How and why did we reach this point where "lots of ugly busy shit flying everywhere" is considered the standard for good animation
>>150985607blame anime
>>150985614I blame smartphones
>>150985607>noooo stop animating shit!! my autism can't handle it>where is the epic smart dialogue? i can cant handle this visual stimulation in a visual medium!!!!!!kill yourself tranny
>>150985614No I'll blame you instead
>>150985614I blame stupid niggers not understanding what made anime animation so good. They'll see two character frames and hundred lighting effects spammed and call it peak animation.
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>>150985607Looks like it will be really good when it's finished though. There are lots of forms of good animation, including much more fluid and interesting character animation. But what looks cool looks cool ya weirdo
>>150985706Cope, soulless fag
>>150985607anime>>150985614fbpb
>>150985781
Is it just me or is /co/ extra intolerable tonight?
>>150985799Good game
>>150985829How quickly you gave your zoomer ADHD away
>>150985815It is the weekend after all
>>150985889Mah, just complimented your gameplay and the game itself
>>150985607>waiter, can i have animation without actual animation please?this is why the west will never beat the japs
>>150985954>he doesn’t knowsomeone post the MHA gif or the JJK oneor any of them really
>>150986581i've see all of them general audiences seem to like it, why can western animation do the same?
>>150985614/thread
>>150985607I blame Jujutsu Kaisen to the fullest for convincing the masses that not being able to tell what's going on is cool.
>>150986628General audiences shit on those scenes, what are you talking about? If you think popular means the audience loves every part of the show including the adhd animation, then you’re retarded. They just think the show is good enough for it to not matter. The reason things are animated like this is because it’s cheap. That’s it. Dragging of particles across the screen and throwing in a bunch of lens flares and flashing lights is the animation equivalent of padding your essay with extra spaces, larger periods, and unrelated sentences. The actual content is obfuscated by jingling keys that make it difficult to understand what supposed to be happening behind it all.
>>150987450>General audiences shit on those scenes, what are you talking about?>If you think popular means the audience loves every part of the show including the adhd animation, then you’re retarded.Or you're just an autistic retard mad that no one cares about your retarded opinionThe flashy animation is the only reason why these shows are popular and liked in the first placeUnless you think the millions of dollars demon slayer made was because people like the plot and characters lmaoI'm sure the reason why every fucking normie you hear talking about the new jujitsu kaisen is totally doing it for the subtle motions of character animation and not because of how cool the huge spectacle fights are going to look>The reason things are animated like this is because it’s cheap.Yet it looks better then any western made animationAlso, not as cheep as the 3/4 view rig animation you see in western garbage that can't be bothered to use two point perspective when framing a scene >Dragging of particles across the screen and throwing in a bunch of lens flares and flashing lights is the animation equivalent of padding your essay with extra spaces, larger periods, and unrelated sentences. The actual content is obfuscated by jingling keys that make it difficult to understand what supposed to be happening behind it all.And normies eat that shit up, they love the hype and aura it hasYou just can't understand what's happening because you're too autistic and can't focusNo wonder every western made show is looks like some shit that's filmed in front of a live studio audience where they rarely change perspective
>>150985607>>150987240This shit sucks. 90s anime was goated.
>>150985645>modern breakthroughs in Neuropsychiatry and pharmaceutical research has lead to more accurate and widespread diagnoses and treatment of mental disorders than in an era when the very notion of meds were treated like a jokebig surprise very much a shocker.
>>150990248Shalom rabbi
>>150985614>>150985607Did you pay any money for more slow paced, clearer animation?No?Well then you reap what you sow, which is nothing.
>>150985607>steal from company>expect them to give you nice things to steal Entitled boomers is the problem
>>150987240>not being able to tell what's going onSkill issue.
>>150990303Stfu, corpocuck
>>150990300>>150990303What the fuck are you talking about
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>>150987240>>150991306>no choreography whatsoever>things just happen because... it "goes hard" or whatever>every bright visual just happens because "it looks cool" which comes across as overindulgent and cluttered>entire scenes that exist to just be "tiktok'd" or whatever with mumblenigger playboy carti blasting at full volumeI knew shonen nowadays was bad but holy shit, are zoomer attention spans really that fried?
>>150991929Anon, you’re talking about a generation that doesn’t know how to read outside of whole words. They’re more retarded than you can even fathom.
>>150985614Precisely, Mob Psycho 100/One Punch Man for this type of animation.
>>150992237I don't know, Mob actually has a use for it which is one of the common complains (like >>150991929 says) because it's more about demonstrating the turmoil of shyness and puberty and the mystical world than it is about flashy fightsNot sure how often it happens in OPM but the one example I remember is from the S1 finale where it's also used for comedic effect, since Boros does all these crazy anime fight things and then Saitama just blows him away with a punch, I feel like in neither case "whoa crazy animation" is the point in itself
>>150991306I wonder how Oda felt about this, I feel like he envisioned it more like a Popeye scene
>>150985701this.
>>150991929It's just easier to do "actiony" sequences nowadays that way due to the way production pipelines are set up in the industry. Like you're not really going to have to be able to get lots of time and the right people to do corrections on these drawings so if you go all out with the flashy "purposefully chaotic" look you can do something that looks cool faster and easier.
>>150985607
so should animation be family guyand flinstone flat composition and barly any movement
>>150993541Resorting to false dilemmas is usually a clear sign you're objectively in the wrong
>>150992237Nah, fuck that, MP100 has great animation in general beyond gay ass skooger memes.
>>150985706Holeeeeee shiiiit my dopamine receptors are going off the charts.
>>150994336>multiple perspective and shot changes and film quality for one scene where characters are just walkingso why can't western 2D animation pull this off?
>>150985607reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiHcNQLqtHs
>>150994553Scavenger Reign was pretty good
>>150994553no budget :(
>>150985607The death of nuance and restraint, leading to the mentality that "more=better"
>>150985614This but unironically
>>150985607I wish we have animation.
>>150987240This is giving me a headache...
>>150985607>>150992237>>150985614Sakuga-tard here who's actually in the scene. Blame the dominance of Yutaka Nakamura after his Boros fight.The moment that fight dropped, the visual language that a lot of the newer (mostly webgen) action animators have taken up got completely overwritten.
>>151003598so you’re saying there’s a chance things will get better when retards stop chasing trends?
>>150985607When sakuga became a self-conscious circlejerk contest with its own checklist of tricks, rather than just the occasional flex from a particularly competent animator.
>>150985614blame canada
