once ultimate ends i'm quitting comics. these are the last books I was somewhat interested in and keeping up with. oh well
You just know they’re going to dumpa few of the characters in 616, where they will be in quickly forgotten
>>150725389Anon you shouldn't be reading these comics to begin with, these companies need to go out of business.
>>150725389You should have quit when you were only way behind.New Ultimate has been terrible.
>>150725389I have been in and out of comics all of my life, I think that's pretty normal. If you feel like right now there isn't anything on offer for you, absolutely go ahead, but who knows, you might find yourself interested again in a decade when someone else does something interesting.Have you tried the absolute line? They're in it for the long haul, and are quite good.
>>150725389What's the appeal of these books again? Other than throwing spiderfags a bone?
>>150726071>What's the appeal of these books again?starting fresh. maker shit has been somewhat intriguing at least at the start
>>150726071Make people realize that MJ and Peter being married and having kids loses its luster after awhile
>>150725389>The schizo is pretending he reads comics.You can't even read English!
>>150726097Because it's an ending, not a beginning. Peter should have gone through his trials and tribulations, then settled down.
>>150726097What people want, and maybe they're not good at articulating this because it goes against the assumptions of genre, is the Peter and MJ that has been canon for decades to swing off into the sunset happy and married and be a definitive end to that story.They should do this, and then just create an actual new mainline continuity, they have run this version of the character to its limit, but they won't because it still sells so well.
>>150726071It's a universe untouched by Bendis, Slott, Aaron, and etc.
>>150726266>untouched by Bendis
>>150726167Doing things the DC way is a pain in the ass though.
>>150726167>life ends the moment you get marriedto be fair this is a trope throughout most pure romantic fiction not just action/adventure/sci-fi/fantasy that happens to have romance, but it's always been dumbwas Kraven's Last Hunt boring to you? did you drop Fantastic Four in fucking 1965 before even getting to The Coming of Galactus?
>>150726167>>150726434The truth of the matter is thisThe reason that the MJ romance feels lackluster comapired to the other is because while Stan and the Fans have wanted it, nobody working on the Spider-Books (besides Stan) with any real guiding capacity over the book has ever liked it and so have tried to drag the relationship down. Which makes the enduring love for it stand out even more.Its an unironic "A Real Pater and MJ Romance run has never been tried" situation where you would need everyone against it in editorial to be ousted and/or kept away from the Spider-Books and then give a good writer who is legitimately into it at least 24 issues where they are already married at the start to sell it.If the dynamic just doesn't work under those conditions then it doesn't work, but until we get something close to that I honestly believe it can work.
>>150726434FF can't maintain an ongoing in modern times. Last hunt is over 40 years ago.
>>150726562The standards for an ongoing have changed in recent decades.Now if your run can last past issue 12, the book is viable for modern comics.The recent FF run lasted 33 and ran immediately into a relaunch.I know its a far cry from the days were even a c-lister could get 50 issues but in proportion its holding up.
the only books i read are absolute and ultimate and even then i only read some of them.
>>150726313It got touched by Ziglar but Bendis have no involvement so far.
>>150726645Fantastic Four is a book that has broad sci fi pulp stories, the characters marriage can take the backseat to traveling the negative zone or fighting off aliens. Spider-man is a relatively grounded street character who's books are primarily about him navigating his social life responsibilities while trying to be a superhero, they just are fundementally different set ups.
>>150725389Absolute DC mogs ultimate marvel hard. You are doing a disservice to yourself by not reading absolute batman or absolute martian man hunter atleast
>>150726953This. The marriage and Momoko's art are honestly the only thing keeping Ultimate relevant.
>>150726766Firstly your moving goalposts but to engage with your point why does being a street-level book preclude Spider-Man from romance?You can just as easily have storylines where Peter fights off Kingpin or Doc-Ock and then have him come home to MJ since not every story of a married man needs to be about the couple.
Nothing is good anymore.
>>150725389>Still reading NuSpiderslop>He hasn't been reading Absolute DCCome on guys.... You're missing out on the greatest revamp of comings in OUR time.
>>150725389The latest issue was a whole bunch of people just talking
>>150725389OK, loser
>>150725389Lmao ok?
>>150726953>babby's first psychedelic comic carried solely by (fairly mediocre) artNah.
>>150725389USM isn't even that good
>>150726645>The recent FF run lasted 33 and ran immediately into a relaunch.This rebrand really bugs me because there was reason for it. It's the same writer. They could have kept going for the big 50 milestone. Remember milestone issues? You'd usually get a big double page celebration. Long runs used to be a sign of series sustainability.
>>150729455Milestone issues only happen every 50 or 100 issues. Why wait that long when you can milk out issue number 1s instead?The cunts in charge don't care about sustainability. They're still doing the same old short-term profit shit thats fucked over comics for the past two decades or so.
>>150729455>>150729571In the case of the current FF relaunch I honestly think is a movie synergy attempt. Not in changing the comic to be like the film but in making an issue 1 to coincide with the movie to entice newcomers.
>>150729611Aka, short term profit nonsense.
>>150729213>Absolute has much more interesting art than ultimateOkay still a win plus I also mentioned batman which is standard comic art
>>150729808>once ultimate ends i'm quitting comics. these are the last books I was somewhat interested in and keeping up with. oh wellYou don't like Absolute Wonder Woman?
>Absolute Boring Woman shillsFUCK. RIGHT. OFF.
It annoys me so much that they call it the ultimate universe. Literally anything else would have been better. We've already had the ultimate universe.
>>150729844AWW is the most consistently adventurous book of the line up.Like the big 3 of the absolute line in terms of quality is Batman, Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter.Superman has some cool ideas but feels like it just found its focus recently.While Green Lantern is to much of a slow burn and ironically Flash fumbled its initial arc by making it one issue to long and subsequently fucking up the rest of the pacing up to this point.
>>150727488So ultimate spider-man, but people have been having gripes about it recently to where they even dropped it.
>>150729829I haven't read it yet or any of the others. So far just batman and MM. Was gonna read flash next but if wonder woman that good I might read hers next.
>>150729929>AWW is the most consistently adventurous book of the line up.This. I love the mythic and grand scale of her story interwoven with her origins and her bond with her mother. Its also really nice how she beats all of her enemies and challenges with her wits and her bonds, rather than with just raw power.
