https://youtu.be/5eZonu8XsEs
https://files.catbox.moe/ue2czf.mp4New Vee thing too.But holy shit, is it good to see it fully animated.
>>150763348STORM'S COMING I CAN SEE THE CLOUDS
>>150763348hell yeah!
>>150763348Holy shit a hazbin song I actually like.
Adam should come back as a Demon.
>>150763481You are a 10% more of a faggot sorry I am too, this song is good
She won.
what do people think of the lute is eve theory?
panel is being livestreamed now:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6RGbXvIswU
>>150763348Hazshit Hotel is Tumblrina cancer and not even great music can convince me otherwise. VivziePop is a whiny bitch who blocks anybody on Twitter who gives her even the most fair of criticisms, is a Disney adult, fucks over animators who work for her, and it pisses me off how she's supposedly leading the next animation Renaissance. Her designs also look like shit, they're like the failed abortion between Invader Zim and Tim Burton with Mickeys jizz sprinkled a bit onto them. Oh well though, I guess cause theater kid zoomers have zero taste they'll eat this shit up, just like they do with other slop like K-Pop Demon Hunters, they're a generation with zero taste.
Could Adam dick calm her down?
>>150763592i'm not reading that shit
>>150763623It could but unless she mounted his corpse cock offscreen its too late for that.
>>150763348EYE FOR AN EYE SAYS YOU OWE ME A DEBT
>>150763592>Not even great musicEven this retard agrees, I didn't read the rest btw kill yourself
>>150763623>Prosthetic is a legit fucking eagle clawSHE'S SO FUCKING COOL
>>150763485But he never did anything wrong.
beats anything S1 had to offer and not a chance in hell the rest of S2 offers any competition
>>150763592>Hazshit Hotel is Tumblrina canceryeah but it's a guilty pleasure
>>150763348PLEASE stop putting out fucking bangers, half my playlist is HH/HB songs and i don't even like the story that much
>Adam is a schizo apparition/ghost now because they realized he was the best character and they killed him too earlyI'm ok with thisSinner Adam when though
>>150763465SANCTUS DOMINUS
>>150763348MY FUCKING DICK DUUUUUUUUDE
>>150763965>latin for "holy lord"based, i want them to lean into more of this aesthetic
>>150763348Fucking yes.
>>150763348THE KINOIT'S OVERFLOWINGI can't believe I'm actually excited, since Season 1 sucked.
AN EYE FOR AN EYE SAYS YOU OWE ME A DEBT
>>150764232sauce of this image please?
If they redeem Lute, i'm gonna be mega mad
>>150764293BLOOD DEMANDS BLOODGONNA GET MY HANDS WET
>this angel gives (You) this lookWat do?
>>150763348These are the only two forms of Gravity I accept.https://youtu.be/uQpclIzUwLk?si=MLOSX0jVUW4UuZLshttps://youtu.be/9ZWFiPg7i1Y?si=SANeSpERKDwgNJhE
>>150764334i whip it out
>>150763623>Implying he would want her to calm downThey'd be banging on top of a pile of slain demons
>>150764305Artist is connoreyka on Twitter/X
>>150763592>Hazshit Hotel is Tumblrina cancerCatnip for this board then
>>150763649One of the cannibals probably ate it.
>>150763348Even now they still have great synergy. The added slam sounds are also nice
>>150764309Lute doesnt need redemption though for she did nothing wrong
>Be a mortal who breached Hell through forbidden methods>Trying to fight demons on your own>Get captured by an Exorcist insteadWhat do?
>>150763348>another song that does nothing to advance the plot and just tells us what we already know: Lute’s hateboner for demonsyay I love shitty musicals
>>150764547where can i subscribe to your blog?
>>150764547Did you miss the part where 80% of the song isn't about demons, it's about her grief for Adam, who she is in love with, which is a new revelation for Season 2 and this song. Did you miss that her whole thing now is making Charlie hurt by killing Vaggie not because she hates demons but because they took Adam away from her and she wants Charlie to feel the specific pain of losing her loved one. Like did you listen to the song at all
>>150764533Holy gifts and prayers.
Lute being the main villain is going to get real funny when the sinners attack Heaven later on in the season and prove her biases right.
>>150764603>Did you miss the part where 80% of the song isn't about demons, it's about her grief for Adam, we saw her grief in season 1 >who she is in love with, which is a new revelation for Season 2 and this song. we could assume this from season 1 >Did you miss that her whole thing now is making Charlie hurt by killing Vaggieshe already tried killing vaggie in season 1 >not because she hates demons but because they took Adam away from her and she wants Charlie to feel the specific pain of losing her loved one. so youre admitting shes downgraded from a soldier who wants to exterminate demons to a crazy girlfriend who wants to spite a woman she barely knows? wow >Like did you listen to the song at allyes and it was SHIT >>150764587im chaifootsteps from tumblr btw
>>150764887No you're not
>>150764880I hope Lute gets to murder someone important before she dies. Praying it's either Lucifer or Valentino.
>>150763561Did they say anything worth listening?
>>150763348I hope you fools bought Lutcoin early because it's going TO THE MOON!
>>150764880>>150764946I highly doubt even Vivzie would be dumb enough to stuff a full Lute plot in with the Vees' plot. It's gonna be for season 3, I guarantee.
>>150764946I really want to see Lucifer die, that cunt.
Sorry, I'm rooting for the "bad guys" here
>>150764946Adam comes back as a Sinner and she kills him because she doesn't recognize him.
>>150764207Finally some eroticism that isn't just vulgar. I love how feral Lute is dealing with all her different emotions right now.
>>150764334Pray for Mercy.
>>150765101>Adam comes back as a Sinner and she kills him because she doesn't recognize him.And he respawns immediately because he did it once already.
>>150763481You didn't like Hell is forever?
>>150764533Lute is so gonna fall at the end of the season
>>150764311Is blood wet?
>>150763348This shit is fucking stupid for dumb retards
>>150765195Then you must love it
>>150764946>>150765075It's only got to be Lucifer, right? He singlehandedly trivializes any adversity Charlie might face, and now that he's taking active interest in her work, from a narrative standpoint, it's got to be him.From a personal standpoint, I want it to be him. He's supposed to be more sympathetic than Adam but he's just a different kind of smug jackass.
>>150765091absolutely this, unironically. Adam and Lute were the only relationship in this show I felt anything for, even in little things like their animation choreography there seemed to be real love between them. none of the other character dynamics, romantic or otherwise, make me give a shit that way. I 100% want to see Lute get her frankly deserved vengeance
>>150764988All I remember is:>Viv said her biggest regret with Season 1 is not spending enough time with Adam as a villain>Episode 1 and Episode 2 of S2 take place at the same time, and Episode 2 will be entirely in Heaven
>>150765227What right does Lute have to seek vengeance, Adam himself went overboard with his extermination campaign and changed the deal because it pleased him.
>>150765191If your blood's still liquid, yeah.
>>150763592Ehh I liked kpop demon hunter and it's song
>>150765227Remember: We're supposed to think Lute is bad because she kills evil sinners
>>150765227>even in little things like their animation choreography>that part when HallucinAdam starts a shoulder roll and Lute naturally keeps it going even while pissed offWhy did they give the best chemistry to the duo we're supposed to hate?
>>150765269>Adam deserved it because he killed too many evil demons and Lute should suck it upokay Charlie
>>150765075Me too, brother. me too, I want him beaten into the floor by Michael, just like he did to Adam, but way worse with a lot blood, to show that his actions have consequences and that Heaven ain't gonna stand against their disgusting blasphemy
>>150765269Okay but none of that is going to stop her loving and missing him. If you've ever been in love you'll understand. Lute is loyal and that's admirable even if the person she's loyal to is shitty. That makes her likable. She's staying true to who she is and to the person who matters most to her.
>>150765359That's not even close to what I said >>150765375>and that Heaven ain't gonna stand against their disgusting blasphemyTake your LARP somewhere else
Post some Adam, please.
>>150765155No, it's better if he stays dead. And she never figures out what she did so by the time she realizes that Adam might have become a demon and goes looking for him it's already too late. And at that point she either goes even more insane trying to find Adam or she finds his corpse, finally realizes what she did, and that's what makes her more insane.
>>150765396Demon loving nigger
>>150765254I still don't know why Adam had to be Adam when hardly anything was done with him being Adam before he was killed off. He could very well have been Michael like everyone wants with few changes. I imagine it's some angle about misogyny or whatever being inherent to manhood because the very first man was that way, but that's a boring way to use a person with such in-setting significance. The only real way to rectify this mistake is to bring Adam back for real, even if he's not in a main antagonist role.
>>150765326right?? I feel like a fag because their dynamic is honestly pretty cute, that's just the best word for it. Lute getting so excited about impressing Adam while they're hyping up the exterminators that she gets so into it that even Adam is a little freaked out, for example. and as for their songs, they're always SO synchronised like you mentioned, it's awesome. the characters we're meant to like have NONE of that, it's really such a dumb move narratively
>>150765412Of course
It's funny that this thread is full of wannabe saints because if I can say something for sure is that if it exists 99% of you are going to hell
>>150765326You're not supposed to hate them, at least Adam, Viviziepop has said he is an enjoyable villain
>>150765412Adam x Anon
>>150765269The deal was broken when Carmilla Carmine killed one of his Exorcists. At that point Adam had every right to fuck with them because demons broke the rules first.
>>150765414>killing Adam (again)>Lute going insane (again)That's actually not that interesting. It'd be more interesting if she recognizes him as a demon. I said he'd come back mostly to poke at the idea that he couldn't when his ability to do that is what creates this scenario in the first place.
>>150764988>>150765254Rewatched the panel. Here's what else I learned.>Gravity was inspired by Hellfire>Chaggie will have a relationship obstacle to overcome>Season 2's theme is "Identity/Reflection" and its color theme is blue>Vox's greatest strength is his access to media and his ability to manipulate the masses. His greatest weakness is that he's a hurt little boy>Niffty is getting a solo song that's very wordy and 200 BPM>Huskerdust will be slow burn>Hazbin on broadway will have songs from both S1 and S2
>>150765075say anon, what would you say would be your favorite media to broadcast stuff?
>>150765477relax, anon. as long as we act selfless, don't steal and stick it to the man, we'll be fine!
>>150765498I can tell Viv likes Adam. She made him someone her typical audience would hate though. It's funny to see them begrudgingly come to like him and Lute as they get screentime together, but you still get comments like "But she's EVIL!!??!"
>>150765534>Chaggie will have a relationship obstacle to overcomeAnother easy barrier I assume
Can someone post the season 2 song emojis from Amazon again?
>>150765534Forgot to add>Sir Pentious is entering his "new kid in school" arc. Season 2 is a very stressful season for him.-Cherri Bomb will be getting more emotional depth, especially exploring her relationship with Pentious after he sacrificed himself in front of her>Alastor trusts Charlie the most and fears Adam the most
are adam fans just a bunch of self inserters?
>>150765648No.
vivzieGOD has been redeemed in my eyes
>>150765534>ChaggieI would rather them just be casual wholesome heckin lesbians than see a nanosecond of time more devoted to it.>HuskerdustDisgusting but inevitable.
>>150765591I'm sure it'll be much more important and deserving of focus than Lute's unyielding, vengeful rampage and the war on heaven Vox is planning
>>150765534>Hazbin on broadwayTHERE'S GOING TO BE HAZBIN HOTEL ON BROADWAY!?!?
>>150765648He was fun and brought the smallest amount of bite to the show.I ain't him tho.
>>150765648I think Adam is a lout and don't see him as me at all. He's a bro though and I'd fight demons by his side.
>>150765648A lot are unironically women.
>>150765698yeah, October 20thhttps://playbill.com/article/hazbin-hotel-is-coming-to-broadway-for-a-1-night-only-concert
>>150765412
>>150765648The self-insert characters are all the faggots.
>>150765729HOLY SHIT! VIVZIEPOP'S BROADWAY DREAMS CAME TRUE!!!
>>150765534>>150765641Why would Cherri Bomb care about Pentious? He got dragged into a sex room to be raped and she did nothing.>Vox's weakness is he is just a hurt little boyOh my fucking god are they really going to redeem him
>>150765729Imagine the smell.
>>150765742would this have happened if she didn't replace all the pilot actors with broadway people?
>>150765729imagine the smell
Every interaction that Adam and Lute have just a ridiculous amount of chemistry. They're probably the most fun characters to watch interact during the musical numbers.
>>150765771it was the right move it was retarded having two voice actors per singing character to begin with
>>150765512Adam asshole will be gaping
Kind of disappointed that there wasn't more emphasis on the stomps in the fully animated version. The leaks really sold each of them having more oomph to them.Still a damn good song though.
>>150765747>Why would Cherri Bomb care about Pentious?They did a shipping speedrun, making the assumption you've seen the pilot to make it even come close to being built up. I could see Pentious still simping from the other side but they didn't really show Cherri developing any deep feelings for him before he died.
>>150763348I like Lute and the pissed angel looks cute, but this is one of the weaker songs in the show.
>>150765816You'd have to shove your whole body up there to do that.
>150765872bait
>>150764533Hey baby, wanna kill some demons?
>>150765934all demons*
>Episode One>Hazbin Guarantee >Vox song>Episode Two>Showing Pentious around song (featuring Emily, Abel and St. Peter)>Sera and Speaker song>Gravity>Episode Three>Pentious and Cherry song>Hide Away (probably an Emily song)>Episode Four>New Alastor and Vox duet where Alastor gets BTFO'd >Niffty song>You Are My Pet (Alastor and Rosie song)>Episode Five>Three Vox songs, one with Lucifer and another maybe with Lute>Episode Six>Fun and "sexy" Chaggie song>Husk song>Emotional song>Episode Seven>Vox song>Pentious song>Episode Eight>Three-way battle song with Vox, angels and Hotel gang >Hotel reconciling with Heaven song
so like, is adam a ghost ? or is it in her head ? If it's in her head, why do they show a white outline around things going through him like he's some fancy hologram ? If he's a ghost, how the hell does that work ?
>>150765944Let's kil them they become demons, just to be sure.
>>150765641>>Alastor trusts Charlie the most and fears Adam the mostThe edge lord being scared of the goofy dudebro is inherently funny to me
>>150764547she explains her plan to kill charlie's girlfriend. It's a new plot element.
I really really hope they bring Adam back somehow
>>150765971Schizophrenic hallucination, all in her head.
>>150765471More of this kind of Charlie? The bottom picture makes me feel strange things and I am willing to explore.
Stayed Gone is still undethroned imo.
>>150765998he's gonna met up with Cain and Eve trust the plan
>>150765984this is probably part of it, Adam being able to kill Alastor is second to Adam just not taking him seriously
Is alastor going to do, like, literally anything this time ?
>>150765984>fruity theater kid not so sassy after bullied by frat boy jock
>>150766079Yes.He'll get manhandled by Rosie and Vox.
I love the song, but what is Lute gonna do when Vox is taking over the whole season? We even see in the trailer that she's forced by the other angels to bring a peace gift in what seems to be the final battle of the season. The best she could do is give some angel-killing weapons to Vox so he can kill the Hotel for her, but even then, that can blow up in her face dramatically. Once more it seems like Vivzie is filling the season with too much and it's not gonna give characters like her the chance to shine, even with songs like this that exist to hype her up.
>>150766079is getting raped anything?
>>150766118I am holding out hope she is bsing and gunning for punking Lucifer at the absolute most devastating moment
>>150766118it's a setup for season 3. worry not
>>150766079From the previews, continue to be tumblr-man bait.
>next Hazbin doujin event is going to have more Adam/Lute than ever beforeI'm winning.
ADAM HAS RETURNED
my wife is making her comeback!!!
>>150765534>>Chaggie will have a relationship obstacle to overcomeHow much do you want to bet the obstacle is Velvette, the show's newest lesbian?
>>150766357so what you're saying is that vaggie will have a whole cuck-rage arc?
>>150763348Holy PEAK
>>150763348So Lute wants to go after Vaggie to hurt Charlie? I don't see how she can possibly get close to her unless she ends up making a deal with Vox.
>>150766416Possibly? It's not out of character for her... and I do recall there being a shot of Velvette reeling something in (?), which presumably is during a song. She could be trying to woo Charlie, either as part of Vox's plan, or out of an attraction that appears out of nowhere.Whatever the case, I already know this obstacle won't have any breathing room, and will be resolved in the next episode, if not sooner.
>>150765515Carmine is a dyke, right? Those daughters of hers are definitely adopted.
>>150765809Based and true. All the Internet VAs can go cry to GLITCH about being dumped because they couldn't sing.
>>150763592>Vaggie is missing an eye>Because only angel weapons can harm angels>But Vaggie forgot>But Lute can rip off her own arm>Which means angels can be harmed by more than angel weaponsGood writing Vivzieplop, or do you expect me to believe Vaggie just forgot she was missing an eye.
The only thing i want to see is the death of that bitch Lilith by Lute. Traitor, slimy bitch
>>150765191 your mum was totally gushing wet last night
>>150766737Adam and Lilith were obviously friends with benefits.
>>150766784Even more reason for Lute to murder that slut
>>150766723Was it ever specified if Angel Dust's guns were angelic? Or Cherri's bombs? Or any of the weapons on Sir Pentious' blimp? Cause the first two were clearly harming angels, and the latter boarded his ship with the intent of stopping Adam.Man, this show makes my head hurt sometimes...
>>150766802I assume the weapons were angelic, but Pentious was just a dumbass.
She's going to fail. Vivzies not gonna let her faggy demons ever suffer actual consequences.
>>150766357It's clearly the fact that Emily is coming down there, and her attitude and outlook are very similar to Charlie's. So vaggie will feel threatened and Charlie less likely to listen to her advice now that someone finally thinks like her
Any more leaks recently?I hope they release Seras song too, for some reason I enjoyed it
Oh wow.I actually like this one.
>>150765729its free? wow. tickets by request hope I get tickets
>>150766802They were all upgraded with angelic steel.Now its unclear if Angel Dust's guns were just upgraded, or does it need to fire angelic steel bullets too, and no idea how does Cherri's bombs work with it.
>>150763348LETS FUCKING GO!!!!
I don't care about the song but damn the choreography is so cool. Adan design is top tier
>>150763348Not bad
>>150766938Songwriters have some kind of unwritten rule where the villain song has to be the best one.
>>150765534>Huskerdust will be slow burnLast time Vivzie did "slowburn", it wound up in the entire fucking plot getting hijacked for an angsty "will they won't they?"
>>150765948>vox has 7 songs >none of them got leaked how is that even possible?
>>150767435It's because the protagonist tends to be some boring nice one, so you can only have funny, "moral message" or sad songs, all with nice and moral language. Villains meanwhile can feel and express hatred and anger, which means more emotionally chilling or blood boiling songs, not to mention they have more freedom in what they can say
>>150765948Sauce?
He is cute
>Gay demon show>Straight angels have the best songIt really makes you think
>>150763348damn
>>150767637Adam could have been such a better villain if they didn't make him so fucking goofy
>>150765091It definitely helps that Lute and the Exterminators have no antipathy towards humans.
>>150765326>>150765469Adam was always a piece of shit to Lute anons, cmon. She deserved a much better lover
>>150766723Obviously it was an angelic table.
>>150765948leak?
>>150767711I like Adam as he is, actually. He's a goofball but that makes him a different flavor of threatening. The dude is just having fun and casually mogging most of the heroes. I do like seeing a more sinister side of him, even if it's a figment of Lute's angry broken mind. I think he would be a totally different character if he were like that all the time, but it'd add a little more nuance to him. I maintain he should default to goofy, though.
>>150767622VERY
>>150767980Not really. He yells at her once in frustration, which is bad, but they get along fine the rest of the time.
>>150768102>but they get along fine the rest of the time.To me it always felt like Adam didn't give a shit about Lute and Lute was all over him, simping in a very depressing and pathetic way
>>150768053>The dude is just having fun and casually mogging most of the heroesIf he wasn't such a smug and self centered goofy monkey he could have defeated the whole hell by himself to be honest
>>150768135You might have been watching a totally different show
It's amusing how, for a few months after the first season ended, there was some legit debate as to whether Lute was in love with Adam. Now this song has spelled it out concretely how much she loved in romantically. Literally saying he completed her.>>150764946>>150765226You can NOT give Lute a song like this without it leading to something big from her. She needs to get a big kill or do something else equivalently big. The big question of course is whether or not this show has the balls to actually have Lute kill off someone in the main cast.
>>150768209Maybe i need to rewatch it yeah
>>150767980I'm happily married irl, their dynamic screams relationship to me. The ribbing they do to each other, yes even the occasional yelling, is the kind you only do with someone you are deeply long term comfortable with, it's clearly underpinned with a ton of affection
>>150768135Lute is indeed a simp, but Adam wasn't dismissive of her. He yields the floor to her on a few occasions and backs her up while doing so, even listens to her when she says not to go after Charlie in the middle of Heaven. He might have acted like a pouty child about it, but he did heed her.
>>150768269>have Lute kill off someone in the main cast.CMON KILL THAT BITCH LUTE, KILL LILITH IN CHARLIE's FACE
>>150768309>>150768317Maybe to me it felt like Adam was in for sex only? And it was obvious Lute was in it in a more deep way? I really don't remember much, i really need to rewatch it to know why i came to that conclusion
>>150768179I think the qualities that make him "goofy" are separate from the qualities that make him "self centered", and both are separate from the qualities that make him "threatening". If he was totally serious he could still be undone by selfishness. In fact, that's a pretty common flaw in villains. I don't think he was any less capable of defeating the whole of Hell by himself just because he was goofy, and I don't think it was his goofiness that was his undoing. It was picking a fight with the daughter of the one dude in Hell that could kick his shit in that did it, and that's something even a serious version of Adam would do, because he would be Charlie's foil either way.
Checked reddit and they honestly believe lute will kill vaggie. Vivziepop is too much of a leftist pussy to punish charlie in any way.Also they think Lute is Eve, from leaks we know that isnt true.
>>150768364Adam didn't have sex with Lute thoughHe gets revenge on women (like the whole concept of women, all women) by pumping and dumping them because after thousands of years of misery and inadequacy he's a bit fucked up but he isn't fucking Lute because he likes her as a person and at this point he doesn't know how to have a relationship, only empty sex.
>>150768364I mostly agree with this. They had a close relationship but Adam probably saw it as more friends with benefits wheres Lute was more romantically inclined. That look Adam gives her as he's dying though tells me that he understood how she felt at the last moment.
>>150768364Adam doesn't seem to even touch the exorcists sexually. The unnamed ones are just subordinates that we see no extended interactions with besides him hyping them up for battle which is not abnormal, and Lute herself is treated like a bro. He doesn't get handsy with her or anything. He actually gets handsier with Charlie lol.
>>150768269No one denied Lute loved Adam, rather it was the opposite, people thought Adam didn't really give much of a shit about her even if he smirked at her in the end.
>>150768422I'm more shocked that none of the Lute / Vaggie shippers are going ballistic at the reveal that Lute isn't a lesbian.
>>150768498Adam is really fucking good to those exorcists compared to every other Hellaverse boss and their subordinates. He doesn't own their souls, for one.
>>150763348glad to see the show loves Lute and Adam as much as I do.
>>150768525Got a reddit or twitter link of that? Shes straight, ergo EVIL, pretty simple idea.
>>150763623Of course he is the dickmaster after all
>>150768636I haven't any specific examples. I just know there's some people who were under the assumption that Lute and Vaggie were disgruntled exes, or consider Lute to be a closet lesbian, and ship the two.
>>150768636Lute x Vaggie being real would make Lute a way more shitty and evil person though
>>150768690Well yeah cause she'd be gay.
>>150765412Here you go
Based that the girl with the dykiest haircut is the straight one. It would be funny if Adam never made a move because he wrongly assumed she was gay.
>>150768515Having seen the leaks, this is a question Lute asks, herself. It's hard to interpret that smirk any way besides him at least having affection for her. They could have just had him die and not give any kind of reaction at all while Lute cries over him, which would communicate her feelings for him without complicating it with the question of whether he returned her feelings. That smirk is no accident, it took hours of manpower to bring you that smirk all for the purpose of pushing your mind in that direction. Whether they'll pull the rug from under it or not is another thing, but what you're intended to think about it is clear.
>>150768690Let's be fair, though: it's nothing new for lesbian ships. There's a common element of toxicity.
As much as I like the song, am I the only one who feels like the lack of any scenes showing real emotional depth between her and Adam in season 1 aside from their very last scene hurts the music and overall impact of what’s going on?I mean is the whole angle here that she was obsessively in love with him in an incredibly one sided fashion due to him pretty much creating her or are we gonna see flashback shit of these two fucking like animals?
>>150768753>Adam's ego gets the better of him and he decides to dykebreak Lute>Adam doesn't realize Lute is not gay>She goes along with it immediately and becomes blushy submissive putty in his hands>Adam is almost disappointed because he expected a fight
>>150768753That haircut seems like standard issue for exorcists. Vaggie kept her hair short too. It'd still be funny if Adam thought his girls were gay because of a haircut he ordered them to get.
>>150768858>the lack of any scenes showing real emotional depth between her and AdamWhat are we even talking about?
>>150763348That was the song that was leaked, so no wonder she rushed to upload it first. However, is it me or the singing is worse?
>>150768753That's the dyke cut? I thought that was the one with half their head shaved.
>>150768931Bro she is just standing next to him. I wanted to see them doing shit together in season 1 after the first episode and I got nothing
>>150768858She doesn't actually know if he loved her back. It's as big a mystery for her as it is the audience. I actually think, as far as pairings go, they're one of the more well-developed despite the scarcity of screen time. There are no big shipping moments between them, but their relationship is characterized in regular interactions, and since they don't really ever appear separately, their relationship is characterized about as much as they as individual characters are.
>>150768982>Hang out casually>React the same way to demon shits entering heavenAll we needed.
>>150768982This is what bothers me about guitar spear shippers. The shit that goes down in season 1 can easily be passed as friends. Yes, it's now confirmed that Lute loved Adam but if that wasn't the case, it wouldn't be surprising. It's no better than fujos screaming about how insert gay ship is canon because insert normal human interaction between friends. And then what gets passed off as evidence has a shit load of headcanon slathered on it.
>>150768941>is it me or the singing is worse?Like, between the leak and the final version or just in general? I did notice Adam's YEAHs were less crisp. I could hear that shit right in my ear in the leaks.
>>150765534>Season 2's theme is "Identity"GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOAN
>>150765534>Chaggie will have a relationship obstacle to overcomeThe obstacle should be how Vaggie has no real personality and life goals outside of being there for Charlie.Like does she have hobbies? interests? Vaggie right now is the type of person if you ask her what's her favorite food or color would reply "whatever Charlie likes."
>>150766897Charlie should just fuck Emily instead, vaggie has negative chemistry
>>150769047>The shit that goes down in season 1 can easily be passed as friends.This is ironic because I remember arguing with people on the opposite way, against people who claimed that Adam saw Lute as just a sex object for him to order around - and not as a soldier he respects and befriends.>Lute how many demons did you kill this year?>Got a good 275 this year, Sir.>275? Woah! Badass! Awesome job, Dangertits. Pound it.>[fist bump intensifies]
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>>150765648I liked Adam because as the First Man he had a lot of potential for the story.Like the whole Creation story from his point of view, since the book Charlie reads is clearly bullshit, would be interesting to see.Or how he clearly wasn't always the asshole because we do know only good people get into heaven even if we dont know the exact details, making him a good foil for Charlie's ideals, showing someone in heaven can change for the worse just like someone in hell can change for the better.basically he just had tons of potential and was wasted being killed off in the first season.
Reminder that if Adam never gets the Sinner treatment then he was always in the right.Vivzie has to acknowledge this as fact if she wants her show to be internally consistent.
>>150769359He's in Super Heaven now.
>>150765515That's silly reasoning. Did they expect the people who got there for not following rules and who never agreed in the first place to not object to being killed? Who were armed by the Exterminators themselves, at that.
They're not even going to let Lute be her own villain. She's going to have Adam acting as her Stand the whole time, just like Stella and Andy.
>He was evil!>Wasn't he erasing pedophiles, rapists and murderers from existence? >Y-yeah, but he was mean! Only a woman or a man who wants to be a woman could have such a dumb fuck moral compass
>>150763504That just means he can fuck your ass up 10% harder.
>>150766962>no idea how does Cherri's bombs work with it.Fragmentation.
>>150763348This actually goes hard?? Wtf???
Lute is the only reason I'm looking forward to season 2, the whole Vox vs Alastor plot sounds boring as fuck the Vs really THE Vs are supposed to be the new big bad guys
>>150769458>uh WOW I may be a raping, pillaging drug lord but at least I'm not RUDEAdam did nothing wrong except fuck around too much to get the job done.
>>150769426Adam and Lute are never apart. They've always been a package deal.
How would a sinner Robotnik fare in the Hazbin/Helluva Universe?
>>150763348Pray, stop being a degenerate, and praise God.
>>150769787Go volunteer at a soup kitchen like a good christian instead of posting bait here.
>>150769787Stop being a fucking cunt.
>>150765101>Adam comes back as a sinner.>Lute recognises him.>Adam orders Lute to exterminate him because he's a sinner and that's the job.>Lute does it and then blames Charlie and friends.
>>150769782He'd take over within a week.BUT FIRST HE'S GOING CAMPING
>>150769546Viv has all but said that this is a filler season and the real plot that she actually cares about is in S3.
>>150764352Based bonkle enjoyer.AtC's Gravity was alright too.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6-IvfzRQYHI
>>150769954Camping? No! Fishing? NO!
>>150769827I'm volunteering this weekend to collect donations for charity, as a matter of fact. I have time to do both.
>>150770116Spend your friday volunteering too. If you have time to shitpost you have time to do something more substantial than browbeating people and making them even LESS likely to convert because they're pissed off at you.
>>150769889Is it any wonder that the sodomite, the child abuser, and the pornographer all share common cause? Their only joy is in the destruction of innocence, the tearing down of anything beautiful because it only reminds them of their own ugliness.
>>150770153Random as hell...
>>150770148Why does saying stop being a degenerate provoke such a visceral reaction? That is because the ones who know they do wrong are the ones most unwilling to change. To admit you've deliberately chosen evil and work to change for the better is hard.
>>150769787>>150770116>>150770153Feds larping as Christians will never not be funny...
>>150769458Eggboy getting to go to heaven suggests that Indiscriminate extermination may not be the correct path after all, There is nuance to the situation.presumably theres a midpoint between letting all the demons into heaven and yearly genocide.
>>150770202It hurts to have your darkness exposed. That's why you're flailing now. Anything to keep from admitting in front of God that you were wrong. Let go of your pride.
>>150770153>the sodomite, the child abuser, and the pornographerValentino is obvious, which makes Vox the sodomite, but when has Velvette abused children?
>>150770253You're cringe.
>>150770239Sinners larping as redditors is less funny, more sad. It's okay. God's love is infinite.
>>150770263And you're forgiven in the eyes of God. You don't have to be like this, you only think you do.
>>150770300I will replace God...
>>150770349Pride goeth before the fall.
People make the same mistakes over and over, thinking they're the ones who've discovered what turn out to be basic human truths. Over and over we think we're the only ones who have ever felt this way. Forgive us, Lord, our tresspasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. Amen.
>>150763348Holy shitHazbin Hotel really is the modern RWBY
>>150770373I'll defeat your savior and bring forth a world filled with darkness.
>>150770428You can't even defeat your waistline.
>>150770476You dare to mock me? You filthy vile creature.
The fuck is going on?
>>150770428Just know>>150770428Was not me.
>>150770539Christ is in the chat, and Satan's not having it. YOU BEST BE POPPIN THAT PUSSY FOR JESUS
>>150764207This legit looks more intimate than most sex scenes i see nowadays
>>150770591Oh fuck.
>>150768982>Bro she is just standing next to him. And playing along with him doing everything with him
>>150763348This season looks like its going to go so maniacally hard i can wait to be extremely disappointed by viv mediocre writing
>>150764207And some individuals will still say there was nothing between them.
>>150764946I honestly hope she kills vaggie, I love vaggie and i would genuinely be devastated if she dies but I want to see charlie go full antichrist.
>>150763592You're 100% right. The problem is that you're posting on /co/, the Tumblr refuge.
>>150767637Imagine how stretched that thing is.
Prediction: Lute is the only soul in heaven that gives a shit that Adam is gone and she will turn against heaven.
>>150765648Anyone ever notice how when a character someone doesn't like becomes popular the only criticism is calling the fans self inserters.I notice.
>>150770782Fallen Lute?
It was a missed opportunity to not have Adam just be reborn in hell, for how much Viv says she likes "asshole characters" he is the only one she got right
>>150769458To be completely fair, Adam never had a moral reason to exterminate demons, he did it out of complete spite, which imo he is completely justified at but he is the kind of evil character that accidentally does good.
>>150770827Adam and Lute reuniting in Hell as sinners would be kino. Maybe they make a new Eden (Purgatory) to hang out in rather than deal with Hellshitters.
>>150770827>Fallen lute>Wings burnt >Her mask melts with her face>Does some satanic fuckery to summon adam as a demon>Genocide against heaven and hell begins Kino.
>>150765074>Vivzie>Not being dumb enough
this song just made her like ten times hotterwasn’t even really into her at first but god damnalso a fan how this song just confirms that lute had feelings for adam, and they weren’t just close friends
>>150770690Straddling your bro is purely platonic.
>>150769050Yeaah i liked how prominent Adam’s voice was in the leak, but if Adam’s a figment of Lute’s imagination then his vocals barely being there makes sense
so they're really leaning on making lute the thighs angel?
>>150771077Kissing and deepthroating the hommies good night.
>>150763592TPBP
>>150763348I think Lute has become my favorite character and it's not a super close contest.
>>150763623Adam dick is what made her go crazy to begin with.
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>>150766079
>>150763348There's something about the animation of her wings flaring up as she jumps and draping around her like a shawl when she lets herself fall that I really really like.
>>150763348Lute and Vaggie are my favorite characters, though I wish Vaggie's songs were even half as good as Lute's songs.
>>150771245>smugCute Lute
>>150770923>Lute becomes more demonic and monstrous as she falls further and further>refuses to accept that she's done anything wrong or fallen in the first place>she decides heaven has fallen>and billions must die
>>150771324I like Vaggie, but I think it's odd how in some songs they let the actress use her real singing voice, and others they push for her to keep the deeper character voice.
>>150763348I can't really picture her getting a redemption arc but it will still really bum me out if she dies this season
Who would win? No Lucifer or Adam to save them this time.
>>150771349I'm not sure they have a solid grasp on Vaggie's character. Mostly I'd like to see her figure out who and what the fuck she's supposed to be.
>>150763348Top tier song, but it's a little inadvertently funny to me thinking that Charlie didn't even want to kill Adam and that Niffty is the one who she should actually be pledging revenge on.
>>150771405Charlie has the advantage in raw power, but she's totally unused to using it. If Lute finishes it quickly, she could do it, but if it goes on longer than maybe a couple of attacks, Lute's probably fucked.
>>150763348>AbelI'm not following Hazbin Hotel lore too closely. Is he still the son of Adam/Eve in this show, and has Cain been introduced yet?
>>150771406Yeah, I think that's a casualty of the limited amount of episodes they had to work with. Vaggie had more purpose in the pilot because she was the cynical voice of reason to Charlie's optimism and was fully against working with Alastor. So the pilot ends with Alastor doing everything he can to shove her aside and assure that Charlie doesn't listen to her. But the actual show didn't really have time to foster any conflict between them.Instead they have a song about how Vaggie should be out for love instead of revenge, despite the fact that her issue early on was that all she cared about and defined her worth by was being useful to Charlie.
>>150771429Niffty was operating under Charlie's command and didn't get the order to stand down. In that sense Niffty was like a weapon Charlie armed and never disarmed. Niffty may have ultimately been the one to do it, but Charlie is the one who told her to do it.
>>150763348The only people this song appeals to are Arcane lesbians and Imagine Dragons fans. lmao
>>150771485>Son of AdamYep>Cain introducedNo
>>150771595It was made to appeal to /co/ specifically, yeah.
>>150768858For all the rushed character arcs there are in the show, I actually thought the simplicity was part of what made the dynamic between Lute and Adam interesting. She was a blood hungry zealot driven by nothing but duty, and he was just a loud, cocky jock who treated it all like a game. So the fact that their final scene together actually showcased a brief moment of them breaking out of that mold made it strangely impactful. With Lute breaking down in tears, and Adam using his last moments to quietly smile at her. Either to comfort her, or simply because he was happy that someone cared enough to stay by his side and cry for him at the end. Now he's just a voice in her head, and anything they might have had is projection and grief on her part.
>>150771406Would be nice if they acknowledge how extremely unhealthy codependent she seems to be for Charlie, like both of Vaggie's songs are just about her desire to be Charlie's gf and to fight for her.
>>150771668Their size difference is my fetish.
>>150771765Do you wanna fuck a small girl or get fucked by a big man?
Vaggie basically regrew her wings with the power of love. It would be cool if Lute regrew her arm in a critical moment out of love for Adam, but Vivzie would never let something that based happen.
>>150771885Didn't think about Vaggie's eye, did ya?
>>150771857
>>150771885She should become a fallen angel and regrow it as a demon arm.
>>150771885Would be better if its through the power of hate and she grows a monstrous arm.
>>150771485>>150771599>Cain might not have actually been immortal but his wrathful soul certainly was undying >The moment his time on Earth came to an end, his soul was placed in a deep slumber in the Sloth Ring>Centuries of him dreaming of taking his revenge on the Angels and Demons that left him and his descendants to toil and rot>Woe to those who remain in his path on the day he finally awakes>For the rage of the First Murderer is Unstoppable
>>150771857What if i want to fuck a small girl AND big guy?
Since Adam is canonically the first soul in heaven, unless cain killed Adam instead of Abel, idk how Cain would be handled into the story.
>>150771998Adam made Abel hang around on Earth as a ghost so he can be the first one into heaven because he has to be the first at everything.
>>150771909Vaggie's eye was cut out with angelic steel, while Lute tore her wings off, so regrowing wings is easy but wounds caused by angelic steel might not be able to be healed/regen'd.same with Lute's arm, she tore it off herself, so she probably could regrow it.
I just want to see Lute be a bad bitch!
>>150772061How dare you use canonical info.
>>150772076Sorry for offending you.
>>150771909Only limbs grow back with the power of love. Eyes need to grow back with the power of ennui.
>>150772070I want to see Lute and Charlie going Ass to Ass! ASS TO ASS!
>>150772116Ohhh fun.
Vaggie has nice hips.
>>150763348holy peak, i don't even watch this garbage but I might start.
>>150763348God I love a good villain song
>>150772116>"Oh uh no I'm not with him."
Why didn't she take her schizo meds?
GRAVITY
>>150766079Yes, there's going to be a bunch of dialogue that reminds the audience how badass he is, then he's going job to Vox, and then everyone is going to be like "wow Vox beat alastair he's a serious threat" despite alastair never actually doing anything except losing fights
I don't understand /co/ faggots, why are they always talking about Viviziepop s writing as if she is writing the series alone?I don't think she's even credited for half of the season 1 episodes as a writer lol
>>150773160It's Viv's show and the broad beats are hers. Sometimes a particular writer will have a certain style that is recognizably bad enough to warrant distinguishing, but there haven't been enough episodes to establish a pattern like that, and at the end of the day, Viv does suck.
Why is Lute so pretty??? Geez.
>>150773160Her show her writing, her writers her approval.
>>150769426>lost an arm>hauntedBeing incomplete is a hell of a better theme for a villain than anything Alastor or the Vees have going for them.
>>150773160>creator and showrunner has zero influence on the show she is working on
>>150765732What did Lute see in him?
>>150766723I suppose the body is a weapon if you are using it to harm, and she is an angel. So her body is an angelic weapon. It's probably just an oversight, but my logic is sound.
>>150768858One of the major gripes about season 1 was about how everything seemed to be undercooked given that they only had 8 episodes to work with. Yes, Lute's relationship with Adam was a minute part of season 1 and I can only speculate that the writing team saw how popular the ship was and they devoted extra time to try and keep the hype for it alive for season 2.
>>150773648He makes her laugh.
>>150771315I’m not sure how to feel about the choreography. It feels all over the place? I can see the ideas, Lute’s world turned upside down, glass shattering representing her limits breaking and revenge but it doesn’t feel entirely cohesive
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>>150765747vox is probably getting redeemed based on the songlist emojis
>>150765512>ywn build and paint Warhammer miniatures with AdamWhy live?What faction/army would he pick?
>>150763348>gonna get my hands wetshould've been "get my hands red" would've been way cooler.
>>150774688He seems low IQ enough to be an unironic Ultramarines fan. Either that or Grey Knights for obvious reasons.
>>150774688>build and paint Warhammer miniatures with AdamSounds comfy.
>>150774688Charlie would be a Taufag.Vaggie would play Sisters of Battle for obvious reasons.Alastor would do TyranidsVox strikes me as a Necron guy.Husk calls the hobby dumb and gay,
>>150763348She reminds me of Tangled's Cassandra.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaHBg8E1o00&list=RDiaHBg8E1o00&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZEpNsw6zA&list=RDhkZEpNsw6zA&start_radio=1
So they're never actually going to have Jesus as a character, right?We've got St. Peter which means Jesus should exist, but no way they have the balls
>>150764946Niffty would feel most fitting
>>150774971Of course not, dude.
This show blows but I like seeing the random background characters and all their designs, it’s the only thing that would tempt me to peak at season 2. Also seeing more of Sir Pentious because he’s best boy stuck in a lame series.
>>150774688>friend convinces me and another bud to get into warhammer minis>I'm worried its gonna be just another wasteful fad that we pick up and drop >actually have a nice time putting them togetherIts a pretty relaxing hobby, we're gonna start painting next week.Also Adam strikes me as a guy who will still call them Imperial Guard and refuse their new name, while also shittalking Primaris marines.
>>150774890>”Fuck yeah! Finally…” The sudden noise makes your hand slip, your brush slipping down your Necron’s face, coating part it’s coppery metal paint in black.>Your brow furrows in slight frustration as you turn to the Dickmaster looking over his latest finished piece.>Turning the tiny model of plastic and acrylic paint in his huge fingers, his LED mask holding a look of satisfaction as he admired the yellow and gold paint work he had given it.>You were a bit disappointed that he was basic bitch enough to pick Ultramarines as his first faction.>He also hadn’t quite figured out how to thin his paints, and was a bit sloppy on the finer details.>But you supposed everyone starts out that way. Fixing the stray streak of paint carefully, you sigh, setting your own finished Necron with the rest.>Lute hadn’t really cared to join, she was more invested in reading the Hammer of Daemons novel.>”Pretty Fuckin’ kick ass, right?” Adam asked, gesturing to the other tiny space marines on his side of the table. Looking over the white and gold army the First Man had put together for himself.Yeah pretty neat.>You commented.>”So when does the actual game start?” The much bigger Angel asked, “You said some shit about enough points, so this has gotta be like, an assload of ‘em, right?” Adam inquired.>You looked over the space marines, counting them in your head before opening up the Codex to double check.All of those get you about… 300 points.>Those yellow LEDS blinked.>”That’s like… CLOSE at least, right…?”>You sympathetically shook your head.
>>150774984just seems weird to have St. Peter then, if you're trying to avoid stepping on toesbecause you're implying the existence of Christianity already and then just being a pussy about where Jesus is
>>150775030The show doesn't even acknowledge God, brother.
>>150775030Hazbin just operates off a general Gnostic rule-of-cool. St. Peter is there because they needed somebody at the gates and he's the guy who does that.
>>150774688Exclusively dark eldar girls. Lute is definitely in to Blood Ravens>>150763519she lost the man she loves.From what we see she doesn't fit in among the denizens of heaven. She was created to do a dirty job none of them will stoop to, Adam was literally the only soul in heaven that understood and accepted her for what she was because in a way he was in the same boat.>>150771668>She was a blood hungry zealot driven by nothing but duty, and he was just a loud, cocky jock who treated it all like a game.She was created to lead an police force in hell, it's not really duty when it is the reason you were created, thats why she is an outcast among the rest of heaven; it's like being the town executioner.As for Adam he was a lot more serious than he let on, don't forget it was him that often made Lute show restraint and it was him that planned the raid. He was the the one just doing his duty, Serah made him do the dirty work but it was her will; in a way Adam is just the kid from the rich family who does as he's told and enjoys the thrill of whatever job he's given, he would have just as happily accepted any other high ranking position, if he was put in charge of entertaining winners with music he would have been just as happy.
I'm glad Vox gets the focus this season. His voice actor absolutely kills it.
>>150763348by the end I was rooting for the angels, seeing what hell is like they are completely justified in purges, if anything it was a far more merciful than hell deserves.I doubt Viv is doing it on purpose but Lute is more sympathetic than any of the "hero" cast
>>150775051> in a way Adam is just the kid from the rich family who does as he's told and enjoys the thrill of whatever job he's given, he would have just as happily accepted any other high ranking position, if he was put in charge of entertaining winners with music he would have been just as happy.I gotta disagree a little bit here. Adam clearly likes the executions more than he would just being a singer or some paper-pusher in heaven even if he was high-ranked. He's the first man, THE man, he's got that masculine impulse in him to fight and let out some violence (especially on people who, as far as he's concerned, 100% deserve it)
>>150775030Jesus has been referenced a few times in HB actually.Blitzo's catchphrase is "Christ on a stick" and you see crosses on the angels.
Heaven should be pretty concerned that a D-Tier demon with a whipstitched power set, who's not even his own boss, managed to pressure their #1 Guy
Vivzie was raised Protestant, right? She probably didn't feel that St. Peter was that big of a deal to use.
>>150775123It really isn't that big of a deal I'm just being nitpicky
>>150774911>Charlie would be a TaufagThat or League of Votann now that Squats are canon again and are basically "the Imperium but with none of it's problems"
>>150774688>Lute: Adepta Sororitas Seraphim
>>150763465I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING! PROVOKING! BLACK CLOUDS IN ISOLATION!
>>150765517But it's funny when people completely screw themselves over without even realizing what they've done until it's far too late.
>>150775099I am not saying he doesn't enjoy his job just that he would still be happy doing something else and that leading the anti hell force wasn't something he tied himself to, it was just a job to him.From what we see music, food, and sex was far more his passion than violence.>THE man, he's got that masculine impulse in him to fight and let out some violence I am not as certain about that, he is the original man and he named most of gods creatures. HB might have retconned it but in the source material he's not really a violent person, he was created to live in a world without conflict, being sent to a world with conflict was a punishment. He's a daddies boy who got tricked by a woman in to betraying his fathers will.Don't forget, he's been alive far longer than any other man, I don't think mortals are meant to stick around that long. On some level he either went insane or became a nihilistic due to living beyond mans expiration date, his job was just a way to pass the time. We only really see him get heated when it came to the morningstars and thats likely due to a personal vendetta.He says it himself in his first song, it's just entertainment.>>150775147The only part of the Sororitas she wouldn't be in to is that they don't have a men, I feel like she would want a faction where she can pretend that she can be with Adam
>>150766784doubtful, you never really make up with your ex wife, especially after a divorce as messy as theirs was.From what we know Lilith is as selfish as women come, he would make a deal with her for the sake of his job but with their history he would keep her only close enough that he could see the knife coming.
>>150774931Will she get away with everything like Cass?
>The exorcist’s angelic blades sang through the air, severing Cain’s head in a flash of divine fury. His body collapsed—then twitched.>Silence.>Then, with eerie calm, the headless corpse rose to its feet, staggering forward like a nightmare refusing to end. It bent down, picked up its own head, and held it aloft.>Cain’s eyes snapped open, glowing with ancient malice. He turned to the exorcist and smirked.>“Well... that was rude.”>With a sickening crunch, he reattached his head. Flesh knitted. Bones fused. The grin never left his face.>“Now,” he said, cracking his neck like thunder, “let’s make this fun.”
>>150775330Do you mean Charlie or Vaggie? in that case maybe.Lute? Not a chance. Lute has already lost everything she was living for and only wants revenge now. She lost her arm, her man, and heaven won't even back her for getting justice for Adams death, Serah just brushes off Adams death and her sacrifice like it was nothing and all of heaven moves on without much thought. Even if she gets revenge it will be a Pyrrhic victory for her.
if Alastor had been using an angelic weapon he could've killed Adam
>>150766802rewatch the fight scene, they all have some manner of glowing angelic metal on them.every cherri's bombs explosions were glowing yellow instead of the usual red
>>150775530>If and when but never isHe truly is Potential Demon.
>>150775669It's not like he didn't have access to angelic weaponry, since everyone else didHe was clearly not using it out of pride
>>150775030They also have Islam since you can see some hiyabs here and there
>>150763348Lawbros, we're so fucking back
What if…….Lute fell from Heaven, became a Demon but ended up with Demon Adam?
>Television, Pornography, and Social Media all united>All have names that actually start with V>The Vees>......ask Alastor to join for some reason>name does NOT start with V>is Radio, and old-timey AM Radio at thatwhy'd Vox even offer to let him join the team?
>>150775800>why'd Vox even offer to let him join the team?Better to have him inside pissing out than outside pissing in.
>>150771595>Arcane lesbiansThe song is about her feelings for a big chuddy man?
>>150775800He would have been renamed Venison or something like that
>>150775800radio used to be a big deal and now its not they literally had a whole song about it
>>150776033not even really sure where the deer antlers or the shadow stuff or any of his powers come from reallythe ones that have nothing to do with radioguessing he just stole them, or got them in deals?
Will Hazbin unironically save RADIO?
Imagine if Viv had the balls to kill Vaggie to give Charlie a proper reason to hate heaven and set up the superior Charlie & Emily pairing.
Remind me again what happened in season 1? All I remember is Adam's song, some cannibals and then there was a big stupid battle at the end.
>>150763348I don't like it. Not as catchy as Poison or Addict. Closed it half way when I couldn't feel the pattern for the melody.
>>150776264Vaggie's VA SUCKS so I'm all for this
>>150776280Not every song can be about a slutty spider
>>150776280You have bad taste, please seek help.
>>150776062It's Louisiana Bayou Vodoo shit, man. The Wendigo, the Shadow Man. That's where Alastor is from when he was alive, he was a serial killer. He sold his soul BEFORE he died.
>>150763348Solid skeletonneeds more Adam meat
>>150776062The deer motif is probably because some deer have been known to be cannibals, and also because of the irony of a serial killer taking on traits from a prey species.
>>150776406also skinwalkers
>>150774931Both Jessia Vosk and Eden Espinosa were Elphabas in Wicked, so it checks out. Both characters are hopeless in their love quest, too.
>>150769199Hello, Based Department?
>>150776411And probably not a reference to Cernunnos/the Horned God because Alastor doesn't have the requisite libido.
>>150776429My impression is that he just absorbed a lot of different powers from the Overlords he knocked off, or through making dealsMy pet theory (read: headcanon) is that his original deal was.....to gain the ability to make deals himself He probably wants Charlie's soul so he can ransom it to Lucifer, to get out of his deal, appealing to a higher power so to speak
>>150776440Or maybe he wants to manipulate Charlie into taking out his creditor because she's the second-strongest person in Hell and easier to manipulate than her dad.
My only complaint is that there's not enough of Adam's voice in the song.The little bits that are there are very good and made me wish for more.
>>150767574Best boy has his shit under lock
>>150776463also possible
>>150776280ThisRespectless, hell is forever, and stayed gone all mog this shit villain song
>>150776440It was to be thr strongest sinner. And the dumbfuck thought that meant he could solo Adam, someone that's not a sinnerI wonder if rosie really is lilith. It's a plothole if she isn't, yet can grant someone that much power
>Ah, I see you have a used up porn slut undergoing a mental breakdown on your balcony>I'll just talk to you later
>>150776512People give him too much shit for losing to AdamWhat's more important is:>he survived>he actually put up a decent fight>he wasn't even using angelic weapons despite having access to them
>>150776512>It's a plothole if she isn't, yet can grant someone that much powerWell being the Cannibal Town lady, I assume the power she'd grant would be the ability to "cannibalize" other demons and take their shit. That explains Alistor perfectly.The only problem is getting that snowball rolling.
>>150770222You better not be a manlet the Bibble explicitly forbids them from places of worship
>>150776543to be fair pre-flood humans were tall as fuckis that why Adam is?
>>150776512>I wonder if rosie really is lilith.So who's the Lilith that Lute was talking to on the beach?
>>150776590Rosie
>>150766544Come at her from her left, she has a blindspot.
>>150776533I'm not giving him shit for losingI'm giving him shit for a) assuming being the strongest Sinner meant he could beat Adam and b) not using angelic steel when he knew only that could actually permanently harm him>>150776590Eve. Which fits seeing as Abel has blond hair
>>150776647>being the strongest Sinnerhe's not even close though
>>150776550Honestly, that's a really cute interpretation, it would fit cleanly and make a lot of sense. I like it.
>>150776668Nothing in s1 shows he isnt
>>150776698I guess it is kind of cute? But it's also just biblical, going by the generic gnostic (almost kabbalistic) interpretation they seem to be working with. Considering Lilith even exists at all.In that case his full name would be Adam Kadmon
>>150776719Did you really get the sense from his interactions with Zestial that they were anything less than peers?
>>150776607But she's in Hell.
>>150776739Hell is actually Heaven
>>150776733Not wanting a fight with zestial doesnt mean he though he'd lose. He assumed he could beat Adam, no way did Alastor think zestial was too strong for him.It's just as likely rosie told him some overlords were off limits
>>150770822it's cuz this place has the most adam stans and sympathisers compared to other places where the hazbin hotel fandom is, where they just think he's an annoying sexist prick, and considering the demographic and personality of 4chan's anons and all the lute thirsting
>>150776533I'm not giving him shit for losing, I'm giving him shit for singing a cope song about it afterwards.Imagine being so mindbroken you come up with a song about your own assbeating lmao
>>150776733alastor certainly sees himself as their equalsbut the other overlords treat him as only roughly their level, since all of them have trouble bad mouthing him alastor is more than a little upset that they didnt think him all that much while he is awaywhich is probably his defining character trait, pridehe needs to be the center of attention and thinks of himself as a lot more powerful than he actually is, he was willing to talk crap straight to lucifers face despite the obvious power difference between them
>>150768525>RevealShe literally says being gay is wicked and immoral in season 1.
>>150769458The lack of exploring this annoys me more than the obvious plothole of Vaggie missing an eye and just forgetting angels can be harmed. I get you can write it off as Charlie is Hellborn so she has never experienced Earth and is thus naive, but there is literally a town of cannibals who only sign up to kill and eat angels. Evil victimizes, for every sin that lands you in Hell there is a victim. Like, Heaven is most likely full of children that were killed or worse and having Charlie just be like "but their abusers are genuinely sorry" ignores the whole angle of why eternal damnation is necessary. Imagine if you're a groomer and you know that Hell exists but you can just be repentant and get into Heaven anyway.Also, if Adam shows up in Hell, let's face it he will, it means people that are in Heaven can go to Hell, which means a child abuser can go to Heaven and just relapse.
>>150777049sex with chagganon will be here redemption
>>150770248>presumably theres a midpoint between letting all the demons into heaven and yearly genocide.charlie doesnt want all demons to go into heaven and she never said she wanted thatshe wanted to prove that people stuck in hell can become better and redeem themselves and then be able to go to heavenadam doesnt bother to even check if redemption is possible, he doesnt even know why he is in heaven his logic is that people did bad things to go to hell, therefore we are justified in doing anything we want to them including genocide because they are in hellthe flaw in his logic becomes apparent when people in hell are capable of being better and potentially being able to earn a spot in heaven, clearly wanton genocide is no longer morally justified but he isnt able or willing to adjust his views to accommodate that
>>150777173And that's a bad idea because a relapse would destroy Heaven. People can be genuinely repentant, go to Heaven and then run into the person they brutalized to get into Hell day 1. Clearly Vivzieplop is just holding out on the revelation of what she personally thinks redemption means so she can milk the series for 10 seasons and maybe get Weird Al to play God, but we now know demons can get into Heaven regardless and angels can probably go to Hell too. But if I was a little boy that was left in a ditch and I ran into Billy the Kid who killed me in Heaven I would have some issues with that.
>>150777223>People can be genuinely repentant, go to Heaven and then run into the person they brutalized to get into Hell day 1then by this logic, people who did crimes on earth could never go to heaven either regardless of repentance because they might bump into a victimwhich, applying adams logic, would also mean destroying earth
>>150777111Tbh I have two big hangups with Viv's writing that don't relate to the usual criticism (shitfuck dialogue and daddy issues), it's the fact that she's a huge coward. That's it. She lacks balls and audacity.Firstly, why the fuck would you want to tackle something as complex as forgiveness and redemption for sinners if you're unwilling to showcase and humanize the worst that humanity has to offer (that fun fact about how scum like nazis and pedos don't last long in hell because they immediately get jumped is the most cope-out bullshit i've ever heard)?Second, are we ever going to go over the fact that victims in heaven will have to potentially face their murderer/rapist/abuser one day? Imagine being tortured and cut into pieces by a cartel member or being raped and prostituted by an adult as a child and you can't even enjoy eternal rest anymore because your tormentor has decided that they are a good person now. Or is that plot point too uncomfortable for her?
>>150765641>fears adamHe fears a "power" that can hurt him.Which for adam was holy.But could mean other things.(I saw the old spoilers, and know who)
>>150777265Well we know thst isn't the case but I still agree, if you sodomize a boy you probably shouldn't go to Heaven ever regardless of where you do it.The kinder thing to do in this world given its established rules would be to just erase sinners from existence on death.
>>150777269>and you can't even enjoy eternal rest anymore because your tormentor has decided that they are a good person nowif they really are a good person now, then you have an eternity to talk with them and put the trouble caused in life to rest
>>150777284>if you sodomize a boy you probably shouldn't go to Heaven ever regardless of where you do it.this also goes against the catholic teaching of gods infinite capacity for forgivenessonly god knows who is and isnt worthy of salvation and for any mortal to say they know what can cause eternal damnation is himself committing the sin of pride, in believing themselves to be the ultimate arbiter of who is and isnt worthy of salvation
>>150777291If they really are a good person now it doesn't matter because we have established that people in Heaven are not benevolent by nature and can relapse. This is also such a cop out, if I was in Heaven and my abuser showed up and people were just like "talk it out" my first question would be "why is somebody who fucked kids allowed eternal paradise, because they are sorry?" Maybe they should have gone to purgatory instead, or if Hell is really that bad let them be erased, surely being erased or reborn with no memory is a better alternative to eternal damnation thst also acknowledges that they don't deserve eternal life in paradise.
>>150777318Of course Catholics believe people who sodomize children still deserve eternal paradise.
>>150777346that is a core teaching of catholicism, that no one is outside redemptionjesus takes pity on everyone, even/especially criminals, and those are the people he preached toanyone who gets on their high horse about anyone else getting into heaven is a hypocrite at best, no one is blameless, everyone is a sinner, but the lord has an infinite capacity to forgiveto have no forgiveness for someone is therefore to reject god
>>150777389A core teaching of Catholicism is also that Hell is forever, otherwise it becomes impotent as a threat because you have forever to get into Heaven instead of just your mortal life.
>>150777417>is also that Hell is forever,and god alone knows who goes there or not and no human has the capacity to know who does or doesnt get there without invoking the sin of pridethose who enter purgatory can enter heaven if they repentant after deaththe fact that sir pentious can go to heaven means that, despite the show taking place in hell, it does fit the role of purgatory instead
>>150765648At this point they're self-inserting onto Michael who isn't a proven character in the show. Adam fans are definitely weird though.
>>150777389>Yeah man, I'm sure victims like Junko Furuta, who suffered some of the most horrific and sadistic death imaginable at the hands of their tormentors, should forgive because they were also carrying blame. Otherwise they are as monstrous as their abusers.That's how you're sounding right now.
>>150777439No I agree that show is cearly operating on some undefined rules, I am saying that those rules are bad and that in a reality where A) people have an eternity to get into Heaven and B) People are aware tgey have an eternity to get into Heaven there would be a significant rise in evil as people would stop fearing for their immortal soul. Hell in the Hellaverse has also established that Hell is the punishment and that once in Hell there isn't really eternal torture which there is in Christian Hell either which is why most demons in Hazbin Hotel fuxking love being in Hell because they have an eternity to engage in sin.
>>150777518theres literally a parable about iteven if you waste all of what god has given you, if you return to god and ask for forgiveness, you will get ithumility is the number one virtuethis means not being afraid to ask for forgivenessbut it also means being able to give forgiveness to those who ask
>>150777557Right, unless you are in Hell.
>>150777557But it the end, that still fucks over the victims doesn't it?Seriously, what is point of acting as good and virtuous as you realistically can during your earthly life, stuff like not giving up hope and resisting temptation, if some random fuck can literally ruin your life in one single day, only to get the same end as you if he's feeling sorry enough about it? Might as well stop giving a fuck and embrace hedonism if there is no point.
It will be really funny if all of this ends in Charlie just inventing purgatory, which I don't think has been acknowledged to exist in this setting yet.
>>150777596eternal damnation is only reserved for those who die in a state of mortal sin, where they reject gods forgiveness regardless of the eternity they havea state of mortal sin being impossible for non-omniscient beings to know, so there is no logical way to know someone is beyond redemption until judgement day
>>150777557Hazbin Hell is not based on real Hell, it is a mish mash of Paradise Lost Hell, Divine Comedy Hell and Lesser Key of Solomon Hell with some Christian Hell loosely thrown in.
>>150774911These characters are all faggots and dumbass theater kids who would see the wargaming hobby as either too complicated, cringy, nerdy or even problematic because of lore not being ultrapolitically correct, also they're as their creator, so fuck'em demons, also, How is the boring ass lapdog bitch traitor gonna be picking the army of space nuns that is basically super devoted and zealous to their God who is basically a space genocidal black hair Fabio Lanzoni?, Are you high or something?
>>150777657Pretty good, buddy
>>150777673So is Charlie like, actually Eve in this
>>150777647There are multiple bible verses thst explicitly state that Hell is forever.
>>150777631>only to get the same end as you if he's feeling sorry enough about it?this is literally what the prodigial son is aboutthe older son getting pissed that the younger son is welcomed back into the family when he comes crawling backbut also in that same parable, the elder has nothing to complain about, he is going to heaven and he is going to be eternally happyhe was a good person and he is getting rewarded for itthe only thing harder than asking for forgiveness is to give it, which you are proving right by showing the myriad of situations you might not give itwhich is expected, forgiveness is very hard and you are only human
>>150777690hell is forever, but the catholic church doesnt pretend to know who is and isnt going there and anyone who says they do is lying or deludedthe fact that people can escape hell, or even desire to change their ways, makes hazbin-hell closer to purgatory than actual hellbecause hell is reserved for people who will never even think of repenting, and we as humans cant actually know who will never do so
>>150777709Catholics don't believe in birth control because they want more kids to exist so they can fuck them, fuck you.
>>150777673Charlie in this verse kind of looks like a villain straight out of a northern/eastern european children's book. Or is it just me?>>150777692Does the sinner has to face some sort of trial to complete their redemption, or is God's forgiveness the only necessary thing? Does it depends on the denomination?
>>150777684The fucking AntiChrist, she's an evil, scheming bitch, just like her creator
>>150777709Hazbin Hell is not based on any real interpretation of Hell. Lucifer is Paradise Lost Lucifer and Hell is only divided into circles in the Inferno which also is not the bible.
If the leaks about Lute killing Lucifer are right these threads are going to be even more unbearable until Viv inevitably brings him back
>>150777652>real Helllel
>>150777740If the Eve/Roo leak is real, I would prefer her to end him as the final revenge, for her but also for humanity since they are in this mess because of his manipulation and stupid idea.
>>150777805I'd rather Lucifer not die desu. I don't hate him like these threads do. Actually I think he's one of the few good things about this show.
>>150777740He comes back as an imp.
>>150777849Would be cute ngl. Charlie can carry him around.
>>150777740sounds huge if true; source?
>>150777865I have no source but awhile ago it was consistently included with all off the legit leaks. But it did briefly change to Vox kills him instead so who knows.
>>150777858Blitzø becomes the new King of Hell through sheer dumb luck and fucks it all up in a week tops.
>>150777879ok so lute kills lucifer, carmila kills lute, vox (and vees?)kill themselves. alastor villain arc is endgame?
>>150777985>carmila kills luteWhere does this come from
>>150777985>vox (and vees?)kill themselvesJesus, surely working in media isn't THAT stressful.
>>150777805I feel like that'd be a shitty cop out to try and explain why the very powerful being doesnt simply solve everything. Not to mention extra shitty if it happens right after he finally fixes the relationship It's also cowardly that they'd do it to him and not an actual core cast member. To to mention how retarded the writing would have to be for that to happen
>>150777985Valentino is going to end up having to set Angel free in exchange for somebody not killing Valentino or something. I'm fully expecting a duet between him and Angel at some point too.
>>150778060It would be really funny if Angel Dust goes "Wait a minute, I'm friends with the princess of Hell" and just lets Charlie deal with Valentino.
>>150778079If Vivzie wasn't so incompetent I would know better than to expect things like this addressed instead of the plot kind of just meandering according to whatever vibes she wants it to portray, I'd act surprised Angel Dust didn't immediately do this after his little street singalong.
>>150772860Meds are for LOSERSSS
>>150777173Heaven and Hell have been around for how many millennia? And in that time no one has been redeemed until Pentious. It's not Adam's job to check if redemption is actually possible especially when there's been a precedent set since the beginning of time. Sera's the one who should've been more responsible, but I don't even blame her. Hell overpopulates, the people there are genuinely evil and threaten Heaven (she was correct, see Vox) and what the fuck can you do about it other than snip the problem at its root? If there's anyone to blame, it's Lucifer. Sinners aren't given a reason to change because Hell isn't actually punishment, they can continue being terrible people (and arguably become even worse) because Lucifer, being the prideful retard he is, saw nothing wrong with what he did and refuses to take any responsibility by accepting his own punishment and actually running Hell the way it ought to be. If unavoidable, brutal punishment for your actions is what awaited you in the afterlife, then I can I sure as shit bet you there'd be more sinners wanting to repent. As it stands though, they can get away continuing to be shit people with no consequences to their actions due to Lucifer being a cry-baby pussy. The only, unfortunate, option left is a permanent one then, which is what Adam delivers.
>>150778079>>150778185Angel told Charlie to stay out of it in season 1 but they've also implied if not outright stated that people in general don't have respect for the Morningstars except maybe Lilith.
>>150775461>justice for Adams deathWhat do you think justice is?
>>150777657why does she have the tf2 logo on her eye
>>150777223>I would have some issues with that.What makes you think you'd be allowed into Heaven before working through issues like that?
>>150778852Because she's an eyelet. I also wonder if she's Charlie's in this timeline.
>>150777518>Otherwise they are as monstrous as their abusers.The standard is perfection, which no one can meet on their own. If someone refuses the guidance of Jesus to hold on to hatred, that's a problem.
>>150777718>becauseBecause it separates the procreative aspect of sex from the rest of it, which has negative personal and social consequences.
>>150777879Then it's not a "leak". It's a rumor.
>>150769458I don't know why people act like this is some giant gaping problem with the show and not their own penchant for punishment. Chances are that not everyone in hell is a mustache twirling one dimensional evil fuck, and lumping them in with your average evil schmuck like all their crimes are equal means you're including them in what is blatantly just genocide. It's such one dimensional thinking and engaging with the show in a dishonest way
>>150778185>>150778559I mean it makes sense why he didn't do that, gaslighting him into thinking that no one can save him is a classic abuser move. Valentino knows damn well that Charlie could fucking wreck him if she wasn't so damn nice, and he knows that he's screwed if Angel realizes that.
>>150779083I agree with your sentiment but it would certainly help if some of the core cast were more relatively normal people who potentially had one bad day and ended up in Hell despite everything. I get the feeling that this will be the case for Niffty at least. There was also the teacher from HB but I guess she shouldn't be counted since she's technically from another show.
>>150779204>one bad day>the teacher from HBShe had a bad day, but she had a preexisting bad character. Otherwise she wouldn't have chosen murder-suicide as the way to deal with the bad day.
>>150766008https://youtu.be/mwBLMMpMGAkhttps://youtu.be/wYrMuaTP1to
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