I don't understand her motivation
big brother cock
>>150965700it's the millenia
>>150965700She thinks she was the empress heir apparent to the winning empire but forgot that women were only seen as property back then.
>>150965704She barely thinks about hom
>>150965704pretty muc
>>150965700"I want power"?
>>150965700Friendly reminder this show is highly satanic as it teaches children Buddhism the work of the DEVIL>>150965745Also this
>>150966780Stfu, amerlard faggot
>>150965700she's the nortubel of avatar
>>150965700She was jealous of her betters.
Ozai raised her wrong.As a joke.
>>150966396Eh, not really. She thinks about him constantly, she tries to mind fuck him every chance she gets and when he refused to come back to the fire nation she set up multiple scheme on how to get him to return.After losing to him in the comet fight she resolves to spend the rest of her life pushing him from the shadows to be the kind man she wants him to be.People translate this as her lusting after him but it's not a stretch to say she is yandere for her brother.>>150965700Getting daddies approval, I'm not joking, that is literally it.In a way she is just like Zuko in S1 in that she does everything to prove her worth to her father as she thinks that will earn her love and recognition; the difference between her and Zuko was that he grew a conscience and she didn't. Azula feels unloved and that her own mother thought she was monster but Ozai showed her affection as long as she did as he wanted so sh ended up mimicking her father, unaware that he was a psychopath.She has on obsession with her brother because on some level she realizes that he is the one person who loves her unconditionally and so she manipulates him to in being by her side as that is the only way she understand how to keep people close to her.
>>150966949Stfu, coomerfag
>>150966998did you not even read what I wrote? I directly refute the incest shit.
>>150966949>she resolves to spend the rest of her life pushing him from the shadows to be the kind man she wants him to beI wouldn't put to much stock into any characterization from the comics, especially from Yang's run. The more recent comics have completely dropped the Azula wanting to make Zuko a better Fire Lord plot and she's back to thinking the throne is rightfully hers and blaming Zuko for everything bad in her life. It seems they're trying to reset her character back to being a geniune threat to Zuko amd the newfound peace in the world. probably so they can set her up as the villian in one of fhe future movies
>>150967597>she's back to thinking the throne is rightfully hers and blaming Zuko for everything bad in her life.Thats fucking gay, she ending up getting the throne at the end of the show and it wasn't what she actually wanted. The whole series repeatedly showed she wanted loyal friends, the love of her family, and to be accepted for who she was.The ghost writer for the show always meant for her to have a redemption arc, if they regress her character and she goes back to being a pure villain modern nick will make her the most insufferable girlboss imaginable.
>>150967822How do you know this show had a ghost writerInb4 the ghost writer said so
>>150965700A gifted psychopath and obsessive perfectionist, who her more cruel tendancies were rewarded instead of punished, with a dictator father she both aimed for power/influence like him and familiar respect/love through the cruel conquering tactics that she (again) was previously rewarded for.All resulting in a blue flame spewing crazygirl who wouldn't settle until she was the top 0.01%, and would solve even small day to day things like playing volleyball with friends like a battle strategy that needs visctory by any means necessary.
>>150967857nigga, if you don't know who Aaron Ehasz is you have no idea what you are talking about. All you have to do is google his name and ATLA is the first thing that comes up.Go be a faggot somewhere else
>>150967822>>150967857Aaron Ehasz wasn't a ghost writer. He was the head writer. He probably had the most influence on the show after Michael DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko.That line about Azula being crazy? He wrote that line. He was the writer on that episode.
>>150968173I don't think you know what a ghost writer is. Because that anon is right. The show didn't have any ghost writers, at least that we know of. Ehasz certainly wasn't one.
>>150968173>Mad while being wrong El oh el
>>150965700>I don't understand her motivationThen you're an idiot. Maybe don't watch something while on your phone. Or ask ChatGPT before publicly outting yourself as a retard.
>>150968183>>150968202That was something that came out later, Bryke wanted all the credit and Ehasz was written in only as an assistant writer when in reality he wrote far more of the story than bryke did, I would argue he wrote almost all of it; thats why when bryke got total control in Korra they spent a good of time destroying what Ehasz wrote.He was the ghost writer in the sense that he wrote far more than what was originally told to people while the show was airing. But you are right that he was listed as a formal member of the writing team.
>>150967822To be fair be also intended for her to hit rock bottom before she could be redeemed and said that she hadn't hit rock bottom at the end of the show. Maybe she just has further to go to reach that bottom
>>150967822that anon didn't read the spirit temple comic faith evans wrote, though to be fair noone did kek. they through out the smoke and shadow yandere stuff but "The whole series repeatedly showed she wanted loyal friends, the love of her family, and to be accepted for who she was." was where she was reset to, she's just currently in denial about it while on the run.
>>150968293>>rock bottomWould that be an unintentional pregnancy?
>>150968267>holy mandala effectI'm guessing the credits were revised during the reruns post 2008, because i thought ehasz was always credited as the main writer. good find>I would argue he wrote almost all of it; thats why when bryke got total control in Korra they spent a good of time destroying what Ehasz wrote.makes me thing the worldbuilding bryke gets credit for wasn't theirs since they are nuking it for the next show too.
>>150968403>throughthrew, fucking spell correct
>>150968461This does line up with the og pitch for the show being some cyberpunk slop
>>150968267His title on the show is head writer. The head of the writers. His job was literally to write and comtribuute to every episode and help iget it across the finish line. He's credited on 59 of the show's 61 episodes as head writer. A ghost writer is a writer who isn't credited at all in a piece of media they wrote for. You don't know what a ghost writer is.Second, no one has ever disputed Aaron Ehasz's contribution to the show. It's literally impossible with how much his name comes up in every episodes credits. But a lot of retards on the show over credit him for the show acting as he wrote all of it himself. Brian and Michael came up.with all of the show's world.building, characters, lore and most of the shows major story beats, including Zuko's redemption. It's in their pitch bible. Ehasz job was to help smooth out all those ideas, make things consistent and help with characterization. He contributed to every single script because that what they literally hired him for. Every single bad thing about the show Ehasz had a hand in. Every single good thing he also had a hand in. So did Mike and Brian.
>>150965700Parental Issues and deep psychosis
>>150965700Don't worry, that whole 'become a real boy' thing is overrated anyway. Now go back to making pornslop, tone-deaf minions pictures and stonks for silicon valley.
>>150968461He was. The end credits change from episode to episode. Fucking retards. Ehasz is also credited as a co-producer to this day. It's against union rules to change the credits or take anyone names off the credits on any show or movie. Ehasz could sue the fuck out of nick and nick would be black listed fromt the industry. Jesus how fucking dumb is everyone here.
>>150968630NTA but you are off about certain things. >But a lot of retards on the show over credit him for the show acting as he wrote all of it himself. it's somewhere in the middle. aaron had a staff underneath him that were vital parts to the shows writing. and the directors like giancarlo and filoni also contributed a bunch. it was lightning in the bottle with the right staff, but a lot of the bigger character work/plot work had ehasz's hand on it.>Brian and Michael came up.with all of the show's world.building, characters, lore and most of the shows major story beats, including Zuko's redemption. It's in their pitch bible.this pitch isn't the original idea for the show, this is known information. the entire reason avatar got the greenlight was because nick hired a writing staff to fine tune things into what eventually became this pitch, and even then it was clearly revised past that. it's very hard to believe mike and bryan came up with everything when they keep retconing things from atla to this day. The entire premise of zuko wasn't theirs, he was a last minute suggestion because the crew felt the series needed a foil to aang. And we know for a fact Zuko, Iroh, Toph and Azula were either directly crafted or heavily revised by others.>Every single bad thing about the show Ehasz had a hand in. Every single good thing he also had a hand in. So did Mike and Brian.Read up on how split the writers room was going into s3. Aaron was credited for 59 episodes but left production half way into s3. there's an actual og script for southern raiders by elizabeth welch that was heavily revised by bryke, and if you've read it, you know exactly why. the only idea that there was proven concensus on was unironically energybending, and even then aaron had a completly different plan for it if the show had gotten more episodes. hell even shamalan is on record in saying bryke told them the crew had no idea exactly how things were going to end.
>another shitty bait threadAt least you waited a week to post. Praise azula and move on
>>150968792>>150968267which episode are we talking about, because for all i know you two can be using pics from different episodes. a head writer would be credited as such on every episode so the first anon has to show proof that he wasn't credited as such at one point.>It's against union rules to change the creditsyou very much can do this with permission, and writers very much have the right to challenge an initial credit. i've never heard of any credit disputes so you're probably right about aaron, but this statement isn't iron clad, especially when we dont know the terms set here.>Fucking retardsCalm the fuck down with the sperging
>>150965700Ch3ap Asuka rip off. >>150965745Muh feminism shit. Tell me, when has any woman in the series been shat on fir being a woman. Outside if the retarded go learn how to heal, something that makes uou mire valuable then 100 warriors, like the rest of tge women! Shit.She was powerful, feared, respected.
>>150968858>https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/x13h5j/the_first_concept_art_for_avatar_aang_was/This was also in the artbook. the show was very different prior to the ip bible/pitch. keep in mind were nobodies prior to atla outside of working on storyboards for invader zim and nick desperatly wanted something besides spongebob with all there other shows being cut or on the way out at the time. No way were they allowed to craft a whole by themselves without having a staff guiding them every step of the way.
>>150969040She wasn’t respected or loved by Ozai.That was the point.
>>150969093>*bryke were nobodies
>>150968511>being some cyberpunk slopShut it
>>150968888Kys, subhuman.
>>150969040>Ch3ap Asuka rip off.Stfu weebtroon
>>150969204??
>>150969235"Slop" is a meaningless buzzword
>>150969261what a very odd thing to get upset about. ok i guess, the point was the original idea wasn't good hence why it was changed
>>150969276/co/'s fault
>>150969220...Im sorry are you fucking retarded. >>150969111He didn't respect or care about anyone. Her being his daughter instead of son wouldn't have changed a thing. If she was okay jr. he woukd have done basically the same thing. Shes respected and feared by others. Not looked down on because shes a woman. Shes looked diwn on and hated by everyone because shes exactly like okay. Mayge even worse. And despite not respecting or caring about her he loves her. Because hes a narcissist and they love reflections of themselves and adoration.
>>150969343>...>Im sorry are you fucking retarded.I'm not the one who talks shit in here
She was smart and naturally gifted at firebending so she became Ozai's favorite. Zuko was lucky enough to be disowned and have Iroh take him under his wing
>>150968858>this pitch isn't the original idea for the show, this is known information. This is a normal part of the pitching process. Show's rarely even get looked at on their original draft. The first incarnation of Ben 10 was about superheroes from other dimensions that the mc summoned through a portal in his chest. >the entire reason avatar got the greenlight was because nick hired a writing staff to fine tune things into what eventually became this pitchYeah this is bullshit. Studios don't spend money or resources working on shows they haven't green lit. Being greenlit means they bought the show, they own it. They wouldn't throw resources at two guys no experience running a show and who only worked in art departments on invader zim.and family guy.What did happen was that Brian and Mike, coming off invader zim pitched a coming age show to nick but were told the studio was looking for fantasy lore based shows like LOTR and Harry Potter which were popular at the time and Brian and Mike went and came up with the cyberpunk pitch everyone knows but nick wasn't interested in that. So they kept refining their pitch taking elements from.each iteration that worked untill nick liked what they had then they green lit it. The pitch bible for this version of the show is what's out there. Once Brian and Mike had actual resources amd people working under them they kept refining their pitch untill the show as we know it came about. This is normal and a standard part of pitching a show to getting it on air.Here's an ancient 4chin thread discussing this bilble. I had bits and pieces of the bible saved but I lost it years ago.https://web.archive.org/web/20220216175528/https://plus4chan.org/boards/a/res/58561.html#58775And yes, Brian and Mike wrote all of that. They couldn't afford to hire anyone and anyone who contributed would have had to be credited as co creator. I don't have room to discuss how wrong you are in the rest of your post
>>150969006He is credited as head writer on 59 of 61 episodes om the show.https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0417299/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cst_smYou can check each episode yourself. Also by definition there could only be one head writer on a show at a time. Different episodes don't have different head writers. They just have writers and the head writer helps with each of them to keep.things consistent
>>150969518>They wouldn't throw resources at two guys no experience running a show and who only worked in art departments on invader zim.and family guy.the entire reason why they looked bryke's way at all is because they had no other ideas on their desk at the time. this was mid 2000's nick right around the time they were becoming the spongebob channel. it literally would not cost nick a dime to have editors give brykes ideas a once over when they were already looking for something else to air.>Here's an ancient 4chin thread discussing this bilble. I had bits and pieces of the bible saved but I lost it years ago.Anon, the actual bible(one of many variations, but the revised one) leaked online. second hand accounts like this are worthless.>Brian and Mike wrote all of that. They couldn't afford to hire anyone and anyone who contributed would have had to be credited as co creator. Because uncredited editors and ndas didnt exist for two guys who were already working for nick at the time... how woefully naive
>>150969518>>150969835gee i wonder why pete goldfinger and josh stolberg weren't credited as creators according to your logic
>>150965700i could fix her
>>150969835You're just pulling shit out of your ass. There's absolutely no proof, stories or anecdotes that support this series of events. And yes it would.have cost them money. Editors and writers don't work for free and certainly not for free and uncredited. Do you think studios just keep writers as slaves or something just to do what they want? Do you think people are just willing to give their time and ideas away for free and never say a thk.g or ask for a dime when those ideas make millions for everyone but them? Think about this shit. No sane studios would throw money or resources at two guys with very little under their belt unless they already bought the pitch. Hearing a pitch costs nothing. And they looked at their pitch because both of them worked at Nick on invader Zim and Brian was friends with Eric Coleman the head of development at Nick and he liked the ideas Brian would.tell him. So he got them a meeting to pitch a show. This shit is actually documented.Oh and nick turned into the spogebob channel with gusto. They absolutely did not care about that. LOTR and Harry Potter were big at the time and they were looking to capitalize on that trend and that's why they asked Brian and Mike for something similar at their first pitch meeting. What you posted isn't the pitch bible. It's an ip bible and that's what they gave writers looking to work on the show and interested executives to give them an idea ot what they were working on. It's obviously not finished and not meant to be the final product but is not the pitch bible.we are discussing. The finalized logo is literally on it, its obvious the show has been green and long been in development at this point and close to being finalizedI can't take anything you say seriously because most.what you're saying has no basis in reality, you're just regurgitating half baked rumors from people who don't know shit about shit.
>>150969865This isn't the original pitch bible retard. This is a series bibe which is something the creators of the show give their new writers as a guideline to.the show's world, characters, tone and style. They include a script for the forst.two episodes tl.give them an idea of the writing style they're aiming for. The jews are had nothing to.do.in the shows creation and were most likely brought in when they were filling out the writers room and needed something to give potential hires.And even though the final script for those episodes were different they are still credited for it because union rules says anyone who contributes to something has to be credited for the work they did. Which is why only Mike and Brian are credited as creators.
>>150965700Mommy issues is her motivation
>>150970340>because it's impossible that nick had the ip locked up from day1 with terms deciding who gets credited for what under nda.>they totally put their faith in two unproven writers because a guy put in a word for them, and didn't have anyone help them off the books.>muh pitch bible and ip bible aren't the same, which is irrelevant to the fact that the first two episodes worked on by additional writers in the ip bible is identical to the description in the pitch bible.I cant take anything you say seriously after the 2 decades since atla ended where bryke made sweeping retcons to the entire lore that they somehow came up with themselves. you and the other retard moving goalposts as if you have to be credited as a creator to contribute to a pitch bible as opposed to a writer can keep dancing around the point all you like, no one is believing bryke came up with the whole thing themselves after korra and all the sweeping retcons they've made to atla since then.>thinking it's just the suits who are jews and not bryke as wellKEK
>>150970340>Editors and writers don't work for free and certainly not for free and uncredited.You naive dumbass. companies do exploitive shit like this all the time especially back then, just ask any intern.
>Unions in the 2000's totally made sure everyone got a proper piece of the pieLolLmao even
>>150972043>>150972120>>150972157So you niggas got nothing except vague conspiracy theories abkut a childrens cartoon show? Jesus fucking christ this fandom is dumb as hell.
>>150965700Doesn't have one, she's just batshit insane.
>massive inferiority complex>can only get what she wants from intimidation>mad because fat dumb uncle gives her a dollthis would be enough but the fact that>regrets nothinggame over. put her down like a rabid dog.
>>150965700her dad gives her an order she follows it. How the fuck is this complicated?
