Imagine that Korra's story as we know her is decanonized and you are commissioned to make a new version of Korra. Whether it's just rewriting certain parts of the story to make it work better or doing a total reboot to his story...How would you fix Korra, her characters and story? Would you give it a different personality? Would you change the entire cast of characters or just some? What changes would you make?
>>150939630Hmmm...
>>150939630>address the issues raised by Amon's equalist movement>Make learning Airbending a story in stead of a glitch in her powers>Remove Vaatu and Rava entirely>Establish Kuvira earlier so her nationalist movement gains traction in the plot sooner>Zaheer is perfect already
>>150940193>>Zaheer is perfect alreadyEh.... not really, see the problem with Zaheer is that he's a much more fitting foil to Aang's character rather than Korra's. Nothing about Korra's character would suggest that she wouldn't be ok with violently removing tyrants from power (that's what she does for half the show) so the primary conflict with Zaheer would have to change. Also, lose the flying it's stupid
>>150939630Wouldn't. It was perfect
>>150940255Wrong
Korra is a street urchin brought up on the mean streets of Republic City. She has lived in poverty. The White Lotus want to shape her to maintain the status quo of balance but because of her upbringing she seeks to change things. I'd explore all of the themes the show failed to do:>Amon equalist movement has a point. >The modern world does conflict with the spirit world. >Archaic regimes are problems.>Chaos and new forces rise in the power vacuum.How about this, Korra rejects the White Lotus and wants to be the Avatar of Change but she inadvertently inspires someone like Zaheer to murder and overthrow the Earth Kingdom. The series could explore it's theme and have Korra navigate the changing world. Slightly change the side cast, maybe one is a police officer in Republic City? Benders/non benders. Get rid of pro bending and fix the romance bullshit. Korra is street urchin, discovers her powers fighting local bender gangsters. Explore the post Avatar world of the former Fire colonies, stuff like that. The theme is: Aang restored balance, Korra seeks change.
>>150940193>Remove Vaatu and Rava entirelyI like the ideas you put forward, but what's wrong with Vaatu and Rava? I think they are one of the few things that did not completely ruin the canon... Or do you say it to keep the mystery of how the avatar originated?
Keep the villains personalities and goals exactly as how they were written but add a few writing differences to change the context of certain scenes. Have it so Unalaq is upset how historically when Raava reincarnates into a water bender, there is always a higher chance she chooses a southern water bender over a northern one and Unalaq takes personal beef with this because the southern water tribe is undeserving of the Avatar's power when a large amount of money and resources sent to the White Lotus specifically comes from the North Pole. Unalaq's issue with Raava is that he feels she's biased simply choosing Tonraq's daughter because she was born in the south not because Korra has done anything to earn that power. Make it like that scene from Unicorn Warriors where the 2 warriors that were actually prepped and ready to have their bodies be used for the reincarnation process hear that Copernicus fucked up and chose the wrong vessels. Have it so Unalaq's plan is a completely psychotic plot of wanting to literally rip Raava from Korra's body and force her into his but results in creating Vaatu instead so Vaatus is the biproduct of Raava's wrath instead of being her counter balance that the writers assume isnt important if it stopped existing at all in favor of more light. Amon's plot is now a long LONG term plot that goes thru 3 and a half seasons. Each new issue that effects the Avatar only ties back to Amon's point on how Harmonic Convergence is the universes way of mocking the existence of non benders and how the spirits did this deliberately that they can so little about humans and even less about humans with no bending powers that on an evolutionary and spiritual level, non benders are feeling less and less likely to protect themselves on a survival level which only makes the equalists more marketable in their causeAnd the last and most important thing? Asami is evil. Like she needs to be EVIL and she needs to be evil ASAP.
>>150940326I liked
>>150940430NTA, but the spirits of evil and good clash with the asian theme
>>150940444Why make Asami evil? Since I'm curious to know why
>>150940497Because that was the original plan. Asami was going to be Hiroshi's spy who observes the Avatar and reports weaknesses to her father to report back to Amon.
>>150940497that was the og plan, and she would be far more of an actual character if that was the casethis series needed a zuko or azula type foil and asami could have been that.>>150940512beat me to it
Make the entire series about religion and bending in an increasingly technological world where old traditions need to change while technology needs to make room for those traditions and beliefs. Or I just get a certain porn game creator to write the scripts. He does as good a job as the original writers.
>>150940477nta but they can be fixed by making them more eldritch and amoral, maybe chaos and balance instead of good and evil? Or instead of being opposing cosmic forces, Rava is just the Avatar spirit given consciousness and Vaatu is some unrelated ancient demon king who the first Avatar sealed away
>>150940714This already feels like the plot of Seven Havens since the Post Republic City society feels like a metaphor for the end result of the industrial revolution. See Zaheer already kind of felt like a Ted K figure who abuses Harmonic Convergence to end all human interactivity with spirits because despite spirits hating humans and by extension also hating Zaheer, Zaheer out of moral obligation felt to split that connection even further as a thankless favor.If the world is a wasteland that rivals the earth kingdom desert in 7 Havens you will see more deeply spiritual people untrusting of either the Avatar or technology in general.
>>150939630I hate how Korra suddenly jump to 1920s steampunk New York. That aesthetic would be the first thing to go. Make it late Sengoku Jidai/Imjin war aesthetic with the other nations catching up to the Fire Nation (especially Earth Kingdom)
>>150939630Leave it as the mini series it was meant to be and leave well enough alone.
>>150940919That wasnt the problem. The problem was it was very "um actually" with its 1920's aesthetic. Rewatching airbender blew my mind how much I didnt even remember some of the shit the fire nation introduced into the world. I remember then going after Ozai but I have no memory of them using a fucking submarine in order to get there but the excuse was the submarine was a very early prototype and the only reason it worked was because the battery was Katara slowly water bending it to shore and she was piloting the entire thing off water bending alone.Meanwhile, Korra has Jet Ski's. The Jet Ski was made in the 70's and Korra just fucking has one presumably being controlled with water bending. Like if youre gonna make a WW1 - WW2 aesthetic you need to commit. Tanks and Airplanes? Fine. Fire Nation made these already. But giant robots? Hiroshi gets a pass with this because his robots were terrible they looked like Big Daddies and they were very expensive to mass produce because they were built with platinum to avoid having their metal bent. But Kuriva's robot goes far beyond the resource capabilities of this world is allowed to give its characters you dont hide what is essentially a gundam mech deep underground.
>>150941073iirc didn't the FN already make jetskis too?
Swamp bender Korra
>>150939630i wouldn't try to change much but the last season-reveal that the rumors about kuvira's camps were a complete myth-the series becomes more about kuvira bringing peace and reuniting all the nations and using benders to power infrastructure for all of humanity-the huge robot thing never happens-korra and asami are not lesbians, they're bi, and have a threesome with mako-bolin gets his shit together and stops being an oaf after Opal reveals she's pregnant-lengthy duels and debates between Lin Beifong and Zaheer about politics and philosophy-suyin beifong and other rich liberals in the setting get criticized mercilessly
>>150941073fair enough, but I still think the march of progress was just too fast.>>150941133This seems like a perfect answer to OPs question
>>150941238You want the Earth Kingdom to become Maoist?
>>150941133that was a fun thread.Also 100% the answer here. The main issue with korra is korra herself.
>>150941133>>150941278
>>150941292no, because maoist china and even present day china is a right wing nationalist project that has nothing to do with international proletarian revolution
>>150941392>because maoist china and even present day china is a right wing nationalist projectNice one about Mao.
>>150941338"I'm the Avatar, deal with it!" that's the core of the problem of the show.
>>150941133I can't see anything... Don't you have it in better quality?
>>150941790Click the 3 dots beside anonymous, and select open original file
>>150941412tbf, the line and context for the line in and of itself isn't the problemSay what you will about how it was executed, but the intention clearly was to set her up as this big ego that needed to be humbled and understand the true responsibilities with being the Avatar, so her having a line like that (especially then as a dumb kid who was just told she's basically the universes Jesus, doubly since I doubt the WL did much to stop it) is perfectly fine, if a tad corny (granted her immediately being able to earth and firebend doesn't make sense, but I'm willing to let that oddity go because, again, it helps set up her ego)The problems stem from how they attempted to knock her down a peg and humble her, basically only by her getting beat up a couple times throughout yet never actually learning shit
>>150941412yeah thats what i mean.That single moment ruined 90% of goodwill people would have had to the show and especially the character of korra.
>>150941925it also ruins the white lotus as apparently the wisest masters and sages never even thought to teach her what fucking money was.
>>150941133we need a commission or something for a writefag to actually make this a thing on ao3.
>>150941410yeah turns out you aren't communist if you help the CIA arm and fight with pol pot via proxy militias, just so you can invade socialist vietnam's northern border when they try to stabilize the region after a massive genocide you facilitated in cambodia
>>150942014Nigga shut the fuck up.They are national commie, not international as was the soviet style (at first til even they realized how fucking impossible that was)A commie is a commie, all need a bullet through the skull
>>150941133>>150941278>>150941368>>150941973Fire lady Dowager is in it's climax, you think Snakestaff would pick this idea up? i know he lurks here
>>150939630>Amon is a nonbender, utilizing Ty Lee style anti bending attacks, big bad across the entire series.>Korra is straight, no love triangle bullshit>Korra doesn't constantly job and get her ass kicked. She can lose major fights sometimes but in S1 she gets her ass kicked and jobs to random triad grunts, it's pathetic>no dark avatar bullshit
>>150940714His writing is full of irony and fourth wall acknowledgement of fandom opinions, yet he made me feel immerse in the universe
>>150942047oh i see, so you have no argument and can't make value judgements because you are historically illiterate. gotcha.
>>150942099Oh yeah>Bolin, the gangster kid raised on the streets and professional athlete, would be a rocky confident chad, not a whimpering simp comic relief butt monkey with no spine>Mako needs to be more badass, a shonen MC level personality so he's almost on par with Korra. Maybe make him a hot head like Bakugo who has to overcome his anger over the course of the series. The guy needed personality.Basically Mako and Bolin's personalities in the series make no sense considering they are gangster kids with years of experience doing petty crimes and scams for triad gangs who are also professional athletes when they meet Korra.
>>150942099>>150942175It literally is this simple.would also add>>150940444>Asami is evil. Like she needs to be EVIL and she needs to be evil ASAP.and >>150940561>this series needed a zuko or azula type foil and asami could have been that.Fuck it, i might just get around to doing a fic like this. avatar, like rwby is best enjoyed in the fannon compared to cannon. thats how bad the writing is.
Set the show 400 years in the futureRetcon it so that the people living in the air temples began to slowly use air bending and aang helped recreate the new airnomads.Aang and Toph got together. They had one son named bumi.Katara and Zuko got together after Mai died in the fire kingdom civil war. They had twin daughters. Sokka and Suki nearly created an entire village themselves and their youngest, the 13th child was born with white hair. But that doens't really matter because that's the happily ever after bitter sweet ending type stuff that happens 400 years ago.Korra is the daughter of the female earth bending police chief. Said mother dies under mysterious circumstances half way into the season. She's not the avatar. But we are lead to believe that because she can use water and earth bending. The avatar is a little water bender boy, her cousin who doesn't realize his power till later. He's actually shown to be unable to bend anything. So she's kind of his protector. Mako is her team mate and unbeknownst to her a prince of the fire kingdom,from a pruned branch *hint hint* and member of the white lotus. His "brother" Bumi is actually the goofy wise guy who is in fact a high level enforcer for the white lotus. He's the only one who knows Korra isn't the avatar but her little cousin and thnks it would be better to keep that secret and train him while keeping him safe by pretending he's a regular child. Asami is the sponser of Korra, Mako, Bolin, and an agressive air bender character. And childhood best friend of Korra. Calling them friends would be a stretch. More like frenemies ala Ramen fighter miki. Earth kingdom is attempting to take over again this cycle and Kuvira is at odds with the current Earth king of the largest and most influential kingdom.The fire kingdom is almost entirely isolationist and has been for generationsThe water kingdom is peaceful and seen as being the nobility with the water healers treated like great holy people
>>150942414>Aang and Toph got together. They had one son named bumi.>Katara and Zuko got together after Mai died in the fire kingdom civil war. They had twin daughters.Yeah no
>>150940193>Remove Vaatu and Rava entirelyMight as well get rid of pretty much anything S2 established. Maybe leave Varrick in there, and I guess you could also leave Bumi and Kya, but that's about it.Honestly, even the Wan episodes can go, even if they were neat, they really fucked with the canon (thanks to Raava and Vaatu)>>150940326Could work. The angle of people being inspired by the Avatar but really taking those ideals waaaaaay too far is something you could make a good story out of
>>150942414>Aang and Toph got together. They had one son named bumi.>Katara and Zuko got together after Mai died in the fire kingdom civil war. They had twin daughters.uh yeah>everything elsemeh, too fanficy and repetitive. as shit as some of korras plots were, there was potential with the right tweaks and omissions
>>150942498>Honestly, even the Wan episodes can go>evenyou mean especially? that episode in particular fucked cannon to bits and everything after it in s2 wouldn't happen without it.
>>150940512>>150940561While I agree that Asami could really use a bit more edge to her character, she doesn't have to be in cahoots with her dad. They should have focused a bit more on her and Hiroshi, that could also give her more character, without her being a retread of Zuko
to this day i'm forvever proud to have never watched s4. i only regret not dropping korra after s1 like my older brother did
>>150942540Well I do agree with you. But, for the most part, people do seem to like them.And standalone, I am inclined to agree with those people, they're cool.But inside the world of Avatar? They're awful retcons
>>150942544she doesn't have to be in cahoots with her dad for it to work, the idea is she is really amon's pawn.>that could also give her more character, without her being a retread of Zukoit's better to make subtle but different retreads of what worked vs whatever the fuck Asami is in cannon. her as a villain will either end up like zuko or azula, either of which is a better template than what we got. the biggest problem with korra's cast is that it's essentially the reverse of atla where despite all her faults korra is the only character with a personality/characterization vs everyone on team avatar were more developed/interesting characters than aang
>>150942434>>150942512Let's be honest. Bryke's parings were shit and went against what the fans wanted. Let's just get that out of the way.None of the plots were any good. Save for the IDEA of Amon being an unpowered response to the benders being over powered and ruining the world.And KiruvaEverything else was ass.Pure ass.
>>150942224Asami should be funding Amon, her family are billionaires funding radical nonbender movements like George Soros funds antifa and radical leftism.
>>150942722Zaheer and his gang were cool too. Zaheer as an evil mirror of Aang was cool, an example of how you can twist religious ideology to justify whatever you want it to.
>>150942722>Save for the IDEA of Amon being an unpowered response to the benders being over powered and ruining the world.>And Kiruvaand what I'm saying these two things could have been the whole show. i dont disagree that everything else was ass, but these two things are salvageable>>150942769also this, they just needed better writers. i could accept them as minor reoccuring vilains, especially if they had made zaheer aangs evil bastard
>>150942786Also Zaheer working with Korra sometimes when it suits him- and Korra having to team up with a guy who committed past atrocities- for the greater good
>>150942746you see how much more sensible making asami a villain would have been? it literally fixes things like this
>>150940326This is a good angle.The problem with Korra is that her character was initially conceived with Republic City in mind. Everything about her personality, her temperament, and her ideology screams "secular woman raised in an urban jungle" and not "Water Tribe Avatar trained in a compound and raised by a small community". Her canon background has no logical consequence on the story (outside of Book 3, but even then it's not really about Korra per se) or how she interacts with the world and other characters. Her background is at odds with how she actually acts. Even one of the TLOK comics realizes this as a younger Korra acts more like the archetypal "sheltered and naive prodigy" when she sneaks out for the first time.
>>150942769I got cut off before I finishedZaheer is the leader of a more agressive air bender tribe. Air monks/warrior people. They are beyond dangerous and do not suffer any attempts on their people.The air nomads ala ang are a small group who follow the old ways and seen frequently throughout the series.I'm Thinking Bolin is actually An air nomad that has learned to use fire bending and has his air nomad tatoo as well as his air warrior tattoos hidden under hair and arm armor.
>>150940919>>150941073The core issues with the worldbuilding in TLOK are: >that it doesn't follow any logical sense with how/why technology and industry evolved in ATLA (it contradicts the metaphysics)>it makes the too-common unimaginative mistake of assuming all industry follows a straight line (and is destined to fall into post-WW2 westerncentric urbanization and industrialization)>it doesn't understand how countries industrialize (it's not because of access to resources or innovation towards resource management per se, but primarily a literate population)Republic City should resemble urbanizing cities in Asia BEFORE the introduction of western influence (either by direct/indirect imperialism) and evoke the "everything is connected" theme of ATLA. Republic City should look like a miniature version of the world, split into four areas that begin to blend and overlap as you get closer to the city. The city is run on bending, with benders being responsible for transportation, defense, building, etc. It should have some technological advancement, but nothing to the level that we see in canon TLOK considering:>the Water Tribes would be fucking mostly illiterate and more concerned with rebuilding their populations and industrializing their own territory>the Earth Kingdom is more or less just China, and most of China's massive population was illiterate for much of its existence>the Fire Nation is still much smaller than the EK
>>150942498>The angle of people being inspired by the Avatar but really taking those ideals waaaaaay too far is something you could make a good story out ofThe whole problem of Korra for me is the show had interesting themes but never explored them, instead relying on cheap twists. The theme of non benders rights was forgotten: Amon is a blood bender, we get a riot, some cheap lines about Mako/Bolin being benders and having issues, and then in the end a non bender representative is on the council I guess so problem solved? Similar the theme of spirits ends with Dark Avatar. Even Kuvira's shit ends with a mech fight. Exploring the injustices in the world and how fighting them requires change but in turn causes problems is fertile ground. White Lotus could be almost enemies, or in the background, trying to steer the Avatar back to their status quo. People could treat the Avatar as almost a rebel. It would fit the personality we got for Korra. Instead Korra feels like a rebel who never rebels. >>150942840This was my feeling. Republic City is the main setting and yet it is shit as a setting. We never get a proper feel of it and I think it should have been a character in and of itself. And giving it that connection to Korra would majorly fit her character.
>>150939630Easy first order is extend the season 1 conflict. Don't have Amon be a fraud and Korra has to work over the seasons to get each bending power back and the equalist issue taken more serious over the course of the series. S2 can go down roughly the same, focused on korra getting her core bending skill of water back don't make the traditionalist tribal leader guy some retard psychopath in the end though.S3 roughly the same with Earth as focus, S4 with Fire and confrontation with Amon. Zaheer and earth military bitch fit in there in sort of the same way but around the Amon conflict, perhaps some crisscrossing of motives, nobody being a clear totally bad antagonist.
>>150943022Korra should have to learn Airbending from Zaheer. He should still be a terrorist but more of an anti-hero who does good if it fits his agenda
>>150940477To be specific, Raava and Vaatu are rooted more in the Christian background of Bryke and the other writers, specifically the pop culture depiction of God vs Satan informed by Zoroastrianism and how it tackled the idea of Dualism when it came to the divine (Good God vs Evil God). Vaatu and Raava really have more in common with the benevolent take on Order/Law vs Chaos conflict found in popular fantasy fiction (thank you Michael Moorcock) where Chaos is uniquely bad and must be held at bay with the power of Law/Order. This is, however, more of an American habit as British examples make Chaos and Order to be equally bad (or in the case of Japan with SMT).It is at odds with how ATLA pulls from East Asian culture, as they are all informed by Hindu/Buddhist/Shinto/Confuscian/Taoist beliefs which are rooted in non-dualism.
>>150939630Here's my pitch:Setup>Korra is abandoned as a child when she uses firebending for the first time, as her Southern parents have a deep seeded hatred for the Fire Nation and her parents assume infidelity rather then her being the Avatar.>Alone in the icy tundra, Korra is raised by Polarbear Dogs and learns Waterbending to catch fish and Firebending to cook and keep herself warm. She does not think anything of it and assumes anyone can bend two elements>She is later discovered as a teenager by an Elderly Katara who is searching for the new Avatar>Katara takes this Tarzan like girl and teaches her how to be a part of society but Korra is heavily resistant leading to some comedy and hopefully make her endearing and not insufferable>Finally she sends Korra to her son Tenzin to begin Airbending trainingBook 1>When Korra gets to Republic City, bending is highly involved as a source for their technology and benders are prioritized for work in the city (Earthbenders push trolleys and work construction, Firebenders burn coal in power plants or work as chefs, Waterbenders make waterpaintings in the street and manage the harbor, etc)>Many of the homeless are nonbenders>Equalist Revolutionaries rely less on technology and are more Ninja esque with their tactics (Acrobatics, Chi-blocking, Shuriken throwing, and Poison Gas)>The Police Force are Silver Samurai, they use swords as well as Metalbending>Amon isn't a bloodbender, and his origins of Bending oppression remains>He learns Energybending by communicating with the Spirits>The End of Book One ends in the opposite way, Amon is vindicated in the eyes of the nonbenders after being attacked by the Avatar and sparks revolutions across the globe, Korra has to escape Republic City as it has been taken by Amon and his followers
>>150939630I wouldn't use cheap triangle relationship drama.
>>150941105anon, if you actually looked into the behind the scenes stuff regarding the technology of the Fire Nation and Earth Kingdom, you'd know that the various inventions used in the show are actually quite simple and more or less powered by bending or built with bending in mind (which is how they're able to operate in spite of lacking the complex machinery that their real world counterparts have: such as the FN tanks)the reason why the technology in TLOK is such a big point of contention among critics and defenders is because it has very little thought put into it other than "trust me bro" and falls apart if you apply in-universe logic to it, especially because of how TLOK (and the ATLA/TLOK comics) tend to just plop real-world inventions without any understanding of the greater historical contextthat's why sokka using a forklift pissed so many people off: the forklift is only possible if you've got the battery, the hydraulics, the drivetrain, and the tires (and that wouldn't have been feasible considering the setting)
>>150943155Book Two>Explore Korra's relationship with her former parents>Introduce Old Man Sokka>Remove Wan>Remove Waterbender "Spiritbending" and just replace it with Energybending>Replace Rava and Vaatu with the real world Ying and Yang spirits>Keep the mysterious and alien vibe of the spirits from the original show>Korra learns Airbending requires spirituality and travels into the Spirit World>Learns about a Spiritual Equinox that will realign people's Chakras>Tarrlok still a bloodbender, he uses the political instability to try and throw a coup de'tat in the Northern Water Tribe>Unalaq plotting behind the scenes, helping the Red Lotus bust out >Airbending begins to reappear all around the world>Red Lotus are the main villains as they want to bring their own form of "peace" to the world
>>150941925the treatment of Korra's character almost feels misogynistic at times>gets introduced with a huge ego (this is meant to be both witty towards the audience, while also the introduction of how Korra's ego is "bad" somehow)>her ego and lack of common sense lands her into trouble (even though it paints the people who raised her as retards but you're not supposed to have that takeaway)>is then violated/broken/tortured by evil men, made helpless and then finger-wagged for not listening to the men in her life
>>150943266i'm not saying korra take makes sense. i just vaugely recall jetskis being a thing in atla, unless im mistaken?
>>150943546>https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Jet_skiyeah i was right
>>150943346Book Three>Korra has learned Water, Fire, and Air and now must learn Earthbending>Goes across the world to help quell the Revolutions>Kuvira rises to power and begins her conquest>Meets Granny Toph to learn Earthbending>Amon is still stripping people's bending away and plotting to unleash the Yang Avatar on the world to bring true equality>Unalaq meets with Amon in the Spirit World>Showdown with Team Avatar vs Kuvira's forcesBook Four>After mastering all four elements she needs to learn to control the Avatar State>Iroh from the Spirit World becomes her Guru, teaching her about the Chakras and Energybending>Meanwhile Unalaq and Amon work together to release the Yang Avatar Spirit>Unalaq believes that the Avatar Spirit will choose him, instead Amon becomes the Dark Avatar>Amon abandons Unalaq in the Spirit World>Korra finally confronts Amon about his philosophy and how their powers affect the world>Final Showdown encurs
>>150943396I can't quite describe it but when Korra tries to talk in a normal logical or diplomatic manner it feels like pure Tumblr speak. It has this weird tone.Korra is all over the place as a character. A hot head but humbled but never really learns her lesson or grows. It's a mess.
>>150943238Lesbian drama is okay though right?>>150943396She acts like female Sokka with a lot of girlboss ala buffy added in. And nowhere does it say "SHE SHULDA LISTENED TO DA MEN" anywhere. It says she's a hot headed retard and says she should listen to men and women.
>>150943346>the real world Ying and Yang spiritsthe koi fish?
>>150939630>No Republic City>No 20's aesthetic>Korra still has a big head, but she'll actually learn to be more humble>No love triangle bs, Korra instead seethes that Mako is with some nonbender instead of the Avatar>Amon reveal nonexistent, he remains a shadowy figure sowing discourse between benders and nonbenders>No Vaatu and Rava>Aang's kids are either airbenders or waterbenders>No harmonic convergence>If want to keep Zaheer as an airbender, he'll be Aang's son. Otherwise, he can be like that swordsman Sokka trained under. Instead of glorifying airbenders, it would be the idea of the Avatar itself>Subelements keep their drawbacks (metal needs physical contact to bend, lightning needs someone enlightened or psychopathic to wield, blood bending needs a full moon, etc.)This is all I could think of at the moment. All changes are either going back to preexisting canon (pre Korra) or just changing bad writing.
>>150943602Korra being diplomatic has a bizarre tone to it because it doesn't feel in-character for her considering her entire character is anything BUT a peacemaker. It's not her words she's speaking, but more like Superman when he's written ineffectually.And it also doesn't work because it's more dramatic than how anyone else speaks in the entire show, bordering on the writer speaking down to the audience.
>>150943610Tui and La are the Moon and Ocean spirits, I'd want them to explore the actual concepts of Yin and Yang = Duality, Masculine and Feminine, Order and Chaos, the cosmic principles or forces that are opposites but complementary, which interact, interconnect, support and perpetuate each otherIn the original show they touch on a lot of eastern philosophy like Chakra, Chi, Jings and Taoism but they kind of throw it all out the window around the time of Korra
>>150943396I feel like it's more they tried to give her the personality of a male shonen MC of the era (for gender equality) but because she constantly jobbed and was a hot girl it didn't work. I think the idea was to have her get beat up constantly to show how tough she is, but they overdid it so it verged in to ryona defeat and bondage fetish territory- again because she's a hot girl.
>>150943722i get what you mean, but atla already uses twi and la as a representation for yin and yang. koh the face stealer literally describes them that way.Personally i subscribe more to no dark avatar fuckery, but the avatar himself can be corrupted as he is both yin and yang/ the literal manifestation of balance. the description for energybending eludes to this. basically what ehasz had in mind before bryke bastardized it.
>>150943809>have her get beat up constantly to show how tough she isBy this, I mean how Goku and Naruto often get beat up and are on the verge of death before overcoming their enemies and winning. That's what they were going for with Korra, to show "girls can be tough too just like the boys", they just over did it.
>>150943266>it has very little thought put into it other than "trust me bro" and falls apart if you apply in-universe logic to it>a half a mile long, 100 foot high mechanized, constantly spinning, hydraulic drill controlled remotely from an extendable crane cockpit via hand-held levers, run by engineers in gasmasks, cooled by modern ventilation systems, supported by i-beams 10 feet across and 40 feet long, "it's like.. steam bro, steam and firebending, trust me!">ATLA's technology is totally simple and not at all handwaved complete bullshit
>>150943832The dark avatar bullshit reads more Vedic and Buddhist than anything else to me.
>>150943722What they should have done was go full Moorcock with it, but give it that Eastern bend to make it truly ATLA-y.>the Yin and Yang spirits are the primordial entities that make up the universe and represent all life in both the physical and spirit realms>the male Yang spirit embodies Authority and Tyranny, acting on the side of the Fire Nation and Air Nomads>the female Yin spirit embodies Chaos and Liberty, acting on the side of the Earth Kingdom and Water Tribes>the Fire Nation's war and genocide has disrupted the harmony between the Yin and Yang spirits>Yin is deeply weakened due to the violation of the environment and the lack of Water Benders>Yang has been driven mad due to the Fire Nation's violence and lacks empathy/compassion due to the genocide of the Air Nomads
>>150943887ah yes, I too remember the story of Evil Buddha and his epic clash with Buddhalet's be real, the dark avatar bullshit is just Bryke being Christian as fuck with an Anti-Christ vs Christ anglereject what TLOK laid out and embrace the original concept of the Avatar Spirit as the spirit of the planet, it's in-line with the East Asian cultural-religious influence
>>150943969Try reading esoteric Buddhism and the Tibetan shit, then you will understand.
>>150943809the problem is that Bryke think a girl fighter needs to be LE HUMBLED for the crime of being...impulsive even though Korra doesn't do anything bad in the first place to justify being violatedit would be one thing if Korra wasn't rendered so helpless, that's what makes it ryona - the lack of any fight, Korra just immediately folds and goes AIEEEEE>>150944000Trips. Can you reccommend me some esoteric stuff then? I like learning about Buddhism.
>>150939630Have it be the reverse intensity of Aang's story where instead of needing to train to defeat a gigantic threat at an inexperienced age with lots of pressure, have her defeat a few minor threats and then learn to cope with a world already at balance, already at peace. What does an Avatar do when there's already balance?
>>150944000NTA but could you elaborate more, because having also read up on these subjects, what you're implying smells like bullshit. vedic/hinduism has many gods that are anything but generic good or generic bad.
>>150942722>Bryke's parings were shit and went against what the fans wanted.Taang I'll give you as a definite "maybe they could've better", but Zutara is a legitimately ass ship that could only work (and that's even if you take out Bryke and co. being shit when it comes to romance out of the equation) if both characters are mega OOCIt's actually kinda funny that of all the non canon ships that could've been better than the main ones, the one that most people seem to latch on to is the one that realistically (from an in universe perspective) could never be canon (or if it was, it'd be very brief and very toxic). Yes, even their respective incest relationships are more plausible (and this is coming from someone who's kinda grown sick of all the firecest posting) or either of them being secretly gay
>>150944059>>150944027Mara
>>150943924>MoorcockHaven't heard of this guy before I'll check him outI like this idea but I would switch Air to Yin and Earth to Yang, meaning the Yin Spirit would be close to extinct within benders causing some sort of disturbance>>150944000 Checked
>>150944076>Marayou said vedic and bhuddist. mara is very clearly from one and not the other, and even then it's a literal demon and not the evil equivalent of buddha
>>150944075Bryke wanted this pairing.The fans wanted katarra and zuko. They could have easily written stories pushing them together. It would have been easy as fuck to write.
>>150944034there's only two options for a direct thematic-emotional opposite to ATLA's wartime setting>fluffy domestic SOL: with all the major problems solved, Korra must find a way to live a normal life while unlearning her childhood programming of being raised to be a soldier (like if Doc Savage explored the world except all the adventure was already done so now he just hangs out with his friends)>rip off MGS/FMA/Naruto>the world has been so traumatized by the Fire Nation's war and genocide of the Air Nomads that it lead to the factions stockpiling weapons and soldiers with dangerous inventions pointed at each other>the war has gone from "hot" to "cold" with the EK and WTs now dominating culture and technology, and proxy wars are now the norm with the contested colonies being the center of conflict and death as the Water Tribe-Earth Kingdom collaboration beefs with the Fire Nation (caught in a civil war) >Korra now acts as a dog of the government, doing missions to "keep the peace" but starts to grow disillusioned as she learns more about previous Avatars and their role in creating harmony
Would have gone full same sex relationship season 1, rip that bandaid off, commit. Mako and Bolin would be there to show that girls can have male friends and not have to date them.Increased Korra's IQ by 8 points or so.Ideally first 2 seasons are less serious, what does the Avatar do during peacetime, then introduce a few simultaneous problems and power grabs by different factions all at once by season 3. First few seasons are for worldbuilding and character development, maybe a bending fighting tournament, later seasons feel more like FFXII, Ogrebattle, Or Escaflowne, in smaller factions being attacked and going to war against larger aggressors with some parties being neutral, The Avatar now has to navigate some politics as well as gets to see what war looks like.
>>150941133Ah, got there before me. What a great thread that was. If it weren’t so late I’d draw some Swamporra.
>>150944131Buddhism is a vedic religion, dumbdumb
>>150944075>if both characters are mega OOCit wasn't ooc for katara to try to help zuko in the chase when iroh got hit or when they were sharing a cell in crossroads at the drop of a hat? people can not like zutard shipping but to pretend it requires a huge shift in the characters is nonsense.
>>150944144>Bryke wanted this pairing.>The fans wanted katarra and zuko.Goes to show that even Bryke are actually capable of making good decisions from time to time, and that the fans aren't always right, especially in areas where bias rules, like character relationships
>>150944144>The fans wantedlollmao even
>>150944131Also Ravana and Vishnu. The korra version is a mishmash of different Indian religious concepts, there is nothing Christian about it
>>150944192>no response to the point>Buddhism is a vedic religionOh so you're a retard posing as an intellectual. got it. though in hindsight that was obvious the moment you tried to say the dark avatar fuckery fits with eastern themes
>>150944152Any of the scenarios you listed would be far more interesting than what we got
>>150944164Anon, they can't even show girls having the same sex being friends.Why push lesbianism but say men can be around and be just friends and nothing else.Besides, lesbians don't sell. Not even to lesbians. No one is going to tune into the sapphic adventure of dykes mcmanly. >>150944215Anon, if they were capable of making a single good decision Korra would have been at least salvagable. Everyone here is talking about full rewrites and agrees that every decision they made is shit. Give the fans what they want. Not listen to a handful of contrarian retards.
>>150944164The world should be a mix of traditionalism with the modern world creeping in, tech replacing bending. Would have given Korra some sort of Trauma early on, witness some death at a young age during an Avatar Assassination attempt at the Southern Water Tribe compound she was being kept at.This is to explain her impulsiveness and fake confidence, she puts on a show to try and live up to the Avatar expectations but deep down she is unsure and insecure. Asami is on the tech side but gives Korra confidence.
>>150942414>Aang and Toph got together. They had one son named bumi.Sorry but Aang gets together with Mai, and Toph reproduces asexually or with Sokka
>>150944257Her relationship should be 1% of the show. Make it a fact early on then don't touch up on it to much, also include a beach episode.
>>150944075Kataang sucks because Katara is too emotionally mature for Aang, and Aang isn't emotionally mature enough for her, and neither has enough in common. Lack of compatible backgrounds and temperaments, and Aang is not Katara's type in the slightest. Zutara is...weird because it only works in the context of Zuko becoming an ally to the Gaang early on and speedrunning his character development faster. If we're following the story as-is, it only really works after things have wrapped up (which is why the comics try and pair up Suki and Zuko - comics Suki basically has Katara's ego-personality from the show, while comics Katara might as well be a different person entirely).Kataang can only work if you fundamentally rewrite the show to be Aang's story rather than split between Zuko, Katara, and Sokka as the main POVs with emotional-thematic throughlines. If you really think about it, you could replace Aang with a magic object or funny animal and not much changes.
>>150944286Romantic and platonic relationships are built on shared experiences and growth, not on plot-mandated drama.
>>150944285You know, it is possible for female animals to asexually reproduce, straight up immaculate conception shit where they pop up a clone baby. Bees and ants do it, and certain animals in captivity have done it.Earthbenders are weird. I can totally see Toph making a tiny clone-golem version of herself that she shits out one day.
>>150944238You're an autistic redditor addicted to e-arguments to make yourself feel intelligent because you're deeply insecure and have a huge ego- a bit like Korra in a way. Good luck out there, friend.
>>150944234>Ravanaanother literal demon, not an evil avatar equivalent>Vishnuone of the trimurti, with brahma and shiva, all of which are necessary forces in the world and not generic good vs evil equivalentsMind you i'm not agreeing with the other anon that dark avatar fuckery is le christian, but certainly isn't any what your talking about either.
>>150944207>it wasn't ooc for katara to try to help zuko in the chase when iroh got hit or when they were sharing a cell in crossroads at the drop of a hatTrue, but having positive interactions despite being enemies to that point and developing romantic feelings for someone who, till that point, has been a hated enemy are entirely different thingsKatara's compassionate, so it's not ooc for her to feel compassion towards him in those instancesIt's when things go to the romantic angle that it starts going ooc for both. The baggage between them alone pretty much makes any possible romance between the two nonexistent, let alone the fact that neither have actually shown any attraction towards the other at any point in the show. That's why I say that the only real way to make them actually be romantic is to change their characters a lot, because so much of the interaction between them in the show is antagonistic, and it's like five episodes before the end when things start to change (and this is more me, but even after Southern Raiders, I don't really see them as friends, more so that Katara's dropped any active antagonism/negativity she had towards Zuko, and I don't seem them actually becoming honest to god friends until years after the series)
>>150944293Aang is emotionally immature but gains maturity as the season goes on because he accepts his responsibility. In some ways he is the Peter Alan, the boy who never grew up, only he differs because he does. Katara is too mature because she's overcompensating due to the situation in her village, but Aang shows her how to open up and enjoy herself at times. She's sort of like the group making her into a Wendy, the den mother. And yet Katara still gets taken on this adventure and there is plenty of moments to show they have compatibility.
>>150939630Have her end up with Ikki instead of Asami
>>150944243my dream fanfic is Korra pretty much being Solid Snake/Raiden with Kuvira as Big Boss, Amon as Skull Face, and Zaheer as President Armstrong>Korra, you need to go into the jungle and capture ALL of the monkey-lemurs
>>150944315>muh leddit>says the literal retard who knows fuck all of what he's talking about like the shitters from thereWay to project. fuck off
>>150942414>opens with shipfaggingKys
I would change the villains.I feel like every single one of them was right, and they're not supposed to... they're villains.
>>150944382You aren't impressing anyone but yourself little man.
>>150944257>Everyone here is talking about full rewritesNot reallyPlenty of posts here are about taking the ideas present in the original Korra, just doing them betterPlenty of stuff in Korra is salvageable, Bryke just needed a better team to help expand the good ideas for the show they had while saying no/making changes to the bad ones
>KorraSHE'S GAYSHE'S RETARDEDSHE DESTROYED THE AVATAR CYCLE
>>150944313Aight coolWait I got it Mai and Sokka get together
>>150944502Nah>>150944285 had it right. Gloomy girl and upbeat boy is the better dynamic
>>150944364The blue spirit episode. Show him saving her a few timesShow her healing him a few times and wonder where he isLove blooms between a man and woman who hate each other or just pure lust. It's happened I know.It's not hard to just...DO THATFor gods sake, half of the lesbo yuri shit on /co/ is between women who hate each other.But a hetero pairing? Oh well shit that just doesn't happen.I mean, aang and katara has even LESS reason to get together and their relationship just happens in a single ep and doesn't make any damned narrative sense. >>150944451Sorry.Not full95% rewrites. I mean, the OP asked how would you fix korra, not how would you have handled an ATLA sequel.The OP is now getting FULL REWRITES within the boundaries of what was presented in the dumpsterfire show.
>>150944364>having positive interactions despite being enemies to that point and developing romantic feelings for someone who, till that point, has been a hated enemy are entirely different thingsNo they aren't, not in this case where katara previously had no qualms leaving zuko to freeze in the north pole. if it were just one time she extends a hand, i would agree, but the fact that she did so twice knowing he was an enemy, and she opens up to him so quickly means that the framework to start a relationship isn't non existent or requires a herculean readjustment in their characterization. that doesn't mean it wouldn't require a shit load more time to build up that the show may not have had, but the foundation was there. enemies falling in love is basic literature tropes 101, you only really need establish the idea that they have mutual ground and the crossroads scene did more than enough to lay that foundation if things headed in that direction.
>>150944414people claim it's because the show falls into MCU-adjacent pro-neoliberalism urban fantasy, but this isn't really true because even Japanese stuff before the 2000s was guilty of this (and still is)the reason why the villains come across as right is because Bryke are guilty of the same thing that the MCU creatives and SJ mangaka are, and it's that at heart they want to make a story with a built-in status quo for telling adventure fantasy but are too insecure, not well-read enough, and too stupid for their own good, so they decide to be edgy/faux-mature by accidentally implying that the status quo is inherently evil (which means any antagonist that wants to destroy it is basically justified) in an attempt to be deep/complex when in reality, they don't know how (or want) to just tell a simple story of Good vs Evil>think of how KOTOR II flirts with the idea of "what if the Force is LE BAD" but ultimately goes "no, Kreia is a fucking idiot and the status quo is not inherent evil, she's just a midwit" if you undermine/over-criticize/deconstruct the genre you're writing for, it's something you can only really do once in a self-contained separate story altogether as its own thing (Watchmen/Worm for capeshit, ASOIAF for adventure fantasy), and it's not something you should ever do as a sequel to the original or as an adaptation because you poison what makes it beautiful and poignant in the first place it's why the MCU should not be interpreted as the definitive Marvel continuity, why Pluto is not OG Astro Boy, why Shin Kamen Rider is not mainline Kamen Rider, etc
>Be Asami Sato>You're the daughter of the man who became a multi billionaire overnight because he was the Henry Ford of his universe>In order to get some investment start up capital, Hiroshi cuts a desperate deal with the equalists but as he is doing this, your mom is violently murdered in public by the Ag Ni Kai triad>You literally watched a fire bender light your own mother on fire as you watched her skin and bones become dust in the wind>This has ZERO psychological consequences of any kind since you dont show any signs of hiding a deep emotional and psychological trauma of having witnessing this>You dont even humor your dad who insists that poor people with bending powers like the Ag Ni Kai are likely to use their powers for petty villainy instead of the greater good of humanity>Only proving that non benders are the literal caste system of this world even when some benders are also poor and down on their luckYet this show insists there is nothing to tell on the idea that Asami should be evil. This bitch should have been Azula from the beginning.
>>150944518the real impressive ship would be Aang x Azula but that only works in the context of the hypothetical "ATLA but it's firmly Aang's story"
>>150944538Katara and Zuko make so much sense and had the most chemistry. Aang should have got with Toph or the fortune teller girl
>>150944616>>150944414making the TLOK villains totally wrong leaves you with two choices>give them heroic counterparts who have the same goals, but different motives and means (and make them successful in their heroism)>make the status quo concretely Good instead of inherently Evil or fated for failure
Wish they had added more of Zhu Li and Varrick. Also more roaring 20s decadence.
>>150944776>the sokka and suki of lokreally goes to show that the creators are better when they leaving shipping completely in the background when they keep making the least focused pairings the best ones by accident
>>150939630Do I still have the whole "I only thought I'd have one season" problem? Actually fuck it. Either way my answer is>Remove pro bending>Remove romance>Keep the style choreography consistent with the previous series instead of turning everything into generic MMA>Korra doesn't unlock the avatar state or get her bending back in the end. She makes contact with Aang and resolves to go on a quest with just airbending to get the rest back the hard way, ending on a sequel hook/adventure continues kind of thing.
>>150940326Not bad, anon. Not bad at all.
>>150944364keep in mind that Katara and Zuko do have a lot in common in terms of background and temperament but as a big zutara guy, I'll freely admit that it 100% happening DURING canon is ridiculous - believable afterwards, and maybe teased throughout the original story, but it's not something that would happen because ATLA is not really a romance story from go or all that good at telling romanceZuko and Katara are very compatible (really, it's the Zuko/Suki pairing that has more grounds for being insane because Suki has a real reason to hate Zuko because she's only seen him at his worst), but ATLA should have not concerned itself with Zutara or Kataang as the happy emotional resolution. It was superior at friendship-building and showing the found family between the Gaang, and that is what it should have ended on, not a kiss between a boy and girl.
>>150944776It felt like Varrick was 100% originally intended to be a foil specifically for Asami but he got way too popular and when a character becomes popular the writers get the wrong idea. They basically wanted their version of Tony Stark in this world and that is what they turned Varrick into. I really wanted that original rumor of him pretending to be ego centric and stupid to "appeal to the lesser consumer" to be true because it would mirror Asami's character arc perfectly. Asami is a mostly normal person left with the burden how no one will ever take her seriously because her last name is forever the name of a man who advocated for total bender genocide since the Equalists went from a political alternative to a cult literally overnight. Compare that to Varrick who using his verbiage to sell people on ideas but not really believing in anything he actually talks about since his purpose is to get you to believe him not for himself to believe in his own lie. This should have been the spark to Asami turning evil. It would have shown her that the reason why the equalist movement happened at all is because people wanna be apart of something even if someone else's life has to be the sacrifice to be that. For Asami's sake, if she wants to be her own person she needs to disregard Korra. But they never went with this route, instead Varrick went 200% full reddit.
>>150944852>It was superior at friendship-building and showing the found family between the Gaang, and that is what it should have ended on, not a kiss between a boy and girl.I agree. to me, the best relationships in the show was the inevitable friendship between zuko and aang and the overall comradey of the gang. they could have ended on an open note, but alas the creators and the writers were too focused on shipping instead of sticking the landing
>>150944701Well yeahFire vs waterLead feminine heroine with water powers, wounded badboy with a heart of gold and fire powersBoth lost mothersProblems with fathersSiblings are idiots they have to tard wrangleBoth are embroiled in war and this can lead to a lot of closecalls and adrenaline ANDKatara is a powerful healer, and Zuko has a big scar on his face. Remember the whole aang goes crazy and scars katarras hands with fire? Yeah. It's thereHell Bryke tried to do it in Korra but failed at it. Meaning that they problem isn't that it was what they wanted, it's that they can't fucking sell it.
>>150944776I will admit that although I think the roaring 20s vibe was inappropriate for a sequel to ATLA, TLOK's aesthetics are still kinda cool. If anything, Bryke should have gone full art deco or made it like some spooky gothic Asian urban jungle. Like Gotham crossed with Tokyo and Beijing. Take some influence from The Big O and Kung Fu Panda, and The Raid.
Anyone has the Amon ballin’ screencap?>>150944185Do it!
>>150942840>The problem with Korra is that her character was initially conceived with Republic City in mind.The problem is that Korra was conceived as 'The opposite of whatever Aang was'. So Aang was a well traveled nomad that had friends in every country? Korra has to be home schooled and on lockdown in a compound. Aang is spiritual? Korra has to be secular.Even if it makes no sense or doesn't fit with the other stuff you want to do. Korra is an object lesson in how you need more than just contrarianism.
>>150944852>really, it's the Zuko/Suki pairing that has more grounds for being insane because Suki has a real reason to hate Zuko because she's only seen him at his worstTBF, Katara has seen him doing far worse throughout the series. Suki only saw him once (during Warriors of Kyoshi) before he joined the Gaang, and what he did to her compared to what he did to Katara was lesser. I do think they're equally implausible, but Zutara has the slght edge if only because of the amount of baggage they have compared to Suki and Zuko, even with post southern raiders being taken into account>It was superior at friendship-building and showing the found family between the GaangThat I agree with wholeheartedly. While I think their bit as the Jasmine Dragon is great, and a Kataang kiss during the epilogue was definitely necessary (in spite of the problems that relationship has), but the last shot of the series definitely needed to be of the gaang togetherIf I were writing it, I'd either have the Kaatang resolution be first before they go to the others in the Jasmine Dragon, or extend the scene after the kiss to the others joining them outside to gaze out at the sunset
>>150944701Why do shippers only ever define chemistry as the volatile kind? There's more to romance than opposites attract.
>>150945014It's funny because Zuko, Sokka, and Toph are all foils for Aang already. I can kinda see what Bryke were trying to do. Each Joestar in JJBA is a foil for the previous (and has more in common with a past or future antagonist), just like how each new Doctor in Doctor Who foils the previous.Korra's problem is that her overall personality only makes sense in the context of Republic City because her foiling Aang with how she canonically acts isn't compatible with her cultural background. Before anything, she should be a Water Tribe Avatar that contrasts Aang, not a Toph-Zuko composite in WT clothes.
>>150940714This game would be 10/10 if the author didn't have a garbage sense of humor and need to force cringe dialogue everytime.
>>150945047>There's more to romance than opposites attract.i dont disagree with your point, but the people who usually say this pivot to opposite extreme of "romance is strictly quantitative and it doesn't matter how intense the bond is". which is why get a lot of mediocre pairings that exist just because of sunk cost fallacy, especially ones like kataang that were onesided for most of it.
>>150939630make her Barefoot the whole show.
>>150945047A lot of shippers are young women who don't have much experience with romance outside of exposure to dysfunctional ones or fictional ones defined by lots of violence/stress/unnerving tension between the couple. They don't really get that romance isn't born out of antagonism, but friendship/overlapping interests, emotional vulnerability, intimacy and proximity (not always sexual, mind you), a sense of longing/desire/fixation (passion), and loyalty/commitment.
>>150944616>MCU-adjacent pro-neoliberalism urban fantasyA lot of Korra's problems feel Star Wars esque to me. Avatar Wan is Avatars version of midichlorians, demystification and explanation of stuff, ala the prequels. Subverting expectations style twists undercutting things, years before TLJ did it, feels like what a lot of the plots do. None of the themes are explored, they are cheap twists, it's cheap like the sequels.The problem for me is, Avatar The Last Airbender fits that thing of being a family show that occasionally had dark moments discussing things like Airbender genocide. A show straddling mature themes whilst also being for children works, in the same way that the Original Trilogy works with Star Wars. Basics of a Hero's Journey, world building, heroes.Korra however attempted to do something different and be the mature show, but in trying to be mature it actually aimed more towards a social media savvy audience, particularly Tumblr. The creators themselves talked to fans on Tumblr. Tumblr fans prioritised shipping/Stan culture as well as eating up the twists. And this somehow made the more mature show feel less mature in it's themes. Because it was catered towards a kind of social media adolescense, trying to please and play with their expectations.>they want to make a story with a built-in status quo for telling adventure fantasy but are too insecure, not well-read enough, and too stupid for their own goodThe status quo exists because at the end of the day, people reset the story. You still need a fight.. so the villain goes too far even if they had a point. But the truth is, Amon wasn't like that. Amon was just a cheap twist for the sake of a twist and the whole theme of non benders was practically abandoned. Then we're told the council got some non benders, everything is fixed. Simple story telling ends up feeling more sincere and mature than the cheap stuff we got.
>>150945183>A lot of shippers are young women who don't have much experience with romanceDo you guys think young women are coming here, or that enemies to lovers dynamics started in the mid 2000's?
>>150945213I know, it's like they just started thinking about relationships and romance recently and are only reading recent popular and well known media.
>>150945193It's funny that you bring up Amon, because Bryke's blog implies that the only reason that the villains have the "sudden twist + they go too far" angle is because Bryke didn't want the story to be predictable or something that people could solve ahead of time (comparing "predictable writing" to being like a rollercoaster). Amon gets this especially bad because him being a Waterbender and having a surprise familial connection comes out of left field, and his faked scars are another point of contention because there's no way makeup would change the shape of his face like that. Another sign that points in the direction of Amon's story choices being a late change in production is how he and his brother...inherit their father's POST-surgery facial features. It leaves one with the impression that Amon wasn't meant to be the original final antagonist of Book One, and certainly not a secret Waterbender and brother of Tarlaq. The comparisons to the Prequels are interesting because the Midichlorians weren't really a retcon so much as they were George poorly communicating the worldbuilding and not doing a better job of clarifying things. A lot of behind the scenes stuff and interviews makes his intentions on the PT quite clear (and not contradicting the OT whatsoever), it's just that George is ass at dialogue, he always has been. But yeah, TLOK has the PT problems and the ST problems in that it was in need of stronger editing from the start, on top of actively undermining what came before it.
>>150944473Triple based.
>>150945047Because I've hatefucked a lot of girls i couldn't stand and was annoyed by but had good sex with. It describes. Most of my relationships before meeting my wife.
How would you guys fix it without keeping the psuedo 1920s setting? Because I hated that more than anything.
>>150940430>Or do you say it to keep the mystery of how the avatar originated?Nta but yeah, pretty much
>>150939630No pro bending, have her struggle with Fire instead of Air as it has been established Avatars struggle with learning their opposites, make Republic City Aang's great mistake that Korra needs to fix to finally restore balance
>>1509454071880s meiji era setting instead
>>150945418Multicultural city=bad goes against everything Bryke believe ideologically.
>>150940430>the mystery of how the avatar originated?It shouldn't be a mystery, the Avatar simply is
What if instead of stupid season 2 stuff, Zaheer got his airbending directly from Aang energybending it into him? Then he'd kind of be like another successor alongside Korra and "the mess the previous avatar left" for her to resolve. Would that be to Star Wars?
>>150945316>sudden twist + they go too far" That's why I compared it to The Last Jedi. The big criticism of The Last Jedi was subverting expectations.>Well having a heroic Luke is too predictable so Luke is now a hermit.Etc etc. TLJ obviously came out far after Korra, but Korra's subverting expectations feel like a pre runner to this. GRRM the creator of Game of Thrones once talked about this. Everyone guessed the twist of who Jon Snow was, years before the show confirmed it. GRRM mentioned how he knew writers interacting with online audiences changing their work because they wanted to surprise people. He compared it to a whodunnit leaving clues only to at the last minute make it something random. Completely robbing the plot of substance and satisfaction. The online audience will always, ALWAYS guess where something is going out of sheer number of people making guesses. Worrying about that is stupid.>The comparisons to the Prequels are interesting because the Midichlorians weren't really a retcon so much as they were George poorly communicating the worldbuilding and not doing a better job of clarifying things.Retcon can mean to revise something, so semantically, yes they are a retcon, they recontextualise things in a way. Whilst the OT do mention the force being strong in his family, behind the scenes also has Lucas and co mention that anyone could technically be a Jedi, like a martial arts master it would simply require a high degree of training and discipline that most people simply couldn't do. It isn't that the prequels contradict things, it's more that the recontextualise things in a way that damages stuff or is unnecessary, like the prophecy.Similarly ATLA implies people bent energy within themselves then learnt from the moon/creatures to bend elements. And the Wan story doesn't fully contradict this, in that he learns from stuff, but it does feel skewed.
Throw all the things that are introduced in The Legend of Korra out. Just, throw it all in the memory hole. Setting, characters, everything.The new version of this show would start with the Avatar being found in the Earth Nation. It's been over 100 years, so all the main characters from ATLA are dead. This Avatar is a stocky, snarky livestock herder girl named Roda.Doesn't like people who talk too much. Bit of a loner.An army of various spirits start showing up right outside the village, at night. They just stand there, facing away from the town out into the darkness. At sunrise they disappear. At night, they reappear. No matter what the townsfolk do, they don't react.One night, Roda dreams of the starry night sky cracking open, a deep golden haze drifting out, taking the shape of a stern face. She wakes up in a cold sweat. Outside, the spirit army have readied their weapons. In the distance, strange animals approach the town, with a scarecrow leading them.Before Roda can choose wether to hide or go back to sleep, her Father and Mother burst in, dressed and packed for travel. They take Roda and sneak away from the village, towards the nearest port.Roda would eventually meet and befriend a nomadic stage performer from the fire nation, a non-bender who thinks they're psychic, and a Water-bending Firefighter who just got fired for fighting a friar. Her parents probably won't be able to follow her on this adventure for long.id call it Avatar: Foreign Element
>>150945407Make Republic City more like a medieval solarpunk Asian urban jungle that resembles industrializing cities in Asia before the influence or reach of European influence and infrastructure. The city is built to revolve around bending which creates a big divide between the benders and nonbenders. It isn't a parallel for racism/bigotry in the vein of X-Men, but akin to class struggles.Think of how transport and construction operated by Earthbenders would put normies at a total disadvantage for self-defense or work, or how hydro dams and coal plants would be more apt to pick Waterbenders and Firebenders over nonbenders. That's not even getting into how the Fire Nation and Earth Kingdom made so much money off the war, so all of the wealthy descendants would outdo and overpower the peasants living in Republic City, especially if they're benders.
>>150939630Move Amon to the end of the series and start with Spirits. Korra has trouble connecting to her spiritual side and learning airbending, Tenzin comes to the South Pole alongside a delegation from Republic City (including Asami, who is there to represent her father's company in talks with Varrick, and Mako and Bolin, who are there as part of a probending exhibition match). Tenzin sympathizes with Korra and persuades the WL and her parents to let her get out of the compound for the festival. She meets Asami and the two become fast friends after Asami invites her to the probending match. Afterwards the spirits attack the festival and things more or less proceed from there with a few changes to account for the fact that certain things haven't happened yet. Korra learning about Wan and the history of the Avatar (have her discover it through scrolls or a spiritual guide or something instead of connecting to her past lives) can start a narrative throughline of wanting to connect to her past lives that continues through the series, and the conclusion of the arc with Vaatu and the civil war with the Northern tribes can be what finally gets her out of the South Pole, arguing that she has a responsibility to deal with the aftermath of the Convergence and the war.Seasons 3 and 4 can stay mostly intact - facing the Red Lotus, Korra getting crippled, the war with the Earth Empire, etc., with a few character arcs tweaked here and there (ex. Hiroshi and Tarrlok appear as recurring allies of Team Korra, providing them with equipment, information, and support).
>>150945641Last season brings everything together.We've now had three seasons back-to-back with powerful benders wrecking havoc on the world (Unalaq, Zaheer, and Kuvira) and the stage is set for the Equalist movement in Republic City. Korra can be torn, seeing that the movement makes valid points even if she disapproves of their methods. But then Amon comes on the scene and everything Korra's had in the back of her mind for three seasons about how much of her identity is wrapped up in being the Avatar and bending comes to the forefront, she's met an enemy who can't just beat her, but can potentially take away everything that she is and has worked to be.We've got Tarrlok being revealed as a bloodbender, which hits harder because we've gotten to know him as a good guy for a few seasons (you can pepper hints about his past and his eventual connection to Amon throughout the rest of the show). We've also got Hiroshi being revealed as a traitor, which hits harder because we've gotten to know him as a good guy for a few seasons (you can pepper hints about his growing distrust of benders throughout the rest of the show). We've got Asami choosing her friends over her father, which hits harder because we've gotten to know her as a good person for a few seasons and it feels more tragic when she has to make that choice.Korra faces Amon, loses her bending, and despite unlocking airbending after four seasons is still devastated. Her moment of suicidal despair on the cliff and finally connecting to Aang and her other past lives and getting her bending back is now an incredibly cathartic moment that concludes a four season arc instead of a season one asspull.
>>150944641MaybeBut Maiaang is cuter
>>150939630Really wish korra had removed everyone's bending powers and said "If you want those powers, then earn them" No more born with bending pwoers.Everyone has to learn them.
>>150939630>Amon is telling the truth and angry spirits taught him how to energy bend>No love triangle bullshit>Pro-bending reduced to a couple episodes so Korra can earn Bolin and Mako's trust to make them help her track down and fight back against the Equalists.>No fucking mechs.>Asami is the cool girl who can drive and has the social connections and information network to help Korra and crew>Erase all of that shit about the gangster with bloodbending powers and his two sons. Remove any story elements that imply that bending is like a fucking X-Gene and some people get born with Omega Level Bending Powers for no reason>Toss out all of Wan's story and all that shit about the Good and Evil carpets>No Spirit Kaiju fights>Give the Red Lotus a real motivation, instead of ripping off Armstrong's "natural order" anarchy bullshit.>NO FUCKING GIANT ROBOTS>The Spirit world is not a land of whimsical, capricious creatures. Get it right.
>>150939630Make it about the Avatar playing a basketball game to determine the fate of Republic City.
>>150945954Basquash was already made.And yes, it's superior to Avatar in every single way.
>>150939630I get that what you're essentially asking for here is fanfiction, so I'll indulge.I think one thing the series desperately needed was an overarching plot, so point #1 would be making Amon a muli-season antagonist, which others have already suggested.But something else I think the show needed more of was backstory regarding the sort of in-between Team Avatar that was Tenzin's friend group as adolescents (I.E. the kids of all the ATLA characters). For my money, have Tenzin and his friends/siblings form the Red Lotus when Aang is old and frail as a sort of vigilante group to pick up the slack of a sickly Avatar, creating the Amon identity to protect themselves from the law. Amon (the real Amon) is a non-bender friend of theirs in the Red Lotus who specializes in long term strategic thinking, and idolizes Aang for the change he brought to the world. One thing I love in these types of stories is the slow breakdown of a group of friends as they grow apart due to diverging values. Amon would be increasingly radical in his plans for the Red Lotus, eventually breaking the team up and killing the elderly Aang.Amon's goal would be to create an Avatar that would actually "finish what Aang started" by taking control of the world and using their power proactively to abolish the four nations and prevent war. This is why he killed Aang, so he could direct his followers to kidnap the new Avatar to raise her to be his imagined messianic figure (which fails, as in the original series).This makes the conflict between Korra and Amon rather complex, in that he doesn't want to kill her or capture her, but to tempt her to give in to her worst impulses and become what he wants her to be.Third season twist would be that Tenzin actually is still a believer (because of the trauma of the Air Nomad genocide) and still follows Amon's orders under the assumed identity of Zaheer.I just think it would have been better had Korra leaned into the political aspects of the world.
>>150946009Not bad. That's a good angle to work with, trying to bridge Korra's plot with Tenzin and his siblings' baggage. It's something that the show never really unified.
>>150946152always happy to insert my beloved "older original incarnation of the main character group that serve as foils for them because they let their personal failings tear them apart" trope
>>150946292it's the best, like the Patriots being Big Boss' ex-friends from MGS3
>>150946009Amon as a multi-season antagonist makes much more sense. Especially because Unaloq fucking sucks and the Red Lotus poofing onto the scene just doesn't work. Amon, but without the bloodbending could work a lot better.
>>150946384>During the original Red Lotus years, Suyin is dating Soon-To-Be-Amon>Gettin gmore and more alienated by his strange ideas>The night everything goes tits up she breaks up with him and, as revenge becomes his first victim getting her bending takenIn the actual show Suyin doesn't actually do all that much bending, but imagine if Bolin (who constantly finds himself with women who belittle and don't value him) could actually get some good advice from Suyin about not letting your past relationships define you and finding someone that actually helps you self actualize. Her losing bending but finding a husband she builds an entire city with would be such an interesting trajectory and a good example I think
>>150944094Moorcock wrote Elric of Melnibone which had some inspiration on Game of Thrones (Targaryens) and a huge inspiration on Warhammer (Chaos)
I'd keep S1 almost exactly the same.The one change I would make is Korra fixing everyone's bending right away after one conversation with Aang. Korra should have had to work at it a little, and the consequences should have lasted at least as long as the gap between the first two seasons.The next, and biggest, change I would make would be to introduce at least one recurring spirit character after the spirit portals were opened. This would serve a couple of purposes, but primarily it would give the viewer another perspective on Korra's decision to leave the portals open.
>>150946384Amon as Ty Lee's son. Why don't we see Ty Lee in korra?
>>150947010Moorcock's writings would later go on to be a big inspiration behind D&D, namely the alignment stuff. Moorcock actually cribbed Order vs Chaos from Three Hearts and Three Lions by Poul Anderson who wrote The Broken Sword and Tau Zero.
>>150945472>a former disciple of a revered religious figure turns evil
Remove Vaatu and Rava, and love triangle shit. ThenGo FULL BATTLE SHOUNEN. Add more hype moments and aura.
>>150940326>get rid of pro bendingthis was literally one of the few cool original ideas the show had, why would you dump it?
>>150948685It doesn't really add anything. It can be a background element, but Korra shouldn't be participating, unless you want to make it more important to the story.
>>150948921that's the thing, it very well could have if they bothered to elaborate anything on it, they just never touched on having a sport only a minority of the population can play because they have powers, which further pushes the nonbender oppression hoopla the equalists were pushing.on a semi related note, teams of three sucked and it should been more like a literal martial arts competition akeen to boxing/mma/karate.
>>150948990that's just earth rumble again
>>150949026and? earth rumble was actually good. pro bending was some weird combo of fighting and team objective play.
>>150939630This is beating a dead horse but only Amon and maybe Zaheer survive the cut. Korra has basically the equivalent of 4 Firelords to deal with and each comes with a big break from the lore of the setting. Book 2 is big fucking mistake and Book 4 was built on top of all the fuck ups in the series. The other characters can stay as minor characters.
>>150944075Zuko should have ended with that earth girl.>Paesant to humble him down and ground him in the real worldShit was perfect
>>150942053If that's some writefag you like why you don't just ask him instead of hoping he looks at some random thread?
>>150944367>Aang is emotionally immature but gains maturity as the season goes on because he accepts his responsibilityNo he doesn't, to the very end he's trying to run away from his duty to murk genocide mcchildabuse because it would give him the sadz, and the universe bends over to give him a way to spare his precious feelings. If he'd accepted his responsibilities he'd have redirected the lightning into Ozai.
>>150945047There's also the inherent female desire to be forcibly taken by a high status man that propelled fifty shades to the first, second, and third bestselling spots of its decade - oh wait.
>>150944616This. If you're going to make the villain have a point then you've gotta actually be willing to shake up the status quo and remake the world. That one fic where Ursa gets put in charge is pretty good about that if you can handle the wall of text nature of it.
>>150939630The disaster began with Season 2; and, despite the deepening of the Avatar's origin as well as the addition of new characters in the future, I would strongly recommend that the spin-off last only as a miniseries, as originally planned, but perhaps with 20 episodes instead of 13.
>>150939630That is the Korra?
>>150949595I was talking about his whole arc. He ran away from the air temple because of how he felt but he took time to accept his responsibility and grow. What you're talking about is more the debate over it he should or should not kill. This isn't "him not accepting his responsibility as Avatar" but a moral debate over killing. And that debate over the lion turtle and ending has been much debated already and obviously feels weak. Nothing I said was incorrect and we are talking about two different things.
>>150939630>How would you fix Korra, her characters and story?I'd leave everything the same except kill Zaheer and Kuvira
Make it so Korra isn't the after after Aang. Make it a world where bending is severly diminished due to the lack of spirituality. The avatar can't properly bend so they have to improvise (example, a boulder would too hard for them to push out from the ground. But with proper topology they could creates shapes that are much easier for them to push. Or the ability to start fires but not shoot them out, so Korra starts channeling fire bending through swords and other objects.) The spirits started intermingling with humans too much so some humans are possessed, others have deals but nothing good comes from it. And also lots of pollution happens and because of that the avatar has to start hte apocalypse and kill everybody to start over again.
>>150940497>>150940512That sounds like it'd be even better as 'start on the side of evil, show the work across the series toward getting a redemption arc'. Like, how Zuko got one.
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>>1509396304Elements Korra > OG Korra
>>150950870His story begins with him running away from his responsibility and ends with him running away from his responsibility.
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>>150939630Make Korra completely dominant against everybody except the season's final boss, whom she would have to work against. Korra can be outmaneuvered or outwitted, but she should be otherwise untouchable, which would allow for big flashy fights.Connect all the villains to the Red Lotus to create a through line for the entire series."Amon is done, but where did those elite chi blockers working for him come from?" Every season would have a new mystery to investigate instead of cleaning up Korra's fuckups. Make Korrasami endgame from day one. Slowburn them until s4, but that love triangle was pure cancer.I could go all day.
>>150948685>one of the few cool ideas the show had>What if sportsball but bending>cool ideaNo.
>>150940326Well done anon.I like this.However, could we replace the stupid 1920 aesthetic with something more in line with the setting?1920's is a fine period to pull from, but the hack writers didn't just use it for inspiration, they just straight-up copy-paste'd an early-modern western city into a world with magical martial arts, living mythology, and a cavalcade of unique cultures.Remember the earth city with all the crazy slide infrastructure?That place was designed specifically with the idea that earth-bending could be used for logistics in mind, and the worldbuilding is all the richer for that.
>>150940326Nice
>>150951416Except from the fact he came back and won.
>>150952708Again, he chose to flee responsibility when he wouldn't redirect the lightning into ozai.Aang's feels > the lives of millions
>>150952236>However, could we replace the stupid 1920 aesthetic with something more in line with the setting?Republic City should be a character in and of itself, representing all the bender groups, a true mix, and not a lazy 1920s aesthetic. And it should truly be Korra's home, somewhere she knows the back alleys of.In my mind I see her stealing to feed herself and her friends and seeing the poverty and abuses of power, being treated badly in the more affluent part of the city, a proper class based system that also pushes the theme (such as non benders tending to be on the bottom).All four nations should be represented. I had an image in my mind of her first realising she is the avatar because a group of local bender gangsters begin abusing Acolytes of Aang, people dressed up in Airbender outfits trying to follow his spiritual teaching. They refuse to resort to violence and she feels the need to step in despite her friends saying not to. Stepping up to stop the abuse, be a force of change.
>>150944257>Besides, lesbians don't sell.>what is the owl house>what is Arcane>what is every y/u/ri anime
>>150953114>canceled>canceled >nowhere near the most profitable anime genresthere aren’t enough yuri shitters who actually buy things, we’ve been over this.
>>150952793>I had an image in my mindThis is how I'd introduce Korra/start of the show:>Earth, Fire, Air, Water, instead of people doing the actions it's gold etchings on a wall with sound effects of the elements playing in the background and a flickering candle/torch light effect on the etchings.>Gold etchings/images continue showing the story of Avatar.>Long ago the Fire Nation dominated the world, but a boy in an iceberg was found, he was Aang, the Avatar, master of the four elements, with his friends, heroes all, he sort to free the world. He defeated the Fire Lord and brought balance to the four nations. He travelled the world as a teacher with many adventures along the way (etchings of events post TLA). And he passed in peace (gong sound).>The camera has panned across the gold etchings, moves back revealing the whole tableau, the camera then moves upwards revealing this is a temple and built into it is a huge statue of Aang, on an island in a bay. >The old Avatar is gone, but where is the new Avatar?>Shot flies goes across the bay, establishing shot of the City before going down to a more run down part of town, to a beat cop, this is a rookie cop and future potential Avatar friend.>He sees a girl stealing, he runs after them, fun chase scene ensues, just when he thinks he has caught her, she bends water to make him slip.>She enters the richer part of the city, people look at her with disgust and she is shooed away. >She brings the food back to her friends near the Central Air temple. An Acolyte dressed in Air Nomad garb lightly chastises her behaviour, but she retorts that Aang resorted to less than savoury behaviour on occasion. He says he could provide her with more food if she helped out or listened to a teaching but she finds it boring.>The police officer catches up with her but is out of breath.(1/2)
>>150953271>A gang of bender gangsters try to extort the temple, beating down the Acolyte. Accosting the rookie cop. The Acolyte refuses to resort to violence, blessing Aang's name. Korra wants to intervene but her friends suggest not to.>In the end she intervenes and uses the soup of the poor eating in the temple to fight the gangsters.>Fight scene ensues.>She runs out of soup, the benders make a retort about it.>Then we see the wind chimes begin to move, she unleashes an air blast defeating them.>The Acolyte, the cop and the poor look at her with differing emotions, awe, shock, surprise. The Acolyte says.. Korra.>Cue title.Here you have established, what people think of Aang, his legend, how the city looks/works and have Korra revealed as Avatar as well as a bunch of action. Maybe have some graffiti during the chase with Equalist symbology.(2/2)
>>150953271Pretty much takes some of the preexisting opening stuff but much further in a better direction
>>150953539The Korra opening does have a gold image of the old gang and an Aang statue, but my idea uses that but better. Her introduction in the show is her as a child smashing through a wall and the white lotus discovering her, leading to her sparring with people. It is flat and boring to me.
i literally can't get over how they took an guaranteed hit into a mediocre ball of squandered potential. LoK is not a bad show, but the sheer amount of greatness left on the table due to complete incompetence just sours everything about it
>>150939630>How would you fix Korra,Why fix something that isn't broken?
>>150939630>How would you fix Korra,How do you make a glass hammer functional?
>>150939630Her starting out as an asshole is fine but ending up as the exact same asshole with no character development at all is unforgivable.
>>150942099>>150942175>>150942224I really like your ideas anon, I would honestly encourage myself to read your fic if you develop it
>>150954665She's gay now. That's the development.
>>150954169U wot?
>>150941966They could have just assigned Korra bodyguards instead of imprisoning her for over a decade.
>>150957102Women are fundamentally unserious.
>>150939630Why can't she be Korra?
>>150945047This is a huge one for me. I honest to god think that a majority of Zutara shippers like it better purely because it's more visually appealing and falls into the bad boy x good girl archetype that people love. Katara in particular does have a lot of chemistry with Aang in that he's literally the only guy to regularly get her to loosen up. The whole point of their dynamic is that she starts off a parentified child even looking after her OLDER brother and immediately slots Aang as another younger brother to take care of while he instantly falls for her as a cool, pretty older sister type. But Aang ends up being an emotionally aware guy, something that was completely foreign to Katara growing up with the chavaunists of the Southern Water Tribe. Aang is a completely fresh take on a male to Katara and he teaches her how to have fun in the meanwhile. It's only after Aang grows up a little bit and shows Katara his resolve to balance his duty and ideals that Katara begins to stop seeing him so much as a younger brother. Stuff like them dancing together when Aang went undercover in that Fire Nation school is just pure chemistry as well. I think Aang being an awkward (even ugly at times) bald kid in itself makes shippers feel like he doesn't match with Katara or that "there's no chemistry". Zuko is just another emotionally constipated man in the list of those that Katara's grown up dealing with and that in itself already makes any emotional chemistry between him and Katara sink like a stone. They're both anal-retentive too despite both chilling out a lot by the end of the story, so Zutara could really only work if you started building it up after the main story.
>>150959506You put more thought into their relationship with that paragraph, then was actually shown on screen in any believable way.
>>150954792Pro athlete level gangster kids would be smooth as fuck with the ladies. Mako and Bolin both should have been 11/10s when it came to seducing Korra and both should be confident as fuck realistically. Bolin's depiction in this series as a blathering spineless nerd with zero game makes no sense considering his backstory. Bolin realistically would be a hyper chad. Also have Tenzin and Korra's handlers be pissed that she is hanging out with gangsters instead of doing avatar duties 24/7. I think that kind of happened but it didn't last very long until tenzin accepted Bolin and Mako.
>>150959534The first episode literally telegraphs this by Katara being naggy towards a sexist Sokka and then Aang shows up out of nowhere, inviting her to have fun sledding on penguins. Their dynamic has always been clear and Zutara shippers willfully ignoring the dozens of episodes developing Katara and Aang's dynamic because the "juicier" potential of an enemies-to-lovers arc that maybe got one half of step to even starting to get there doesn't change that.
>>150959759Their opposite sex children who are friendsOf course they'll be married.Now explain why sokka and toph aren't married? There is no indication they would or should be together at any point in the show and their "romantic intentions" were forced in an ep that's still considered retarded and a few scenes all of which were clunky
