realistically speaking, would mutants popping up all over the earth not just result in countries trying to win the arms race over who has better humans with superpowers instead of every single human being turning super racist towards the guy with three nutsacks
And especially it would be white westerners who were the most compassionate and accepting. African bush men would be trying to eat night crawler. Storm would have gotten her head chopped off as soon as her powers emerged.
>>150939937Storm would be working for some warlord, or would be a warlord after overthrowing the previous one.
>>150939937>>150940393Idk tribal worship actually seems like a plausible outcome
>>150940393Storm would 100% be revered as a goddess with her weather powers. In fact that happens in the comics as well.
>>150939907Both, both is good. Even in the X-Men cartoon you had racists and governments trying to weaponise mutants
>>150940433Honestly all things considered Marvel's outcome isnt so unrealistic, the human/hot ones mainly go unoticed, the ugly ones (obviously) get hunted down in witch hunts, the ones in third world nations become local spiritual/religious figures (or are also hunted down if they're ugly like Night Crawler), the governments take notice and start turning them into super soldiers or exploiting their powers like Xorn and Wolverine.
>>150939907>https://youtu.be/1xEp6Mm_E78
>>150939907Yeah it happened multiple times, but then again it's an universe which has stuff like super-serum and whatnot.
>>150939907Realistically speaking mutants would be instantly recognized as an existential threat to human species and every human everywhere would drop whatever they're doing and focus 110% on annihilating them. None of this wishy-washy "protest" bullshit, just total massacre 24/7 everywhere on Earth.
>>150939907>>150940671KEK In case you wanted proof your favorite comics were already woke and conservatives are the REAL snowflakes.
>>150939907>arms racemaybe. but from what we saw with Cable and Deadpool, the FF would be Nick Fury's lapdog and stop world peace, just like when the avengers were planning to kill the phoenix force (making black panther and beast leave) for bringing world peaceyou can't keep telling stories about this shit without bringing up the fact that capitalists would seek to make profits and maintain the status quo. it would be corporations kidnapping mutants and buying off parents of mutants
>>150941178Stfu troon
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>>150940671>some 10 year old boy is gonna like a woman>we will talk like this is not in fact normaldamn, those evangelical christians are just like feminist virtue signallers, aren't they?
>>150941315Sorry, I don't like your fagginess.
>>150941283>it would be corporations kidnapping mutants and buying off parents of mutantsThat'd be a pretty sick X-Men arc. Some Hellfire Club donkus is running a Mutant trafficking ring under the guise of a more blue collar Xavier Institute.
>>150940987Realistically speaking people like Kim Jong Un would be doing everything in their power to get superpowers themselves while simultaneously weaponizing the mutants that appeared in their countries to fight for the fatherland.
>>150941339They always were, and still are.
>>150939907Realistically.>Mutants would be seen as a slur.>None of that homosuperior shit would exist>They'll be called "Overable">They would have subventions in first world country to cope with their need.>Most of them wouldn't be superheroes.
>>150941385hellfire club bourgeoisiemorlock lumpenproletariatthe omega level mutants and psychic mutants would be targetted first and it wouldn't be surprising if they were kidnapped for secret intelligence agencies. black widow, nick fury and other spies would have a problem with thati've never understood why beast, forge and nightcrawler weren't sent to the morlock tunnels to recruit more mutants. beast could help them with medical problems, nightcrawler could offer spiritual guidance, both of them look monstrous and could explain they have a family, and forge, the native american could fix things or make devices that help them live wherever they go.
>>150941350Ok, fag.
>>150939907The X-Men premise can only work by making marvel civilians the biggest batch of assholes of any fictional civilian population, which is a pretty impressive feat on terms of writing.
>>150939907more human than any republican in office right now
>>150941453Don't talk to yourself.
I'd offer my home to cure mutant refugees
>>15093990750/50Countries with heavy religion ties will either pursue them to lynch fhem or worship them as Gods
>>150941488Cute!!! I meant cute. I would never cure them of their specialness
>>150941463it's not unrealistic for there to be corporate propaganda pulling the strings while regular people dont' hate mutants.look at israel. they straight up genociding when a lot of the world doesn't care or actively hates israel. plenty of similar shit could be realistically added to x-men arcs
>>150941686P.S. i think israel is a relevant example considering the liberal capitalists at marvel decided for magneto to directly compare krakoa to israel
>>150941706>krakoaWhat happened to Genosia?
>>15094173016 million mutants genocided by a sentinel that was programmed by xavier's twin-but-also-evil-spirit-thingas soon as the sentinel became self aware it immediately fucked off because it probably didn't like what it had just been used for. to be honest i can't think of a worst way to come in to self consciousness
>>150939907No, the government would just kill all superhumans to protect their precious status quo where they have everything and the peasants can fuck themselves.
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>>150939907The real question is why would the parents of mutant children willingly give their loved offspring of approx. 13 years or so up to a racial indoctrination learning center/paramilitary group.
>>150941590Eh, idk, it depends on the countey and religion. An anon made a thread about religions reacting to mutants and the gist was that >Christianity will vary depending on denomination but for the most part would be accepted>Islam would be seen as a holy aid to their jihad but a couple of them would also hunt them down.>Israel would be against them.
>>150944191Most of the kids at Xavier's school were abandoned by their human parents because they were mutants.
>>150944732So your telling me these people birthed and raised a kid for over a decade and now just want to abandoned them because their skin is now the color purple and can turn their fingers into bendy straws, that seems a little idiotic to me.
>>150944804What kind of sheltered life do you live? Parents do that to their kids for lesser.
>>150944804Marvel parents have done much worse to their kids than abandonment for being mutants.
>>150941442Morlocks wouldn't be lumpenproles, they'd be be idpol freaks. Originally the Morlocks were straight up a cult centered around being a mutant, most of them were intentionally given deformities by Masque as part of an initiation ritual to both cement their obedience to Calisto and prevent them from rejoining ordinary society. Realistic Morlocks would be running Discord servers and pressuring kids and teens to run away from home to join their fellow mutants.Internet slapfights between Morlocks and U-Men trying to groom kids on social media isn't something I knew I wanted to see in X-Men.>>150941750I think he means "political control of territory arbitrated by an international authority without any regard towards local inhabitants resulting in an existential conflict, displacement, and mass migration centered around the formation of a new nation" but the actual historical complexities and politics of the late and post-Ottoman Levant are probably too much for most comic readers and writers.
>>150944831Yeah but those people are already shit people to begin with, what I'm pointing out is seemingly normal people giving their children over to basically a racial hegemony for no other reason than their child has bag genes now apparently.
>>150945117Usually, the parents kill their mutant kids or hand them over to the local anti-mutant group to be killed.Very few of the kids in the X-Men's care were handed over by their parents. They either had chance encounters with the X-Men, got saved by the X-Men or sought out the X-Men themselves.
>>150939907You would probably end up with a hell of a lot more warlords taking over smaller, weaker nations. If a sufficiently powerful mutant pops up in Mozambique or Bolivia and nothing in the government can stop the guy with amazing godlike powers, then that guy becomes the king.One would think this might actually be the main function of the X-Men. They go to places around the world and put a stop to some new mutant that decided they should be the new king of Ghana. Simply because they have powers and everyone else does not, and the army cannot stop them.
>>15093990790s comics covered this with all the Weapon X shit and the Soviet mutant weapon programs like Omega Red. There was an arms race to see who can make a good weapon out of their local mutants.
>>150940415some dingy african tribe would claim that someone gave birth to a witch and the rival tribe or someone who hates wtiches would come in and bash storms brains in with a rock
>>150941393So would every billionaire.The wealthiest and most influential people in the world would have Zemo in their immediate contacts to give them the ionic treatment and becomes a class 100, Hulk-tier unstoppable, immortal badass. And then make routine payments so he can re-up the ionic powers since they need a recharge every now and then. Others wold likely go to something like AIM and fund research into recreating Monica Rambeau's powers, High Evolutionary's powers, or transforming themselves into something like Adam Warlock. anything that gives a high level of power but with immortality. Or there would be an actual illuminati of the wealthiest people in the world in a setting where magic is real and people can be taught it. The world leaders would all take mandatory sorcery lessons so they can also be immortal, read minds, control common people and influence the world with magic. No one is going to revolt against a guy that can call lightning, conjure demons, turn people to stone, or just take over their minds.
>>150939907The "super racist humans" X-men thing always felt extremely forced. Most humans would think of it as either weird and fucking awesome, or see that as a strange disease.The racist narrative only exist to justify Magneto's jewish fears. The guys has superpowers but he is afraid to be deported again, it make no sense.
>>150939907Look, the reason why the bigotry parallel in X-Men doesn't work despite Marvel's "the world outside your window" framework is because before Claremont drew parallels with bigotry in his run of the series, the X-Men were mainly inspired by psychic pulp fiction stories like Slan, The Baldies, and the Time Wanderers. Claremont unknowingly unearthed this influence, but it wasn't compatible with what his intent was for the characters and going "being a mutant is like being a minority or gay".Psychic fiction never has a happy ending. Humanity is always justified in fearing psychics because they are a living existential threat to regular people. They can violate your mind and body, move shit with their brains, and violate the laws of physics. Allowing them to live would risk mankind to fall under the enslavement of demigods. Peaceful psychics can't even live normally among humans because they could accidentally kill innocent people, gradually abuse their powers without meaning to, not be able to control their powers, or suffer from information overload.These stories always end in genocide, exile, or one group going "we're moving to a different planet".
>>150946328Let's be real, the only problem Magneto had with the Holocaust was that he didn't get to wear the Hugo Boss.
>>150946328fun fact, Magneto's character would later go on to be inspired by an actual Zionist, look it up
>>150946419What Marvel SHOULD do is push the psychic fiction influence to be more ordinary/domestic/mundane instead of "THE RACE WAR STARTS NOW" and fit with Marvel's established capeshit worldbuilding>mutants start popping up>although tensions initially rise, they are quickly dismissed due to "useful mutations" being co-opted by humanity at large>if you're attractive and have flashy/cool/practical superpowers, you basically become a celebrity overnight and can more or less get whatever kind of job or life you want>but if you're ugly/deformed/weird looking and not "useful", you're either kept indoors your whole life, abandoned and left to fend for yourself, or end up as a freakshow for people to point and gawk atmake it a disability parallel, not a race/sexuality one>Cyclops got the stoic gigachad autism>the average Morlock got the Chris-Chan autism
>>150946534Isn't that kinda what Grant Morrison did?
>>150940487>germany>third world country
>>150944321Do you have an archive link to this thread? Sounds interesting
>>150946663Yeah, but he didn't go far enough with it. If X-Men writers continue to go with the racism/homophobia parallel, then it falls into the trap of "the real life Other actually IS dangerous" while if they drop that angle complete but keep the conflict anyways, we just get another 'psychics vs humans" story to throw onto the pile.It's a lot funnier too.>oh wow, you're a mutant!!! that's so cool>ehhhh its okay I guess>what's your power>shooting my nails like bullets>that's awesome!!!>it's not...it hurts and they have to grow back :(And it would go full circle to Stan Lee coming up with an excuse to create more superheroes and villains. Just come up with whatever kind of character and story for them that you want, as long as they're a mutant.
>>150944804anon up until like 20 years ago it was about a 50% chance your parents would disown you for being gay/bi. Hell, it still happens to this day, even if a lot less often
>>150939907Both can be true at the same time.
>>150947168You cannot compare having suddenly blue skin and weird powers with having a love for dicks inside your butthole. There are two very different things.
>>150946798East germany is pretty poor and germany in the 50's was still recovering.
>>150939907>Mutants abuse their powers>Humans become afraid and racist towards MutantsThis is what I hate the most about X-Men, they never put the sole blame on the mutants, it's always the normal humans fault.
>>150947221What if it were both of those things?
>>150939907it would be both, just how ppl are racist against asians while letting them migrate into their countries en masse to have them run their technological industries, just how people hated homosexuals but loved their good artwork, just how people hate blacks but love jazz and rock n roll and rap and hip hop and rnb and having well plowed fields for free, and, and. just how people opressed women but loved having clean shirts and hot breakfast in the morning and a good fucking at night.the fact is that probably they would be both hated and used as tools, probably the hatred used as a means to get them to be good tools for cheaper and easier since their own self worth as mutants wld be low
>>150939907The US government stole Emma Frost’s ovaries to create a hundred clone daughters to capture the Phoenix Force and enact Total Mutant Death
>>150947421>referring to shitskins as AsiansI know what you are.
>>150947421>rock n roll Not completely wrong
>>150939907>countries trying to win the arms race over who has better humans with superpowersZdarsky is finally addressing other nations having their own Captain Countries. Claremont tried to build a team from around the world but immediately killed the Native American guy and threw Sunfire off the team so it was just a bunch of white people plus Storm. It'd be interesting to explore mutant teams across the world, whether they made schools inspired by Professor X or did something different.
>>150947569They should've struck a deal with Scarlet Witch instead.
>>150940987I don't think so. Maybe some people would, but many have a more practical vision; they'd notice they can use the mutants for a bunch of stuff no ordinary human could do.Also, isn't it pointless to fight against the mutants anyway? They are a natural phenomena, why not just accept that it is the next step in human evolution?
>>150947576latina. and im assuming u thought I meant indians but I meant like. chinese people.
>>150945091they're literally lumpenproles though. they hide and don't engage in society, they have no interest in mutant strugglealso excuse me anon you dropped your monocle. please continue, since i actually understand what you just said.
>>150946419except for the part about normal humans using nukes should be made braindead so nuclear war never happens. that was revealed about xavier in the krakoa arc and it's like one of maybe 2 things in the krakoa arc that are based
>>150940987damn, anon. you just made apocalypse seem like less of a bad guy. maybe non-superpowered humans are not that simplistic
>>150939937>>150945918Bushmen are actually chill. They work hard to make a living and understand hardship. The Congolese on the other hand...
>>150948777congo used to be called zaire, and the CIA engaged in regime change therecongo has a fuck ton of valuable minerals that western corporations want to extract. there's slave labor and rape squads from neighboring countries, and u.s. presidents have gone to congo and neighboring countries and shook everyone's hands like nothing is wrong.there's a reason the news in the 90s was constantly talking about iraq or kosovo but never congo. there's shady shit going on there because foreigners want the resourcesit's also likely that diane fossey was murdered to stop her from supporting the protoection of gorillas. the virunga national forest isn't supposed to be mined, but we all know damn well corporations want profits, fuck our closest primate relatives. same goes for the palm oil plantations destroying the rainforests that orangutans are supposed to live
>>150948853>congo used to be called zaireThat's DR Congo, not plain Congo.
>>150939937>And especially it would be white westerners who were the most compassionate and acceptinggo outside
>>150948942that anon is probably right though. a lot of africans that believe in vodoun and witchcraft kill cats in horrible ways out of sheer superstition. there are some africans that are evil to cats
>>150948942>go outside>all the homos and minorities are accepted in white western countries while in brown third world shitholes they are beheadedWhat did he mean by this?
>>150939907Lol I dunno
>>150950318Me too, bro
>>150948671They're defined by a rejection of society and their interest in the mutant struggle is separatism. Mapping them onto modern political positions, they'd be anarcho-communists. An exploitative anarcho-communist commune to be specific. People like Mags would call them lumpenproles, but only as a pejorative for abiding by their own revolutionary position rather than following others.
>>150939907>realistically speaking, would mutants popping up all over the earth not just result in countries trying to win the arms raceYes>over who has better humans with superpowers instead of every single human being turning super racist towards the guy with three nutsacksNo humans are generally just racist or prejudiced as fuck and will attack and demonize people for any fucking reason>nose too big>skin too dark>hair to curly>gay>trans>disabled>speak a different language>virgin>not a virgin>from a different country>from a different region of the same country>from a different post/zip code in the same city>heightI could go on.
>>150948942He's right.
>>150939907How Mutated are they?
>>150945918It could go both ways.
