>protagonist is a bumbling fat fuck retard who uses the power of music to help, his friends are also bipolar
Because gems are hot
>>150878330it’s blue diamond and that nurse milf that does it for me
>>150878089ConniexPearl was the main draw
Most of its own fans seem to agree the first season is a complete slog.The episode that I think really threw me off the show with Steven's character is still cheeseburger backpack. It always felt like the showrunners could never agree on the age demographic they wanted him to represent. By his age, my friends and I sat around playing Halo and talking about sportsball. He's at the age where the average kid would be too insecure for something like sportsball because it's the "superficial maturity" years.It made him feel almost alien to me as a protagonist because of having him subvert "toxic masculinity", I think they pushed him to the point he was never allowed to have the kinds of insecurities and character flaws that boys his age would have and thus he always leaned either Jesus-y or like he was 7
>>150878089It aired at the right time. Most things releasing between 2012-2016 got a fanbase, with how mainstream online fandom culture was becoming due to increased social media usage from smartphones and fandom websites like Tumblr.The show didn't really gain traction until there was "hype moments" like Lapis' debut in Mirror Gem/Ocean Gem, and then the fanbase really exploded with Jail Break.
Mostly the result of uncritical masses pushing for intersectionalist propaganda and seeing children's media as new frontier.These people have been gaslit into thinking family is evil and sodomy is wholesome, so any cartoon with POC faggots signing was given the seal of approval.
>>150878089Dumb underages with no taste
>>150878559Are these faggots in your room right now?
>>150878559>so any cartoon with POC faggots signing was given the seal of approvalShow some respect. SU was the OG faggots singing cartoon
>>150878573No but I'm definitely talking to one
>>150878594That depends if you count Marceline from adventure time or not.I count it.
>>150878089This question is applicable to My hero academia as well. Deku is literally just green and japanese Steven. Y'know what? Steven might even be better because he ends up with a girl
>>150878089Back then most of us weren't reflexive contrarians kneejerk shitting on things because we still retained the ability to engage those things with sincerity because the 20 year cycle hadn't reached the joyless detachment and terminal irony poisoning of Gen X.
>>150878089I think it's just this >>150878330, really.Like, imagine if the gems maintained their personalities and powers, but instead of the humanoid form they have in the show, they were all just a bunch of literal gems in their typical object form, but with arms and legs. It'd be doomed to fail.
>>150878089>protagonist is a bumbling fat fuck retardJUST LIKE ME!
>>150878677No, Deku’s better because he’s not a fat slack jaw
>>150878740Kids today love that shit though
>>150878737>joyless detachment and terminal irony poisoningDon't bring my generation into this. Those are talents that Millennials created.
People shat on SU all the time. Ignore revisionist retards
>>150878605Okay. Remember. They cannot occupy your attention and rent space in your head 24/7 without actually paying rent. Go find the tulpa you created with your closeted homosexuality and demand it pay rent for making you imagine gays controlling the world while simultaneously being incredibly easy to defeat.It's in your hands, retard-kun. You have the power.
>>150878821Mostly on /co/
>>150878821Nobody is saying people didn't. But it still had a very large fanbase.
>>150878737It's still an objectively mediocre shows that fails at so many fucking things. It has nothing to do with irony.
>>150878559A post made of buzzwords and wishful thinking.
>>150878511Season 1 was actually good even though it had some growing pains with the first handful of episodes. Season 2 is where it started to go downhill even though they still had good world building. Season 3 to the end was shit because they ruined all the good world building and mystery with bullshit and townies episodes. Absolutely no one can tell me S1E2: Laser Light Cannon wasn't hype as fuck at the end and all the monsters-of-the-week weren't setting up a cool world.
>>150878737>Back then most of us weren't reflexive contrarians kneejerk shitting on things because we still retained the ability to engage those things with sincerityHave you ever considered that the shitting on it wasn't just kneejerk, and that there are a lot of valid criticisms about the show? What if I genuinely think the music is unpleasant and distracting, I don't like the designs of the characters, the themes don't appeal to me, and the fanbase is particularly fucking obnoxious and invasive to the point that it starts to remind me of small horse show?
>>150878832Projection
It was literally just mass cope cause it was at the start of the trend of cartoons referencing anime in earnest. Which is just mundane now.The show has few merits of its own, and is struggling to maintain legacy.
stevens dad is a lazy sloth
>>150878559You really need to stop choking on other people's dicks and think for yourself. Look what it's done to you! You're imagining homosexuals behind every cartoon. Soon you won't be able to read a book without imagining if a fag wrote it. Help yourself, anon. Get therapy.
>>150878924>fanbase is particularly fucking obnoxious and invasive to the point that it starts to remind me of small horse showClarify to me. Is the fanbase the origin of your hate and everything else just you working backwards to justify it?
>>150878905Sugar has been very vocal about her support of intersectionalist causes and how they're represented in her content.This isn't wishful thinking, it's just a bare bones description of what was going on in the industry at that time.
>>150878986Sorry Anon, I'm not going to let you gaslight me. I was here when these shows were airing.
>>150879030You do realize there is no interview that she said that? It all exists in your head that saw shadows on the wall and thought that a faggot was coming to rape you, so obviously you got scared, got on 4chan and wrote angry words at people because that's all you can do. I understand now. You're not actually angry, you're just coping the best you can.Okay. I'll let you cope. Hope you get better XOXO
>>150878998>Is the fanbase the origin of your hate and everything else just you working backwards to justify it?I have genuinely given the show a chance. It is not for me and I'm not the target audience. Now here's something for you to answer: Have you considered that your insistence that I haven't even tried the show just pisses me off further, and is a major reason why I don't like the fanbase? Like, don't ask my opinion on the show if you don't want it, Jesus Christ
>>150879085>Have you considered that your insistence that I haven't even tried the show just pisses me off further, and is a major reason why I don't like the fanbase?Apologies ma'am. I didn't know you were on your period. You should know how emotional you get when you're bleeding.
>>150879066>You do realize there is no interview that she said that? I would need to ignore her decades worth of content to pretend she hasn't adequately represented her views You need more media literacy.
>>150879118>You need more media literacy.Shut up libtard
>>150879111Hey, at least you answered your own question: No, I didn't need to "work backwards" to justify why the SU fanbase sucks. They demonstrate that on their own regularly.
>>150879118I accept your concession that you cannot point to a single interview, or even a collection of interviews to synthesize from, your point. I will allow you to bow out from this debate and return to your Discord and seethe to your internet friends about how you utterly owned me.
>>150879158>I accept your concession that you cannot point to a single interview, or even a collection of interviews to synthesize from, your pointOooh I like this game.How many do I need to provide? You said a single interview, right? All I need to do is provide interviews showing her support of gay representation, BIPOC, and non-birary representation each right?
>>150879203Stop being the epitome of braindead liberal and remember what you wrote>>150879030>support of intersectionalist causes and how they're represented in her content(You) are the one who declared this as fact, and thus it is up to you to back it up. If you can't, at least have the courage to accept that you made it up.
>>150879219>(You) are the one who declared this as fact, and thus it is up to you to back it up. It's a simple question, what do I need to provide to convince you? An example of each of her support of intersectionalist causes, followed by how they're represented in the show, right?
>>150879253Find me the evidence that made you declare >>150879030
>>150878792Lmao Decunt drools for his bully's penis. He's not better than Steven
>>150879289Does what I described suffice? Yes or no.
>>150879311Is that the evidence you have? Then post it.
>>150879339That's not a yes or no.Just say it suffices, and I'll post it. The fact is I already know you've looked it up yourself at this point and have found multiple examples of both interviews and PSAs she's produced that explicitly show her support of intersectionalist causes, but I'm not going to post them unless you're willing to recognize them.
>>150878089Because it's a fun show with good world building and lore.
>>150879384Post them anyway.
>>150879414Why? You've already looked em up.
>>150879385>fun showA fun train wreck
>>150879384Yes. Now post it.
Sugar should reboot SU, instead of doing all these retarded doa projects and the inevitable butchering of Moomins
>>150879435Do people actually care about Moomins? I've had no exposure to it.Isn't it like winnie the pooh for swedes or something?
>>150879385>good world building and lore.Fucking Hey Arnold had better world building than this shit. Better townies too.
>>150879741Winnie the Pooh is literally one of the biggest IPs on the planet...
>>150879787Okay sure, but I wasn't using Pooh as an analogy of popularity, but of the nature of the cartoon. It's a picture book for little kids.As far as I'm aware Moomins aren't very known in America. I don't know how popular it is worldwide. I assume it's huge in Scandinavia.
>>150879787I mean, you would be too if you were President of China. No need to get bitter just because you were too stupid to be born into a high-ranking family in the CCP.
>>150878089If this thread dies I want everyone to remember >>150878559 and whenever anyone makes a statement w/o backing it up the only thing they deserve is to be filtered out. Even political clowns on camera deserve a response more than his kind.
>>150878559True.>>150878605Eyo!
>>150879787Huh? I haven't seen any media of it in a while.
>>150879435She should let Man of Action do it.
>>150880483Shut up Jamal
>>150878740>just a bunch of literal gems in their typical object form, but with arms and legs. It'd be doomed to fail.kek you know nothing
>>150878511Season 1 was peak. It was like a magical girl show with a fat retard who larps as one of the girls (none of them had the heart to tell him he can't be a magical girl). After s1 he started crying too much and trooning out.
>>150878089Faggotry and a real effort by a small group of people to push homosex onto chikdren.
>>150882423>trooning out.This isn't about you
>>150880352>whenever anyone makes a statement w/o backing it upDeserve to be filtered out for what? He's right. Rebecca Sugar teamed up with both Dove's body positivity campaign and also developed a series of PSAs called Crystal Gems Speak Up.https://steven-universe.fandom.com/wiki/Crystal_Gems_Speak_Up_Projecthttps://steven-universe.fandom.com/wiki/Dove_Self-Esteem_ProjectShe's also stated on several occasions that she identifies as non-binary and designed Steven Universe in mind with the concept of fusions as a way of expressing her gender identity through shared experience. This is common knowledge.
>>150878089>uses the power of musicI hate this show, but I did watch a bit. If you're serious, I really couldn't catch a hint of this. As someone who is really into music, this makes me laugh in disbelief.
>>150880496Well yeah, you're not a toddler. Even without any recent releases, the amount of merchandise produced for preschool kids is enormous.
>>150880657Make me prewitt
>>150879772I don't know how you can say that with a straight face. I'm not a fan of Steven Universe and love Hey Arnold, but hey Arnold had virtually no world building, and that was basically by design.
>>150883347Cope
>>150885101Arrest
>>150882430chud schizo
>>150878089Because of the Slice of Life and Drama elements. It's incredibly lightweight, but Steven Universe is a more kids network friendly example of watching a coming of age show with action elements, similar to Harry Potter
>>150878557>>150878559Two posts in a row of unadulterated truth.
>>150880659No u
>>150885921vurgin psycho
>>150888239cope
>>150886344Harry Potter is nothing like Steven Universe
>>150878511I didn't care about any episode of season 1 until Steven is given that test by the gems and find out they were going easy on him.
>>150888022fag
>>150889100Not entirely no. They're wildly different from each other of course, but they both have a similar thematic base. A coming of age show by a female author about the adventures of a super special powerful magical poster child in a world populated by regular humans, and the narrative explores hidden magical elements. They both primarily explore human experiences like feelings, drama, and romance while the action elements mostly takes a back seat role. The boys also don't know how to handle their first crush, and comes to realize that one of their parents isn't all sunshine and rainbows.
>>150878511>Most of its own fans seem to agree the first season is a complete slog.This is the complete inverse of reality lol, most people agree that the first handful of episodes aren't a good introduction to the series but that season 1 overall is the strongest part of the show in spite of that.
>>150879385>>150879428>>150879772>They hated Jesus because he told them the truth
>>150888366arrest>>150890648sperg
>>150893517mald
>>150892689Go sniff your own farts somewhere else
>>150893552bald
>>150878740>>150878794Steven Universe predicted the popularity of soulless object shows.I actually don't know if these object shows are well-written or not, I'm just basing it off appearance.
>>150882492Then why didn't he post the links that you posted? Why did it have to come down to you to post anything to back up his claims? If it's common knowledge then there should be common evidence. I can claim that breastmilk is initially yellow and everyone should know that, but without anything to compel belief then its literally.>"Trust me bro. I know what I'm talking about."Except from a stranger in a mask you met at a rave.P.S. Those links prove she is actively anti-racist but show nothing to her ideology re: intersectionalism. I'll accept that people who are non-binary are more left-wing than most due to herd mentality bringing them closer to people who accept them.
>>150878089
>>150894494>If it's common knowledge then there should be common evidenceThis is a comics and cartoons forum in a thread about Steven Universe. It's a show about black coded lesbian space rocks by a writer who drew the pornography of the Eds fucking each other as kid. This is also common knowledge on this forum.>Those links prove she is actively anti-racist but show nothing to her ideology re: intersectionalism. "Rebecca Sugar does not make intersectional propaganda! Sure, maybe her statements and PSAs show she is queer coded, body positive, anti-racist, trans affirmative, intersectional, a communist, but she is NOT a porn star!"
>>150895782>writer who drew the pornography of the Eds fucking each other as kidWhat the schizo fuck are you on about?
>>150895859NTA, but that’s actually true
>>150895859For fucks sake, dude
>>150895884>>150895915I'm calling bullshit on that. He's making shit up and saying everyone knows it because as long as he believes its real, everyone else has to. Because every one else is a copy of him and and knows everything he does.>>150895782You couldn't prove your point about intersectionalism so you pointed at everything else and said "Ah, but what if?" Like equating political parties with how often they fuck children. Enjoy your mental daydream. I hope you never confuse it with reality and reveal your ramblings to someone that could actually impact your life.
>>150895963>You couldn't prove your point about intersectionalism so you pointed at everything elseI have no real stake in this argument, it's gone on too long and this thread is retarded, all I'm saying is that her political leanings aren't really ambiguous.Also, I'm not going to share links to the Ed porn, you can do that yourself. I'll give her credit for doing a disturbingly good job of capturing Danny Antonucci style.
>>150895963Ok https://files.catbox.moe/g4do5a.jpeg
FUCK STEVEN UNIVERSE
>>150895859>>150895963
>>150896220What are you, gay?
>>150893598tard
Most zoomer boys hated this show and would bully anymore at school who'd talk about it
>>150898064douche
>>150898123I was like picrel
>>150878089be shit, find shit
>>150878330You actually got that right, first post senpai. The gems characters are pretty hot.
>>150898123based
>>150898123cringe
What every long cartoon did. Got popular with kids and adults and then they just kept watching
>>150896220Didn't he used to makw YTP on SU?
>>150878089Could you imagine if we don't have Steven Universe?
>>150908114It’d be better, ESL-kun
>>150898330homo
>>150908114Was there really any other shows trying to be groundbreaking with gay content in kid cartoons? I feel like Steven Universe was a strong inspiration and trendsetter for all of it.The industry would be completely different if SU didn't exist.
>>150878667it's not that it doesn't count, it's just that adventure time was usually not that, that stuff was only in a handful of episodes compared to the overall length of the show
>>150910418normie
>>150912334>sageno
>>150912424>downvotenot. necrobumped from page 10 award
>>150912619
>>150904674This
>>150878511Reminder that Steven is based off of Sugar’s actual brother, Steven Sugar.
>>150907194Yeah hes made a few, he seems fixated on the over the hill hero episode of sonic at the moment
Bismuth was, and forever will be, completely right about everything.
>>150917435Is that his actual name
>>150878089The songs. Rebecca Sugar is a gifted songwriter. Also, the show is very sad and that draws psychopaths. Psychopaths love media that does their feeling for them so they can go on feeling nothing for real people.
>>150919128Yeah, he even worked on the show
>>150908114Although we have Teen Titans Go in our timeline, I think we would have been better off without Steven Universe.
>>150919359Do you think he self inserts as Steven and imagines himself fucking the gems?
