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First look at Absolute Zatanna
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>>150978912
>not hot
Whats the point?
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Absolute Trash
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>>150978924
>>150978933
You are retards
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>>150978912
>evil Zatana wears her fishnet leggings upside down
BRAVO NOLAN
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>>150978912
Awful
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>>150978924
>too much of a fag
What's the point?
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>>150979014
No matter how ugly and unrecognizable a character becomes their will always be some fag on /co there to defend it.
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Absolute Cringe
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>>150979040
Genuinely tell me what's wrong with that?
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>>150979014
Are you kidding me, she looks like a lesbian
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>>150979071
She's skinny
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>>150979057
Just the simple fact that's unrecognizable as Zatanna.
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>>150979095
K
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>>150978912
Nice tits
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>>150978924
It is a design that favors the female gaze admittedly, but at least it looks cool. Men prefer more exposed skin. She could show off her legs more, or accentuate her female figure more with lines, tighter clothing, or slits. But honestly, I say just let the lesbians have this one. They deserve to goon too
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>>150978957
I'm not the one spending money on garbage
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>>150979387
I just told the truth
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>>150979095
Nigga is absolute Harley Quinn recognizable as Harley Quinn?
What about Martian Manhunter?
Or Doctor Poison?
Or the Joker?
Or Gorilla Grodd?

The designs are changed, that's the whole fucking point.
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>>150978912
>regular Zatanna
>fishnet stockings

>Absolute Zatanna
>Fishnet top
BRAVO
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>>150978912
I just want to finally see Absolute Cheetah and see if we finally get a good Cheetah design
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>>150978912
Not a fan, but whatever, I don't really read the more recent comics anyways
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>>150978912
Coolio. Hopefully she will have an evil dad this time.
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>>150979387
Who said anything about spending money?
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>>150979427
Yeah but there's always at least some kernel of the original baked in. None of Zatanna's usual stage magician motifs are here, you could mistake her for any other magic user in comics.
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>>150979374
Gays should never be catered to.
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>>150979095
Just because it's unrecognizable doesn't mean it's bad
It's a Show Teen Titans Jinx and Comic Jinx type of situation
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>>150979545
Teen Titans Jinx was a case of trading one unique design for another, Absolute Zatanna just looks like a generic goth bitch with magic powers.
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>>150979505
Zatanna very frequently doesn't dress like a stereotypical magician.
And this Zatanna does look like the magician Chris Angel. So there's that.

Plus how do we know if she's even a magician? She could just be magic.
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>>150979505
>Yeah but there's always at least some kernel of the original baked in.
gonna have to disagree because of Grodd. the only quality the Absolute version shares with the original is they're both chimps. other than that, there's literally nothing that visually connects the two.

i'll agree that she doesn't look much like Zatanna, but she's definitely not the first case of a character that visually looks almost nothing like their original. her design's on the same tier as Mirror Master imo in terms of how similar they look to their original counterpart, with Grodd being worse than them

honestly, writing this out now, Flash's villans are probably the worst offenders on characters that look nothing like their original counterpart. which would be fine, if they at least looked cool too, but they all look lame as hell
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>>150980385
Neither Grodd is a chimpanzee. Gorilla Grodd is obviously a gorilla (ape), while Absolute Grodd is a monkey. They are entirely different species.
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>>150978912
generic goth/alt girl who's magic
>Whoopee

Honestly a girl actually having a super hero outfit is somehow more unique now in super hero comics than the street wear costumes.
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>>150980579
She could lead the Birds of Prey
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>>150980654
Damn she does look a bit like that one new Black canary design these people aren't even original. Which is sad as urban/street wear has a lot of great fashion approaches you can go with it, and make it not the same generic stuff every time
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>>150980706
I think she looks just fine personally. To me she looks like a street gothamite, like somebody who might have run with Absolute HQ. But this is a design we're seeing presumably where she's just been released from an underground max security prison. We don't know where she's been or how she might change. I'm not coping because I don't have an issue with it, but I do anticipate that Diana will TNJ her and that may come with a costume change.
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>>150978912
Complete trash. Not cool or hot.
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>>150980784
I got to disagree purely because it's basic anon, like I appreciate positivity and giving a chance especially here on 4chan. But I will say problem to me is nothing about this besides her name makes the design appealing or memorable and design philosophy is real. Perfect example was remember the absolute run got shit on a lot but most of the interest and thing that got people to check it out was 100% batman's weird design and new vibe and people interested in WW new design queue as well. It's like the saying don't judge a book by it's cover but realistically we all do it. If a comic looks boring no one will buy it.

Imagine you see this in a comic shop or online market place (more likely now) and no title just that image. Would you be real with yourself buy it or even give it a second glance?
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>>150978912
As an alternate universe, I don't hate it. Fishnet top vs fishnet leggings is a decent touch.
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>>150980931
>Would you be real with yourself buy it or even give it a second glance?

if you intentionally remove the popular super hero logo from the cover you're intentionally being obstinate.
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>>150980922
>hot
Yes
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>>150980931
Considering the fact that I already like Zatanna, yes I'd pick up such a book as long as her name was on it. But based on the design alone? No I wouldn't. So you've got a prescient point there.

Zatanna here is not presented as a primary selling point, though. She's a prospective villain in Absolute Wonder Woman. I am looking forward to Z presenting as an effective foil to Absolute WW, and the crust punk to Hell Amazon warrior princess is an interesting dichotomy.

My one hang up on this book has been that Diana meets her victories with great ease. I have been looking forward to a conflict where she just can't deal, and I reasonably anticipate that this will be the one. I doubt it will disappoint, but maybe it will. I think this conflict will deliver.
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Fuck, that design is terrible.
Although I would expect nothing less from the Absolute books.
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>>150980987
I mean my point is also still kind of made, as if to sell this design it needs to be attached to a big name then it's a flop. My point isn't about if it's good just outfit being generic and not truly iconic or eye catching and doesn't read as zatanna or interesting.
>>150981085
Well yeah then that would do it

Also I know very little of the absolute verse, though zatanna v WW sounds interesting but I'm only going off design as said above. I knew nothing about this, just saying it's not an interesting design to me.

Ah that does suck, really shocked with how much hype I see for absolute Wonder woman. Thought run must be pretty well done, also to be fair I don't think some alt goth bitch is gonna compete with a woman that lived in hell and fought demons for how ever long she did. It's like putting doom slayer vs an emo satanist. But it is zatanna so she might give her a run for her money with her weird magic prowess though who knows heard absolute vs isn't always as it seems they might kill zatanna off to reveal a even bigger bad
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XES
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>>150978912
>>150978912
>>150978912
What the fuck is this design?? This is ass.
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>>150980579
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>>150979095
>>150979374
>>150979441

Sooo I guess no one actually read Absolute WW. Zatanna is supposed to be a prisoner forced to fight Diana. Basically Task Force Z. Why the fuck would she be dressed like a supe? Maybe her design will change into something recognizable if she becomes a good guy.
As it is, this is the most inoffensive change (no dyed hair, no half shave) possible and you still manage to find something to bitch about
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>>150979095
That guy was saying she wasn't hot. I can tell good and well she doesn't look like Zatanna. And on that note, who gives a shit? Did you expect her to have a tophat and a suit jacket? Get real.
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>>150981339
We have yet to see what Absolute Z's magic is like, but I am hoping it will be her usual logomancy. Absolute Diana has a magic which is clearly based on irl magical religions, primarily wicca. I am looking forward to something interesting, and I will be disappointed if it does not deliver a high-stakes conflict.
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>>150979374
>Leabians want their women to be less sexy
No wonder their relationships are the most dysfunctional
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>>150981690
I'd hope they'd give her, her most iconic ability but who knows the absolute verse is very reverse at times.

Didn't think of that for diana kind of a interesting take just knew she wasn't a basic amazon anymore. Though kind of interesting to make her more well "magic" diane was always more greek hero type. Where it's kind of weird how they'll use magical items and monster blood and flesh for weapons or clothes, but using actual magic is seen as evil/cowardly. So her knowing some magic will be interesting

I heard the verse is good so hopefully won't be disappointing, I've kind of been waiting to see might finally be time to jump in didn't realize it'd last this long though
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>>150981837
Absolute Wonder Woman is worth reading from the start. I've been reading all the Absolute books, and WW, Martian Manhunter, and Green Lantern are probably the most original, though GL has been a bit boring while WW has been quite thrilling. MM is sort of channeling Grant Morrison, and it has some great psychedelic art.

AWW has perfectly serviceable comic art but excels through Sherman's creative and dynamic paneling and page layouts. If you care for that kind of thing, it's great.

As I mentioned, AWW I think suffers from Diana being such a perfect hero as protagonist; but I am holding out; and in fact this latest "filler" issue I think indicates that she will face consequences for the sacrifices demanded of her magic.

There was an interim arc beautifully illustrated by Mattia de Iulis which had her pledge a portion of each of her years to Hades ala Persephone which ought to come back to bite her if Thompson follows her established threads.

So Diana has this established paradigm of magic in exchange for sacrifice, while the Zatanna we know can just magic things up by speaking it backwards. Absolute Diana has been presented as a hero immaculate even in spite of difficulties or flaws. They have set it up well and I'm looking forward to it. It looks like they will not encounter yet though, until a few more months.
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reply to my post
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>>150979525
it's amazing how you can make literally anything look like a conspiracy by just implying basic facts of life were actually coordinated and planned by shadowy cabals
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>>150982512
It's utterly mundane how you can ignore anything



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