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If you work animating for an adult show, you are fucked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=try7cILQJj4
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shit is kino i want more
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dutch in family guy
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>>150884608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgyiUdyhj1c
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>>150884568
sir
please invest in ai sir
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>>150884639
and that's exactly how Dutch would sound on Family Guy
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>>150884568
I remember posting this image and /co/ kept flat out denying.
Katzenberg was 100% right. Next year we will see the biggest layoff in human history.
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What do you think is funnier?
>Stuff written by AI
>Or stuff animated by AI that was written by actual people
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>>150885267
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>>150885339
Not buying their ai shit.
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>>150885371
You're an absolute nobody.
Disney, Sony, Warner Brothers and every other major company that hired artists will fire them all next year.
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>>150884568
Alright, what happened this time?
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>>150885339
We can't let this happen
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>>150884568
>>150884608
GOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING SAAAARRSS!!!
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i laughed at the sonic one
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>>150884568
>If you work animating for an adult show
This finally confirms my theory that AIjeets genuinely think that /co/ is a board that's populated by actual industry people and animators, and not overwhelmingly populated by consumer NEETs
They're literally fed objectively incorrect propaganda for the sake of trying to advertise on a dead end
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>>150885395
Content filters got stronger across the board. Kling, Sora, and Grok are all denying prompts that worked a couple days ago
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>>150885473
Judging by the reactions he's probably right. No one in their right mind would give a fuck except people getting overpaid for doing the same thing.

>noooo animation being done by a different computer software! I must seethe endlessly
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>>150885515
>Judging by the reactions
a full hour later and we haven't even hit 20 replies
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>>150885491
It's all going to be open source one day. It's impossible to gatekeep this tech forever.
The first person to release an 18+ video generator will be a TRILLIONAIRE.
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>>150884568
Didn't they already stop letting people generate copyrighted stuff on Sora 2?
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>>150884568
That's not how the death note works + what the fuck happened to brian and cleveland's voices
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>>150885365
Call those characters that are frankensteins of others "Phooey"s.
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>>150885730
only if the owners complain
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>>150885813
I tried to generate a video of an IP nobody cares of not owned by a multi-billion company and it still stopped me.
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>>150885652
Not unless it's compatible with consumer grade pcs
People still need good gpus to be able to make these things still
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>>150885832
You're forgetting how fast and efficient tech manages to scale down. Like today's smartphones are far more powerful than the bigger and bulkier desktop PC of the 90s and early 2000s. We'll get portable AI we can keep in our pockets in a few more years.
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>>150885395
Sam announced an uncensored version of Sora, blamed past censorship on his own autism. I wish that was a joke
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>>150885823
and which one was?
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>>150886075
dude
tech hasn't ADVANCED in like 12 years. It just gets worse and worse. and things like power generation and storage? those haven't improved in a century.
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>>150885813
which is how it SHOULD work, YOUTUBE!
not only are you not required to do the police's job, you aren't -allowed- to. unqualified.
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>>150886075
That's because cellphones became an integral part of life because humans need long distance communication and there is a market for making new phones with features
We already have AI in our pocket that we use on the regular
There's no market for making AI animations from your phone
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>>150885652
There is way too much money being poured into this shit for them to let open source take off.
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>>150886167
Extreme Dinosaurs
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>>150884568
These all suck ass
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>>150886246
That's flat out wrong. Look at the batteries put to work in EVs.

>>150886289
If you had told boomers that cellphones would one day watch videos or play video games, they would have called you crazy and useless.

And there's definitely a market for ai animations. Making cartoons, even just low budget ones, can cost millions of dollars and take several years to animate. With AI, I can now make my own cartoon, launch them on Youtube and collect ad money and revenue from fans who enjoy it. Repeat this experiment enough times and Hollywood will be replaced.
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>>150886381
>With AI, I can now make my own cartoon, launch them on Youtube and collect ad money and revenue from fans who enjoy it
it's not okay to exploit retarded kids anon
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>>150886381
That's under the assumption that hollywood isn't gonna also cash in on AI animation stuff
Even if you did make AI animations it wouldn't really matter if there's a better one by a different person who knows how to prompt better
Just like how it's been for the past few years
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>>150884568
if it's that easy to animate with prompts, I bet the animators can go home and make their own greatness on SORA
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>>150886308
The cat is out of the bag. Stable Diffusion is an example of training AI and giving it back to the people. In fact, it just means if we want this technology hard enough we can just crowdfund it.
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it's always

the same bot

that's obsessed with hollywood

and spaces posts

like this for

some reason
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>>150886410
>That's under the assumption that hollywood isn't gonna also cash in on AI animation stuff
Their biggest advantage (throwing lots of money at making cartoons) is gone. They'll just quit and find another monopoly to hang out instead.
>Even if you did make AI animations it wouldn't really matter if there's a better one by a different person who knows how to prompt better Just like how it's been for the past few years
I am the one making the better prompts tho.
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>Peter doing the Asuka face
>Stewie as Gendo
Petergellion would actually be kino
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>>150884568

When is the cartoon porn coming?Over thirty years of hentai but nothing for us westerners.
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>>150886494
>>150886471
>bot fucked up
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>>150886500
There's some good AI programs out there but they still require a bit of knowledge to use them. But maybe in 1 or 2 years there will be a "prompt to porn" button that works for normies.
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>>150884639
>Dutch not being a greedy asshole and wanting more MONEY
AI does not grasp the true soul of the characters
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>>150886520
>bot
No I'm just a retarded mobilefag who forgot to click the thread before posting. Try again.
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>>150886246
>things like power generation and storage? those haven't improved in a century.
>nuclear power generation, solar panels, and sodium-ion batteries existed in 1925
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>>150886579
It's amazing how far AI has come. I remember when all the haters said Will Smith Spaghetti was the maximum. Now it can replace artists.
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>>150886620
>Will Smith Spaghetti was the maximum
Still is.
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>>150886620
The day A.I makes a consistent 1 hour and 30 minute animated film is the day when I start worrying about the future of animation.
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>>150886622
Holy YUM
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>>150886672
Human animated movies aren't consistent so that's an easy goal.
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>>150886672
You're gonna have a bad time because it's already possible this second.
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>>150885342
Stuff written by humans, animated by AI

And then having an editor go over shit to make sure it 100% looks, sounds and flows good, cutting animated movies time made by years.
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>>150886328
Holy shit. Related, but not really, I picked up issues of Dinosaurs For Hire.
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>>150888127
Those are rookie numbers.
Written by AI, edited by AI is x4 the savings.
Use the clout to buy up some classic properties with debt.
Spin off the debt into a sink company and sell the main one to the Saudis.

That’s how you make the money.
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>>150888270
>Written by AI, edited by AI is x4 the savings.
What are the expected implications for revenue?
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CAN I MAKE MY OWN TRULLI TALES?!
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>>150888270
AI is a bubble and so is housing. You can't make money if everyone is poor. The goal is more like, kind off what we see in the movie Elyssium.
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>>150888572
I asked AI and it said yes.
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>>150885473
I've had this theory that Rapeape and co. have basically been running a ponzi scheme where they give out false info to advertisers and rake in the shill money even though absolutely zero profits come from this place
None of these sales pitches work because 4chan has long since had a history of people never actually buying shit (see also, Fakku ads from long ago), but the shilling can only continue if they feel like it's somehow working
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>>150888593
>You can't make money if everyone is poor.
Businesses can sell to other businesses. The poor mean fuck all. They've always been useless.
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>>150888638
So, in context, your proposal is that "businesses" will pay to see AI movies?
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>>150888683
They could definitely license it from each other.
Like how Sony owns the Spider-Man rights but lets Disney use it from time to time.
T Poor are completely irrelevant in this transaction.
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>>150885418
why did ai shills think most artist had jobs in the first place?
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>>150888638
thats just trading the bag onto the next sucker
eventually you run out of suckers
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Isn’t there a recent chart about how companies have been expanding the bubble because they keep making loans to each other?
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>>150888810
because they live in a bubble
I know dumb kids will watch anything but Ive already started consuming less and less media
its just odd to me that so many people are pushing AI but the average person just hates it or at best uses it to ask shitpost questions to chatGPT theres always going to be a stigma to it. what happens when no one wants AI? What happens if not one buys the expensive thing? why keep making false hype for a product no one wants?
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>>150889005
>but the average person just hates it
LOL.
Step outside your echo chamber and AI gets gorillions of views and likes.
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>>150884568
Sora to sora 2 was like going from stick figures to mid-tier deviantart. Sora 3 will change everything
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>>150884568
This is true. No one is going to pay someone else to make what I can make. The entertainment industry is fucked.
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No saar, I'm good.
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>>150889033
Botted views
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>>150889033
Are you really going to make the claim that youtube isn't overrun by bots? Like, are you actually going to say all the views on a given youtube video are from humans, and then expect not to get mocked?
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>>150889103
>This content violates our guidelines
No, it won't.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRCDkPqw5hs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5N5MIJFXn0
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>>150886246
>things like storage haven't improved in a century
Are you kidding me? We've got micro SDs that can store 2 TB with crazy write speed when 10 years ago SSDs were just starting to become the norm in personal PC builds.
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>>150889206
I think the mean the storage of *power*.
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Generative AI eats up more energy and money with processing power than literally paying skilled artists. LOL
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>>150888634
Fakku was the biggest waste of time.
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>>150885342
AI can only recycle jokes it's already seen. Now to be fair, Family Guy writers have the same limits.
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>>150889230
On the plus side, this means we're going to run out of fossil fuels possibly within our lifetimes, rather than in the 500 years previously predicted.
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>>150884568
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>>150884568
Shows with good art direction will be fine. So literally just SpongeBob and Hazbin.
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>>150889273
>>150889230
You Luddites always invent the most sensational and full of crap scenarios.
You are just like the people who claimed record music was also going to destroy Earth. Now fuck off.
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>>150889299
How are theaters doing now?
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>>150889173
More goal post moving.
First you guys said "NOBODY LIKES AI!" but when I show you evidence now it's "ACTUALLY THEY'RE BOTS".
Because bots didn't watch human videos either? Get a better argument, jackass.
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>>150884568
Some of those weren't bad, some like the attack on titan one sounded like an actual cutaway from a nu-Family Guy episode.
>>150885267
Yeah this is going to be wild in a few years.
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>>150889230
just another trillion dollars bro we'll make skynet real i swear you'll be glad you didn't miss out
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>>150889341
I don't think it'll be that wild. See, family guy already exists, so AI can learn from it and reproduce it. What AI can't do, and can never do, is create something new.

The only thing AI is really replacing is the actual animation process, which was outsourced to korean sweatshops decades ago.
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Sora still hasnt produced me a lois einhorn wearing a bikini walking down a bikini contest stage as they turn with their tucked dick bulge showing so ai still isnt up to par
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>>150888810
They think it's like AI replacing coders
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>>150888057
>no proof
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>>150889358
AI isn't replacing coders, but it is reducing man-hours required for projects. You still need a human with code knowledge supervising this shit to comply with laws and regulations.
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>>150889352
>What AI can't do, and can never do, is create something new.
Show us your creativity boy. Make something "new" for us.
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>>150889278
That's not how the Death Note works.
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>>150884568
I really like the Sonic one, just wish Peter's face wasn't so strange.
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>>150889385
No my brain is too poisoned from years of media consumption to come up with anything original. Which is actually the starting state for AI.
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>>150889401
So in other words, you're a lying faggot.
Because AI can make never before seen people all the time.
https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/
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>>150884568
That Pokemon song is really catchy
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>>150889411
That website was made in 2019 you worthless shill. It's not fucking AI it's just image editing.
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>>150884568
i unironically liked the hazbin and sonic one
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>>150889398
That's because it's not using data from peter's face to make the mouth, it's using a mouth from a different episode where an anthropomorphized object that's shaped roughly the same as the cutout had a mouth.
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>>150889411
>humans are a new thing
retard
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>>150889425
You are an idiot.
>StyleGAN2 is a GAN that creates realistic images by using disentangled latent spaces, enabling efficient image manipulation and editing. Generative adversarial networks consist of two components: a generator that creates images and a discriminator that evaluates the quality of the generated images. StyleGAN2, a state-of-the-art GAN, has been used in various applications, such as image manipulation, image-to-image translation, and data augmentation. It has been particularly successful in generating realistic images, thanks to its ability to disentangle different aspects of the image, such as texture, shape, and lighting.
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>>150884568
Oh no! Those poor manatees!
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>>150889455
>enabling efficient image manipulation and editing
Do you read the things you post? It's not creating something new, it's blending together parts of photos of other humans.
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>>150889451
So you can draw Humans 2.0? Show us what it looks like then.
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>>150884568
Fun fact, every video generated in Sora costs the company $5 to make. They will NEVER make their money back on this.
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>>150889469
Here’s a list of notable works that explore future human evolution through various lenses, showcasing how different authors and creators imagine our species' journey.
"Brave New World" Aldous Huxley Depicts a society where humans are genetically engineered and conditioned for specific roles.
"The Time Machine" H.G. Wells Features a future where humanity has split into two species: the Eloi and the Morlocks.
"Dune" Frank Herbert Explores the evolution of humans to adapt to the harsh environments of different planets.
"X-Men" (Comics & Films) Marvel Comics Showcases mutants who possess enhanced abilities due to mutations in their DNA.
"Gattaca" Andrew Niccol A society where genetic engineering dictates social class, focusing on eugenics.
"Altered Carbon" Richard K. Morgan Examines human consciousness transfer and the implications of immortality and identity.
"The Matrix" Lana & Lilly Wachowski Features humans living in a simulated reality, raising questions about what it means to be human.
"Neuromancer" William Gibson Envisions a future where humans enhance their capabilities through cybernetic and virtual technologies.
"Oryx and Crake" Margaret Atwood Explores bioengineering and its consequences on humanity and the environment.
"Cloud Atlas" David Mitchell Weaves multiple timelines showing humanity's evolution and interconnectedness over centuries.
"A Canticle for Leibowitz" Walter M. Miller Jr. Depicts a post-apocalyptic future where humanity evolves again after a nuclear catastrophe.
"Children of Men" P.D. James Imagines a world facing extinction due to mass infertility, exploring societal implications.
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>>150889352
It'll be wild in the sense that entire new episodes can be made featuring good enough jokes and dialogue to be accepted by the masses as debatably better than the current product (modern Family Guy) which is made by actual people. I don't support AI as a replacement, however with or without Hollywood integrating AI, AI is going to be able to stand on itself eventually.
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>>150889463
>Do you read the things you post? It's not creating something new, it's blending together parts of photos of other humans.
You dumbass, AI isn't using any photos. It always starts with generated noise and maps vectors to them NOT FOUND IN ITS TRAINING SET.
Every face is thus a new creation.
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>>150889493
>AI isn't using any photos
Then what was it trained on?
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>>150889479
Here's the most accurate book:
1984: George Orwell depicts the one true future of humanity, where 99% of humans are reduced to cattle that exist only to work and suffer for the elites.
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>>150889498
That doesn't make sense, because AI is going to replace 99% of human labor.
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>>150889479
>"The Matrix" Lana & Lilly Wachowski Features humans living in a simulated reality, raising questions about what it means to be human.
How the fuck is that a new human? You morons are high on copium.
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>>150889033
>AI is stealing music! AI has no soul!
>uses AI for their videos and artwork
musicians are idiots
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>>150889495
are you allowed to use your eyes and draw from what you have seen before?
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>>150889503
Don't blame me, blame the AI i used to generate that list.
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>>150889495
>Then what was it trained on?
That has nothing to do with its generated output.
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>>150889513
https://mindmatters.ai/2024/02/cyber-plagiarism-when-ai-systems-snatch-your-copyrighted-images/

haha yeah it just used its eyes bro
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>>150889523
So should every Human fanartist get arrested then? There is no difference between AI drawing a copyrighted character and someone drawing porn of their favourite Disney or Nick character.
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>>150889499
And then all of the unnecessary cattle will be tortured to death, and this world will finally belong to the rich and powerful forever and ever, and evll will have finally won, and Lord Moloch, the insane demon god who hates everything good, will laugh and laugh and laugh as He permanently ruins the entire cosmos out of sheer spite. A happy ending.
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>>150889531
Keep moving those goalposts, rajesh.
>Training data has nothing to do with its generated output
I can make flipping an image in paint sound complex if I talk about the math involved, the fact is you put data in, and you get the same thing out. AI does not think, it does not create, all it can do is recognize a pattern and attempt to fit data to that pattern.
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>>150889553
I can ask any human to draw The Simpsons. It's not the gotcha you think it is.
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>>150889577
But they didn't ask it to draw the simpsons.
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>>150889580
Who is "they"? The Human artist?
They admitted it in the search results.
"I've started drawing Simpsons fanart lately. Here's one I've made today!"
The same applies for any commission as well. Or are you going to play stupid here?
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>>150889604
The prompt is RIGHT THERE
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>>150886075
>We'll get portable AI we can keep in our pockets in a few more years.
Unless it hits a wall like self driving cars. Not saying it will. But LLMs are slowing down because they've run out of training data and have resorted to "synthetic" data as a stand in. Results of this practice TBD.
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>>150889614
That prompt is stupid because everyone knows or associates The Simpson's popularity with that of 90s.
But change the time period and the connection falls apart.
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>>150889646
Yes now it's Lego box art.
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>>150889637
They're not slowing down and synthetic data is completely fine. An image like this looks better than 99% of humans who could never draw the same.
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>>150889651
Or a generic cartoon character. Lego didn't invent the color yellow.
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>>150885339
AI will cut profits from the animation industry by 100%.
Lol
Can just fure ul the content maker 3000 and get a film thats not pushing faggotry Satanism or any propaganda.
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>>150885395
Turns out OpenAI subscriptions in EU have been flatlining since April. It's why we've been getting relentless spam waves and gimmicks (see Ghibli filters) since then, to distract from the fact that OpenAI's "growth" is actually stagnant at best.

Funny enough I pointed this out on a previous thread, and it died IMMEDIATELY afterwards. Which only confirms that these threads are glorified advertising.
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>>150889678
Good.
We can eliminate the corrupt and talentless animation types snd brew our own ai locally.
Wil also end up taking jobs away from online shills and allow us to block them instantly.
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>>150889678
Yeah but...who cares? Wow, it's a picture of Ahsoka doing nothing. What have you achieved here? Why does it exist? It doesn't tell a story and it wasn't something you put any effort into so it's not a personal accomplishment in any sense. It's just one of a billion other pictures of her.
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>>150889731
Nobody cares about Europe. They're barely relevant, especially when it comes to AI.
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>>150889739
>brew our own ai locally
Again...why? You aren't going to make a show. You might make some porn but it's not going to be good, it's never good.
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>>150889767
So I dont have to waste time wading through shit content made by other ai users or current content made by delusional creeps who hate me.

Content and low wage internet job age us dead too. AI will replace humans and AI will also nake it impossible for those people to work due to smart blocking.
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>>150889742
Since when did everything in life need a story?
>Wow, this bread I bought from the store was made in a factory. No one will eat this stuff over bakery ones.
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>>150889812
Bread has a purpose. It's to be consumed.
What purpose does the AI-generated picture of Ahsoka serve? Why does it exist? What makes it different from the five billion other pictures of Ahsoka? Why would you spend money to create it?
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>>150889750
>nobody cares about 1/3rd the entire world economy
>nobody cares about adoption rates for a tech that's been shoved down everyone's throats is proving to be abysmal
>nobody cares despite tech companies literally bribing EU legislators to give them everything they need to succeed, and they're STILL failing
Next level cope. In ither news, Sora2 has proven to be the straw breaking the camels back in terms of Hollywood finally pushing back against OpenAI. Yet more customers are leaving in droves, but in your words "nobody cares'.

Lol. Lmao, even.
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How do you get in on one of these video making AIs, anyways?
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>>150889851
"1/3rd economy" but they still beg the USA to save them from the Russians. That wouldn't be the case if they were somehow superior or relevant.
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>>150889876
You pay a monthly subscription for access and then right after you do they lock it down so you can't actually make any of the shit they used to advertise it.
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>>150884568
Why should I watch something that someone clearly didn't want to make
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>>150889848
>What purpose does the AI-generated picture of Ahsoka serve?
By default it's already already a prettier and sexier version of Ahsoka that Disney would never allow under their tenure. And an AI image of that quality is much cheaper and better than a Human artist would charges hundreds of dollars for it.
So its purpose has been served.
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>>150889888
pay...
PAY FOR AI?
BWAHAAAAAAAHA!!
I csn generate that shit locally nigga!
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>>150889936
No, no you can't. OpenAI stopped being open source last year and other models followed suit. You're stuck at DALLE-3 or you need to be lucky enough for a newer model to leak.
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>>150889944
Enough open source stuff to work with now.
What else can it do that cant be be fone with what's free right now?
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>>150889956
I dunno. I'm sure it's something otherwise why would they keep making new models?
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>>150884568
I'm not going to lie the fnaf and hazbin bits got me.
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>>150884568
I'm not paying for 30 seconds of film
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>>150885339
the quibi guy?
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>>150889972
Yup. Chinese will continue to release info because the Israeli states of America are unilaterally STEALING all information from the net.

Best part?
Every dumb old and stupid fuck is pushing something that is going to end their jobs and power.
Its hilarious to me.
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>>150889936
What's the tool to locally handle txt-to-vid/img-to-vid?
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>>150889884
Wow, I'm sure it took a lot of effort to think up that non-sequitur. Whatever Microsoft is paying you for damage control, it's clearly too much.
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>>150884568
Tasteless faggot detected
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>>150884568
>more of a cul de sac situation, really
Lol, that is a solid joke.
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>>150885652
>open source
>trillionaire
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>>150889333
>YT is owned by Google
>Google is one of the biggest investors in this AI and has every incentive to artifically push it
Yeah, those "views" are totally legit.
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>>150886381
Nobody wants to watch your slop. The AI tech appeals to people who want to make the slop but there isn’t a market of people who want to consume it.
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>>150890108
kek, knew that it was some indian that was being accused the moment the other guy was complaining about his stuff being stolen
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Is funny how even their best stuff is full of weird shit. In the end this will probably never be used more than a toy to generate 30 seconds videos because the moment you ask to make anything longer than that it starting shitting the bed hard.

I'm also not that interested in watching on an emotional level that is very interesting to me to think about how many other people would feel the same. The other day I found this really cool music artist that had an amazing output, he did used ai images on his youtube videos that I chose to ignore, he was a musician, asking him to add a ton of original artwork for every video he posted was pretty dumb. But his output sure was amazing, he did an album every 2 to 3 months. Turns out he uses AI on his process, and despite not even being sure of how much, it somehow ruined his music to me, I can't listen to it anymore without thinking that is just slop and I don't have the same emotional investment to care about his music anymore, even if I'm not even sure how much of his work is AI and how much is just his own doing. Is interesting to think AI on this level, since plenty of people like art because they admire the skill and craftsmanship behind it, not everyone but a good amount.

I wonder what that says about you as a person, if you only care about consuming something not caring about the source or finding so important that otherwise the entire thing becomes trash to you. If AI ever takes over it will be a real divide between people. But for me this is just late stage consumerism at it's peak, in a way is nothing new, just now mass produced.
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>>150888972
Yep, the current economy is actually the biggest circlejerk in human history. No money is actually being made, it's just getting shuffled around to look impressive.
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>>150884722
Yes, you should short it since the bubble is very over inflated
Doesn't make this not fun
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>>150889739
You can learn to draw, you know
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>>150884568
Writers are fucked
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>>150886246
In some ways yes. Because we aren't doing anything new and aren't colonizing the moon.
In other ways no. Because computers are better now.
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>>150889401
Ironically anon, you require consuming media to create something new.
Tolkien didn't invent anything.
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>>150890396
If you can't tell the difference between inspiration and being derivative to the point of originality instinctively is safe to say you are stupid or more likely your brain is really rotten.

I mean, just look at the AI thread here in the board, the motherfuckers in theory have to power to come up with anything they want and the best they still do are pin ups of girls doing random crap. Artists get alway with it because the skill behind to produce the image plus their personal touch and flare would be the appeal, here is just a exercise on futility from people I'm not even sure have a complete human soul.
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Check out this sweet totally legit Family Guy Collector's Edition DVD Boxed Set!
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>>150890189
So there's both "no market for AI" but also "it's wiping out art jobs that were supported by the market"?
No just fuck off. You morons still can't can make a proper argument after all these years.
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>>150885652
gatekeeping is trivial, since you need literally millions of dollars of nvidia gpus, a datacenter with terabytes of ram and input videos exabytes in size to train a model the size of sora 2. no, you can't just do it slower.
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>>150886075
you're forgetting that smartphone technology plateaued for the last 10 years.
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>>150890404
> Artists get alway with it because the skill behind to produce the image plus their personal touch and flare would be the appeal,
What fucking skill? If a robot can replace you it means you were always fucking useless. That's not anything to be proud of, you contributed nothing at all.
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>>150890475
There’s no correlation, tard, and the companies firing their workforce are going to find out
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>>150890524
Find out what? You have zero pros against AI. Businesses can ditch you guys and not give a damn what comes next.
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>>150890524
Forgot to post pic related. We saw what happened the last time employees chimped out. All they did was speedrun their own unemployment. Companies switched to AI and never looked back.
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>>150890566
>Let's derail the subject matter of our protest with gay fanart >:3c
lol they really shot themselves in the foot with that one
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>>150890476
There is already an Open Source Sora project and it only costs $200,000.
Again, if the will is there then people can crowdsource anything.
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>>150885418
if nobody has money and has to work at Walmart, who is buying at Walmart?

>>150890476
You can do it with "volunteer distributed computing projects" e.g. people run some software at home that donates some of their CPU/GPU time.
So now the entire world is basically your datacenter, anyone that wants to contribute can. There's no risk of contaminating the model because the software can stream the training data rather than asking the volunteer to provide their own. You're just donating a bit of machine time.
See Folding@Home for example: https://foldingathome.org/
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>there isn’t a market of people who want to consume it.
do you know that kids don't care about the quality of the product right?
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>>150884568
none of these are funny
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>>150890497
The skill you don't fucking have
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>>150884568
Someone should sent this to Seth. Would love to see his reaction
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>>150886246
Anon I think the AI stuff is fanciful optimism at best, but come the fuck on. My phone blows the fuck out of what I had back in 2013, my computer is objectively orders of magnitude faster than my computer was back then, cars have built-in computer systems to improve everything from backing up to fuel efficiency, I could go on. The last 12 years have seen insane strides in technology, you have to be a bitter pessimist to even pretend otherwise. And the power generation/storage thing is just straight up fucking horseshit, the lithium ion battery in a fucking Nintendo DC from 20 years ago blew the everliving mother fuck out of anything from fucking 1925.

A lot of shit sucks today but it's mostly cultural and media-oriented. Technology has continued to progress and you being a whiny bitch doesn't change that even if AI is extremely overhyped.
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>>150890198
This shit warms my heart, the super aggressive shilling is all because AI is a fucking paper tiger luhWOOF
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>>150888762
>They could definitely license it from each other.
For what purpose? In the real world, this is done so that showings generate views, so that advertisers will buy ads seen by these viewers, because the viewers spend trillions of dollars per year buying things. If only businesses have money, why would anyone bother with this?
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>>150889330
Better than ever, apparently.
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>>150892357
You know what, good for them.
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>>150888634
Anon 4chan was owned by a chinese toy company for most of hiroshimoot's reign.
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>>150889352
>What AI can't do, and can never do, is create something new.
Do you think that it's possible for "new" things to come into existence? If so, what do mean by that such that AI can't make new things?
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>>150892357
>>150892409
>Chart cuts off in 2011
Anons, that was 14 years ago...
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>>150891434
>>150886075
NTA and he's retarded but it's objectively true that Moore's law has broken and progress in computing power has become logarithmic. You can only pack so many tiny transistors together before heat makes functioning impossible and/or you literally run out of space. Current transistors are 10 nanometers wide, that's a couple dozen atoms.

Generating video of any kind, much less with convoluted AI processes, requires a lot of memory and processing time and always will. At best you will see pre-baked and heavily over-fitted mini-models with a single specific task that you download from a main server beforehand. Realistically AI would remain in massive data centers and be accessed remotely by clients.

Well, actually realistically AI has power and resource requirements we won't be capable of fulfilling for much longer so all of this is moot but I guess it's a fun exercise. Actually realistically you're going to be scavenging for small creatures to eat most of the time.
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>>150889903
So it only exists to further the latest installment of the culture wars?

So these A.I. companies are supposed to count on a "customer base" of terminally online people with no money, no prospects, no creativity, and no real goals or aspirations that aren't driven by spite and joyless/sexless gooning to compensate for their self-destructive porn habits?
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>>150892604
Anon there is no plan.
Nobody knows what AI is supposed to actually do.
The C-suites did their job of hyping up ways to cut costs in business (read: fire people) and the influencers did their job of advertising the brand but nothing they pitched has real applications.
The investors and owners literally think they're building an AI god that will:
1) build them a personal utopia
2) protect their bunkers after "the event" so they don't have to rely on human security
or
3) enslave/kill the entire human race

They're all convinced their competitor is gonna fuck up and do 3, which justifies crazy lies and expenses and reckless development.
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>>150892531
We're actually still following Moore's Law because we're still figuring out more clever configurations of how to utilize those transistors now. It was declared 10 years ago that Moore's Law is dead but computers keep following the general "doubling every 18 months" principle regardless. Granted we're still eventually going to hit some kind of hard limit, and that's a big reason that so much investigation is going into quantum computing right now. We're basically hoping that it can replace modern transistors in the same way that they replaced vacuum tubes and basically restart the whole process again.
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>>150892487
And that image was published in 1930
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>>150892531
>it's objectively true that Moore's law has broken
Looks pretty good in pic related.

>progress in computing power has become logarithmic.
Any trend can be expressed in logarithmic terms, just like it can be expressed in linear or exponential terms.

>Current transistors are 10 nanometers wide, that's a couple dozen atoms.
10 nanometers is about fifty atoms of silicon. And "10nm scale" as a marketing name doesn't refer to physical features any more. A current state-of-the-art "3 nanometer" transistor has a gate pitch of about fifty nanometers.

>Realistically AI would remain in massive data centers and be accessed remotely by clients.
You might check out the AI content threads on this site some time.
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>>150892682
>that's a big reason that so much investigation is going into quantum computing right now
I could be very wrong but as I understand it quantum computing isn't about atomic-level transistors/switches or generally faster computing but is instead a way to brute force very specific equations (like encryption keys) by essentially testing multiple solutions at the same time.
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>>150889273
Good. One step closer to death. I'm so tired.
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>>150892706
>Any trend can be expressed in logarithmic terms, just like it can be expressed in linear or exponential terms.
stopped reading here because you're clearly too smart by half and have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
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>>150892531
>it's objectively true that Moore's law has broken
No, it hasn't. It's actually defied predictions that it'd stop and has continued to go at the exact same clip. The last 15 years have seen fundamental changes in how we design circuits that have allowed it to continue, it's actually really fascinating. It SHOULD have ended in 2015 if we just kept making them the same old way, but we didn't.
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>>150892725
That's more or less it. It's not a replacement for classical computation even in principle, since the quantum processor is embedded in a classical data-handling system. But it does look like it would make certain kinds of things a lot faster to compute.
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>>150892725
That's what it's best for and what it's been practically used for to date. A ton of the research has been trying to figure out ways to make it useful for consumer and industrial purposes, which has been making progress but it's still unclear if it can truly be scaled down to the point where you'll have a quantum PC one day. Signs currently point to "likely yes but not for a while and maybe still no".
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>>150892744
I'd just like to point out how funny it is to chart server equipment when we're talking about phones
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>>150892779
The conversation is about tech in general, people are just bringing up phones because they're probably the most ubiquitous piece of tech in day-to-day living.
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>>150892789
No, the conversation is about whether AI will fit in your pocket in ten years.
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>>150892779
Moore's law refers to the trend over time of transistor count at the minimum price per transistor of computer processors. If those are server chips, those are what determine compliance with the law. If those are phone chips, those are what determine compliance with the law.
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>>150892779
Anon, it applies to literally everything that uses a transistor because of how they scale.
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>>150892824
Anon, it doesn't apply if the techniques used to make the server equipment are not viable for mass market products
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I've always wondered how many former religious fundamentalists jumped onto the AI ship, cause a lot of them really seem to think it's some form of sorcery and not hard science with the way they talk it up
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>>150892802
The conversation that's currently being had is in response to an anon claiming that all technology has stalled for the last 13 years, even if he was responding to a claim about pocket AI. Keep up.
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>>150892660
Its more that I'm surprised just at how stupid this all really is.

This is a legitimate advancement in machine learning, and the main drivers of this advancement are socially maladjusted nerds in ill-fitting business suits and three-card-monte grifters stealing from their parent's wallets and purses. And all of them trying to jumpstart billion dollar industries with no real plan or market demand behind them from a customer base of soul-dead gooners and lonely, angry shut-ins who's lives are consumed by the dumbest shit they don't even pay for or actually care about.

It's really sad and pathetic and insane, the more I think about it.
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>>150892733
Suppose something doubles. It was initially quantity X. We can express the new quantity Y in various ways:
Addition Y=X+X
Multiplication Y=2X
Exponentiation Y=X^Z where Z is some constant

Saying that a change is logarithmic, exponential, or whatever, says nothing AT ALL about the quantity of the change. To be meaningful, some indication of quantity needs to be added.
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>>150892852
That's always been a thing in this sector. Before LLM's got big I did AI chatbot work for a large telephony company. We basically had an automated system that would read the user input and ascribe an ID to the meaning of each word (every word has multiple definitions/contexts so the major work for it was determining which one was being used when), and then we had explicitly written webs of scripts that the system would navigate by using the ID's.
99% of the time I spent talking in sales and spec meetings was explaining that while our demo was indeed very impressive and we could do more like it, it wasn't literally a sapient machine. They'd spend five seconds using a personal assistant app that was basically a phone tree with some text normalization and go WOW A HUMAN LEVEL INTELLIGENCE

>>150892909
I really hope you're taking the piss, anon.
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>>150892888
>This is a legitimate advancement in machine learning, and the main drivers of this advancement are socially maladjusted nerds in ill-fitting business suits and three-card-monte grifters stealing from their parent's wallets and purses
Welcome to technology
It's always been this way
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>>150884568
>you're a blue rat, and you're calling me names. Have some manners
ok this caught me off guard
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I'm a simple lad, I think technology has regressed because those fucking bastards kept nerfing google search ever since the early 2010's
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Friendly reminder that not a single one of these corporations internally classifies this stuff as true AI and views these as effectively massive data sorting algorithms, with their intent being to use them to figure out how to make actual true AI. This is a stated goal of development for all of them. All of this shilling for these weird animated clips and AI-generated images is just them jangling keys to keep the public engaged while they try to figure out how to actually make sapient machines.
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>>150892924
>I really hope you're taking the piss, anon.
Suppose a talking head says that there is "exponentially more" of something. That doesn't actually tell you what the change is. Exponents can be large, small, negative, etc. It's commonly used to imply that something significant is happening without having to justify that impression. Actually understanding how math works is important for understanding quantities, relationships, and trends.
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>>150892992
Anon I'm not reading your post
You should understand the difference between growth being logarithmic, linear, or exponential
I pray you are autistic and not just wasting everyone's time
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>>150885267
The future in one picture
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>>150893001
>You should understand the difference between growth being logarithmic, linear, or exponential
I do. None of this conversation has been about TRENDS and curve-fitting. It has been about discrete changes from one quantity to a second quantity.
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>>150884568
While it is still obviously AI, how the fuck does it catch Seth's inflections so well?
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>>150884568
That one for ancient Rome literally feels like a cutaway straight from the show.
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>>150893048
Voice inflections are a pattern that can be quantified and reproduced.
https://youtu.be/KCwzMT652hM
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>>150893048
Audio training is bizarrely one of the easiest things for AI to do. You can train AI on as little as 15 seconds of voice samples and have it reproduce somewhat convincing audio.
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>>150893021
>None of this conversation has been about TRENDS and curve-fitting. It has been about discrete changes from one quantity to a second quantity.
That is incorrect.
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>>150884568
The Hazbin gag had me laugh and think about it the hardest. I don't know anything about Hazbin outside of
>Charlie is the demon princess of hell
>She sings like a Disney princess and works at the hotel
>It's a hotel in hell
>The show is some kind of trainwreck shitshow
That gag didn't go any deeper than what I already knew about it. Which says that Hazbin is so surface deep it works better as just an idea or a meme than an actual series
also the Charlie in that cutaway was really cute
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>>150893390
>>150892531
>Moore's law has broken and progress in computing power has become logarithmic.
There is no mention of what interval or range is being referred to. "Progress" does imply at least two points, but not necessarily more than that. Anon is suggesting that some recent change can be described as "logarithmic". Well sure. Any change can be described in terms of logarithms, just like it can be described in terms of other functions. As an exponential relationship between time and transistor count, Moore's Law is ALREADY a logarithmic relationship between transistor count and time. Anon did not make any case about why a logarithmic description would be better than any other, or what quantitative observational difference the supposed recent change to a logarithmic relationship is supposed to represent.

There has been no argument about what specific function best fits observed data. If that was the intention, there hasn't been enough description given yet to articulate a point. For example, what logarithmic base is being invoked here? What data points are alleged to be in violation of the previous trend, and why would any specific function type be a good fit? Has anon performed a regression analysis?
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>>150884568
>Ai is the futu- oh...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itbc12qXr30
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>>150886620
Or when people swore 1000000% with absolute certainty that accurate hands are 1000000000000% impossible and will never ever be solved. They got MAD if you said anything to the contrary, called you stupid, called you blind, etc.
It was an absolute objective fact to them that hands are completely unsolvable.
Hell, people still do it sometimes for some reason, swearing that literally the only reason hands look good in AI now is that people are rerolling 99999999 and burning down 99999999999 rainforests to get one that looks good.

Bonus points: when people swore Glaze and Nightshade actually did anything. Some idiots still fall for it though.
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>>150894263
why are you posting this when you know is a two year old video?
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>>150884568
Family Guy and Simpsons have been AI long before AI if you know what I mean.
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>>150889553
Nigga, if you asked a real, living artist to draw a "popular 90s animated cartoon with yellow skin", you'd get the Simpsons too. There's not enough "data" for a person to think of anything else.
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>>150889678
>An image like this looks better than 99% of humans who could never draw the same.

No it doesn't. It looks like an AI made it, it has no soul.
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>>150894263

This is better. AI was unironically humorous when it's making fucked up shit by accident.
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>>150892472
Besides the fact the bottom shape looks like the pedo symbol, what exactly am I supposed to be seeing here?
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>>150892888
I went to a science conference at my local uni. They're using the LLM technology for some upcoming medical stuff. I think one of them was to do with finding genes, since apparently LLM are good at recognising things? don't know if the use case will appear later since it was just someone's masters thesis, but there were various people mentioning using large language models in various cases.
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>>150894688
That's an AI-designed antenna for small satellites. It works, and works well, but does not operate according to human antenna design practices. That is, it's not just a new design, it's an unprecedented design.
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>>150886158
Because Sam's not fucking stupid. No one wants AI if they can only generate what amounts to stock images with no degree of parody or satire of copyrighted material or real world people/events.
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>>150894472
I'd draw Spongebob.
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>>150894881
>premiered July 1999
Technically correct.
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>>150892888
It's all a symptom of a larger societal issue, in that the dumbest people alive who have nothing to contribute to society have failed their way upwards to the highest positions of power. The current head of Google is a complete retard that irreparably ruined their primary product because he's obsessed with "growth" over a sustainable business. The dude is a worthless grifter, who stumbled his way onto being the head of Yahoo and destroyed it, only to somehow stumbled his way onto doing the same with GOOGLE.

Business Idiots are holding the planet hostage.

>>150892964
You can thank Prabhakar Raghavan for that.
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>>150894472
Unless they're showing you a Google search they're not going to draw near exact Simpsons promo material that already exists.
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>>150884568
Depressing
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>>150895020
The best kind of correct.
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>>150894769
i don't think antenna-design ai has anything to do with video-generation ai
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>>150894770
Except that's what it's being used for by the majority of it's users. Whether it's video or audio or typed, it's largely generic and only starting to reach parity with the generic memes/porn/fanart/ragebait/shitposting that people already do.

And if it was possible for any innovation with these programs, they'd just get buried under the terabytes and petabytes of generated, generic slop.

Think about it. Billions of dollars and entire database centers are dedicating terabytes or even petabytes of space to generating generic memes and generic porn that are barely starting to be on par with the most mediocre shit that already exists.

>>150894748
We could be dedicating these programs to finding patterns so that we can find and manufactures cures or even create a passable recreation of historical records that were lost.

But fuck that. We got to generate gooner bait of someone waifu so we can shitpost in another meaningless thread to continue another round of the culture wars.
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>>150895276
The claim was that AI can't make new things, period. The antenna was just an example from outside the context of this discussion, where AIs being able to make new things is regarded as obvious and taken for granted. If you don't think that video-generation AI can make new things, can you articulate what you mean by that such that "making new things" is something that humans can do?
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>>150895635
Large Language models are being used for languages

https://home.dartmouth.edu/news/2025/04/language-preservations-efforts-get-ai-boost

>The researchers used samples from the manually translated dataset to train the GPT-4 Turbo large language model. They found that with just 35 samples, the model began to get a grasp of the script and was able to translate test phrases from Chinese to Nüshu that were not part of the training data. Their work in creating an expert-validated Nüshu-Chinese digital dataset is the first of its kind.

>“Our work demonstrates that generative AI and large language models significantly lower barriers to revitalizing endangered languages, rapidly producing valuable linguistic resources even from minimal data,” says Vosoughi. But, he says, despite their transformative potential, these models inherently carry the risk of introducing biases from dominant cultures, potentially distorting or oversimplifying nuanced cultural identities.

>“Active participation from native speakers and linguists is essential to ensure linguistic authenticity and cultural fidelity. AI and community expertise are both fundamental for meaningful preservation efforts,” says Vosoughi.


There's probably a whole bunch of scientific uses that the general public doesn't know about yet because they're still in the proposal stage or they're midway through making their paper. I hope the general public will know about them sometime later.
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Man, nobody hates animators more than /co/.
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>>150896342
because /co/ is MAD JELLY
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>>150894472
Again, not the point jeet-kun-do. The point is it can only shuffle around and vomit out the data it's fed.

Generative AI is not fucking intelligent. It is not your golden clad machine god. It is a labor saving device. It will not revolutionize anything, at best it will save some money on repetitive tasks.
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>>150885339
Katzenberg? The man who had finished animation sequences edited out of Black Cauldron?
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>>150896342
And yet, even the worst takes on /co/ are better than whatever Xitter is shitting through the web.
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>>150896359
>>150895767
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>>150896342
Every thread with an AI related OP is always full of posts shitting on artists, animators, even drawfags. This doesn't happen outside of these threads, where AI is not the topic. Given that everything /co/ related is drawn, /co/ does not generally hate artists. If anything /co/ hates (modern) writers much more yet I never hear anyone gloating about the prospect of AI replacing Bendis in the same way as the pro-AI artist hate. It is not organic.
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>>150884568
reminiscent of YTPs. For sure they're going to use this to generate concepts for the actual show. Some of the lazier ones might even just straight up use the AI result as the final product.
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>>150893522
He should have called it a TGIFridays, since that restaurant is dead.
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>>150896622
>>150895767
That's not a "new thing" and its' not even remotely the same application. This would be like having the AI go to the "Create a Family Guy Character" website and telling it to make the character that looks the most like Sam Altman. It would do it, because it has the relevant data and a defined task to accomplish.
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>>150884608
Only child rapists say kino.

Bye.
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>>150897074
>If you don't think that video-generation AI can make new things, can you articulate what you mean by that such that "making new things" is something that humans can do?
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>>150884568
>"This reminds of the time I had a stroke from watching too many Sora 2 videos."
>not even trained on the episode where he had a stroke

AI hackfrauds blown out forever. 1:05 if you want to compare.



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