[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/co/ - Comics & Cartoons


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: 1028363172297.jpg (244 KB, 1080x779)
244 KB
244 KB JPG
They literally lost to a chinese cartoon movie and became the laughingstock of the internet overnight
>>
>>150745545
>Push woke faggotry in your comics for years
>Slowly push woke shit into the movies and shows
>Skip over decades of potential stories to use newer woke shit
>Ignore all criticisms of woke shit and double down
>People finally say "fuck it" after giving the big 2 chance after chance
It's really easy to understand if you're not a raging libtard
>>
>>150745545
I swear Superman and Fantastic Four are being glazed hard right now
Haven't seen either but I think we're past Marvel's brown D-lister slop era
>>
>>150745545
Capeshit was a fad and the fad is now over. Everyone's tired of it. Even good cape movies are unwelcome just for being cape movies.
>>
>>150745545
How do you "lose" when another movie makes more money than you? Making any amount of money is a win
>>
>>150745566
People who use "woke" and "libtard" think the person on Earth who leans second-farthest-to-the-right is a "woke libtard."
>>
>>150746647
You're right, anon. The forced diversity, making straight characters gay, all the race swaps and poorly told stories are actually very popular. Please continue to enjoy them
>>
>>150745545
>>150746618
Objectively, I agree, any movie that makes more money than it took to make is a technical 'win'.
Personally I've got fucking cape fatigue from over a decade of this nonsense, and anything that makes Hollywood do a double take or have second thoughts is welcome.
>>
File: 1738409944182074.jpg (136 KB, 1222x936)
136 KB
136 KB JPG
>>150746647
>>
>>150745545
Superman is not a good character.
>>
>>150745545
This is the 20th time you've posted this this week
>>
>>150745545
They believe they're too big to fail and are entitled to success, and they plan a dozen projects off that success before they've actually earned it.
>>
>>150746618
Demon Slayer is going to be way more profitable and is directly repsonsible for pushing out capeshit from the top 10 grossers this year.
>>
>spamming retard OP
>politishit amerilard
>anti-Superman subhuman
>wojackniggers
All the subhumans are here.
Ban everybody ITT, mods.
>>
>>150747007
Stfu fag
>>
File: 1614645839566.png (123 KB, 309x293)
123 KB
123 KB PNG
I hate Pedro Pascal so fucking much

I want to rebuild Dachau just to throw him and Walter Goggins in an oven
>>
>>150747041
>40 years spent trying to become popular
>still fails to Batman
No everyone else is the problem
>>
>>150745545
It's simple. People are tired of stagnation and both Marvel and DC have stagnated to the point they are atrophying.

>But muh anime!
It works because it's a simple pipeline: write manga, turn manga into accurate made anime, turn anime, if a success, into an awesome animated movie, branch out into gaming.

The west hasn't realized that yet though.
>>
>>150745545
...because it has been 20 years and audiences are fucking tired of all the superhero shit?

Half of it being remakes of the superhreo shit they were making back in 2003. Pretty much the ONLY big budget action flicks we get now is superhero shit. And even then 20 years ago we still got regular spy flicks, racing flicks, gangster crime flicks, and war flicks with the occasional superhero shit peppered in between. But in 2025 it's ONLY superhero shit across the board.
>>
>>150745545
Superman rules, I dont understand the haters. I know its some political antiwoke thing but I wasn't offended by Superman being an All American good boy. Thats why I like the character you know? He can have big Goku fights but he's all aw shucks and compassionate. If you're a zionist Israeli or a billionaire I guess you could be personally offended but frankly fuck those people.
>>
File: gball.jpg (9 KB, 300x168)
9 KB
9 KB JPG
>>150746618
Modern politics fueled social media has pretty much turned everything into a Red vs Blue contest.

Even if your project was hugely successful and turned a profit, the fact that the "Enemy" company made 10% more profit for their project means
>THEY WIN!! You LOOOSE!!!!

Way too many people project their political based company wars insecurities into everything they look at too. When they think company B is being too "Woke" then they seriously want to see them lose something or hurting bad. So they will accept a slight 10% difference in returns as their side winning over their perceived enemies somewhere in the world.
>>
>>150747242
It was both a grifter campaign and the Snydercult attacking concurrently
>>
>>150745545
>chinese
nice bait
>>
>>150747165
You know what I miss that big corporate profit seeking nuked? Dumb low budget comedies. I saw Beerfest again for the first time in like 10 years last night. It was terrible. I loved it. But you could never make Beerfest now because the corporate incentive structure now is 3rd party CGI contractors charging exorbitant rates from fatcat studios whose business model imploded without blockbusters.
>>
>>150747262
The Snyder guys I feel bad for desu, if Snyder had released his DC movies with the serial numbers filed off they'd be way more popular. It could've been its own little maudlin franchise. "Man of Gold", "Doctor Neptune", "Ratman vs Strongman" "Wander Woman", "Wander Woman 2: Animal Farm" & "The Right Group" would've been celebrated as semi-serious pastiches of cape drama. No baggage of needing to measure up to any source material or previously established moral codes.
>>
>>150747279
I miss low-budget crime action flicks with niggas doing martial arts and shooting sideways. Basically what Boondocks often parodied.
I guess this is considered racist nowadays.
>>
>>150747351
You mean Kung fu and blaxploitation movies? Those were also killed by corporations pursuing profits, they only tow the line of social decency as far as it's profitable. If these companies could generate Avengers money with Birth Of A Nation AND have the people making it take that insult on the chin, they would in a heartbeat. They're totally amoral. But just like a low budget comedy those sorts of movies are just too small in scope for big studios. Too many "fussy" artists involved, too many "unmanageable" directors, unorganized studios, not enough brand recognition for the global market, no lucrative 3rd party contractors; no instantly available merchandising options, streaming content, fan wikis, obsessive youtube reviewers, theme parks or video games.
>>
File: Bat-Merch.gif (1.65 MB, 580x464)
1.65 MB
1.65 MB GIF
>>150747063
The main issue is that there is simply no other character that is nearly as marketable as Batman. He's like the perfect mix of everything any studio would want in a property.

>Has a gadget for ANY occasion, nothing is too far out there so you can slap a Bat symbol on anything and sell it
>Has a vehicle for every occasion, you can make any toy in the world and it perfectly fits. Batmobile, Batwing, Bat-copter, Batboat, Bat-rocket, Bat-Mech, Bat-Sub.....
>Making up anything like a costume variant for any occasion also works so you can make wacky colorful figures forever
>All of this is before we even begin to think about standard merch tie-in crap like shirts, hats, shampoo, sunglasses, phones, keychains....
>He's just a normal guy with normal guy villains so it's easy to make movies and tv series out of him that use less special effects

The next best thing might be Iron Man with the endless waves of armors making it very easy to sell toys. But he still lacks all the vehicles like an Iron Boat, Iron Jet, Iron-Mobile... And no hand sized gadgets too so no dart guns, nerf guns, and themed boomerangs.
>>
>>150745545
Chinese shit is only big in China and irrelevant everywhere else. Fucking hell, Koreans fo better than them.
>>
>>150747534
What they need to do is partner with Petco and start selling Aquaman branded fish.
>>
>>150747279
I was thinking the same thing watching Tommy Boy a week or two ago. Not only do they just not make dumb wacky low budget comedies any longer, but SNL is not a revolving door of cast members that creates every new generation of comedians that spend about 3-ish years on the show then graduates up to making 2-3 solo movies with a couple of them becoming the big name comedians of the decade.
>>
>>150747534
As somebody who grew up on Donner's Superman and a variety of Superman shows from George Reeves' Adventures of Superman and Lois and Clark to Superman TAS, I just dislike Gunn and his writing.
It tries to be like the things I've mentioned above, but it just feels very insincere in a "how do you do, fellow Superman fans" kind of way.
It's not just an issue with his Superman, I dislike all of his capeshit for the same reason. His Guardians of the Galaxy is the same shit, made-by-committee slop that occasionally tries to pull on the viewers' heartstrings and retards are eating it up. It just feels very manufactured and manipulative.
Before somebody goes there since modern movie discourse is very "you're with me or against me": I curse Vishnu, Snyder is a talentless hack who should've stuck to making zombie flicks.
>>
File: 1757221932679720.jpg (2.06 MB, 4000x1638)
2.06 MB
2.06 MB JPG
>>150747242
>He can have big Goku fights
There weren't good fights in that movie tho
>but he's all aw shucks and compassionate.
Like goku. The difference is that goku doesn't act like a pussy.
>>
>>150747761
Naaaah the action was great! I liked that every set piece felt distinctive and it never relied on gore. Everybody (besides the Superman clone obviously) had very visually distinctive powers and roles in a fight. Even the Superman clone feels different because of Lex directing him. Its was cool.

Being nice doesn't make you a pussy lol, but if you aren't able to be nice without also feeling diminished...that does make you pussy. Tbqh I think even Goku would understand that if you walked him through it lol.
>>
>>150747580
I know it'll never happen but if they did an Aquaman toyline every figure should come with an aquatic animal. Maybe even giant ones that fold out into playsets.
>>
>>150747534
I'm actually surprised Disney never did this with Iron Man. Just invent a shitload of armors and armor attachments. The whole 90s Modular armor is basically made for this. A simple streamlined suit that can have everything from lasers, rockets, and giant robot claw arms plugged into it.

And if they cannot play up the ridiculous themed suits then they should do the Flash thing and really play up his villains. Instead of ignoring them and letting them be forgotten, play them up and overstate the wacky shit they do. There is an ice themed guy, guy with a super laser on his head, guy evil medieval knight on a flying horse, a guy made out of laser, guy with an alchemy gun, a giant alien dragon, girl turned into an evil AI, girl leader of international mafia. There is a lot to play with before we get around to the evil armored guys.
>>
>>150747761
Lol Goku sounds like an old woman and is constantly screaming in pain.
>>
>>150747796
> the action was great
Is this bait?
>>150747825
His voice is fine. More iconic than nuSuperman or Murder an https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgtt4A3-gsU
>>
>>150746959
Chuds would definitely a game called fat nigger troon 2 tho (what's fat nigger troon 1?)
>>
>>150747796
>Everybody (besides the Superman clone obviously) had very visually distinctive powers and roles in a fight
But superman was the only one who had an actual fight. The justice gang just fucked around with a kaiju like it was a joke and trashed some soldiers
>>
>>150745545
They need to start showing sex and nudity. Only then will they be taken seriously.
>>
>>150747566
He was talking about Demon Slayer
>>
>>150747247
>Modern politics fueled social media has pretty much turned everything into a Red vs Blue contest.
GOOD, We don't want the people to join up and start demanding shit from the wealthy and powerful. Continue divided and fighting.
>>
>>150747949
I thought those were all enjoyable sequences desu, I dont watch a Superman movie because I expect to see superheroes struggle *physically*. Physically they should be dabbing on everyone. The conflicts should be social, manipulative. I thought it worked great desu.
>>
>>150746618
Box office status is real. Capeshit spent 10 years on top of the box office. Now it can't compete. If you can't see how that's losing im not sure what to tell you.
>>
>>150748062
> dont watch a Superman movie because I expect to see superheroes struggle *physically*
You shouldn't watch comic book movies
>>
>>150745545
>They literally lost to a chinese cartoon movie and became the laughingstock of the internet overnight
I can't tell if you're talking about the demon slayer movie or Ne Zha 2
>>150746959
I can't even tell what this image is saying
>>
>>150748023
But that's Nip shit. I though he was referencing Ne Zah which made money and China and literally nowhere else.
>>
>>150747796
>>150747949
Everyone fucking around is the issue with the action in Supes25. From the Hammer of Boravia to the kaiju to the dimension escape, most of the fights don't have much direction and are mostly the characters being reactive until they think of something to do (which Superman doesn't even get to in the Hammer and kaiju fights). The Superman/Ultraman/Engineer fight at the end was more engaging because there was none of that bullshit, they were finally just trying to kill him.
I want to like the movie and its interpretation of Superman as a man of action who simply acts, sometimes without even thinking, to do the right thing, but it fails to consistently show purposefulness in that action.
>>
>>150748062
You're what's wrong with capeshit fans. You can have all that shit you described and amazing action that tests the heroes abilities
>>
>>150747958
Like Peacemaker? I presume the Authority has a bigger chance of sex&nudity than mainline stuff.
>>
>>150748165
Sometimes japs get called chinese
>>
>>150745545

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/150738671
>>
>>150745545
I genuinely think they need to lose. Superhero fatigue forever!
>>
>>150747052
What´s wrong with Goggins? Please don't tell me he has become Pedro 2.0, that would suck.

Fucking loved him in the Hatefull Eight.
>>
File: lool.jpg (132 KB, 1078x535)
132 KB
132 KB JPG
>>150747024
Not anymore, lol. FX cucked anime from #6 all the way from down to #9. And with Zootopia 2 (China and Russia confirmed), Wicked 2 and Avatar 3, they'll kick Demon Slayer out of the Top 10 and Superman barely just manages to be #10.
>>
>>150747247
Yes yes, it's all the consumer's fault that the big studios keep injecting wokeshit, DEI, and LGBT propaganda in everything they make. you're right anon! Those damn movie watchers, they caused that shit to happen! It was all them!
>>
>>150745545
What? Superman actually did well though and it's been a top seller for blu rays and is on "Most Watched" on HBO right now
FF4 was an actual flop though and I'm getting sick of faggots like >>150745568
With the revisionism that no one cared about Superman's movie when it was new
>>
>>150747711
I actually see the new Superman movie as the first time a film was not embarrassed to have all the wacky over the top high concept comic stuff in it. Luthor casually making a pocket dimension, Krypto existing at all, loads of other superpowered people in a giant shared universe setting, zero Jesus allegories... It was a movie actually made for Superman fans, not people who watched Lois and Clark and wished to god someone made a movie out of that.

While Donner and just about everything else was the same old attempt to be as REAL WORLD as possible by being totally embarrassed about 99% of Superman's published history and downplaying as much as humanly possible. The Donner fans got their wish with Superman Returns and it was the single most boring damn thing put to film.
>>
>>150748062
I watch a superhero movie because I want to see ridiculous comic action. I want to see a superpowered guy in a costume fight a giant robot, an alien monster, or a bigger guy in a costume. That's the point of it all.
>>
>>150746618
You "lose" when company which made a film admits film flopped, dumb fucking nigger
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2025/10/8/report-superman-box-office-isnt-the-success-warner-bros-claimed
>>
>>150747247
No, gay woke liberals did that. And continue doing that. They turn everything into US vs THEM and are not subtle about it either.
>>
>>150749244
It's wild to imagine that we might end the year with only one superhero title in the top 10 barely clinging on.
>>
>>150746959
Fat Nigger Troon 1 had a better campaign but worse multiplayer imo.
>>
>>150747913
I'd play it simply because with a name like that there's no way a tranny dev worked on it without committing suicide.
>>
>>150749355
See >>150749058
OP and his redditor friends are trying to force a narrative
>>
>>150747247
Mmmm?
Surely unrelated to the OP?
After all, not only did Superman make less than Snyderman, which inevitably means you're in for a failure, but it failed to profit too.
The argument is less "ohoho that anime movie made more money" and more "oh wow this shit flopped. And look, that shit got a gazillion moneys. Both are from 'comics', so clearly there's a problem. Must be the faggotry that one has and the other lacks."
>>
>>150749521
This post reeks of curry
>>
>>150745568
>>150745545
These were both pretty good. Solid adaptations of the characters.
Better than Man of Murder and all the previous F4 attempts.
>>
>>150749356
Yeah I liked how campy Gunn's Superman was.
Especially bringing in a bunch of weird characters the normies wouldn't recognize at all.
>Guy Gardner
>Metamorpho
>Mr. Terrific
>The Engineer
The world felt very lived in.
>>
>>150745545
easy:

you were 20 years old in 2012
you are 43 years old in 2025.
>>
>>150749381
Thats fine me too

>>150748178
No dummy I just know that *Superman* in particular is more interesting as a storytelling device when his limitless strength isn't terribly helpful to fixing a fiendish plot. This is like writing 101 stuff. Instead of him needing to be "even more stronger" its cool to see anything undefeatable man have to play at games he's unfamiliar with; like a hostile interview or trying to nonlethally take down a kaiju. Its not surprising to anyone that Superman is stronger than his opponent lol
>>
File: just from today alone.jpg (247 KB, 853x1038)
247 KB
247 KB JPG
>>150749058
I'm wondering if this is the same guy. It seems the move is to keep spamming the same topic with some occasional variations until one sticks. Rinse and repeat so there's a perpetual tribal shitflinging thread up.
>>
File: 1754182030682351.webm (3.6 MB, 720x312)
3.6 MB
3.6 MB WEBM
>>150745545
the stuff they make is just lame like what zoomer or gen A kid is rushing to see this shit
>>
File: 1709063405594048.jpg (145 KB, 1242x1749)
145 KB
145 KB JPG
>>150745545
Warner and Disney are among gay men, trannies and dykes. They hate everything that is made for straight men. They don't care about losing money, so pray that straight billionaires buy Warner.
>>
>>150745545
>to a chinese cartoon movie
the actual chinese cartoon Ne Zha 2 or Kitmetsu no Yaiba?
>>
>>150750182
It is.
>>
>>150749244
This list is outdated. Demon Slayer already passed F1.
>>
>>150753157
It's not outdated. Box Office Mojo actually had it at $633 million but then they lowered it after they adjusted with the FX because of the yen declining and lost nearly $70 million because of it lol. F1 is way above it now
>>
File: 1733180079974842.jpg (50 KB, 500x375)
50 KB
50 KB JPG
>>150749356
>While Donner and just about everything else was the same old attempt to be as REAL WORLD as possible
Holy shit you zoomers are fucking stupid
>>
>>150745545
Marvel is stuck in a rut, while Gunn does get comic's silliness, does not understand that most of it is played straight, not *wink-wink* post-modern bullshit writing
>>
File: IMG_2447.jpg (346 KB, 2048x1536)
346 KB
346 KB JPG
>>150746647
Yes, is that an issue ?
>>
>>150753276
Box office mojo is wrong then. They had the box office for Demon Slayer in the 700s a few days ago.



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.