>turned thousands of aspiring writers into checkbox-ticking retards churning out uninspired slop because otherwise it "might not fit in" thus missing the point of fiction>all the drama with fruit farms>mass bans for problematic edits based on all the retarded far-left criteria one imagines>now aggressively ejecting people for adblockThank fucking god. This site was a tumor, especially for /co/ntent.
>>150966078>>turned thousands of aspiring writers into checkbox-ticking retards churning out uninspired slop because otherwise it "might not fit in" thus missing the point of fictionProof?
>>150966096When they keep using tropespeak as a way explain media, they're the last people you want as critics.
>>150966078> turned thousands of aspiring writers into checkbox-ticking retards churning out uninspired slop because otherwise it "might not fit in" thus missing the point of fictionIf they are missing the point of fiction so bad, then they weren't fit to be writers in the first place.This site is cool. It's interesting to browse, and it can provide some inspiration. I like my country's version of it a lot more, tho.
>>150966096I observed this phenomena firsthand
>>150966141I find the only value that site has, such as it is, that it showcases various media. Anything else is garbage.
>>150966078The fact they are banning ad-blockers and expecting people to buy a subscription to their website is pretty fucked. Who thought that was a good idea?
>>150966078>turned thousands of aspiring writers into checkbox-ticking retards churning out uninspired slop because otherwise it "might not fit in" thus missing the point of fictionwhat are you even talking about?
>>150966141Kinda hard to browse it now.Unless you are the kind of retard that fucks hookers without a condom.
>>150966309I think it's the owners after Fast Eddie sold the site.
>>150966078>now aggressively ejecting people for adblocksource?
>>150966353Cancel your subscription and see for yourself.
>>150966078>>now aggressively ejecting people for adblockstill works for me
>>150966458i don't have a subscription retard
i think your pc has a virus anon
>>150966078>bans me and expects me to subscribeHa.
>>150966078>The person responsible for this change and this post >>150966506
>Open Tvtropes>Check the Swallowed Whole/Eaten Alive page>closeAll I do there, really.
>>150966078>>now aggressively ejecting people for adblockjust puttvtropes.org##+js(set, valid_page_types, [])into your ublock filters
>>150966078>all the drama with fruit farmscan you elaborate more of this part?
>>150966078I'll just say it. TV Tropes did more damage to society than 4cahn and tumblr combined.
TVTropes was really one of the only sites that truly reminded me of the old internet and felt like it never changed, as an outsider. Learning about all this bullshit has really sucked the wind out of my sails.
>>150966506I take it your janny application was rejected?
>>150966141I use it as a wiki
>>150966078Why did so many trope listings include a shitload of fanfiction anyway? Some of them were 100% only appearing in fanfiction.
>>150966078I think everyone agrees that it was fun and useful around 2011 or so. Then they made up too damn many tropes, most of which only had a single example at best. Then the place became too overcrowded with too many people making too many edits. And has since only become a place for people to look and awe at the weaponized autism ever after.
>>150966078>look at the ‘nightmarefuel’ section of any game>laughIt was never a good site, I tried to use it for finding specific games but that was always annoying as retards flooded sections, absolutely needed to talk about a game they liked regardless if it didn’t fit>The Minion Master>games section>Pikmin ; Allows control of many creatures>Diablo ; Certain builds allow for control of many creatures>Doom Eternal ; Subverted you’re just Doomguy :^)Fuck you, that’s not how categorizing works you dumb cunts
Post the funny screenshot of the Tranquilized Midsentence page.
>>150966078Actually this troper still finds the site a good read. I always enjoy going back after watching a TV to pick up on things I missed or even discover a new show by clicking on a previously unknown trope.
>>150966078I only use it for fanfic recs.
>>150966078Not /co/Fuck off
>>150967751Sure, I find idea of that site a bit spergy if you look closely enough.
The generational divide really killed TVTropes. Zoomers don't seem to care about autistically cataloguing every bit of information about their favorite shows as much as millennials did. You can really tell the difference between pages written before 2020 or so and after.
>>150967925Even most of the millennial written pages are absolutely retarded. Especially shit like the "Nightmare Fuel" category.
>>150966078One time I had to go here for something on a device that didn't have an adblock and jesus christ it was so bad.>scroll a little bit down an article>huge ad right in the middle>scroll down a little again>another huge fucking ad>rinse and repeatAnd who the fuck thinks people are going to pay to use this? Someone can just make a knockoff and call it a day.
>>150966839If you have a KF page, that means you should be scorned forever and never respected according to the laws of 4chan.
Everyone knows TV Tropes ruins your life. It’s in their slogan!
>>150966078>turned thousands of aspiring writers into checkbox-ticking retards churning out uninspired slop because otherwise it "might not fit in" thus missing the point of fictionyou are making shit up
>>150966627Then why are you asking to be spoonfed when the problem is right in front of you fucktard
>>150968062It's true, though. Farmers only go after the most laughable and morally reprehensible individuals in our society. In all honesty, they're doing a public service.
>>150966078Got any alternatives?
>>150966078>turned thousands of aspiring writers into checkbox-ticking retards churning out uninspired slop because otherwise it "might not fit in" thus missing the point of fictionThe effect is the opposite where people try their hardest to avoid tropes to a point of retardation. Kinda like metal bands always trying to invent some new sub-subgenre of metal music to stand out.
>>150968138https://tropedia.fandom.com/wiki/Tropediahttps://allthetropes.org/wiki/Main_PageAll The Tropes is too strict though due to the "All edits most be approved by the mods rule" and it's a ghost town as a result.Tropedia is actually quite active but has few users and it contains all the pages that were cut due to the censorship issues. If you can stomach Fandom/wiki, it's a great alternative.
>>150968133They go after some more decent people too though who only do like one or two things "wrong". You're an idiot if you think otherwise.
>>150967925>You can really tell the difference between pages written before 2020 or so and after.provide examples
Can remember the weird arguing between Sailor Moon fansub autismos like Miss Dream (frauds) and Sailormoonfansubs (frauds but run by a 60 something schizo comparing himself to Megan Meier) on magical girl pages until Fast Eddie nuked that.
>>150967925Zoomers are based??
>>150966115But language already works that way? It's fucking hard to relate fictional concepts to people who don't share your life experience without a shared lexicon specialized for the task.
>>150968138Genuinely, is tvtropes the actual best collection of this kind of organized literary stuff as long as you stay away from the actual autistic shit? Actual narrative things are pretty useful to have
>>150968133They're gossipy, drama loving (and causing) "celebrity" obsessed faggots. KF is a participatory women's gossip magazine, like if toxic femininity were a website. Are there any straight males there? I can't imagine what would cause them to be into that kind of shit.
>>150968503Yeah, you get some women trying to clearly larp as straight men there or underageB& trying to pretend to be adults but failing miserably (Giera, who had to remake after people were catching on to her being a teenager also pretending to be half black).
>>150967925I don't think a text based site is gonna appeal to the limited attention span of the average zoomer
>>150966078>>turned thousands of aspiring writers into checkbox-ticking retards churning out uninspired slop because otherwise it "might not fit in" thus missing the point of fictionTo be fair, people leaning into tropes happened before Tv Tropes became big enough to matter, it just made it worse.The site's not super useful and everyone there has some form of autism, but I at least get some mileage out of knowing that we, the chads with SFW fetishes like inflation and pregnancy, can use TvT as a way to find more content regarding those fetishes.
I use TV Tropes so I could get brief gist of movies I don't want to waste time watching and their plot/characters so I could shitpost on /tv/ as if I know what I'm talking about.It's actually more useful than Wikipedia in that regard.
I'll only pay to use TV Tropes if they remove all the poz. I don't need to be reminded of "values dissonance" when a character in 2010 doesn't worship trannies.
>>150968133kiwifarms is a dedicated gangstalking website
>>150968435Well, to put this way, academics that analyze fictional works tend to explain items from fiction in general terms "tropes", "themes", "motifs", "archetypes", etc.Tvtropes doesn't really do that, it's lumps all the above into "tropes". Then it takes a "trope", like "badass" and splits that off in to bunch of semi related tropes with a twist!. Then we get things like "bad grandpa", "badass cutie", or "bad cripple". It comes off like a bit autistic.I think it's like that because the founder, Fast Eddie/Gus Raley is a computer programmer. He didn't think like a humanities major.
>>150968503Yeah? And? Are they doing anything illegal?
>>150969634I didn't say they were. I said they're faggots who act like the worst kind of women.
>>150968197>https://tropedia.fandom.com/wiki/TropediaI recall that being the one that Fandom decided to redirect every other TVT rip-off made by pissed-off ex-TVT users to because of all the "redundancy."
>>150968133The vast majority of KF is the exact same caliber of loser they tend to pick on, which is why the site exists to begin with.>a-at least i'm not him, lole!
>>150968435>But language already works that way?Why are you asking him that?
>>150969680>The vast majority of KF is the exact same caliber of loser they tend to pick onI can't speak for my fellow farmers, but I happen to be a fit, straight Aryan male with zero mental disorders.>>150969246"Gangstalking" does not exist.>>150968521Exceptions rather than the rule.>>150968300Nonsense, it's always for a good reason. They were never "decent" people to begin with.
>>150966096The entirety of Rick & Morty
>>150969634>Yeah? And? Are they doing anything illegal?Doxxing is illegal in some states
>>150969842null said he was iban: https://archive.fo/Z3ebd#post-1734963
I despise how Tv Tropes users justifies deleting pages for "violating" their content violation policy but pages like Made in Abyss and Cuties stay. It's a blatant display of their biases.It's also funny how they locked the Content Violations Review from being viewed by unregistered users and no longer warned pages that they are subjected to being reviewed. Quite possibly to prevent people from archiving those pages and moving the content to the fork wikis.
>>150969842You're retarded, you worship the forum version of a woman's gossip magazine ran by a brainlet who doesn't realize he's become the thing he hated along with enabling shitty people by giving them the attention they so desire.People don't deserve harassment(even if the site says it doesn't do such) just for being part of internet subgroups you personally do not like because of bad eggs within said subgroups.
>>150969921>muh woman's gossip magazineSeriously, is that all you have?Not even going to read the rest of your post. Just pathetic.
>>150969956>zero reading comprehensionYour site enabled Chris' bad behavior by giving him attention and by Null trying to help him.You hate furries and lolicons just because they exist even if they personally didn't cause any harm.You advocate for free speech on the internet and yet actively plug your ears when said free speech includes the things you don't like.You are scum, your site is scum and Null is basically Lowtax at this point.The internet will improve drastically once Null dies, either by his own hands or by some "lolcow" finally fed up with him and his site's shit.
>>150969842As much as I appreciate KF for providing proper info and discussion ,I can't help but point out how you and some of the users are getting too high up their horses for their own good.4chan and Something Awful used to be like KFs and look at what they become today. Don't think that KFs is immune to suffering from decline.
>>150969842>>150969906>>150969956>null said he was iban: https://archive.fo/Z3ebd#post-1734963null talks about having cp and encrypting it:https://archive.md/RNNPL#80%
TV Tropes still exists ?
>>150970246There's 2 threads on it.
>KFSenpai noticed!
>>150966353They are.
>>150966078Does anyone use this website unironically?
Don't worry, that sites been dying for years. Barely anyone still uses it as a checklist.
>>150967925Zoomers don't watch anything. They watch millennial video essays about things to get their opinions
>>150973574and this is why anime wonned while /co/ lostaroo
>>150972455Yes. I've found that when you're interested in obscure 00s series, TVTropes usually has more random facts about them than anywhere else on the internet. Mainly since those articles are ancient and largely untouched by the more recent community, so they were written by older autists.
>>150966078God, this shit is unusable on mobile
>>150973574>Zoomers don't watch anything.*ReadTry to make a Zoomer, let alone a alpha gen, to read a single tv tropes pageUnless its a fanfic where the character they love are raping each other they will not read anything on this planet
>>150973859wtf I love tvtropes now
>>150969842What do you think of Aisterion being on your userbase?
>>150968138>Got any alternatives?Read a fucking book. Stop observing tropes as tropes and see the story as a complete entity.
>>150972455I use to use it to find examples of my fetish in media (especially webcomics). Sadly it is no longer useful as the website hardly updates its pages.
>>150966078That's not exactly what happened. It made a bunch of midwits thinks they were actually smart because they knew a few tropes.
>>150966309Someone who wants to keep the lights on.As someone who grew up on AOLhell complete with fucking popup screamer ads, the reason we have adblock is because internet ads were fucking bullshit. You want to have some small relatively unobtrusive ads on your website? Go ahead. If they cross the line into being a pain in the ass I'll either avoid you or spend hours trying to find a workaround out of pure spite. But this shit? Meh.
>>150966078TV Tropes is a fan site, not a cookbook. That's the thing amateur artists need to understand about the website.
>>150968499Yes, this is common for niche wikis. Rationalwiki was a fantastic knowledge source on fake science/snake oil stuff until it became insufferably liberal.
>>150966078What I hate the most is that their page for Jim Broadbent had a link to their "Ha Ha You Said X" in the name of the town he was born in, Holton "cum" Beckering. It was removed recently. Fucking buzzkills.
>>150976983This. No, you shouldn't use this as basis for literary criticism, nor for how to write. But if you're sitting there going "hmm, how common ARE 'evil trio' villains" this is where you look.>>150977001>Reality's liberal bias strikes again
>>150977145>>Reality's liberal bias strikes again>Source: my ass
Still the best website on the internet. The amount of articles in the YMMV sections determines if it's something people actually care about or if it's shilled crap.
>>150977221Actually my source is reality.
>>150977282I'm a conservative and my source is reality
>>150976983I just find it funny people think, "With this collective knowledge of autistic nerds, I write my work of fiction!"yeah, creative writing doesn't work like that.
>>150966309What's funny is that it's not too hard to bypass their block/ban with content blocking. I spent some time experimenting around with it last night, kek.