I've been reading Claremont's X-Men. His early stuff is rough with the endless thought balloons. It has really picks up after the Brood saga though. I'm up to just after Lifedeath Pt 1. The only problem is the crossover stuff with The New Mutants. I've heard TNM is good and an essential read, but I don't really want to juggle books. I've heard I can pretty much go up until Inferno with just Uncanny, but it is kind of annoying where some issues end with "read the conclusion of this story in a different series".

>>150813652
Prophet which is great.
Parker Thunderbolts, also great
New favorite: Rain Like Hammers by Brandon Graham

>>150813652
Dropped a bunch of stuff lately. I'm either falling out of love with comics, or my taste is getting more refined.

>>150813652
I am rereading death metal by scott snyder.

>>150813652
Absolute Batman

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>>150813652
Re-reading ASM. It really picks up once Ditko leaves and some of the fan letters are funny.

I read the newest Justice League Unlimited and it fucking made 0 sense. The dialogue is jacked. The panel layout is jacked. I was following it easily until this last issue. I couldn't tell what the fuck was going on and the dialogue was so disjointed, I was shaking my head in disbelief 8 pages in. Can anyone explain it to me or was it just obtuse on purpose? Overall I was really enjoying it. The art is excellent. I've never been filtered by a comic book and it's embarrassing as fuck

Finished Marshal Law, working on Bringing Up Father right now.

The first three Marshal Law stories (1-6, Takes Manhattan, Kingdom of the Blind) definitely get a star on the reading list. Great art and dialogue. Ending of Manhattan was 10/10.

>>150813652
Savage Sword of Conan and Scourge of the Serpent

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>>150813652
Started reading Valerian and Laureline, yesterday was The Empire of a Thousand Planets. The first two volumes weren't bad but I feel this was the first one where the concept really grapped true shape.

>>150814790
As in growing out of the type of comic you're reading or growing out of the medium

Been reading hellboy

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>>150816704
Yeah the first story doesn't really deliver on the premise like the volumes from Thousand Planets onward do. Pic related is a pretty good too

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>>150813652
Honestly pretty good stuff. Volume 1 was solid, and volume 2 was a step down, but still good.

I read essential iron man vol 1. Which sadly below average and only ever hitting the heights of average. Pepper Potts and happy are the worst supporting characters they never do anything, and it also has the most forced love triangle. Crimson dynamo could've been a cool support character, being a Russian ex villian, they decided to kill him off immediately.
I also think it's funny how a lot of plots revolve around Tony might lose funding from the government. All the other marvel heroes having more personal problems in stories but his is losing funding to build weapons.
Ya everyone said it was rough, and it was. I did like the 4 parter at the end with titanium man tho.

>>150817276
Iron Man never really hits the heights that a lot of Thor and Cap runs do, but definitely gets better once you hit the bronze age. Still rarely better than just good
>>150816723
Which stories?

>>150816458
I stopped after the first three because I liked them. I'm not really interested in the zombie stuff or the crossovers.

>>150816720
Types. I love the medium. I'm sort of going through classics right now and I've been dropping them.
I'm hanging onto Ditko Spider-Man because I told myself I would finish it for the history (of comics, not of Spider-Man) and I really like Ditko's art. I'm otherwise not enjoying it.

>>150813652
Still going through old Defenders alongside Dr. Strange. I’m up to Roger Stern in the latter and still with Matteis and the Over-Mind in the former.

I’m questioning both at the moment. It’s hard not to feel like Stern just shoved Clea off-screen so Strange could fuck his writer OC. I really dislike the direction things are going with Morgana Blessing— Dr. Strange’s own apprehension is the main thing keeping me convinced there might be a reason for this beyond Stern being petty. Hoping things get better because issue #56 wasn’t stellar.

Defenders is interesting, but I hesitate to say it’s good? It kind of lost me with four straight comics of random fucking twists. Kyle dies and it’s a big deal, then Val gets shot in the back and it gets like one page of mourning. Then Val comes back to life, and actually dying was a good thing because it made her 6 feet tall and actually Asgardian again, and also Kyle isn’t dead but he’s in an alternate reality. This alternate reality gets an ENTIRE COMIC’s worth of exposition explaining that the Squadron Supreme were brainwashed by their reality’s Kyle and took over the world.
Except that Kyle was actually a cloned(?) duplicate, shot dead by a glowie fed that drove his girlfriend insane, and also that girlfriend is now multiple different people in one body that is now possessing the Over-mind. Also the Over-mind was evil, but actually wasn’t, and is now a Defender or something.
I’m enjoying it in a sort of rollercoaster fashion. It’s a lot of confusing bullshit that’s written sincerely enough to be endearing, but it’s bordering on mindless thrills and I am completely fucking lost as to the direction Matteis wants to go in here. I think he’s trying to be serious, given how he’s handling these concepts, but that’s all I’m certain of because things are really incoherent otherwise.
I’m enjoying it, basically, but probably not as it was intended to be enjoyed.

>>150818847
NTA, I find that I get really tired of cape comics every few years. I stop reading them and then a year or two later I get the itch again.
Right now, for example, I'm not interested in them at all.

>>150818511
>Doesn't like Ditko Spider-Man
Not everyone can have taste, it's okay

>>150819267
oops, meant for >>150818511

>>150819267
It happens to me as well, but the itch is immediately gone when I actually read something. I've made peace with the genre at this point, and I realize I'm not going to like most of what it has to offer.
>>150819269
It's funny to me that you think you have good taste.

>>150818096
Knowing what I do now, I think that's the perfect place to stop.

>>150819267
I haven’t been into them long enough to say definitively, but I know what you mean in terms of “the itch.”

Question: do you tend to hold comics to the same standards as novels/movies or do you have a separate set of criteria? My standards for comics are pretty low (good art, fun execution of a satisfying plot, in-character action) so I’ve been having a nonstop blast with stuff from the 60s til the 80s.

>>150820128
NTA but I hold comics to a higher standard than most, though I don't expect full-fledged works of art. I love the medium, and I want it to be as good as possible, but I also primarily seek entertainment from comics. If it's not entertaining, I don't want it. Of course, there are different forms of entertainment. I don't expect a superhero story to be terribly challenging (which is entertaining to me), or for an autobiography to be action-packed.
I think comics from the 80s are well-balanced, and I have many favorites from that decade, though I'm not as fond of what came before.

>>150813652
Nothing right now.

Ever since RCO broke for my mobile reader and I got too broke to pay for comics again I haven't been reading much but I need to get back on it soon

I've gone back to slowly making my way through Marvel. Just started 1964, last few comics I've read were ASM#8 (the Living Brain issue), Tales of Suspense #49 (Angel goes crazy and Iron Man has to stop him) and Avengers #3 (Namor teams up with Hulk).

>>150813981
>It has really picks up after the Brood saga though
Motherfucker. Everyone told me the Byrne saga was the best X-Men ever got. That shit stunk, so I gave up. Now I have to keep going.

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>>150813652
>Bendis and PAD
I didn't realize what I signed up for, but yeah, there's no turning back.

>>150820128
I definitely look for different things in all three mediums, but at the same time my tastes are broad. Like I enjoyed [Spoiler]Gravity's Rainbow[/spoiler] but I find just as much satisfaction in something like Little Dorrit, Conan, Salem's Lot or Feersum Endjinn.
I'm a tough nut to crack when it comes to moving pictures, honestly. I'm just not a movie guy. There's a joke around my house that when I die I'll be stuck in purgatory until I watch the entirety of every series and movie I've dropped part way in. I'll be there a long fucking time.
When it comes to comics, I'm all over the road. I'll read arty stuff as readily as a cape comic. I'll read stuff I'm not even enjoying to the bitter end. Some of this is probably because I'm an artist and there's nearly always something to be learned from the art, even if it's something as simple as "don't fucking do that."

Was reading the Milestone Compendium vol. 1, going about midway thru the second batch of Hardware issues. Been enjoying the whole Milestone run a lot. But now I made a detour and re-read LOSH Great Darkness Saga and now I'm halfway thru the The Curse paperback (which I bought years ago but had never cracked open). I'm digging LoSH a lot, planning on reading all the way thru 5YL and maybe beyond. I know that run is very controversial but I'm looking forward to it.

>>150821330
Byrne has to be one of the most overrated creators in comics, especially his X-Men work. He has two classic X-Men stories (Dark Phoenix and Days of Future Past), but that's about it.
Most of what people think of as quintessential parts of X-Men was established WAY after he left (Magneto's backstory, Wolverine in Japan, Rogue, Sabertooth, Mister Sinister, Lady Deathstrike, Morlocks, etc)

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>>150816319
Old letters can be very sobering

>>150821618
I don't understand the need to consume secondary media.

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>>150813652
i am reading the Infinity series in Marvel. mind you I never watch the movies and don't really care about Hollywood at all.

That being said, the art and the writing are fun and intense. In my opinion this is a great example of what comics can be.

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>>150816378
i felt that way about this moon knight run. i could barely follow anything. great art, though.

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>>150822663
>. mind you I never watch the movies and don't really care about Hollywood at all.
See that you don't, the movies are tragically boring

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Annihilation Conquest. I didn't get the Omnibus version because I had to two old hardcover trades

>>150822748
To be fair, so is the comic.

>>150823412
>Look ma, I'm special

>>150822663
Reading this after watching IW made me realize just how less interesting the MCU is. Even on it's hayday it was just a watered down version of the source material which yes, is on the nature of adaptations, but the films sometimes do it to the point of caricaturization.

>>150823857
Thanos Quest is better.

>>150822579
Sometimes they're fun

Batman Dark Patterns. That's that good shit. Only negative is they made the batman underwear shorts. Stop that. Stop doing that.

>>150824327
>underwear shorts
What should he wear instead?

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>>150813652
I've been re-reading the Fabian Nicieza run of "Thunderbolts" to see if I like it better this time. But it's the same reaction as before: it's impressive that Nicieza managed to keep the book going so long after Kurt Busiek stopped writing it, but the whole Scourge storyline just loses me with the constant twists and shock deaths and conspiracies and reveals, to the point that there's very little character development that goes on any more (the exceptions are Zemo and Techno, the only two characters who were totally villainous in the Busiek run and therefore had room to develop).

Also the big twist with Abe/Mach-1 would get them court-martialed today, but even though it's not politically correct it still doesn't work for me. He can't actually deal with the question of whether Songbird is still attracted to him with his new face or not, so it just kind of puts their relationship into a permanent holding pattern. Cape comics really shouldn't be raising issues that they can't deal with.

>>150818847
Someone said that DeMatteis was the last gasp of the 1970s Marvel style in 1980s Marvel, since the actual 1970s writers (Claremont, Englehart, Mantlo, even Gerber when he returned) were not as crazy as they had been. DeMatteis is young but he wants to do balls-to-the-wall insanity like revealing that Satan and God are the same person.

Soon after this batch of stories they began the long slow process of retooling it into "New Defenders," so maybe the succession of new twists/retooled characters/new characters are a sign of a book that's nearing cancellation numbers.

>>150813652
Just finished the first Conan the Barbarian Omni, on to the second. Bought the first 2 Savage Sword Omnis as well because they were as cheap as I'd seen them.

I love seventies art, it's peak aesthetic imo.

>>150817276
It's sort of funny how different early Iron Man is from what he became. I feel Tony has the most change between his first appearance and even like 2 years later, and especially the character now. No beam weapons, no flying, it's all magic resistors!

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>>150813652
>Pick up random webcomic because the main girl looks hot (not pic)
>isn't half bad
>art is fine if a bit simplistic, but charming
>Action is very fun
>Fun banter
>Solid Drama
BUT
>Webtoon
>Can't finish reading because the coin shit walling me and it will take until the end of the year for them to unlock
>Isn't available anywhere else
>author hasn't said anything about continuing it
I know it's basically discount Kekkai Sensen, but i still like it a lot. Inker, i beg you, continue We Are 101.

>>150822579
Curiosity.

>>150822078
Even the OG Brood Saga was better than anything Byrne worked on, imo.

>>150824044
All of the build u, including the stuff in Silver surfer is better than IG.
>>150826166
CtB is good, but I think you'll find that Savage Sword is better once it gets rolling, which is in pretty short order, really.

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I re-read some comics by jaxon.

>>150826936
Yeah, everyone has said that SS is the stronger of the two, which is why I bought those first 2 Omnis instread CtB 3. I'd like to get them all at some point, I'm not big on collecting. but Conan is a worthwhile curation.

I kind of wish they didn't have the amount of back matter+ the letters columns. I get why that's a positive to some, but I'd rather have a hundred more pages of comics.

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>>150827799
there's a lot of exposition but it's an interesting read... supposedly accurate history of texas (i wouldn't know).

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Can anybody recommend a good Golden Age western?

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>>150813652
russian bootleg LOTR

>>150827863
I cannot.

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I went through my storage unit recently and found my copy of Groo vs. Conan I bought and got signed at SDCC 2015. I was thinking about finally giving it a read.

>>150828511
SERGIO!

Read, bitches.

>>150813652
Finally read through Batman/The Maxx: Arkham Dreams, confusing af and it's ending feels really abrupt, but I don't dislike it.

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Usagi Yojimbo, Teru Teru Bozu. It was a cute little story, which we really needed more of. Lost power though just as I got to the last page. I'll probably get back and finish it later but I had other stuff to do.

>>150813652
Great cover.

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I'm reading Deathstroke 2011. Edgy as fuck kinda neat tho

>>150829803
make me

>>150830772
Reminds me of Doom.

These threads are really sad to me. Not only because they exists, like we have to have these almost general like threads where everyone just posts for themselves with little actual interaction from other posters, but jeeeez, you lot are always reading the most boring and mediocre crap ever.

>>150831339
I'm sorry you're sad, anon.
You should probably talk to a therapist or get an escort.

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>>150831339
Read and post something more interesting then faggot

>>150831427
>>150831507
Get laid.

>>150831660
Kek so you don't actually read comics got it

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pic related is a weird one. it's freak brothers meets blade runner. a man gets in trouble with the government so they cut off his head and attach it to a dog's body. he joins a pack of strays only to discover a conspiracy theory.

read

>>150833332
No

>>150834199
Yes!

>>150831339
Well I normally just make a thread whenever I finish a book. Like anyone can do it if they want some comic discussions

>>150817368
> Which stories?
Currently The Right Hand of Doom TPB. It’s a bunch of short stories compiled. The time jumps showing different stories throughout Hellboys life is pretty cool

>>150831339
>you lot are always reading the most boring and mediocre crap ever
Examples?

>>150831339
>You lot
Most likely a brit who can't read anything not dripping in irony and self hatred

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Still reading Bringing Up Father
>bulk of early 1914 spent in Europe
>go from France to Germany to London
>Maggie wants a ticket home
>May 8 1914 strip is Jiggs deciding not to take the Lusitania based on another passenger being obnoxious
Very uncanny feeling
Also finished v1 of The Thirteenth Floor

>>150834957
Americans use that too.

>>150813652
OP here. Almost done with the first trade. It's okay so far.
I like Simonson's work better on Manhunter with Archie Goodwin.

>>150835957
Not this century, Nigel

>>150836612
Seek help.

>>150836612
I use it, and I don't even drink tea.

>>150835022
Nice.

>>150831339
Then read something and make a thread about it.

>>150838772
He won't.

>>150838772
It will die, just like how 90% of the posts here don't get engagement.

>>150839507
Then make it again.
Comicfags are too afraid of making threads, and that's why cartoons took over so easily.

>>150839703
It should have always been
>/co/ - Comics & Manga
>/ani/ - Animation

>>150839727
Theyd kill each other.

>>150826162
Okay, yeah. They ditched Matteis and immediately revealed that Nighthawk’s nurse was actually a surveillance robot, and the elf who was bothering her was just bringing her back to her employers. I think I’m out.

Are the Defenders worth reading at all past this point?

>>150821618
>master chief threw a sticky grenade on a brute's dick
Damn it, it's a Bendis comic, but at least in that one moment, he delivered what Halo players wanted.

>>150832605
Reminds me of Stealers Wheel.

none

>>150813652
All bad.

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Been dipping into the 90s Marvel UK recently and just read Mys-Tech Wars. It's by no means outstanding but a lot of fun. Also thinking about reading the Hell's Angel/Dark Angel series because I love her design.

>>150845428
That cover is insanity.

bamp

>>150814085
Prophet is really good

>>150813652
I liked the new ASM, Spider-Norman is cool

>>150845428
action packed for sure.

>>150848409
No way

>>150843048
oh yeah the cover. the comic itself is like underground comix with some sf.

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i'm reading these. it's actually the same comic but redrawn from scratch because of copyright issues. it's interesting to compare. the story is similar but the execution differs.

>>150845428
After reading the Death's Head collection a few months back, I admit I'm curious about reading more Dragon's Claw, but also seeing my boy turned into that.... I can see why the only Death's Head II story in the collection was a What If about him not becoming II.

>>150849451
Might check it out.

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>>150850034
the art is nothing to write home about but it is a fun little book.

I'm thinking about reading The Thanos Imperative but it's looking like I need to read 3 different books worth of mid 2000s Marvel Cosmic to understand it.

>>150849480
Which version looks better?

Recently read all of The Goon.
Great stuff, both when funny and dramatic.
I do feel it should've ended when they left the town, but even then I also liked most of what came after.

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>>150851106
you'll understand it fine enough, but it is basically the climax of the whole Annihilation era, which is very worth reading anyways. God I miss those days

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>>150851122
I'd say the new one. The old one had that 1970s magazine charm but the creator improved since. The art might look good on the left but when you read it, you realize these are not even the main characters. The captions are gone too. Finally, I don't think the first version was ever finished.

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I've finished reading the complete Hey Kids. It was bad but I was hoping it'd pick up. What the fuck was the point. There are funny bits like this pic related. Miller (?) couldn't afford to buy his own DD cover.

>>150852107
The more you learn about this industry the harder it is to be a fan sometimes

>>150852107
What happened to Chaykin? American Flagg was great.

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OGN about growing up gay. not for the faint of heart

>>150854070
Yeesh

>>150849799
Haven't read any of the original Death's Head but Death's Head II appears a lot in cross-overs and from what I've seen I'm not very impressed.

>>150855518
You should read Death's Head original, yes

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>>150855518
The OG was a Transfromers/Dr Who/Fantastic Four/She Hulk villain. The guy was petty, and only cared about business, and somehow believed he was the good guy most of the time. I've never read anything with II, but from what I understand, they sucked all the joy out of him and the new look did not help. I should read how they undid it.

>>150845428
is the UK stuff and Captain britain and all of that good for Americans?

nothing against the Brits but I was reading some Batman that crossed over with Knight and Squire over in England and I couldn't understand their slang or turns of phrases, it was just annoying to read.

>>150856617
American here. Alan Moore's Captain Britain is great.

>>150856740
Seconded, as an American, Captain Britain is unironically one of my favorite super heroes.

>>150855867
This guy looks like he was built to sell toys.

>>150857390
>Character from a Transformers comic is made to sell toys
shocking, yes?

>>150857390
he most certainly was

>>150841446
That's just a fill-in issue. DeMatteis is on the book until #132 or so.

But it's not really worth reading on. The subsequent issues are about setting up "New Defenders" (including a really convoluted plot that forces the four original Defenders to leave the team permanently).

"New Defenders" begins in #126 and DeMatteis immediately lost interest in the book because he'd retooled it into a standard superhero book, so he leaves and turns it over to Peter Gillis. Some like his run, I didn't.

>>150854070
Look at him go

>>150854972
>>150859145
there's a cumshot too

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I've read "Three Rocks" recently, the life and times of the creator of "Nancy". As you can imagine, not very eventful but lots of familiar faces, almost a history of newspaper strips.

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s'pretty good

>>150860868
I've only seen the older covers from the peak Mignola era. Never saw this one.

>>150861901
The art has certainly been a highlight

>>150860058
Seems interesting.

>>150857390
Good for business, yes?

>>150863610
Apparently not.

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I've been reading Lore Olympus. Late to the party, I know. I prefer the books to webtoons. Has somebody been keeping up? I was wondering will they or wont they

>>150863688
To be fair, he is probably the most successful thing to come out of Marvel UK, so graded on that curve...

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welp, this was depressing

>>150864334
I doubt /co/ reads this.

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<<<< Arsene has been re-released so I snatched a copy

>>150866263
Sweet. I love Schrauwen's comics.

>>150866263
I should too.

>>150851591
Left looks way better

>>150851591
>>150866985
There's more going on in the right but I don't think that's always better. Sort of one of those limitation breeds creativity situations.

>>150845428
Theres a really good Gary Frank Excalibur crossover issue of her comic #6

Benito Cereno has made a big comeback out of nowhere and that guy is one of my favorite writers and just people for the last 20 years(fuck im old). So ive been reading his Blood & Thunder - deceptively interesting and fun. AND HECTOR PLASM IS BACK THIS WEEK WITH A NEW MINI THANK GOD!

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>>150866985
>>150867054
I love the b&w version myself. The artist said her hand was painful from all the shading in pencil lol. But when you read it, the new version simply works better. Not because it's in color, mind you, but you can tell the creator has matured and pays attention to things like establishing shots. 1/2

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>>150868192
(same scene, but the introduction of a new character is much better) 2/2

>>150813652
Absolute Wonder Woman
Morbius Omnibus (i've already read 90s morbius)

waiting for vampire chevalier to come in the mail on halloween

About to pick up Kneel Before Zod

>>150868192
>>150868206
b&w is way better, dude.

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1/2

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>>150868765

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This was not what I expected. Picked it up because of art but didn't check the blurb. Couldn't relate to mental issues but loved the drawings.

>>150868860
You just know....

>>150868765
>>150868780
They both have their charm, but I prefer the expressiveness of the black and white version.

>>150865011
Can't wait to read it.

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halfway into this run. why is it hated again? it's rather mid

>>150870475
i mean it's good, but the main character's a snowflake the comic, it's right there lol

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>>150813652
Keeping Two

>>150870527
He's special?

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I read the first few issues of the new Toxic Avenger and the first Toxic Crusaders one. I have the original 90s ones and was curious. They're not great but not quite as bad as I was prepared for them to be. But the original Toxic Crusaders were sort of a separate universe from The Toxic Avenger, and came out after Toxic Avenger was cancelled, so there was no overlapped. The new ones overlap and have the same characters, so I kind of wonder what is the point of having a second series that runs concurrent and has the same characters set in the same universe.

>>150873235
That art's pretty nice. Who did that?

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>>150873557
It looks like Tristan Wright did the cover for that one and was the interior artist also. Search only found a b&w pic

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Has anyone read Strangeheaven? It used to come out now and then since 1995. A couple of years ago the last chapter was published but I don't feel like paying absurd money on ebay just to see the ending, especially if the author didn't wrap up the loose ends. No scans either. It's a cool little book, kind of like British version of Twin Peaks, about a man stuck in a village with freemasons, aliens etc. There's also a murder mystery.

>>150873829
Oh, I've heard about this ages ago but never checked it out. Will have to see what's scanned.

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I had the Frank Miller Daredevil omnibus since covid. I'm finally reading it and really enjoying it. I know it's a character defining run, so it's no surprise there. But I am shocked just how well Miller does since he's writing and doing art.

I also joined a bookclub with two discord friends and we're going to read every single issue of Archie Sonic. Including spinoffs and minis. So it's over 500 issues total.

>>150813652
I dont reed comics

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>>150874582
how about doom comics instead?

>>150874608
kek

might read tomorrow

>>150875956
What's on the menu to read?

>>150813652
golden age kid colt & patsy walker, nothing matters issue to issue, they are just comics.

Gonna start reading Cerebus the Aardvark.

>>150876635
Starts a bit rough but it has some really good moments.

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I've finally finished collected Star Trek strips. These must be some of the worst comics ever. There are cool moments though. Pic related is the first appearance of the Borg in any media, although they're not called that yet.

>>150876056
>golden age kid colt
always confused why he's not called rawhide. it's right there. the other guy called two gun kid also wears a rawhide vest. then there's a third character actually called rawhide but he has a uniform shm

>>150877484
For as much as people shit on the star wars eu the expanded Star Trek books and comics are worse by several magnitudes

>>150876635
Enjoy.

>>150873829
I really want to read it, even though I dislike traced art.

>>150878745
it's not even traced, it's filtered photos. i don't mind, it's what it is, like maleev on daredevil or italian fumetti/photo comics

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i really liked this one. i see he has done some YA bullshit and is doing godzilla now, i guess he needs to eat too but it's a pity

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>>150877616
yeah. i've read these out of morbid curiosity but some strips are really rough.

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>>150878857
>>150877616
I've never actually read any of the Trek novels. Wars had a lot of crap but there was also some really good stuff. Surely Trek must have at least a few stand outs.

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>>150877616
>>150878857
others are rather polished but the writing is so bland and has nothing to do with star trek. characters, ships, themes... it's all wrong more often than not. frankly old dell comics were the same.

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>>150878881
don't know about the novels, but some of these were okay-ish if lackluster. sometimes the story or the artwork was horrible but at least it had heart.

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>>150878933
i couldn't finish most of these those, seemed like soulless cashgrabs. i may be wrong

>>150861964
I loved the Fritz Leiber stories as a kid. That art is awesome. But they don't work together. It totally ruins the story.

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>When a whole crossover was done for a single joke

>>150878816
I hate both of those.

>>150878989
You mean the art doesn't fit the story?

>>150879727
Yeah.

>>150835022
Started Scarlet Traces, I'm trying to stick to British stuff and American strips recently.
>War of the Worlds but the aftermath
I like the main two guys so far.

>>150880053
Damn.

Peter Gillis is a bad writer.

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Finished Conquest. It wasn't as good as the first Annihilation but I still enjoyed it. Just didn't feel as tight and everyone was a bit more disconnected.

>>150881523
I didn't even like the first one.

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the best western ever

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>>150813652
This will be my final post on /co/
Also, is the PADs run all like the story in Issue 0. Because if so, i might read it after Immortal.

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Den is being reprinted so I'm getting all the volumes. I prefer the original though.

>>150883596
A few months back I did a daily read of Immortal and ALMOST all of the extended material. Starting with CW2 the Fallen, No surrender, and then finally Immortal. The hardest part was remembering when to switch over to other books like knowing that I needed to finish the first hell arc, do all of No Road Home, and then back to the main book. It was also hard to work out when would be the best for things like Great Power or Threshing place. The only things I forgot were that best Defense and that single issue of Juggernaut (how is the trade over $100?!), but I don't even know where to put them in the reading order.

>>150884179
For fuck's sake.

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somehow better than Watchmen

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>>150884179
Nice, I didn't know about this.
I just realized they've been doing a reprint "facsimile" run of the original FF comics. I read 1 - 20 online fairly recently, so it's cool to actually get a physical copy of them.

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>>150886628
Recently read Savage tales 1 (first Man-Thing story), Man-Thing #1, and Man-Thing annual. I ended up looking into the history and never realize he predates Swamp Thing, barely. Apparently Marvel were going to sue over Swamp Thing, but decided not to because both are a rip off of The Heap
https://comicbookplus.com/?cid=3255

>>150813652
I haven't ready anything that I've bough at my local comic shop in five years. I have a pull list that I occasionally add stuff to. Is something wrong with me /co/? I mean besides being an idiot

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>>150886933
probably hulk too

>>150886628
I don't think it is, but they're both great.

>>150856740
Why does no one ever talk about Thorpe or Davis's stuff? I liked them just as much as Moore's stuff

>>150884496
Are any of the tie-ins worth reading?
Or should i just stick to the main book?

>>150881467
Peter Gillis is a VERY bad writer and I am now rather mad at the dicks who recommended him to me.

>>150859103
Shame he got to the Defenders too. All good things must come to an end, I suppose.

I wonder if he ever learned to stop using so many fucking emdashes.

>>150813652
Been reading Dr Strange from the beginning and just got to the 90's and it takes a hard nosedive. Rest was pretty decent though and The Defenders was pretty great.

>>150888368
Early strange is some of Ditkos best

>>150889559
The early parts of Ditko's Strange run are insanely boring.

>>150887880
I liked Thorpe just fine, but not as much as the Moore stuff (at least by the end). Haven't read Davis.

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Tried getting into the Gasoline Alley strip. The characters ageing in real time was the selling point for me. It started in 1918 and is still running, so it's fascinating. But it also proved to be the major limitation. Plots get dragged out and favorite characters disappear. Some strips are not collected. I should have chosen one or two books and not bother with the rest but not it's sunk cost.

>>150885243
you don't like corben or the reprint?

>>150888074
>Are any of the tie-ins worth reading?
It's a mixed bag of good and mid. You can just stick to the main book and not miss anything, but there will be an occasional line mentioning them. In one part, Bruce will say that (spoiler) wouldn't believe what he went through to get somewhere, and the reason is that off screen is when No Road Home happens (A book where Hulk basically a guest star who's there to aura farm). The only book that I would argue is actually going to matter to the plot is Slott's Fantastic 4 #12 and 13, and even then, you can assume what went down based on the dialog. Time of Monsters also has a tiny role in the final issue, but it won't really matter till 2 runs later when the whole story revolves around that special.

>>150883596
>the PADs run all like the story in Issue 0
you mean issue minus one?

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this wasn't THAT good. i was hoping for a moon knight comic but got a comic about moon knight

Just read Infinity Gauntlet for the first time, shit was ass.
This is what you guys were hyping up as being a spiritual successor to Fourth World all these years?

>>150892956
Lemire's run piggybacks on the goodwill built up from Ellis and Wood. It isn't terrible but I feel like people just want to say
>Oh shit this era of Moon Knight was peak!
and include Lemire's stuff to make it seem more impressive

>>150893068
how's mackay?

>>150893444
9/10
Draws on deep lore, and pays respect to almost every run in some way. But it did shit on the Bendis run and joked that it's the reason basically everyone knows Mark's identity. Also the first good supporting cast since the Civil War era more or less nuked MK's cast by killing or driving them all away.

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>>150892854
Yeah

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I have never been a huge Speed Racer fan but I'm enjoying this run a lot

>>150888368
Strange got hit very hard by the modern age. It is very unfortunate that most of his good stories predate Netscape, but if we’re lucky maybe he’ll get some better ones soon. Can’t be all that hard now that Bendis and Aaron’s runs are mostly in the past… right?

>>150894110
*Netscape Navigator, I don’t know why that second word got eaten.

>>150892956
It wasn't great but it's the Moon Knight comic I enjoyed the most.

>>150894163
i love greg smallwood. why hasn't he done more? it's just human target and moon knight?

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>>150818847
Okay, can someone explain the appeal of the Dark Magic arc to me? I just finished it recently and I disliked it quite a lot. I’m not looking to have that opinion changed— just understand why the story is so revered. Pic related is the closest opinion to mine that I’ve found elsewhere, and still doesn’t sum up my thoughts on the matter very accurately.

>>150894286
He was supposed to do a Batman elseworld thing but I don't know what happened.

>>150892981
It was just another "Thanos is so cool guys" story for the pile

>>150892981
>>150895013
I don't love infinity gauntlet, it's good not great, but idk if anyone thinks or is supposed to think Thanos is "cool" in that story. The whole conceit is that he can't handle the powers the gauntlet gives him on top of being a tragic romantic when rejected by death. Thanos Quest is better imo

>>150893444
I don't like it all.
>>150893567
>9/10
Way too high.

>>150895105
Thanos Quest was pretty good yeah

Fuck reading.

>TFW you're between books and don't know what you want to read next

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>>150896485
What book?

I just read Savage Sword of Conan omni 9. I'm a bit on the fence of how far I want to keep collecting them. I like the series a lot but there's going to be a lot of these when these things are done.

>>150896645
I'm having trouble getting through the first omni. It really doesn't hold my interest as much as I thought it would.

>>150896624
funny

>>150893771
It's kinda weird to have Stan Lee messing around with clowns and puppets telling this story of child and spousal abuse. PAD himself would've been better but I guess they had to stick to Stan because that was the gimmick, a part of the minus one issues.

>>150894573
anything to do with the cartoonist kayfabe fallout? i remember he was bitter about it. maybe he burned some bridges

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i've read "wage slaves". it's about a polish girl working illegaly in sweden. not exactly persepolis but she was cute

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>>150897815
I liked the twist that they were all ghosts.

>>150897293
Try the original short stories

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I've been reading Mandrake dailies from 1965 till the end. That was a soft reboot, when he moved to Xanadu (and the new artist came on board). It's been repetitive but fun. The art got really sloppy in 2000s.

>>150898479
Eh. All the minus one issues had Stan be just a bookend figure for each story so him being illusory and not actually there or transient is kinda the point. I meant it's kinda weird seeing Stan be in the same book that has these specific elements. I mean the guy tackles human subjects but it is a little too dark for what I think Stan would usually think is suitable for comic stories. Like old people don't like to see too dark stuff in their media. Especially people from back then. They didn't even consider school shootings could happen or that there are places like 4chan. Yeah they saw racism and did something about it as well as war but all that shit isn't as dark as abuse or molestation or rape. I'm not saying that's good or bad I'm just saying it's weird to see Stan here. Like you wouldn't ever see Stan comment on JMD's Child Within arc and how Vermin was abused.
So yeah he will say PAD is good but he's not gonna say anything substantial about Hulk's child abuse plot or do anything with it.

>>150901729
Master of of magic spells and illusion... that's all I know about Mandrake. He was pals with a black dude?

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Just read Batman Annual #11, one of Alan Moore's few times writing a mainline Batman story. It's from Clayface III/Preston Payne's skewed perspective, he genuinely is mentally unhinged and it's a surprisingly sad story. What little of Batman actually in this book is very good though, making an effort to help Payne by the end.

>>150896645
I'm in the same boat. I finished CtB one and am into two, and just got SSoC 1 and 2.

I wish they were doing softcover collections I dislike Omnis.

>>150905525
They were putting the series out in Epic Collection for a time. I forget how far Barbarian get but the whole Dark Horse line got printed. I'm missing like three volumes of that. The after market is a whore.

>>150905553
>The after market is a whore.
Tell me about it, I just want to read the first Punisher War Zone arc without paying one hundred fucking bucks for a trade paperback Marvel initially charged an MSRP of $14.99 for.

>>150905694
I don't mind splurging a bit over cover if someone is long out of print but only to a point. And I feel like it always ends up going the same way. Most of the line can be had at or around cover but then there's ONE VOLUME that goes full retard. I only need like one volume each for Fantastic Four and Spider-man and the volumes I need are close to a 100 or more for stories that I don't think are all that great and would want for completions sake only.

>>150831339
Has it occured to you that some people already read Le Epic TRUE ART series and are reading other stuff? 99% of comics arent even anything special but they can be a fun read. (Me picking up West Coast Avengers issues that have to do with westerns and the original Ghost Rider)

>>150852107
I have the first volume of this and I actually really like it. It's very dry but it really tells you a lot about the industry.

>>150905847
I mean that's kind of the thing, isn't it. I've read all the artsy fartsy stuff a bunch of times, but during the rest of the year I'm probably working through something more casual or just regular ongoing lines.

>>150893771
it is one of my favourites issues ever, I read it in 2003 and I love it, but it hits harder if you read whole peter david run, remember issues minus one is from 1997.

>>150893771
Nice art

>>150905847
>99% of comics arent even anything special but they can be a fun read.
NTA, and I love the medium, but most comics are boring to me.

>>150905847
Nah, most you you just read slop.

>>150895105
TQ is ok but IG is just boring. Tranos is just not compelling in it.

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>>150904895
Yeah, Lothar is his best friend, "the world's strongest man"

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>>150905895
It's not bad, but it's redundant, with all the information available nowadays. Back in Chaykin's heyday, I can see how this title would have been gold mine. Also, it's not historically accurate: there are composite characters and fictional accounts, so what's the point? As a comic, it's all doom and gloom. Why does he even bother with comics? Go write your TV scripts. As if nothing nice or funny ever happened in the industry. It's a book about how bitter Chaykin is, that's all.

>>150813652
What about you though, OP senpai?

>>150908910
That one interview he did a while back was pretty good.

>>150908330
>most you you just

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>>150813652
While not a full-on Batman reader, I do check some stories from time to time. This one was pretty fun, I specially liked how it's structured like a goofy silver age plot combined with a more in-depth mix of gothic literature. Nothing groundbreaking but just a solid story.

>>150911631
>Nothing groundbreaking but just a solid story.
This is a phrase I've seen often on /co/ that usually describes something not worth reading.

>>150912444
People might say it a lot less if others knew how to operate outside of extremes. Nothing can ever just be good anymore. It has to either be genre shattering mind blowing hype or shit suxs.

>>150911211
All of his interviews are gold. Better than his comics lol

>>150910832
OP made an epic thread and probably doesn't even know it
seriously these should be sticky until they hit the limit

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>>150886628
>>150886933
>>150887292

>>150912444
Actually it's one of the best comics in this thread.

>>150910832
I finished the first trade of Simonson's Thor. I don't think I'm going to continue reading it. After that amazing introduction, it's just kind of average. I'm not enjoying it as much as other myth-based comics like PCR's Ring of the Nibelung or Alex Alice's Siegfried.
>>150912727
I make this thread often, but so do others. Thank you guys for keeping it alive. The beauty of these is you can make them whenever.

>>150912513
This. Nuance on media discourse is dead.

>>150913457
sure, grant

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I like to revisit this run every other year. I know /co/ doesn't like it but I enjoyed Roy Thomas' attempt to tie Kirby's Eternals, Ring of the Nibelung and 616. The final issue was a letdown but the journey was worth it.

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>>150913644
I mean I hate to say it this way because it sounds very dismissive but most regular comics are, at their best, simply and reliably good. That was what entertainment was. It wasn't mean to be a see it once lose your mind type of deal. It was something to come back to with good faith. Not to be binged. Not to be memed. Not to be endless hype.

>>150914282
Amen. I was trying to explain the appeal of Legion to someone who just bought an omnibus whereas I grew up with those characters and they grew up with me

>>150893895
i've seen many episodes of speed racer as a kid and i never even figured out what the macro-level plot was

>>150908851
more like world's GAYEST men
how did america not realize short shorts were gay? it's a mindfuck to me.

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>>150813652
Read Deadface/Bacchus because somebody posted a page. Wtf, why does nobody talk about this shit, its perfection.

>>150914647
It's one of my favorite comics, but it's been a while since I last revisited it.

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>>150914501
there were no gays in 1934, anon

>>150913889
Alright, Bendis.

>>150826220
>resistors
transistors

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>>150831339

>>150871892
he never fights for anything. a one-note character that's supposed to represent the human condition, or some other bullshit chris ware stated

>>150914282
Yeah, I feel like more and more, people have lost appreciation for a simple idea, well executed.

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>>150883312
i've never revisited it since i realized how much gir swiped left and right

>>150914362
Yeah, the appeal of long term comics and entertainment was that it sort of became a ceremony in it's way. Tuning into a certain bat channel at a bat time, you're weekly/monthly trip to your comic ship stuff like that. Knowing you would do certain things at certain time really made them part of your life as time went on. In a few ways I feel bad for people who just get into stuff through omnibuses. It's not that stories aren't still good but you're missing the whole effect. It's why streaming shows don't seem to have lasting appeal. It's too bingy and too done too fast.

>>150883268
Never got the appeal of Grell's art. Look at that woman.

>>150915546
>Not gigging hot barabrian babes
I mean okay he's no Big John Buschema but still.

>>150915651
Buscema love to draw from life, Grell is a poor man's Adams with sideburns and leotards

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Reading the Boom Power Rangers universe.

I've never actually seen any power rangers before this and went in totally blind, but I absolutely adore it. From what I understand it takes itself more seriously than the tv shows, which is good imo and more my speed.
It reads almost like Spiderman but as a big sci fi epic

>>150915546
Yeah, he's not great. I dropped Jon Sable because the art kind of sucks.

>>150917570
i liked his longbow hunters but hated his legion

>>150914282
I didn't want to say to say this, because I love the comics medium, but most regular comics are mediocre. Filler made to keep the wheel spinning, to keep the products fresh, in a manner of speaking.
"Reliably good" is nonsense.
>>150915530
It's definitely best consumed in its time.
This is also why stories should end and give way to new stories.

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The comics I bought from the Fantagraphics online sale came in a while back and I got around to reading them this past week. I've gotten through Fatcop by Johnny Ryan, The Santos Sisters by Greg & Fake and I Killed Adolf Hitler by Jason. I've read the latter two in storytime threads before, so it was just nice to revisit them with physical copies, but with Fatcop I knew what I was getting into having previously read Prison Pit.
Tomorrow I'll be starting on It Was The War of The Trenches, and once I'm done that I have the first two volumes of Love & Rockets.

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>>150918503
good haul, didn't know about the sale, i should check more often

i was in michigan and went to john k. king used books, supposedly one of the largest bookstores in the area. didn't find much other than collection of newspaper strips but will likely get stds from rummaging through the piles and boxes

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>>150919517
also got these thru interlibrary loan. didn't get the hype but on its own it's a cool little fanzine, mostly homages of usual suspects like clowes and crumb

Today I read "Fiends of the Eastern Front" . Excellent B+W art from Ezquerra, writing from Day was solid. Just a nice simple weird war story.
>>150918503
>It Was The War of The Trenches
Oh boy...
Jason is cool, not sure if I've read the Hitler work yet though.

>>150918209
The Longbow Hunters is his best art I've seen.

>>150919542
geez

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I'm thinking of taking a sabbatical from comics.
I've grown pretty tired of them and of this place. Last comic I enjoyed was months ago.

>>150907960
These days I pick up more comedy comics than Super Heroes. Like if theres a new Archie or Looney Tunes or Popeye I'll pick it up.

>>150908910
Yeah and there's a reason he's bitter and he's telling you why. Also yeah it's not 100% real and he takes some liberties. I mean. What do you think Disney would do to you if you suddenly convinced people that Stan Lee was kinda a huge piece of shit?

>>150921974
Source?

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>>150922082
It's from Collector's Edition by Steve Ditko and Archie Goodwin. I took these panels from different pages.

>>150918503
nice

>>150921996
>new Archie or Looney Tunes or Popeye
Really?