>>150952308
but it didn't?

>>150952308
What the fuck do you want, Fawlty Towers with demons? A bland formulaic "guest of the week" show?

>>150952347
Not everything has to be subversive soap opera shlock designed solely to facilitate shipping autism

>>150952455
So WHAT DO YOU WANT? Clearly articulate what you desire from this show.

>>150952308
Because it never had a premise. It's a DeviantArt user wanting people to draw porn of her characters while struggling to maintain a fake image of edginess when it's for fucking theater kids.

>>150952308
It's better this way
The morals of raging commiefornians doesn't interest me

>>150952308
excuse plot.

>>150952308
The hotel premise was really a pretext. The premise is that this is a spring board for fetish material.

>>150952455
>>150952533
>no reply
Okay, you wanna know what I think? You don't actually know what you want. You only know what you don't want, which is whatever you get. So you're impossible to please, and we're done here unless you prove me wrong.

>>150952308
>Still set in a hotel
At least it's better than Helluva "Literally anything but assassination missions" Boss.

>>150952347
>A bland formulaic "guest of the week" show?
I wanna decapitate every single one of the faggots who say shit like this. Retards like you are why our current entertainment landscape sucks ass so much.

>>150953020
It's funny how you seem to be completely unable to articulate what you want. It's almost like I'm right, and you don't actually know.

>>150953187
Not the other Anon but I'll spoofed you:
I wanted Helluva Boss to be a raunchy episodic show about demon hitman, each episode on a different mission and a couple of episodes on other things around the characters to change the pace a bit. Some continuity but nothing too crazy.

You know, I wanted the show to be what it sold itself in the pilot, not a fucking gay relationship drama and daddy issues.

If you want to make a show about that, fucking tell me that before I waste my time through 10 episodes.

>>150952308
Charlie and the hotel will never be a big focus. Season 3 is clearly all about Lucifer and the Eden story and Heaven hierarchy and secrets and season 2 is just filler to build up to it.

As is right, Lucifer best boy and the favorite for a reason.

>>150952308
Yes, and i dont know why people are so mad about "Hazbin Hotel is about character development, the struggles in Hell and people wanting redemption" instead of "social revolution, Hell vs Heaven, people in power do bad things"

I was specting something emotional and more grounded, and we find another generic "the good guys are bad", "war to save my people" and "we must dismantle the social structure"

>>150952551
this
I can't believe anyone actually watches it instead of just gooning to the character art

>>150952533
>>150952752
Look at this fucking jew. Look at him. WE WANT EPISODES ABOUT THE HOTEL INSIDE THE HOTEL WITH GUEST OF THE WEEK, BIATCH.

THE SHOW TIMESKIPPED SO HARD IT IGNORED ITS OWN PREMISE AND THE HOTEL WAS IN THE BACKGROUND.
Show timeskipped so much it felt like you watched 3 episodes at best.

>>150952533
nta but Vivzy should have had a hard set bar of what was good and evil. All the plot lines are wish wash of contradictions and confusion because of it.
>No one knows how to get into Heaven
In HH the Angels don’t actually know what gets someone into heaven and I don’t think Vivzy knows either.
>Heaven is just a crass and snobbish gated community so why would you even want to be there?
If the people in heaven are just arrogant A-holes what makes it any different from just being suburban hell?
>The annual culling of the denizens of hell
This is just another thing on to show Heaven being in the wrong but it falls flat when your in literal hell and clearly show evil people living in it.
>unironically has a character call the people in hell innocent
There are rapist, cannibals, murderers and rapist cannibal murderers in your depiction of hell Vivzy, why do you think people end up in hell?
>dedicates an episode on how sexual assault is terrible but also uses casual gang rape as a joke.
The plot also isn’t going to spin it into good/evil being some subjective perspective because clearly Vivzy finds things to be clearly evil. She wants to have the Heaven and Hell setting but doesn’t touch on what repentance even means beyond “saying sorry”. Sorry for what? Why did this person end up in hell if you can’t even define what they need to repent from?
She is obviously pulling her setting inspiration from Jude’s-Christian faith or at least Dante’s inferno imagine how much more interesting the conflict would be if Heaven is unwaveringly in the right. A hard as nails Law that everyone in hell has ultimately failed to follow and HH essentially becoming purgatory.
There’s a lot more minor things with the writing but honestly if there was an actual standard set for the audience it would have made the plot lines far less of a mess.

>>150952308
There's no way fags from broadway are gonna hide the leaks for next 6 days, right?

https://hazbinhotel.lnk.to/s2-soundtrack
https://www.hellaversemusic.com/
waiting...

>>150953254
Episodic shit is so boring I dont know how theres Is people that like that, I dont even like helluva but thats because I dont like romance would have rather like that the focus was on the imps fighting for revolution over the higher demons

>>150952347
>A bland formulaic "guest of the week" show?
Yes

>>150954822
I have the S2 OST on preorder in vinyl form. I also have the S1 vinyl but I can't get a good rip of it.

>>150952308
>>150952455
>>150952681
>>150953020
>>150953254
>>150953505
>>150953522
>>150955016
You people are so boring. You'd rather HH be a mature rated Fosters Home instead of it trying to be more than episodic nonsense? What's wrong with it having a serialized plot other than it wasn't what YOU wanted, instead of it being what the creator wanted to make

I looked, the episode names for 4 of the eps is real.

I think they were part of the leak from a year ago, which i looked at again.

But ep 3, 5, and 7 were not listed, in the old leak.

>>150955141
Hi vivzie, you suck ass.

>>150955141
People just want slop

>>150955141
And what is what Vivzie (you) want? It will be another "social critic show" that we have tons and tons? Helluva Boss wasnt enough? And, excuse me, but the plots and story telling in both shows are not very good (specially in Hazbin Hotel where everything is rushed and there is 0 character development).
I preffer a simple, funny and sentimental episodic show than a "epic", "deep", "full of meaning", 4 seasons-plot bad written story.

Lots of shills on the prowl now that S2 is nearing its release date.

>>150955658
>6+ days
Longest wait of my life.

My anger over broadway not leaking grows every day.

They are holding it, and laughing at us.

>>150955512
They don't like this, though.

>>150955512
> people just want slop

We are talking about Hazin Hotel and Helluva Boss, very sloppy. 80% of the people watch it because they find the characters sexy (im one of those), because the rest... pretty mediocre

>>150955141
>sets up a premise
>doesn't follow up on the premise
>UGHH! WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANNNNNNT!

>>150955141
>Titanic
>but the movie is about grandma's life 10 years after the incident with some flashbacks, not about what happened in the ship

Adam did nothing wrong.

>>150955927
Pretty much

>>150956185
He had a VA who can actually sing, unlike half the cast. I don't know how people listen to Hazbin Guarantee past Charlie's part because none of their VAs can sing and they keep trying to hide it behind Vox.

>>150955720
>>150955779
People here want episodic Gore how is that not more slop thank wathever is going on with helluva en?

https://theradiocall.netlify.app/

I found this for you guys
It doesn't do much, and will only entertain for maybe 30 seconds.

Enjoy your 30 seconds.

>>150955512
>People just want slop
>Uhhhhh yeeeeah so let's turn this show about redemption into a transdimensional war between heaven and hell
You're so retarded it's not even funny

>>150957017
You are the retarded one fucking idiot you want an enterly different story, just write it yourself, I would agree with you If the heaven war wasnt a fucking plot point since the pilot/episode 1, and now expanding on It is a problem? Do you have a 5sec attention span ?

>>150953505
But it's not about those either. The only characters that do any developing are the ones in weakly written relationship drama. The focus in the work was clearly put into the aesthetic so that people online would fall in love with their interpretation of it.

>>150952308
Just because YOU thought a specific concept was the show's premise, it doesn't mean that was the show's actual premise.

>>150957187
>retard
>no u
Lol lmao even no not a single point in the pilot where they hinting a taking arms and fighting directly heaven, the whole point was redeeming sinners at the hotel and prove it could work the whole point was to avoid extetmination remind me again why the show is called Hazbin Hotel?

>>150957459
They are still redeming people idiot and of course we were gonna get war with heaven the fucking angels were despicted with evil grins and horns, did you really thought they were just gonna sit and be genocied illiterate retard you need to have the story hold your hand and explain everything single detail for you to understand

>>150952308
It's the hallmark of ADHD/amateur storytelling where a creative refuses to abide by KISS (keep it simple, stupid) and is too insistent on throwing everything and the kitchen sink in their first project. you only get your dream project once, but too many people like Viv think it has to be their first

>>150957322
except Viv has been very public about the first two seasons are just set-up to get to the story she actually wants to tell, and the stark differences between the original episode concepts and plot for season one vs what we actually got kinda make it obvious that the latter is just Viv doing what she wants rather than abide by the story engine and premise that she established in the first place

>>150957680
>did you really thought they were just gonna sit and be genocied illiterate retard
Well according to the show itself they did, Countless times actually the yearly extermination is expected every fucking year as it's name imply it's regular occurence there I'm holding your hand explaining you the story as you say, the angel were shown as threatening because they were an actual threat that you needed to take seriously it's as simple as that
>They are still redeming people idiot
Are they now? The only resident of the hotel was Angel and they did not spent any time showing an arc of redemption at the hotel, You just had Pentious shoehorned instead suddenly being redeemed because if you're a crime and kill people on the regular I guess it's ok as long as you die trying to help other murdereous sinners everything goes.
Arguing with you is a waste of time I have to explain to you the events of the show to get anywhere I'm not gonna waste my time

>>150957683
>and the stark differences between the original episode concepts and plot for season one vs what we actually got
Pilot: hey what if people in hell could be redeemed
season 1: hey look at these hell people being good people, oh look one got into heaven
?????????? buddy what the fuck are you talking about

>>150957908
Acting like Im wasting your time as if you arent lurking on 4chan please stop acting all high and mighty bc It doesnt help you you are still an idiot, so then hunger games also isnt a well written story bc they let the capitol kill them for years?, thats what the story is for its an event that changes the status quo in this case Charlie making the hotel is what brings Alastor in, its what makes Charlie have a reason to fight with heaven since she now has sinners that she cares about.
>Are they now? The only resident of the hotel was Angel and they did not spent any time showing an arc of redemption at the hotel
You just proved you dont watch the show bc even If angel wasnt reedemed in season one he did change and we saw that in the last episodes were he is more calm and less irrational.
If you were really this "intelectual" what are you even watching cartoons for

>set up trial in heaven as ticking clock in episode 1
>do episode addressing how charlie doesn't know therapy
>do episode addressing how there's genuinely awful people in hell and charlie can't talk them down
>do episode addressing why charlie advocates sinners specifically
>these can mostly be done with standard SoL shennanigans
>overrarching side plots about pentious changing sides and charlie reconnecting with lucifer
>throw in some vaggie foreshadowing
>everyone else is just minor roles - you get their personality but they're just there for throwaway gags, like simpson characters appearing for one scene
>finale is a 2 parter
>vaggie reveals angelic steel works so there's no glaring plot hole
There's more I could say, but that sums up how to fix it.

>>150955141
Foster's Home was kino, and Foster's Home with shamelessly-sinful swearing demons who constantly show why they're such fuck-ups who struggle to be redeemed each week is a kino concept.

>>150952308
> redemption plot being diluted by Heaven and Hell war but Heaven actually le bad.
The whole thing is written like a rebellious teen that just wants to stick it to their parents, but can’t actually articulate a valid argument.

>>150958927
Isn't that just vivzie? She came from a christian household iirc

>>150958946
Life imitates art

>>150958952(me)
…imitates life

>>150952347
>Fawlty Towers with demons?
yes