What are your thoughts on cartoon censorship?
Bad no matter the context, no exceptions, even if said thing personally offends me.
>>150994442It's objectively bad. At most they should announce potentially contentious content before the cartoon starts. Whether to see or not see something should be up to the viewer or their parent or guardian if underage. The government should never directly or indirectly control what information or art the citizens can access unless it's directly dangerous (sensitive military secrets, for example).
>>150994442I think it's okay for age ratings to exist and for studios to produce content with those age ratings in mind. I don't think it's ever okay to censor or ban anything rated for adults, because at that point the government is treating adults like children and deciding there are things they shouldn't be allowed to see.
Censorship is great as long it affects my political rivals. Censorship is bad when it affects me and my side of the culture wars.
>>150994684This>>150995047at least you're honest about it
>>150994442>Robert Taylor may kiss Garbo in a feature picture...Garbo? Is that an actual person's name?
>>150994684Yeah, we're heading to a point where children who shouldn't even be near the co sumed media are being treated as the standard. Where adults have to babify their language, censor just about every violent thing, and make no mention of anything politically relevant just to make it on one person's for you page.
>>150995251Come the fuck on Anon, you've heard of Greta Garbo.
>>150994484Fippy bippy, just don't watch something if you don't have a spine.
>>150995251YesRead a bookAs for the matter at hand, to an extent guidelines like the Hays code did to some degree maintain a level of good tasteThis doesn't happen so much with cartoons but with other genres since the Code was retired there's been a lot more sleaze and rubbish shat out. It would be irresponsible to say that's the only reason, lower costs of production, the decline of the studio system and more availability has lead to a lot more shit as wellI feel somewhat the pros outweigh the cons and it’s important as the customer to demand better of movies and not watch sleaze (legally), but I do see the benefits of the code
>>150994484Bravo, Anon, bravo.
>>150995364>Read a bookGiven that she's an actress apparently, wouldn't "Watch a film" be more appropriate?Speaking of which, what should I watch that she was in?
>>150994484I'm okay with an edited version of the cartoon for TV so the kids aren't traumatized. So long as the uncensored version is out there for purchase somewhere.
>>150995408>Given that she's an actress apparently, wouldn't "Watch a film" be more appropriate?Listen here wiseass
>>150994442>We cannot forget that while the cartoon today is excellent entertainment for young and old, it is primarily the picture fare of children>January 18, 1939, Looney Tunes producerSo all those people who keep saying>Walt Disney singlehandedly made animation perceived as something for kids with his featuresWere actually completely wrong? Unless you wanna sit here and tell me that Snow White being released like a year earlier changed the public perception so badly that even WB was in on the "it's for kids" thing, there's really no leg to stand on arguing that kids haven't been the target audience of animation for nearly 100 years.
>>150995498>>Walt Disney singlehandedly made animation perceived as something for kids with his featuresI don't think I've seen anyone actually claim that in years, if anything I see most people defend Disney's original vision of trying to make animation an adult art form. The general consensus nowadays is that animation's perception kind of went back and forth between something for "kids" and "everyone" until the 1950s when it started to be seen more and more as just for kids, with the 1970s being the final nail in the coffin in spite of a few arthouse adult animated films that came out then.
>>150995251Look, Smithers! Garbo is coming!
>>150994442against
>>150994442Cringe:>everything should be censored!Based:>everything should be uncensored!Dangerously Based:>everything should be categorized into age ranges and actually enforced, so adults can do whatever they want and kids are kept out of it!That said, I wish there was an easy way to keep kids out of adult spaces, but there's just no middle ground, it's either:>submit your personal info, credit card info, and/or a selfie to access adult spaces, and just trust they wont do anything nefarious with that info, like selling it, or keeping it when they say they don't store it, or putting it somewhere unsafe that just gets hacked>the website itself has to pay the fees to run the age checks, and most sites don't want toor>lol just type in your birth year, we trust you>>150995047Centrist here:>Left censors everything they don't like, either directly by choosing not to air "bad news", or by lying by omission (Biden's health is a big magnet for this). If anyone on the left does something bad, it's instantly deflected, memoryholed (the Afghan war, the fuckin' 9/11 war. You know, "nvr 4get o7", that one? We left shitloads of stuff there too, most not even disabled before we left. I bet you didn't know that), or reduced to a nothingburger by censoring all the details, sometimes even making shit up (editing riot sounds to sped-up J6 footage)
>>150996568sounds like censorship is in safe hands with the right in charge
>>150996568>I wish there was an easy way to keep kids out of adult spacesOn the internet I presume, since irl there obviously is. Easily remedied by not giving kids their own smartphones or laptops until they're in their teens. Because let's be realistic, everyone here was looking at stuff they shouldn't have before they were 18. I think 13's not a bad age to say you're basically allowed access to everything 18+ as long as you keep it to yourself.
Make whatever you want but when you lie about sex to children and try to persuade them to castrate themselves don't be surprised if people want to stop you.
>>150996657Better than the left, anyway.Trying to follow the news during the Biden era was painful as shit, everything was reworded, rewritten or outright gone.>>150996940Yeah, ideally the parents would limit or block kids from the internet, but that's not something anyone can control, outside of maybe PSA ads, and that probably wouldn't do a lot either.Brainstorming "realistic" methods mostly comes up with nothing, too, I think the most feasible idea I had would be if govt IDs had an "internet access code" on them, some short, encrypted code that can be decrypted to reveal your birthday and state/province that you got the ID in.Then maybe it's encrypted a second time?>go to Pornhub>site immediately interrupts you, asks for your IAC and some 4-6 digit PIN you picked at the DMV>PIN decrypts the IAC partially>partially decrypted IAC goes to Pornhub and gets decrypted the rest of the way via some adult authentication code check built into the site>lets you in unless you've been flagged for giving out your IAC to kids or somethingVersus:>go to PH as a minor>interrupted by the IAC check>type in your parents' IAC and a guessed PIN>PIN doesn't decrypt it properly>PH checker just gets garbled trash>rejectedPlus, if you ever lost your IAC or it gets decrypted by some bad guys, all they'd get is your birth year and your state/province/prefecture, whatever. As long as you're not sharing the PIN between your internet access code and your credit card, it'd be fine
>>150997947Why not just create parental search filters with passwords and the ability to whitelist or blacklist certain sights
>>150994442I pirate cartoons so im owed nothing
>>150997314>peopleYou misspelled "Schizos"
Dad here. Comics and cartoons don't censor the right things. I'd rather have a French or Japanese cartoon with nudity but that have an upbeat message rather than an American cartoon that glorifies cruelty and nihilism. Helluva Boss and Big Mouth somehow made it onto cable but I don't want my kids watching them. For that matter, I don't want them watching South Park or Family Guy.
>>150998965Yer a huge fag
>>150998629Cope, axewound
>>150998965>a dad that actually keeps track of what his kids watchYou're ahead of the curve just purely for that. And you have literal decades of cartoons to pick from, so there's no need for them ever to watch modern edgy garbage.
>>150998965>>150999082How about actually raising your child instead of the TV, but hey, you are americans i get it
>>150999100Hey, raising a TV is hard work, I keep watering mine and it hasn't grown at all. I don't know how people get those 70 inch ones.
>>150999145Funny, but you are still a fag
>>150995047/thread
>>150998567That's already a thing and parents don't do it.
>>150999100>letting your kids watch cartoons is "letting the TV raise them"
>>150999433No, i meant that thinking edhy shit is going to change your son is a faggy opinion
>>150994442I'd pork Petunia
>>150994484/thread.Censorship is never good and never done for anyone's good. S&P departments and dickless busybodies justifying being overpaid to ruin other people's work should be exiled from the industry. Every industry.
>>150999100It's either being homeless or the kids being brainwashed.You can only pick one in this economy and you can't stop it because even the school is in on it too.
>>150994484>>150994442Sometimes censorship is actually someone intelligent reigning in a retarded director
>>151001185Retarded Directors should be allowed to fail or succeed on their own merit.
>>150994484Wrongit’s Me Speech not Free Speech.Get it right.
>>150999464You are actually retarded. Media is the number one thing that influences children's minds, ahead of even parents and peers. There's been studies done on this shit. It's also kind of obvious.
>>150994442I want what they have~
>>150999315> That's already a thing and parents don't do it.And you need to have them held accountable
>>151001622Stfu
>>150994442>h*nd-h*lding
>>151002819Yep, all that's required is someone in an official capacity to stand up and tell parents that shit's on them, their kids are their responsibility not the government's. But they won't because it's an opportunity for them to instead use parents' concern for their kids to exert control over the population.
>>150994484>>150995302>>151001038Nice virtue signal. Now tell us every reason why it's a lie.
>>150994442It's terrible to be honest.
It's bad
