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New official clips got posted
https://x.com/HellaversePrime/status/1982129994307366933
https://x.com/HellaversePrime/status/1982175375938429257
EMILY IS A CUTE
CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE
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All I care about is how they're going to take a good character concept in Abel and completely ruin him.
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>>150996094
Just gonna say that the plot of this show suck cock and the only reason why im watching it is because of adam
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>>150996287
Why the fuck do they look like that?
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>>150996662
Not gonna say spoilers, but you’ll get some more soon..
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>>150996876
Schizo Adam lives on.
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>>150996975
Yeah, there’s that.

Honestly, though, I felt they wasted Adam.

VP could really have discussed two sides of Justice and punishment, but she wanted to make a SatAM cartoon villain.
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>>150996867
You didn't watch the Family Guy Halloween special yet?
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>>150997085
I don’t watch much of anything because of schoolwork and depression.

I watched the first season of Hazbin a month ago high and drunk with some friends, and that was the last tv I watched.
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>>150996411
Cain is more interesting imo.
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>them bedroom eyes
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>>150996094
Trash.
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>no Adam

IT'S TRASH
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>>150997117
He’s at the end of the episode.
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i still hate emily for being such a stupid bitch who call rapists and murderers in hell "innocent people"
she's literally worse than charlie by far
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>>150996094
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>>150996287
HOLY CRAP
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>>150996094
How long till Emily cucks vaggie
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>>150997085
Is that screenshot from it? Think I'd hear about them parodying Hazbin.
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>>150997188
Charlie x Emily is even more boring than Chaggie because they literally have the exact same personality and motivations. You could clone just charlie and have her fuck herself at that point.
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>>150997188
Not soon enough
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>>150997156
At least she doesn’t act as infantile as Charlie.
That shit genuinely pissed me off.
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>>150997240
>You could clone just charlie and have her fuck herself at that point.
Selfcest chads stay winning
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>>150997233
>Think
Don't. You're not good at it.
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>>150997240
>You could clone just charlie and have her fuck herself at that point
And somehow that doesn't sound even half as boring as chaggie
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THICC ANGEL
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>>150997421
It was there for a split second but my eyes locked onto it immediately.
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>>150997421
bet she could fit a human male's whole head in her butt
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>>150997459
That's Lute.
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>>150997188
Never because cucking is wrong and Emily is a good girl.
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>>150997421
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>>150997113
Viv needs to grow a pair and kill off Vagina so Emily and Charlie can get together.
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>>150997421
She's got a whole damn bakery tucked under her skirt
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>>150997106
using abel as anything other than a prop for cain is a pure win, personally
focusing on what happens to cain as the first murderer is almost a cliche whereas almost no one talks about what its like to be the first murder victim
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>>150997522
Nah, no more lesbo shit. Viv isn't interested in it, and to be quite frank, neither am I.
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>>150997548
im very much interested in cain since he's technically the first "sinner" and likely the first human soul to end up in hell
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>>150996287
Anon, for love of God it's this real or not?
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>>150997570
>Nah, no more lesbo shit
Dykes used to be hot before they became mainstream
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>>150997481
>>150997421
They have fat butts in Hazbin!Heaven
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>>150997843
It's AI
>receptionist is folding towels for some reason
>guy next to her is just a floating head
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>>150997967
Emily, that's your sister!
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wdyd?
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Emily!
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>>150997570
You didn’t hear about the leak, did you?
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>>150998395
Which leak? The TikTok one that featured the Chaggie song, which was probably the most sexless thing I've ever watched?
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>>150998409
Yeah, that one. I just didn’t know if you did. My bad if I sounded sarcastic.

But there’s still lesbian stuff. Even if it sauceless and dry as fuck.
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i want to ABUSE and BREAK emily!
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>>150998321
That raises some interesting new ideas for succubus lore.
>Succubi extract the sins from their victims through sex. For demons more sins = more power.
>This also kills the victim, but they die with a clean slate and go straight to heaven.
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>>150998323
Why is she so silly?
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>>150998494
This is sin
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>>150996094
They ruined the best design in the series
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>>150996094
So Pentious is getting that sweet sweet Emily sugar and Cherri is jealous.
I can dig this.
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>>150999060
Nothing goes better with some sugar and cream than a cherry
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>>150998321
Give the biggest fuck you to the two Ls I could give
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How would Emily handle a redeemed Carl from ATHF?
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>>150996867
AI slop
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>>150997101
>>150997233
You people are so dumb
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>check it out butthead, this hotel is full of hot chicks mmheh
>let's go get "rehabilitated" uh huh huh huh
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>>150999343
Dumb because I don’t know the context, or…?
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I wanna fuck this thing
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>>150999390
Better hope it's a woman with DFC.
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>>150999343
This AI shit getting outta hand
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>>150998321
>Verbalase POV
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>>150999409
I hope he's got a nice feminine penis
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>>150997240
It's more interesting because it creates an interesting relationship dynamic between the three of them.
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she's got that crazy look in her eyes
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>>150996094
Awesome!
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>>150999343
Rude
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>>150997614
I'm interested in Abel in this context because I want the inaccuracies they made with Adam that even a grade schooler could spot to be addressed, and would like to see how a deliberately inept bureaucracy like Vivziepop's heaven would keep a goody two-shoes overachiever like Abel out of sight and mind.

And also because I'm a Fire Emblem fan.
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>>151002704
That’d be great.
If Hazbin was well written.
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>>151002818
Maybe stop talking about things that aren't good and I won't be forced to watch bad shows. Everything /co/ talks about is shows that stopped being good long ago, or shows that just aren't good enough to pacify the voices in my head. Vivziepop in general is annoying because I don't like any of the musical numbers, which sucks when it's primarily a musical made by theater kids.
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>>150997614
Who do you think should voice him then.

Personal idea is Terrance Zdunich - Mr. "REPO! The genetic opera" guy. He also did a small album involving Cain.

He even looks like he could play Cain
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>>151003139
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>>150996094
So she's getting corrupted right? Seems redundant to have the only 2 seraphim that matter come to the same perspective.
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>>151002818
posting this every thread won't make you smarter or unwaste your time
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>>150999291
>redeemed
>implying he did anything wrong
Carl is unironically an improvement to most Hazbin demons.
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>>151003193
No, shut up
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>>151002016
God I fucking love the colour design in this episode
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>>151003556
Leak spoilers:
Can you imagine how lame it would be to have Emily be trapped in Hell this season but nothing negative happens to her?
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>>151003778
The trailer shows Emily and Sera returning to Hell at what is undoubtedly a later date, so I doubt that lasts long
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>>151003790
Then I dont know how they could contrive more conflict if hell and heaven are cool with each other
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>>151003910
Vox is gonna rape Angel
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New Cain Fanfic chapter:

archiveofourown...org/works/67189699/chapters/190356101
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>>151004451
Go back to /trash/
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>>151004525
Alright
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>>150997188
Not soon enough.
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>>151004724
Same. At least Charlie knows the sinners are not innocent but Emily unironically believes they dindu nuttin.
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>>151004777
Charlie has lived in Hell, and that's the only difference. She has direct experience with sinners. And she's still both naive and stupid to a fault.
Emily is even more naive, but she is not stupider than Charlie, she simply has no experience with sinners.
They are both naive idiots, one is just way more sheltered while the other has no excuse for her stupidity.
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>>151004859
You hate her that. I hate her because in the leaks she couldn't give a rat's ass about Adam's death and the exorcists' loss even though she's the one who allowed them to go out there. I hate that she cares more about demons than her own soldiers.[/spoilers]
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>>151004724
The Pentious thing just rubs me wrong because it shows a fundamental disregard for the entire premise.
I remember when the pilot aired and everyone was of the opinion he had been some kind of weapons engineer if not war profiteer himself. Someone complacent in a system that cost thousands of lives.
Instead, he's tied to... Jack the Ripper? The same Jack the Ripper who was largely never caught because there were so many conflicting suspects and accounts of him with everyone falling into paranoia? That fucking Jack the Ripper?
It feels like they took the least interesting route possible specifically to make him as already redeemable as possible without any real regard for giving him an interesting arc.
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https://x.com/HellaversePrime/status/1982479325355188679
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>>151004933
Its seriously messed up. Lets combine all information with the leaks...

Hell wanted to declare War on Heaven and Lilith organized this. Sera approved of the exterminations led by Adam because Hell truly wanted to destroy angels and good souls. Now that the exterminations are stopped and angels got killed in action? Sera is now acting Charlie's agenda is right and still permits Lilith to remain in Heaven while not caring about the destruction of Adam's soul and the angels who were killed by cannibals and their soul corpses being eaten.

Sera is shit. And this entire writing quality is simply abysmal.
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>>151002884
Don’t get mad at me, I don’t watch Hazbin. I’m a Love Death and Robots fan.
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>>151004724
>>151004777
>>151004859
Lol retard was so ashamed of his bad taste that he deleted all his comments
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>>150996094
Did Pent hook up with cherri before getting killed?
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>>151005111
He does that a lot.
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>>151005106
Two things:
1. Wasn’t he bombing people in hell?
2. If he’s innocent, who the fuck is causing “good” people to go to hell?
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>>151005106
>>151005134
Okay so you all need to understand probably the worst facet of Vivzie's writing. She loves drama, she loves angst, she loves emotional conflicts leading the story. Yet it all comes at a simple caveat, she's too attached to her characters and too afraid of the audience not liking them to let anything stick or have any real weight that puts them in a condemnable position for long. So she builds up tension and drama only to immediately start hacking it down with a machete by deliberately fast tracking us to forgiveness, she does this in one of three ways.
>Stolas method: "Actually, here are a fuck ton of flashbacks designed to show character wasn't nearly as bad as you thought and that arc you thought he was gonna go through never needed to happen because he dindu nuffin."
>Blitzø method: Just as character starts feeling the emotional weight, the show itself puppets the other characters to run around insisting upon what a great person they are and fast tracks the other characters to forgiving them ASAP
It's always gonna be a variation of one of these two. And the end result is that you're left with "complex" characters who aren't sympathetic enough to like as the heroes but are nowhere near as compelling as the show makes them out to be.
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>>151005214
Wait, you said three methods. What’s the third method?
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>>150997113
She wants the two dicks
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>>151005311
Both in the ass
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>>151005317
Of course

She has to stay pure for marriage
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>>151005109
>Love, Death and Robots
Damn, that's even worse. I jest. Season 1 had some good stories in there but boy did it degrade hard during Season 2.
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>>151005487
At least we had a good Season 1.
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>>151005214
Also, another question.
How does this apply to characters like Lucifer, Alastor, or Adam?
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>>151005109
Never heard of it. Not likely to look it up, I only want to watch stuff that gets porn doujins.
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>>151005786
It’s an animated anthology series on Netflix. Not a musical, but can be a comedy sometimes. I love “The Witness” episode.
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>>151005251
I was gonna say angel dust but realized it's more or less just variation of Blitzo
>>151005669
Okay, let's talk Alastor because he is objectively no if-ands-or-buts a serial killer. Yet you can very easily spin this because the show presents it more as macabre charm than anything he has to answer for. Gloss past it, he doesn't want redemption because he very much enjoys hell and soon only all the genuinely bad people will be down there.
Lucifer already is in "didn't do anything super bad" territory beyond simply giving in to the powers that be.
Adam is a villain and Vivzie seems to get pretty interesting characters with her villains because she's not bound to the same rules.
Let me put it this way. Moxxie and Millie. Big abortion arc next season, right?
But you can simply follow a single 'rule' Vivzie refuses to break.
>Moxxie and Millie must be wholesome and adorkable
It's gonna be some kind of misunderstanding and Moxxie is gonna be hurt Millie didn't trust him, but she was more afraid of hurting him when he was so excited to be a dad and wanted to pass it as miscarriage. Or Moxxie is ultimately gonna come around just in time to be with her in the clinic.
Calling it, put it on fucking Kalshi. It will follow the general trajectory of trying to look weighty while being unwilling to risk putting either in condemnation.
In general, just take the details you know about upcoming plotlines and think to what softens the blow and you're gonna be able to predict the trajectory of the writing in either series.
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>>151005077
>fanfics and fancomics surpassed the og show...
welp, at least adam will not suffer directly anymore in this shit show and our only hope is eve being an actual threat or everyone suffering from the side effects of seeing adam in dreams or hallucinations.
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>>151005882
Actually, I take back what I said about Lucifer because given certain leaks and what we know Roo literally just does this for Lucifer at the last possible second to absolve him of accidentally creating evil when he gave free will
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>>151005882
Spoilers but im gonna say it anyways because S2 is right around the corner, Alastor is a coward for making a deal with Rosie when he was human in order to avoid being prey in Hell and instead get a shortcut to power he never earned, he enjoys Hell only when he's at an advantage and can act with impunity, otherwise he's selfish sadist who want to dish out pain on others while getting angry when he's on the receiving end of the stick.
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>>151005842
Watching the first episode.
>anthology
>realistic CGI
>not fucking anime
I'm looking for shit that will get porn. Vivziepop gets porn. SMG4 shows get porn. Adventure Time gets porn. This won't.
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>>151005979
Quality comes and goes.
But it’s not what I’d call “shit that will get porn.”.
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>>151006019
Then rec stuff that's good and gets porn. Or I'm going to bitch again about how /co/ won't let me enjoy Steven Universe, Star Vs and She-Ra because they're not straight, white and male enough for the hivemind's liking.
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>>151005952
As much as I thought VP would make Lucifer complex, she really infantilizes him.
God FUCKING damn it.
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>>151006044
You still have his complacency in the exterminations which is a good starting point, but I'm waiting to see just how much the show absolves him as it goes.
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>>150999478
kek
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>>151006038
Amazing Digital Circus has a lot of smut….?
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>>151006075
But she still writes it off as “poor wittle guy, he was trying his best!”
She does not let that man get hit with the hammer of accountability.
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>>151006078
It's not a 65 episode show, though. I would enjoy Circus much more if it was a 65 episode syndicated TV show like Storm Hawks or Horse Show instead of a webseries with no schedule.
Also too much of the porn is futa, and I don't really like that kind of stuff outside of special circumstances.
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>>151006118
Well, I don’t know what you’re into, so I can’t really give you a good reccomendation.
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>>151006123
>>151006038
>Steven Universe, Star Vs and She-Ra
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>>150996094
>entire episode about the best two characters hanging out
neat
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>>150998323
Wife!
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>>151006201
My wife, to be specific
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>>151005077
>Sera is now acting Charlie's agenda is right
I mean, Charlie was right. Sinners can be redeemed. You have a point about how (so far) it doesn't look like Sera cares much about actual heavenborn but I think it's weird that people are still arguing about whether or not redemption is possible in this setting when we've known for over a year that it is.
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Have these been posted yet?

https://twitter.com/HellaversePrime/status/1982479325355188679

https://twitter.com/HellaversePrime/status/1982522281445543937
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>>150996662
Source on that art?
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>>150999291
>Emily: So you see Carl everything DOES matter. Which is why you're here now.
>Carl: Yeah yeah a'ight. Just tell me where the nearest strip joint is. You guys got those up here, right?
>Emily: ............
>Carl: Ahhh, of course you don't. Hoooow silly of me to assume that the place that child-molestin' priests talk about all the time would have a strip joint. Apologies. 'My bad' as the kids are sayin' now.
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>>151006595
You have to understand that this board is full of retards
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What an angel.
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>make a show about demons and hell
>but the angels are cuter and heaven is more compelling
based.
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>>151006838
Weird how weak Lucifer seems, what if being nervous and trying to hide hes taking charlie away. Not to mention weak when bickering with alastor

Then again, with Blake basically spoiling that everyone is all happy at the end, lucifer won't die. So he needs the power down to not make all threats immediately ineffective
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>>151007499
NO. No, she wouldn’t!
She ain’t THAT DUMB!
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>>151007371
She's a retard but we love her.
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>>151007499
I think he just likes petty bickering with people. He's not weaker, he's just letting Alastor get away with a lot without feeling a need to curbstomp him. Even after Adam tried to kill Charlie, Lucifer just messed around with him for most of the fight.
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>>151005077
Serious question, how is Sera still in authority? She just got exposed going behind the government's back to cull the population of a foreign nation.
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Imagine someone being this happy to see you.
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>>151003910
They aren't cool with each other. Most of Hell wants revenge and Lute wants to finish the job. Sera and Emily are going to make an effort at apologies and peace, but that's going to go tits up at the first opportunity and everyone suing for peace is going to realize there was a reason a one sided war was being fought in the first place. The only question is whether Hell has enough angelic arms to pose a threat to Heaven or if its back to yearly curb stomps while the angels now know picking up their trash is a life or death issue. I'm figuring the hotel will have some sort of neutrality agreement since presumably people will be vetted as to whether they actually seek redemption and Sera, Emily, Lucifer and Charlie are all going to be on board. That leaves us with Vox trying his coup in Hell and Lute stirring shit up in Heaven to get revenge for Adam and Pentious dealing with the sudden change in circumstance.
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>>151007636
Why is he a bitch now after putting belt-to-ass on Adam?
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>pentious is sad because he's stuck in literal heaven with best girl and he can't hang out with his shitty hell "friends"
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>>150999241
Fake and Gay
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>>151007822
Cherri must have some Olympic head for him to be yearning that badly
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>>151007822
Why does Pentious want to go back to the place where he was raped and his friends did nothing? Is he stupid?
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>>151008129
Cherri must’ve had some bomb-ass pussy.
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>>151008129
How many male characters is this now that have been raped? If this happened to a female character even once - even implied - this series would be boycotted out of existence.
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>>151007809
Lucifer is incredibly unmotivated because of his implied depression
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>>151007809
Alastor poking fun at him isn't enough of a reason to get violent toward him and there isn't much point in flexing phsycially on someone who's like an ant comparatively. Not to mention Charlie won't have it.

Mostly I think he just has fun with the banter based on the leaks. He practically lights up when Alastor walks in the room in episode 4 because he gets to shit talk.
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>>151008320
Yeah, “implied” as in “as subtle as a SWAT team at a Chuck E Cheese party”
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>>151007723
You didn't read our convo. If Emily persuades Sera to Charlie's side by the end of the season, that would be, presumably, the leader of Heaven conceding and making peace. Lute couldn't persuade anyone to her side in the leaks, so unless Sera secretly plots against Charlie, there would be no Heaven villain anymore. I doubt Lute or the Vees are making it past season 2
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>>151008401
I know that, but his behavior changes between “little baby bitch boy” to “destroyer of worlds”
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>>151008421
What if they’re planning to redeem the Vees?
OH GOD NO. NONONO.
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>>151007583
Cute little goofball
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>this is what they took from us
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>>151008658
Now this is the Viv I can believe was in a relationship with a frat boy jock she based a villain on.
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>>151008531
I'd love to see Val get redeemed just for the pure seething it would produce among his haters.
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>>151008746
>Viv was in a relationship with a frat boy jock she based a villain on.
I thought she had a crush on said fratboy jock and he just blew her off?
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>>151008421
>I doubt Lute or the Vees are making it past season 2
I'm pretty sure some other set of leaks said she survives season 2, but that aside she's clearly going to fall (there's hints all over Gravity). The Vees are a maybe. Viv seems to be genuinely allergic to killing off characters (even she, Alex and Lute's VA have implied that Adam is coming back in some way). My bets are the Vees get their asses handed to them so badly that they just kind of slink off into the background while still having semi-important parts (because Viv said what they do this season basically causes season 3 to happen).
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>>151008202
It's gonna be hilarious when this show gets torn to shreds by the gays and their own #MeToo movement in a couple of decades.
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>>151008952
People already criticize the show for it, especially since Angel's rape is taken much more seriously.
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>>151008749
I think it’s a little justified to not like him.
Anyways, how the hell does Vivienne expect to redeem him?
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>>151008780
Everyone survives. But I think this season’s filler for Season 3, because that’s probably when Lilith arrives.
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>>151009042
>Val wakes up one day
>"Man, I'm kind of a dick, maybe I should change that?"
>shows up at the Hotel seeking redemption
>Charlie's ideals mean she cant say no and has to take him in, despite protests from Angel
>he apologizes to Angel Dust, maybe frees him from the contract
The sheer number of people who think he's irredeemable and doesnt deserve it is baffling considering the whole premise of the show.
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>>151009081
Yeah, but you know her writing.
You know it’s not gonna be a well written arc.
She’s gonna rush the fuck out of it.
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>>150996287
What is the real scene, as I remember seeing a YouTube video a long time having this screenshot in it, but the Beaver was replaced by a Family Guy styled Sonic The Hedgehog?
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>>150996287
cringe
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>>151006838
Why is he such a massive fucking faggot? Seriously He's not intimidating, he is a massive fucking loser, and he spends all of his time being what is effectively a neet shut in. Who the fuck would follow this retard?
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>>151007643
My heart would melt
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>>151010265
You forget a large category of the fanbase is Tumblr gooners who fuck any twink in sight.

Double points if you can project mental illness or autism on the character, regardless of how ableist it sounds.
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>>150999390
Sex
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That's a tall bitch.
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>>151010474
>Damn bitch, are you the Heaven within Heaven or are you just naturally that tall?
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>>151007643
Imagine someone being this horny to see you
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>>151007833
You haven't seen what she can do with that eye
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>>151010811
Skullfucking?
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>>150997614
Yeah I think a cool reveal would be that the true reason for the exterminations was Adam trying to kill Cain
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>>151010963
No, she ain’t that smart.
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Post more Sera please.
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>>151011408
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>>151011445
She's so pretty.
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>>151007371
>>151010775
I'm gonna make nephilim with the seraphim.
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STORM'S COMIN', I CAN SEE THE CLOUDS
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>>151011678
>"Good, makes things easier for the both of us"
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>>151011689
NO RUNNING'S GONNA SAVE YOU NOW
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>>150996094
Is anyone going to set up a stream when the new episode drops?
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>>150996662
draw yourself sucking adam's dick
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>>150998274
praise satan for this
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>>150999368
this is the plot of season 2
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>>150999390
troon????
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>>151012052
I doubt anyone on /co/ will stream it live. It should be up on torrents or mega within an half an hour of release anyways
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>>151012778
Speaking of which, is there a torrent for Season 1?
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>>151001730
I demand fan art now!
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>>151004451
thanks anon very cool
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>>151008658
You're telling me there was a point in time when vivz was genuinely cute??
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>>151008658
This pig is malnourished. Needs feeding.
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>>151009096
That's the best part. Even if Viv were the best writer in the world, she still wouldn't be able to write a convincing reason to redeem a known on-screen rapist, not with the fanbase she's culminated, but that wouldn't stop her from trying. The fallout from such an attempt would be utterly spectacular.
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>>151012927
I mean, look, okay. Maybe Val is redeemable.
But the amount of time that you’d need, and development necessary, is nowhere near enough time that Vivziepop will do.

Maybe 4 episodes, max?

But seriously, why the fuck does she go for these high level topics when she can’t write actually convincing villains?

Deconstructing sexual abusers? Okay, got it. Let’s try not to make him cartoonishly evil, and then expect me to cheer when he gets redeemed.
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>>151013184
>But the amount of time that you’d need, and development necessary, is nowhere near enough time that Vivziepop will do.
>this.jpg
>Maybe 4 episodes, max?
I'd say 6 or 8, if Hazbin was given a normal episode limit like an actual fucking TV series, such as 20 episodes minimum, but we don't live in that timeline.
>But seriously, why the fuck does she go for these high level topics when she can’t write actually convincing villains?
Because Viv overestimates her ability to write. That or she overestimated just how many episodes she would get, and she either couldn't decide on what was most important and what wasn't, or she refused to cut stuff out entirely, throwing in everything in the span of eight episodes. It doesn't help that she has to juggle her focus inbetween Hazbin and Helluva, which no doubt gives her little time to actually think on her decisions long-term. There is a very small chance she actually can be a good writer, but is ultimately getting screwed over due to the small episode limit, but I digress.
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>>151013425
It’s been six years, though.
SIX!
I’ve lost all faith in her, regardless of how many seasons she gets.

Unless she pulls off the most miraculous turnover, she can’t do it. She can’t keep writing villains as these cartoonishly evil assholes, and then at the last second say,

“Oh, he’s a just a hurt wittle guy!”

IT PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF.

Do you want to write a complex villain, OR NOT?

SHE’S GOTTA PICK A FUCKING LANE.
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>>151013184
>>151013456
You're getting mad at something that isn't canon nor hinted at becoming canon in the future btw. Just off the top of my head the only antagonists across both shows that have come close to being "redeemed" are Verosika and Fizz and both of them were depicted in being justified in how they felt about Blitzo.
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>>151013476
I have a feeling in the back of my fucking spine she’s gonna try some shit.
Just you wait.
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>makes everyone seethe
How does he do it?
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>>151013486
No I'm not going to spend the next two years seething over a hypothetical scenario. There's no reason for Viv to try redeeming the Vees, she's already shown with HB that she doesn't think that a character needs to be a good person to have fans or to be turned into a bunch of merchandise. Adam is one of her favorite characters. And again it's not like she has a history of redeeming total assholes.
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>>151013499

I don’t hate the character because of what he is. I hate that he’s written one-dimensionally.

If we’re gonna discuss serious topics, like sexual abuse/rape, why the fuck do we have the super-diddler as an antagonist? He could’ve been written far better.
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>>150997614
I think it'd be the funniest if Cain's WoD-style immortal and fucking around on Earth attending Kesha concerts. Seth's in Hell because he didn't live a very good life and God had to stick SOMEBODY in there for Abel's death, might as well do it to the third brother who didn't wrangle his siblings well enough.
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>>151010265
He's the strongest thing in Hell, if he feels like it he'd wipe the floor with any and all opposition, and Hell's Hell, it clearly functions to a great degree on rule of strength. It doesn't matter that he's a depressed twink who collects rubber duckies and lounges about in a gay little bathrobe, if he feels like it he'll turn every single Overlord to vapor in the window between first and second breakfast. He just doesn't want to, which is what makes it so the Vees actually can be anyhow a threat; he doesn't give a shit, being depressed and not a control freak, because Hell's a punishment for him as well.
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Imported English pocket pussy modelled off of Loona
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my gay (literally) friend made me watch this, since he was excited for season 2. you guys only watch this shit cause the characters are hot right? also the only enjoyable character was the snake dude
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Is it 1 or 2 eps a week?
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>>151013773
I feel like part of him being strongest in Hell comes down to the fact that he's an angel, fallen or not, and even if any denizen of hell was able to land a hit on him, it wouldn't have done any damage until they found out the whole "angelic weapons" thing. I mean, look at Adam, as far as raw power we've seen on display so far, he's the second strongest character in the show, seemingly, and he was killed with a regular-ass angelic knife. I honestly have very little doubt that Lucifer could be killed the same way in this universe.
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>>151008202
Moxie in ep 3
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>>151013932
I watched it cause I saw A24’s label. I only like the animation quality.
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>>151013932
Neat songs, decent animation, 50/50 on great character designs or walking abortions
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>>151010279
>>151010775
>>151011678
>get to heaven after going out of your way to be virtuous your entire life
>first thing you see is an unbelievably hot angel chick
>commit the sin of lust in your thoughts
>get yeeted to Hell before you even step through the pearly gates
System is fuckin' rigged.
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>>151013982
You forgot the writing, Anon.
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>>151014079
Well it's not the dialogue, characterization, world building or themes that I come for
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>>151013947
2 eps
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>>151013932
For some of us it has a Skyrim like quality. Thre vanilla product is flawed but people like to mod it with fanfiction, fanart, and porn.
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>>151014075
>get to Hell
>see Charlie
>get kicked back to Heaven for lusting after the Princess of Hell
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>eps are released weekly so I still have a week or 3 to finish my retarded fanfic
Thank god. What would the world do without my "what-if" fanfic that's going to be immediately proven wrong?
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>>150996411
>Abel is a goofy guy but this is just an exterior mask
>Whenever cain is mentioned he goes apeshit
>Starts killing and wrecking shit until he is calmed down
>So in reality Abel is a vengeful spirit that wants nothing more than to kill his killer
>The goofy personality is his coping mechanism
>"Cain" is a trigger, it doesn't make him panic, no. It fills him with blind rage

But vivzie would never cause she's a fucking hack! The fucking whale
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>>151015050
Isn't that just Broly?
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>>151014499
>Bounced back and forth between tje afterlives.
>Eventually just decide to go to Limbo because it's much better than being rejected constantly.
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>>151015179
>after successfully creating a Broly AU for Homestuck /co/ now must inject him into Hazbin Hotel
please no
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>>151014619
Find some other fanfic to call "better than the source material" because it has one or two moments of naked catharsis?
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>>150996094
I ship it
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>>151006838
It's weird to me that Alastor is now Charlie's "dad" just because he's an older male figure in her life. Are fucking Angel and Husk "dads" too? Charlie's older than all of them combined!
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>>151015834
Angel is like her older brother and Husk is like a uncle
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>>151015471
Emily is for Abel only
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>>151015850
Why am I not surprised this became some “found family” tumblr cliche?
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>>151015858
But Abel is clearly gay for Peter
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>>151015471
same
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>>151016528
In Heaven you can have it both ways
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>>151015983
Funniest part is how Lucifer calls found family a bunch of losers in Hell’s Greatest Dad lmao
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>>151009081
I've thought about this and I feel like the best ending is ultimately
>Stripped of his power, he loses everything he's built up. This is his punishment, a situation a man of his ego cannot stand to be in and far worse than any prison or death sentence for a guy like him. Watching all the power he held over others just fly away
>We get a single shot of him looking at the hotel as if pondering
>He grimaces and before turning and walking off to the shadows.
>Never go back to him
You can't redeem someone like him on-screen but you can totally leave this open-ended question of "is it possible that someone like him could try to change?" while leaving it clear that it is now his own ego that has doomed him to torment
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Why is everybody on this site obsessed with sex?
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>>151013932
I just like musicals man.
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>>151013932
charlie is so fucking hot id watch her do anything
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>>151017963
>charlie is so fucking hot id watch her do anything
Even brap up a storm?
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>>151017963
Her jawline could cut glass. And that's sexy as fuck.
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>>151017982
fuck you. but yes I'm sure she'd be very apologetic about it
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>>150997074
There is no 'two sides', 'justice' is backwards bronze-age bullshit just like the original book that popularized the concept of 'eternal torment' to try to scare people into obeying the state
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Adam is so big... <3
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Dont worry folks, she isn't redeeming Vox

She's mentioned that by coincidence he acts a lot like trump thos season, who she hates
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>>151018471
Did anyone think she would? He def seems like a villain that will just die at some point.
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>>151018471
Pretty sure Vox could walk so many circles around Trump that he'd have to stop at one point to throw up
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Licking Sera's ass.
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thanks!
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>>151018809
You could literally be under her skirt and eat her out while she's in a meeting
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New previews dropped. Witchy Velvette!

https://twitter.com/HellaversePrime/status/1982888634513830314

https://twitter.com/HellaversePrime/status/1982847903686348930
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>>151019170
Yawn. Wake me when they include a shot of Velvette being topless.
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>When you see a black rapper with 50K
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Velvette looking thicker than a bowl of oatmeal!
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>>151019170
So Vagatha remains the most boring waste of space on the show, good to know.
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>>150997113
This bitch is falling soon.
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>>151019603
Velvette fight scene?
Wait, this might be fucking hype.
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>>151019170
Bold choice, Amazon kek
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>>151019603
So we got Vox vs Alastor, and (presumably) Valentino vs Angel Dust. But who's fighting Velvette? Vaggie?
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>>151019770
Where's this shot but for the entire female cast?
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>>151019170
desu vagalia isn't a terrible name considering her circumstances
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>>151019781
I want Emily to take her
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>>151019852
Why does she need to keep the "Vag" part though? She could just call herself Vanessa or Vivian or whatever.
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>>151019852
There's nothing she can do to her name that will stop it from sounding like "vagina" or a barely veiled euphemism. If she's going to change it, it ought to be totally from scratch. She shouldn't though because being named Vagina is the most interesting thing about her.
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>>151019206
>>151019838
I have to ask why you hold Viv to this specific standard of required female nudity when she has to adhere to the same rules as everyone else. Did Viv personally promise she'd show off bare tits at some point?
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>>151019770
how long until they delete?
I give it one more hour
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>>151019869
>Why does she need to keep the "Vag" part though?
Copyright and marketing reasons, probably.
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>>151019770
Imagine hating me and I'm just over here like this
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>>151019770
Feel like the nipple chain is a safety hazard
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>>151019886
Hmm? I just want to see Lute's tittes bro. And Charlie's. And Cherri's. And Emily's. And Sera's. And Velvette's. And Vaggie's. And Carmilla's. And Rosie's. And Niffty's. And uh... fucking who else? Oh, yeah! Lilith for sure. Titties.

Also their bellies and armpits.
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>>151019770
Gross
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It's actually crazy how naive and gullible the ~200-year-old princess of Hell is. Did Lilith and Lucifer just not try raising her
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>>151020085
On one hand, I understand her sheltered nature.
But JESUS CHRIST, this show doesn’t need to infantilize her so fucking badly.
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Is this coming out tomorrow?
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>>151018242
Fedora Tiper Faggot
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>>151020212
Morning of the 29th.
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>>151020256
I will eagerly await for the torrent or the mega to come out then
>Jesus christ, I can't believe its been 2 years already since season 1
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>>151020085
>>151020111
I miss Charlie from the pilot episode, she had more personality and didn't seem so naive. She even calls Alastor "sketchy as fuck" to his face and knows he's untrustworthy but is willing to accept his help because she's desperate (and he kinda charms her over with his song). I miss Pilot Alastor too, jesus
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>>151020085
Endgame Season 1 Charlie feels like it has to be a denial thing, she has her moments where she can absolutely lay down the law and get mad (t. Valentino), but other times it feels super forced.
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>>151015050
even crazier idea
>Cain isn't immortal on earth or a sinner in hell
> heaven directly killed Cain after he murdered Abel.
>But Cain is still alive, inside Abel's head as a diffrent personality.
>it's a Jekyll & Hyde situation
>Abel isn't aware of Cain's existence until one time he gets really angry and feels himself slipping to a diffrent person.
>"I LIVE INSIDE YOUR HEAD FOREVER AND NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO SEPARATE ABEL FROM CAIN!!"
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>>151019603
>thick
Where?
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>>151020280
It's sad that two years between seasons is actually pretty quick for shows nowadays.
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>>151019689
Shut up, heretic
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>>151020952
They already have season 3 recorded so I'm expecting that sooner now.
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>>151019886
And what rules does she have to adhere to, pray tell? And why do you feel it necessary to defend her in every thread?
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>>151020280
They’re only gonna release the first two episodes, I doubt you’ll be able to snatch the whole season unless you get past Amazon security.
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>>151020360
I miss my autistic husband so fucking much.
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>>151021055
>And what rules does she have to adhere to, pray tell?
The same that pretty much every other piece of television or film has to when it comes to female nudity.
>And why do you feel it necessary to defend her in every thread?
You have me confused with someone else.
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>>151021231
There’s some fucker who’s a diehard Hazbin fan that keeps shitting into every goddamn thread whenever Hazbin is mentioned, just to defend it.
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>>151021254
>a diehard Hazbin fan that keeps shitting into every goddamn thread whenever Hazbin is mentioned
huh
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>>151021268
It seems to be some guy just shitting on anyone with mild criticism of Hazbin popping up every time Hazbin is mentioned.
Even in passing.
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>>151021231
>The same that pretty much every other piece of television or film has to when it comes to female nudity.
Mind telling me what Amazon's rules are, since you seem to be in the know?
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>>151021231
>The same that pretty much every other piece of television or film has to when it comes to female nudity.
Live action gets away with titties.
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>>151021312
And if memory serves, some of Netflix's animated features tend to be pretty lenient with tits as well. I imagine Amazon isn't any different in that regard.

No, contrary to the defense of our brown shill, the freedom is there, but Vivzie refuses to capitalize on it, because boobs are icky.
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>>151021344
Viv also isn't showing off full male characters' full hogs either.
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>>151021344
I’m not much of a guy who cares for nudity, but all we get is a shoulder?

Closest thing we got is shots of Angel’s ass crack.
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>>151021370
Genitals =/= tits. Valentino's bare chest is just up this reply chain.
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>>151021370
That's not the argument, even though the next season of HB will feature full frontal nudity, according to Brandon Rogers. But you damned well know it won't extend to the female characters.

No, the argument began on the subject of females being topless. Boobs are nowhere near as extreme as trouser snakes.
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Nobody in either show of either gender ever gets naked in a sexy way so I don't know what this argument is even about.
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>>151021397
>Genitals =/= tits.
You're right but unfortunately too many people disagree with you
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>>151021411
Yeah, I dont remember the last amazon animated show that showed nudity
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>>151021411
I’m not a begging man, but just a titty, please?
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>>151021411
Oh, please -- quit being obtuse. Are you saying this >>151019770 isn't intended to be sexy?
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>>151021503
If he's not actually naked it doesn't count.
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>>150997113
Rape
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>>151021503
No because there are no nipples anon, there is implied nipples but no nipples
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>>151021554
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>>150997113
I need her.
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You can get away with all kinds of nudity if your show is considered prestige, like Blue Eye Samurai. Otherwise you gotta lock them titties up.
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>>151021663
Titties increase the ratings, no matter what show.
Unless it’s like Veggietales or Bluey
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>>151021663
>You can get away with all kinds of nudity if your show is considered prestige
What would Hazbin be considered?
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>>151021874
Typical adult comedy animation
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>>151021899
I mean, you also have to account for the musical part.
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>>151014395

Same thing with franchises like this show helluva boss, smiling friends, glitch shows, bluey, the pony show, and grand theft auto the fandom seems to be carrying the franchise with greedy corporations shitting on the fandom and pushing their own narratives.
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>>151022531
Post more of those two.
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>>151017168
Nice
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>>151022531
overworked vox is my favorite dynamic for these two.
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>>151020085
Probably incredibly sheltered.
Like never allowed outside alone, would be teleported directly to school that’s in a Hellborn only area, little to no interaction with Sinners at all.
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>>151006105
She does this with Stolas to a much worse extent which I think is a pretty good measure.
How much a character is allowed to be knocked around or given consequence for prior actions is dependent entirely on a sliding scale of "pet character."
Like, Vivzie seems to take actual offense to the audience seeing Stolas as anything short of a "wholesome victim who is totally an amazing dad and everything has been so unfair to him and he's trying".
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>>151021846
>Titties increase the ratings
Then maybe this show should have a bunch of tits all out because it really needs a higher rating to stop literal children from watching it.
Like when they had a literal twelve year old asking shit at a convention, you could tell the cast were all uncomfortable with a kid being at what should be an adult only convention.
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>>151021411
It's such a better ship than Chaggie.
How is Vaggie so fucking boring and lame?
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>>151023298
It’s because Vaggie has no personality beyond being Charlie’s girlfriend.
Like look at the songs she has.
Whatever It Takes? Just her wanting to be there for Charlie as her partner.
Out For Love? How she’s gotta be fighting for her love of Charlie.
Vaggie’s entire existence revolves around Charlie, it’s really unsettling and presumably unhealthy.
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>>151023169
(1/2)
And it’s ridiculous as fuck. I also hate Stolas too, so I’ll get my punches in.

I’m not against Stolas and Blutz getting together, but the romance and “angst”, if you could call it angst, feels so fucking shoehorned.

And I want to see Stolas evolve from just some weepy little fucking sissy boy. Like, I get he went through some shit, but trying to put him on par with Blitz is fucking ridiculous.

Sure, he has a bitch wife, but Blitz… fuck.
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>>151023364
Her voice acting also sucks.
Lady can't emote worth a shit.
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Stolas needs a break badly.
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>>151023263
I mean, kids are gonna get into shit they shouldn’t be getting into. Like, I watched PSG when I was 10. That shit was crazy.

I just don’t think Vivienne cares enough to make this an actual adult show, but more like Rick and Morty where you know there’s gonna be kids in the fandom, so fuck any adult storytelling.
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>>151023408
Stolas needs to be broken by me badly
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>>151023423
In a sex way?
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>>151023407
I think she’s trying to go for “Gabriella from Brooklyn Nine-Nine” acting.

Which it worked because Stephanie Beatriz was Gabriella. She isn’t Gabriella anymore.
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>>151023364
It makes sense. Her whole life was torn away from her and Charlie rescued her. It makes sense that she wouldn't have anything else in her life.
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>>151023407
She voiced the protagonist in Encanto who I seem to recall being pretty emotive.
So I guess it's just a character decision to have Vaggie be boring and stern.
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>>151023389
(2/2)
Then we get to fucking Lucifer. Oh my FUCKING GOD. How do you fuck up a hole-in-one?

I honestly didn’t mind him, at first. Interesting implied depression, and the animation really carried that hidden side of him.
But they just glossed over his depression from losing his wife for 7 years, and tried to make it funny. “Sure he’s depressed, but let’s give him a goofy ass song with Alastor for the shippers!”

Also, his depression being magically lifted off by the end of the episode.

I genuinely felt so angry, I just started laughing my ass off.
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>>151023491
Four-eyed fucking fat-faced ugly cunt
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>>151023437
What other way is there?
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>>151023491
Probably, and she's an awful fit for it. Hands down the worst vocal performance for a major character on the show.
>>151023519
Hey now, she's not that bad.
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>>151023553
I thought Keith David was worse. I know Husk’s whole thing is supposed to be apathy, but I feel like anyone could’ve played Husk, but she just chose a big name.
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>>151023519
Still easier on the eyes than Vaggie.
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>>151023502
I'm sure they'll come back to what a sadsack Lucifer is when they bring in Lilith.
But it makes absolute sense for Charlie's love to "magically lift" Lucifer's depression.
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Alastor rape
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Some of Vaggie's best moments is just being a supporting character to others in S1.
>Out for Love being a highlight for Carmilla
>More Than Anything is just a reprisal of Lucifer's song
>Entire motivation IS just Charlie centric no matter how much she's a 'I'll die for her' character

I'm gonna entirely blame the fact she was confirmed to have been rewritten to fit the theory of her being an exorcist too due to how on the nose Carmilla makes the exorcist logic to be, even though that wasn't Vaggie's original direction.
>t. The hardcore shipping she had with Angel Dust early on.
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>>151023570
Didn't Viv admit she gave zero voice direction to Keith? The same might be true of Stephanie; or at the very least, she was given minimal direction.
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>>151023581
I understand the Charlie thing, it’s just such a fucking tonal whiplash. His depression’s cured in 20 goddamn minutes.

And I pray to god that when Lilith shows up, it’s not going to drag on for too long about “I missed my wife”. But that would be INFINITELY better than Vivienne making Alastor and Lucifer a canon relationship.
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>>151023611
I can’t tell you, I don’t know. But I guess she didn’t give him direction because she probably thought he was experienced enough.
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Raping and forcing angels to give birth to half human mongrels...
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>>151023602
>>t. The hardcore shipping she had with Angel Dust early on.
That, and some older art definitely confirms she was written as a sinner at first.
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>>151023570
Eh, I'd still put him above Vaggie on account of his voice sounding more natural. Vaggie's sounds really forced. You can tell the VA doesn't naturally go that low.
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>>151023665
Yeah, it’s more natural for the character. But I just felt Pilot Husk was much better at depicting the more prickly side of his personality.
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>>151023633
>Alastor and Lucifer a canon relationship
What? Is that a thing? From what I could tell Alastor hates Lucifer.
I'd put money on Alastor being in love with Lilith or something. Hence his disappearance from Hell, some deal he's bound to, and taking care of Charlie "like a daughter".
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>>151004451
When Cain gonna make a cult around worshiping green rocks from other space?
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I'd say out of all the characters that benefitted from the show's release, it's Husk. Pilot Husk is on point for his namesake because even if he was initially gonna be like some father figure to Crymini (who I really wouldn't be surprised is forgotten about to Viv given she probably wrote her entire character arc for Loona instead), he's got fuckin' nothing on Show Husk dropping one of the best backgrounds that he was an overlord, that shit was still jawdropping to see especially with the immediate comparison it causes for Alastor and Valentino that Alastor doesn't help with in Ep 5.

I'm suckin' Keith off greatly, but Pilot Husk was just dealt a bad hand, Keith had a LOT more to build with and he killed it even if there was 'no direction'.
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>>151023725
>From what I could tell Alastor hates Lucifer.
Nothing gets yaoifags going harder than two male characters who hate each other
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>>151023570
Getting Keith David still feels weird to me.
Like all the other VAs I understand, they’re all like broadway stars so they fit with Viv loving broadway, but was like Keith just walking by the studio one day and asked, “hey yo Keith, you wanna voice an alcoholic catman in hell?”
And he’s like “fuck yes I do!!”
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>>151023602
>>151023653
From what I understand originally she was a sinner and Angel Dust’s gf, but at some point someone else working on the pilot told Viv that her and Charlie would make a cute couple and she ran with it.
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>>151023806
Don’t get me wrong, Keith David’s a good actor.
But he really didn’t give a shit.

Though, I felt the same way about Alex Brightman. He didn’t put in as much effort for Pentious or Adam as he did playing Fizz (IN MY OPINION)
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>>151023725
I keep seeing merch depicting them together, and it’s making my spidey senses tingle.

Vivienne fucked up one series with yaoi, I refuse to let her do it to another show.
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>>151023830
I could forgive Brightman for it, voicing two different characters on one show is presumably more taxing than just one character.
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>>151023923
Yeah, I get that.
Maybe it’s just because I have my expectations set too high?
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>>151023849
>Vivienne fucked up one series with yaoi, I refuse to let her do it to another show.
Huskerdust already exists
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>>151024132
But, I mean, it didn’t get in the way of the main plot. I don’t mind Huskerdust because they’re not hijacking the main premise for Huskerdust.

Stolas and Blitz romance fucked up the whole flow of the show.
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>>151023806
Keith's defended the show and him voicing Husk on twitter before, I really don't think he sees this role as below him.
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>>151020360
They really should have kept the voice distortions and effects. Really played up the Radio Demon vibe.
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>>151024185
Oh, he definitely loves the attention he’s getting. I think he’s happy to be back in the spotlight.
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>>151024271
He's also in the King of the Hill reboot and some other Netflix cartoon where he's a demon. I think he just likes being in shit.
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>>151024294
Haunted Hotel.
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>>151024382
That's more than a coincidence
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>>151024839
I swear to god, that’s the name of the show.
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>>151017755
Because they’re not having any.
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>>151023441
The pebble in my shoe makes sense to be there too but it doesn't get a speaking role.
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>>151025272
>retarded nigger
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>>151010265
Tumblr girls love that kind of contrast in men. Looking intimidating and acting the part because you know you're strong doesn't get them hot and bothered. Looking like an absolute doofus yet knowing that you're one of the strongest? They go insane over it. Vivziepop clearly thinks the same way which is why almost every notable man in the series is a twink.
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>>151022911
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>>151019206
no way bro, this is an amazon cartoon. you get constant blood, cussing, and male on male anal sex but not a single female nipple.
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>>151020212
>>151020280

Hey there! I am greatly announced that, beginning tomorrow... I will be streaming over CyTube to deliver new episodes LIVE, per the schedule from Futon Critic. It will be released weekly until the finale for this season of Hazbin Hotel.

Plus, in my home country... The latest national news at 4pm (Manila time). I also air a tape-delayed and/or replay telecasts, in the event of technical adjustments and busy work. I am open for donations for non-Prime subbers and covering public broadcasting costs.

I did broadcast for Panty & Stocking S2 back then, with a new episode for /a/ section, also airing it LIVE and uncensored.

For the meantime, I'll input a stream link soon. Paid for the prime sub by the way. Wish me luck.
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>>151025368
In what sense? If you want your script to be about as interesting as a historical document or some rando's D&D transcript, then you can do without the editing pass. But if your character is literally there to not matter, then why does she matter enough to keep in the story at all?
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Stop shipping that loser with emily
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>>151026344
Bro, what are you yapping about?
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>>150996094
I never thought I'd see this show have a thread in 4chan out of all places.

What do you guys honestly enjoy about this show?

I watched season 1 in it's entirety and I hated it.
Probably the cheesiest show I've watched.
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>>151010265
>Who the fuck would follow this retard?
I mean its not like we see him being a leader. The Sins have been running things fine since he's never around, the Hellborn and Sinners don't seem to have any respect for him or his Royal family, he's basically just a figurehead cause he's the strongest in Hell.
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>>151026408
we enjoy an adult cartoon that has its own style instead of being another family burger morty
we also want to have sex with some characters
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>>151024189
And he should have actually told jokes with his microphone adding a laugh track like he did in the pilot. He actually seemed like a showboaty radio host.

I miss Ed Bosco so much it's not even funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me0XrTTM_3s
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>>151026452
>we enjoy an adult cartoon that has its own style instead of being another family burger morty

fair enough, I've enjoyed things for less
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>>150999409
I don't care what it is
I wanna stick my cock in it
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>>151026474
taking away his humor and wackiness really ruined him, now he's just an edgy ass guy who can't even back it up since he keeps losing and being disrespected.
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>>151026556
He was the first character I nearly went ChrisChan-level autistic over. The first that I legit had a crush on.
THEY MURDERED MY HUSBAND.
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>>151026630
ntayrt but SAME! I'm a fully grown, adult woman and I haven't had a genuine crush on a fictional character since I was a kid. I randomly watched the Hazbin pilot episode when it first came out and I swear to god it was like being struck by cupid's arrow or something. I was immediately hooked and I couldn't stop thinking about him, I'm still flabbergasted wondering how the hell I became so pants-on-head-retarded over a fucking cartoon character like this, kek. How did this happen?
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>>151026703
Only Pilot Alastor, though.
His goofy, whimsical ass is far better than that fucking Redditor imposter voiced by Amir Talai.
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>>151026850
Oh how I miss him...
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>>151026860
That mothefucker made me giggle like a schoolgirl. I was kicking my feet and shit. Oh, god, he was so fun.
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>>150996094
https://yourcountdown.to/hazbin-hotel
>less then a day

quick go to dolla store to get extra snacks and drinks, maybe buy a pizza.

How prepared are you?
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>>150996094

This show is so satanic its like it was made to upset christians
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>>151026949
Is it going to release right on midnight though or they delay it to a specific time during the day?
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>>151026956
I think because of time zones, or some other junk, usually it's 3-4 hours after midnight.
Best to either stay up all night, or just wake up early.
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>>151026956
As you said, sometimes they do delay the release for like 12 hours, even after it's ready.

But I would think by early morning.
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>>151026966
It says it’s releasing at 2am on the 29th, for me. I’m in EST time though
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>>151019770
I dislike the coloring. It looks like the chain is painted on him like World of Warcraft armor
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We don't even get bare titties, only pasties which is even hotter
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>>151026990
That seems right and what I'm used to.
2-4 hours is what i meant.

2 hours after midnight is fairly normal.
Again some time zones might be diffrent.
And there can be 30 min delays or something sometimes.

I check sites after midnight for updates on shows a lot, so I know it can take a little bit of variable time frame.
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>>151026408
>it's entirety
Learn how to grammar, and maybe we'll bother to explain it.
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>>151020085
>~200-year-old
huh?
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>>151026953
Fuck off, nerd
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>>151026076
NTA but it boils down to wanting the perfectly inoffensive and non-threatening man but actually he could kick your ass and choke her out if he wanted to (but only on her orders.)
They basically want an attractive guard dog they can fuck. Which makes a lot of sense when you consider the types of smut fiction peddled by ladies over the course of history. But what do I know?
I'm a dork posting on 4chan.
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Where did she get the idea that people blame Eve as if Adam wasn't right there? Do they seriously take his obvious "Uh... IT WAS THAT WOMAN YOU GAVE ME, GOD! SHE TRICKED ME!" blame-shifting as if we're supposed to believe him?
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>>151027842
Wasnt it due to both being innocent but Eve persuading Adam (still innocent state) into it after she herself had the fruit so she knew what she was doing? Obviously its snakefag's fault but Eve had a hand in continuing it. Guess when she got knowledge she still failed to realize that pissing off god tends not to go well
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>>151027842
I feel like Lute's VA should stick to being the third best female singer on the show (after Charlie and the spanish lady whose name I keep forgetting, first half of Whatever It Takes) and stop acting like anything in the show is deep.

If I was going to write that part, I would've made it so that pre-fruit, Adam and Eve were pets for God the same way you'd keep a cat or a dog. The tree is there simply to prove how much your pet loves and obeys you by never touching it. Lucifer takes issue with the whole idea of keeping semi-sentient pets and busts the whole thing open knowing it's at least better to die free than live forever in a cage.
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I've seen it and I just gotta say that Nifty turning out to be Roo in disguise felt a bit Sith Lord Jar Jar Binks to me. I can see what Viv was trying to do but it just didn't really work in the execution.
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>>151027920
Eh, at least it's better than Good Omens
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why didn't Alistair just shoot angle with his demon lazer?
and why doesn't TV demon have demon lazer? that's why he could beat him but why doesn't he have the lazer like a TV lazer?
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>>151028179
>Alistair
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>>151028179
If everyone had demon lasers the show would turn into Dragon Ball with beam struggles and power levels would come heavily into question.
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>>151028179
Serpentious had Lazer guns and canons but they never let him use it
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>>151027920
Weirdly enough as you read Genesis, it doesn't even really seem to kick in for her until Adam eats it
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>>151028040
>Roo
Why is this post the first time i see that name in co?
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>>151027920
>she still failed to realize that pissing off god tends not to go well
to be fair, not a lot of precedent
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>>151028054
>implying Crowley wasn't demon kino
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>>151028302
Because it's just some concept character revealed in some random panel or Twitter post
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>>151028427
I can't tell if it's some useless background character, or A demon with enough power to help Lilith and vox in the beginning.

I guess we bet on useless, but what if not?
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>>151027842
>>151027920
>Do they seriously take his obvious "Uh... IT WAS THAT WOMAN YOU GAVE ME, GOD! SHE TRICKED ME!" blame-shifting as if we're supposed to believe him?
Biblically, the actual reason his blameshifting is so ineffective isn't necessarily that he isn't right, it is that he's the patriarch and thus responsible for Eve(who is his lesser) no matter what, so he can't escape blame.
Also why Adam is the one 'credited' with original sin in scripture(Sin of Adam), not Eve.
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>>151019087
On your tippy toes, even
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>>151021593
We've gotten females in pasties in the hellaverse multiple times now, he's literally wearing pasties.
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>>151029449
Literally? Are you sure they're not just heart-shaped nipples? Did you touch them? Did you ask?
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>>151023806
He said he was actively looking for something to show off his singing talent + something different from his recent fare. This fit both bills perfectly, I seem to recall him being quite jazzed about it
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>>151027499
Charlie's around 200
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>>151030144
yes, i got that.
i just don't remember it ever being mentioned.
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>>151030338
It's word of Viv
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>>150996411
https://youtu.be/BOlHM1E56O8

Anon, fan concepts are the way. It will never not be the way.
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>>151028386
Pretty sure it should have still tipped her off that doing the one thing the big man specifically told you NOT to do would almost assuredly not be favorably, but she roped Adam into it anyway
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Blu-Ray confirmed
https://x.com/HellaversePrime/status/1983202382692659370
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>>151031016
pre-ordered glad the show is getting a physical release
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>>151026408
I like most of the songs. I like many of the characters. I like how it feels authentic in its own flawed and clumsy way. I like how funny the show is, with some good jokes and other ones that feel unintentionally hilarious. I like the visuals and the voice actor performances. Finally, I like that it feels like something from a bygone era.
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>>151026408
I liked the songs and the characters I think it needs to have 12 or 13 episode seasons as the short seasons feels like it's hurting the show to me it's still enjoyable.
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>>150997113
"So... I've heard you got two..."
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>>151027842
I guess there's always been extremists who want to use the tale as a way to blame the woman to justify their twisted views, but you'd find it hard to find some Christian family nowadays who blames the woman. Both are always portrayed as being in the wrong equally.
It's also weird for her to focus so much on Adam and Eve when that's a footnote in the bible. Even extremists nowadays focus on other tales instead of that one. It's like making Noah an animal abuser who took credit for the boat when the magical animals who talked back then where the ones who built it. Who the fuck is out there thinking either of those characters is important?
The one they always talk about is Gee Whiz, but you know she doesn't have the guts to go there.
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>>151031795
12? Oh, no. She’ll need 20, minimum, if we expect an actually coherent plot.
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>>151023776
I mean, he already has a small cult of Cainites in hell that worship him.
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>>151032116
I don't disagree but I can't think of any current or recent 22 minute cartoons that even GET that many episodes per season anymore. I wish they did. 12 seems more realistic in the current day.
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>>150997106
If the show were based, they'd make Cain an immortal wanderer who has the skin of a demon (like Verosika or Blitzo's skin color) but the body of a man. He'd be like Frankenstein, the Highlander, or the Man with No Name. There are hundreds of ways to explore such a character that could be awesome.
But in Hellaverse, a man is only good if he's a father figure, a silly cartoon character, or gay. Meaning you'd have to push him in one of those roles to be complex in any way. If not, he'd just be an unredeemable jackass who treats women like shit and gets dunked on for being a loser.
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>>151032154
Well, yeah, 12 is realistic.

But even with 12 or so episodes, look at what happened to Season 2 of Helluva Boss. That should serve as evidence that even with that many episodes, she still fumbles.
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>>151032363
I actually like Helluva Boss Season 2 just fine
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>>151032363
>>151032395
Hazbin would definitely benefit more from more episodes because it's plot-driven whereas HB is character-driven.
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>>151032395
Yeah, but.. I still miss what we had in Season 1.
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There should be new hh thread for tonight.
I have about 9 Hours left till release.
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>>151032451
Fuck, you’re right.
Honestly, the show would’ve felt a lot less rushed and tone-deaf if she just slowed her pace.
A lot more episodes would do that, but I’m pretty sure this next season is gonna be eight episodes again. Hoo, boy.
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They released a musical recap of Season 1 an hour ago on Twitter.

Here’s the link:
https://x.com/hellaverseprime/status/1983247458965631024?s=46

Sorry if it doesn’t work, I’m new to 4chan.
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>>151032601
That was semi entertaining, Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM5t0qbad6s
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I want to see Angel Dust doing the Peter Parker dance from Spider-Man 3.
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>>151026262

Hope to see you guys tomorrow, countdown and stream included.

Also, if you're a Prime subber... You may skip our broadcast as needed. Thank you.



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