trained killers. It's basically like if special forces guys had a government provided social worker hovering around them 24/7 so they don't go booming their wife and kids.>>150702351Oh, I think I mistook why you were using that image then.
>>150702320>i don't think the concept of [word and concept this setting literally made up as part of the alienness of a society] is "the logic of [the setting that made the fucking concept up]i don't know what to say to this lack of comprehension, honestly....did you think moirails were a real thing, anon?
>>150702320ok i can kinda understand why anons think i'm saying moiraillegiance is some sort of moral imperative rather than just a metaphor for a good friend. i was talking about it divorced from the story, i think the blood caste shit is retarded, equius was obviously wrong in his assessment that gamzee was only violent because of his blood color, but he wasn't wrong that what he needed was an empathetic friend (karkat), not to be hunted down
>>150700429to the untrained eye, this is just a picture insinuating pregnancy, but I know better, someone architected Jade
>>150702380>>150702372
Anons, anons, you've all got to understand something about Homestuck fans:You can't save them. They can't save themselves. It's too late.
>>150702300it's right here.
>>150702349I'm aware of your point. like I said, I disagree and like moirails. I will continue to enjoy fictional materialdunno why you need fiction to be just like real life so much but if anything I see it more like mutualism in nature. agree to disagree
>>150702366I-I don't wanna rail my pail
>>150702372i mean my logic with moiraillegiance is that it's describing something in an alien way that is obviously analogous to human experience, convinced that they're different because of social taboo, like "matesprit" being just romantic relationships etc. i'm not interested in troll society, "blood caste" or anything like that, they're just humans with horns who don't get pregnant to me. and yeah i do think it was karkat's responsibility, not only as leader of their group but as gamzee's "best friend" as he said to pacify gamzee, not because of any blood caste bullshit
>>150702446get 8ack to pale pail railing now or YOU'RE FIRED
>>150702302will we have state assigned matesprites?
>>150702523no, and if you don't find one, you get culled, retard
how equius haters respond to this without sounding mad?
>>150702523>assignedhaha no. you have to find your own. since it's a matter of life and death, surely there'll 8e *someone* who's willing to go flushed with you
>>150702380I think, even with looking at this through allegory, wouldn't Gamzee's intentions still be malicious rather than the result of an honest mental breakdown? He was specifically engineering Vriska's social ostracizing (and killing if we get back to the literal) by feeding Terezi lies, that does not read to me like the actions of someone lashing out randomly, that reads like a deliberately bad actor. Which is why I mentioned Gamzee's actions after the shooshpapping because it doesn't read as Karkat calming his friend down when it was too late, it reads as Gamzee biding his time to continue hurting people later. And it only happens AFTER Kanaya confronts him, ie he realizes he's on the back foot.
>>150702422>you now remember Homestuck 2.0
>>150702532then I will not be supporting the neo-alternian regime
>>150702078also doylist viewpoint doesn't mean not also acknowledging the inner logic of characters, that's just being a stick in the mud, you could explain literally every single writing decision with "uh because the author WANTED TO, DUH". it can both be a simple cast downsizing and you can acknowledge the line of logic because usually they go in tandem
>>150702565Think about it this means other people will be desperate for a moirail. Meaning they will be more receptive especially around pailing season
>>150702534>Equius hatersno such thing, he is a saint, even if he's odd.
>>150700876Felt because Clover hax. Kars gets cucked by Cans
>>150702545You've got to keep in mind what Gamzee defenders are trying to defend is him murdering multiple people in a spergout. These are not rational individuals you are speaking to, these are people who wish for a system (moirails) that they can blame for failing to avoid the consequences of their own spergouts, because they have no personal responsibility and no self control.You're wasting your time.
>>150702588I've seen many people saying he is "abusive"
>>150702588>installs protocols to force aradia to love himHey at least he didnt try harder
>>150702534i like equius and he was a good friend and moirail, vriska is bad news and hurts everyone around her>>150702545wasn't this after vriska killed tavros? sorry i haven't read hs in years. but from what i remember gamzee didn't have to socially ostracize vriska, she was pretty popular even after maiming like half the cast, she even got off with merely a punch from kanaya after killing tavros
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>>150702598> system (moirails) that they can blame for failing to avoid the consequences of their own spergoutsno, i'm saying that at the point of karkat telling equius to murder gamzee he hadn't killed anyone yet and had specifically reached out to karkat to get him to care. kind of like vriska goading kanaya to stop her from doing bad things. except the difference is vriska had already killed 2 people at that point and nobody called for anyone to immediately murder her. vriska's moirail also bent space and time to redeem her for no reason other than that the personality that killed and/or maimed several innocent people was apparently the best. i'm merely pointing out the story's unevenness
>>150702623that image makes me feel so damn sad...
>>150702623>it will never be 2012 again
>>150699947>>150699998You're the Serketfag on this board that's really into Homestuck agendaposting and every time I see you I just think of an alt timeline where Hussie never caved into the romance slop and most of the fandom's humor would look like shit like this
>>150702613Vriska had killed Tavros, yeah, but there's not really any reason to believe she'd go sniping random people after that. Say what you will about her, but when it comes to her friend circle of 12, she only really did shit to people as a result of the revenge cycle from initial maiming of Tavros. Not justifying it, but it's pretty maintained violence as opposed to Gamzee's random murder.
>>150702311for the ship? here, have a whole ass playlisthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDpwh0pCXDwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm7zT-Wbk0Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdQkAhHlvC0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwO_70uf0AUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggCkN3Sve9w
>>150702534equius keeps nepeta safe. nepeta keeps equius saneperfect meworails
>>150702643Minorly related to the unevenness, but I've never been fully convinced Nepeta was really trying to kill him. I don't think she was actually capable of it in the first place.Gamzee does not feel truly in danger to me the whole time, but maybe that's just me.
>dave!!! how come your team isnt scoring??? :/>shut up>wow the red and black team just scored again!!! your team is down 0-6 dave! are they still gonna win? :B>shut the fuck up
>>150702683Thats great because karkat thought basically everyone but sollux who was involved in that cycle was dead. So good point i guess
>>150702712Nepeta killed tons of stuff just to survive. She has claws and a dead moirail to piss her off
>>150702688Based, thank you.
>>150702623all the whiteboard doodles send me
>>150702311https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02W8DAnKvlA
>>150702732Like what? Flies? A few rodents? Her skills clearly didn't translate to murder. The only injuries Gamzee gets are from clawing his own face with her claws like he's planting evidence or something.I just don't buy it.
>>150702683idk where to start with this one but vriska had a long track record of violence whereas gamzee hadn't before killing equius, it was much more expected of her to murder any random person because she'd already killed aradia and tavros and was known to be dangerous, nepeta was scared of her>>150702712>Gamzee does not feel truly in danger to me the whole timenepeta considered gamzee harmless and laughable lol
>>150702739hell yeah, brother. threads should swap tracks more often
>>150702311I don't wanna hear SHIT about my taste, okay?https://youtu.be/usS97GfH5J8?si=XFnWDiSTMffkRVQz
>>150702763t minus 10 seconds before dave gets shmeared into the ground for knocking his hat off
>>150702712also talk about killing someone who wasn't a true danger. put some respect on nepeta's name but tavros was objectively harmless and vriska goaded him into humiliating himself (standing up to her) so she could have an excuse to kill him
>>150702786>lovejoyI thought this band imploded when that youtuber got canceled
>>150702688>second songgood shit
>>150702778He got her to claw his face. He was in control but I don’t buy she did not intend to kill him. She had done plenty of fighting in the session all the trolls did. I do think even if he wasn’t in full control of the fight she would have been caught out by his bullshit immortality. (Although i dont think that was established in the comic then)
>>150702311https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxl2r6GuL2w
>>150702792Do you think in canon he glued it to his bald head or do you think it’s just really well secured?
>>150702717morre
>>150702827he has it strapped to the tightest possible setting and its cutting the blood supply off to his brain and makes him want to beat children and thats why hes evil not bcs of lil cal
>>150702311https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBVEie8bNdE
>>150702792now I need to make an edit of anon's edit >>150699998
>>150702840So does he have a gamer dent (but for hats)?
>>150702607aradia tearing her roboheart out in rage, beating his ass and then kissing him was hot as fuck id do it too
>>150702840the homestuk writer we need
>>150702795the tavros humiliation ritualS were kind of fucked up in retrospect
>>150702767One morehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy3O9N479i8
>>150702849Hate that ship, but I gotta commend you, that tune lines up fucking amazingly, and it's pretty good to boot.
>>150702903very nice, thanks for sharing.
>>150702311I doub anyone can find a tune that pair up well with this one.
>>150700717based. Holy shit I forgot how good descend is.
>>150702972okay now THIS is a crackship
>>150702780That just reads to me as her laughing textually the way she normally does, and not believing she's in any danger - not necessarily that she doesn't believe Gamzee CAN be dangerous, but that she hasn't been convinced that he's become so. I think she pounced still unconvinced, and probably only realized she was in danger as she died.I cannot stress enough that she doesn't even scratch him herself. She just jumps on him, he scratches himself with her claws while she is still alive by simply overpowering her arm, and he then proceeds to beat her to death offscreen.Does that really seem like a troll who was in any danger to you?
>>150702993Lord English could be the ship's name if he wasn't already called that
>>150702717This is why he killed himself
My favorite part of homestuck is the dialogue, which is why I dont give a shit about most alt endings. "ooh muh right things happen" who cares if the characters dont sound right. What fancomics or alternative endings mimic hussies writing style the best?
>>150703023Prequel
>>150703023fucking none of them, dude.
>>150702994There is of course also the factnthat Nepeta's quirk can border on illegible and makes her basically impossible to take seriously. The story never takes her seriously, either - the closest thing to an impact she ever has on the story with her actions is getting (literally) clowned on to death.
>>150702972how the FUCK does one come up with this
>>150702994>I think she pounced still unconvincedshe had just seen and heard gamzee murder equius, so i don't think she was unconvinced lmao. she pounced with the intention to attack, if not kill him with both her claws and fangs bared and was shocked at his strength when he broke her wrist. she then raised her other hand to defend herself in fear and he clubbed her to death. she thought she was strong enough to kill gamzee (because she'd never seen proof otherwise, gamzee didn't even kill imps) and was wrong
>>150703023John Ruins a Wedding probably has the best ratio of numbers of characters and success at writing in their voices.If you're talking about alt endings that fail to capture those voices, I assume you mean CSAU. I have to agree, all the characters talk the exact same, I think the author was ESL though so that might explain it.
>>150702993>>150703060Not THAT much of a crack ship when you think about it, since he's basically 25% Caliborn 25% Dirk's angsty teenage AI clone.
>>150702849If I may add to this pairinghttps://youtu.be/hAaJGdPWHDo?si=9OfO2kWAbWTnelaZ
>>150702813He didn't get her to claw his face. He drags her claws across his own face while gripping her arm, completely overriding any arm strength she might have. She does not injure him herself at all.
>>150703060>go to a randomizer site>add the names of every non-carapacian/felt character>randomize twice>ship
>>150703093Exactly my point to how she never had control. Capability =/= intent.
>>150702311https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH91cwQnVMk
>>150703074caliborn as the deuteragonist is so fun
>>150702311https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAP9nsUGY_8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zkXC5BF-nGo
>>150702311https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPIinJ88jTE
>>150703064Why the hell was she in the vent again?Anyway, the whole pouncing thing is just another cat meme. Attack, sure, but kill? With that fucking face and claws that look likr they'd snap at a stiff breeze? I think she probably wanted to hurt him, but I still don't think his life would've been in danger if he'd let go of her hand and he didn't have bullshit plot armor (barring a still very possible accidental murder). Now, of course, that wasn't going to happen because of stuff that is established much later and probably wasn't even something Hussie had thought of when that was released, but that's Homestuck. So it goes.
>>150702717jade annoying dave is my favorite genre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQF0z7xTz60
>>150703206Same I love it when shoves her sweaty bush in his face to harass him haha
>>150703189Literally told by Equius to hide in there from Gamzee/Eridan on their rampage.
>>150703206Haha yes when I saw her shaving her legs and getting her leg hair all over his face I came
>>150703189>Why the hell was she in the vent again?she was sneaking out to make sure equius stayed safeyou can speculate and we'll never know, but to me it looks like she intended to kill gamzee as retribution for him killing equius, which was literally the worst outcome possible for her and what she hoped to avoid by spying. she looked as serious as serious could be, with lots of experience in killing
>>150702311https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNFSaDfYSsY
>>150703226equius didn't tell her to hide in the vent, he told her to stay behind and not follow him and she disobeyed because she didn't want him to get hurt but also because she was curious
>>150703245They should've never given you niggers Homestuck.
>>150703148Holy Kino...
>>150702311https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26jj4pNhxO0
>>150703256>Curiousity killed the cat.Bravo, Hussie.
>>150703256he ordered her to hide but wasn't too specific
>>150703148>All I want is some time for myself>You're always trying to be somebody else>But you never cared for me>Why don't you let me be free?I fvcking kneel
>>150703301oh, my god
>>150703238I get that read of it.I personally never saw her LARPing as a cat hunting for kills as something that was anything but a LARP like the rest of her entire schtick, so I suppose the idea of her as an actual killing machine (and not simply a child who aspires to be like an alien animal killing machine by dressing up as it) was also something I was never fully convinced of by what little effort is spent characterizing her.If you buy into that first, thinking she's going to try to kill Gamzee could make more sense.
>>150703318Anon, LARP or not she's ultimately still a troll and was living out in the wild inside a cave.She didn't order the blood to paint her wall on Troll-Amazon, doesn't mean she was a powerhouse, but she still went out hunting the local fauna with her Lusus.
>>150703305
>>150702311(YOU) X Your Fav characterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32faUlvDxCw
>>150702534i keep getting feels from this pic
>>150703349Killing animals to survive =/= could murder a fellow troll, even when upset. Despite not buying either, really, I can buy "murderous rage" more than I can buy the "Nepeta could totally murderhobo" throughline here.She's a lonely hermit who kills animals out of necessity. That does not have much bearing on her willingness to kill fellow trolls.
Just caught up with Homestuck 2. Are they really, seriously trying to salvage this shit?
>>150703446Apparently yes there is a whole team of people who will gladly take up that steaming, fetid mantle. Like what the woman leading the pilot wanted but way worse
>>150703446Yes, and dipshit teenage posters here insist it's worth salvaging.
>>150703446Yes. But I'm not sure where you can go from "omnipotent gods" that doesn't make everything look like a rerun of the Greek pantheon.
he was kind of cool in his own way but the shipping ruined it
>>150702311 You'll have to forgive me, i couldn't get a better image. https://youtu.be/iYiLF-c6wHM?si=6on90MCH9dYRkFUShttps://youtu.be/xv8tICN8M7w?si=x5zEyVGTj_JJKH1k
>>150703471Somewhere else entirely
>>150703474like idk, he's one of many characters hussie makes as scapegoats, and people think that a character being a scapegoat means they can't have depth, but they obviously all do. not only was he created to make fun of a type of sjw hussie didn't like but his in-universe problems are never addressed because him not wanting to be coddled is apparently proof he needs to be coddled even more, which is the type of victim-blaming paradox homestuck thrives on. i think the meanness of it is entertaining, but ultimately it's still mean
>>150703490Somewhere....Beyond.
>>150703491and yeah tavros's death is proof that even if a scapegoat does "toughen up" and "rise to the occasion", they're still ultimately proven wrong by eternal bullies anyway. but don't mind me i haven't read this in years, just thinkinng
>>150703503so really if the nice ones like tavros/damara/kankri/gamzee get picked on after being constantly prodded to be more violent than they actually are, what choice is there within homestuck but to become a villain? there really is none because it's either be a villain or a bully (hero)
>>150703474Kankri Just works, not just as a parody but a character as a whole, his flaws are his pros.Vantas' in a nutshell are Perfect guys
>>150703512homestuck is kind of inconsistent when it comes to this stuff too, like aradia escaping the narrative could be seen as the third choice. it was a pretty liberating moment contrasting vriska's death, but of course that had to be "fixed"
>>150703523i can't decide if the sjw who cried wolf or just watered down karkat who's misogynist but i'm choosing to remember the former aspect of his character
Quirked up Mexican gets to rizz up the Black Queen.
>>150703523>picrelnever known i needed something yadda yadda
>>150703556
homestuck in a nutshell
>>150703574This is the alternian equivalent of a cute 4 foot 11 girl mounting you and smacking your face lightly
>>150700188What you were thinking of is called Worfing after Worf from Star Trek TNG.He was a Klingon (Warrior Race) and the ships head of security, and because of that whenever the show needed to let the audience know that a problem couldn't be solved by physical force alone they would have the problem kick Worf's ass. And since the show was mainly high concept scifi stuff that happened often.
>>150703206
>>150703588Oh my god dave can you play in the snow for 5 minutes
>>150703219fire
>>150703588God they're so cute
>Aranea's plan is the most amoral, self-important power grab imaginable. She wants to replace reality with a version where she's on top.As opposed to Terezi and Vriska, who are heroes and want to do that exact same thing
>>150703245ships that would get you cancelled today
>>150703512>>150703529Your options are to be a bully (Hero)Be a weakling (supporting character)Be a weakling who embrace violence to try and get ahead (Joke)Be a blind force of violence (villain)Be the tool of the narrative you were born to be (Hero)Be the tool of the narrative you were born to be (Villain)
>>150703615Terezi only does it in shitpost though
>>150702311https://youtu.be/VyFffu4a0GU?si=lWWw5wCiL4RZ59bu
>>150703638For some reason i thought it said white power...I should go to sleep soon, it's getting late
>>150703512>nice ones>Gamzeethis ain't it, chief
>>150703651now i'm thinking which pairing would be in the KKK...
>>150703655i mean until murderstuck of course, even tavros, karkat, kanaya, nepeta and feferi get murderous there
>>150703365being dirk's meowrail...
>>150703588Oh right I forgot these two had chemistry
>>150703529literally nothing about it is consistent ever, except that its lows are consistently VERY lowtrying to look for deeper meaning in lolrandumb humor with a decent production budget was folly 15 years ago and it's folly today.
>>150703471>rerun of the Greek pantheonthis is an excellent direction for a story however
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RR-21ulMT2w
>>150703476surprised vriska x (vriska) wasn't more of a thing now that you mention it
>>150702311https://youtu.be/7eH554l3g4s?si=m7i_FOwO4LVxPW2c
>>150700998>Depends on how fast Diavolo is on the uptakeah, they're fucked then
Just finished act 1 of hs2 for the first time and this might be the single most disturbing image in the entire franchise.
>>150703690Con Heir is so fucking good holy shit 8EST SHIP 8EST SHIP
>>150703491he's vapid, mundane, verbose and pretentious, as he is based off annoying sjws. I don't recall the writing implying he needs coddling, I think the fandom just likes to imagine him as a petulant tsundere to shit like wearing porrim's sweaterkarkat does mention to terezi that he finds every single dancestor to be a douche canoe
>>150703729HS2 is generally disturbing
>>150703729what the actual fuck is this
>>150703651rest well, anon
>>150703765Taxidermied dave i think.
>>150702311Not sorry for this imagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ45bHZd8Tw
>>150703729Dave after getting his soul sucked out by Obama.
>>150701779Imagine if they go this route in the cartoon
>>150703796Thanks, Obama.
>>150699947>Baldkat>Not KarkalvoIt was right there. It was right. fucking. there and you ruined it. Also where the fuck is Jigsaw on this shit tierlist?
>>150703711>gamzee x eridaninteresting
>>150702311https://youtu.be/cpjY_xQ0QXA?si=7Hx2gurNCT4KWioY
>>150703782who is the left chick
>>150703796i really never want to see this again
>>150703775>Taxidermied daveWHAT
>>150703707they would make for perfect Kismeses Kismesi? i forget, it's late if (vriska) had a bit more of a spine...
>>150703805holy shit you're right
>>150703823Lolcow's Elsie but as a Homestuck kid It's a website my gf always rambles to me about since her friends hate her for gossiping about her attics. It's basically a woman's 4chan
