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>>150997058It's weird but I think this is one of the only flashback stories to actually do anything with the DeFalco retcon about MJ always knowing. Outside of Parallel Lives at least
>>150997078When I first read this I thought the big twist/retcon in this story was something Busiek made up. But apparently it’s from a graphic novel by Gerry Conway (can’t remember the name) who tried to establish when MJ found out. Which makes sense because this series seems to mostly use or add to existing continuity instead of coming up with big retcons on its own.Interestingly (or maybe not) the editor of this series, Tom Brevoort, said he hated that retcon of how early MJ found out.
>>150997078>>150997136Oh sorry, you mentioned the name of the OGN, Parallel Lives.
>>150997136>>150997145Yeah DeFalco just had MJ say she'd known "for years" and Conway was the one who made it so that she knew since the start
>>150997147>>150997163>>150997182Damn this fight scene looks clean. Modern comics could never.
Huh. I didn't know this was happening again. Thanks.
This one's a bit of a big deal innit?>>150997324Well you're only one day behindPlenty easy to catch up
>>150997332Jason really just is an asshole
>>150997345It's a deal. Shame it got completely obliterated by synergy
>>150997382Busiek loved narration captions more than… than… someone who loves something else loves that other thing.
Big time spotlight for the lava men, getting a tv spot like that
>>150997404I didn't know we had such accomplished wordsmiths in our midst
>>150997404More than Stan Lee? I highly doubt that
>>150997438My heroes!
>>150997361that's an ugly Iron Man armor
Wuh-oh guysLooks like this new team needs a bit a practice with the teamwork
>>150997432Lee actually didn’t use narration as much as other superhero writers, believe it or not. Especially later in the 60s.If you compare Lee’s scripts over Kirby’s art with the scripts Kirby wrote himself, Lee is much more willing to let the art speak for itself, which is counterintuitive but true.Busiek’s narration is more based on the 1970s writers at Marvel who used captions for everything (eg Steve Gerber, Chris Claremont).
>>150997345Neat. I'm still catching up on yesterday's so I won't be able to read them as you post. I wanted to comment on >>150985891That really isn't Thunderball's voice. He's the fucking nerd of the group.
No toys allowed? Boo.
>>150997361>>150997461Why does Iron Man have nipples?
>>150997610That's from the cancelled Schumacher film
>>150997438Justice, like lighting, ever should appear To few men ruin, but to all men fear.
>>150997610Iron Man nipples are a proud tradition.
>>150997645Spidey should really take notes about how to handle his press
>>150997730Had the Wrecking Crew already become the designated jobber team at Marvel?
>>150997781Citizen V you patriotic doofus!
There's our boy
>>150997345LET'S FUCKING GO!
Honestly the twist is kind of a shame, these guys were 300% more charming than every other new group of X-treme brutes the 90s tried to introduce
>>150997855>>150997873Even going in knowing it, this is still a very effective twist
>>150997391Man, the Lavamen are just a thing that we have, but never really use.
>>150997873I think that charm was meant to make the twist such a twist.
>>150997873The twist has twists, it all works out for the best, for a while at least. We get some good Hawkeye out of it too
>>150997873mind=blown!
And now for some comics I'm not sure a many have read>>150997887Well then why didn't Marvel just make a new, authentic, team as endearing before this?
>>150997855>>150997873No joke, one of the best bait and switches in comic history.
>>150997920Hey they're authentic, they just don't know it yet
>>150997163It is hard to look at this fight and not remember one which happened/will happen where RM just disables Spider-Man's powers because they are radioactive in nature.
Mr. Fude? Really?
>>150997938>The bit of costume peaking out from the photographer's sleeve.Holy shit, Peter Parker is Spider-Man!
Unless this guy ends up being right I'm sure the point to padding out the story with these pages
>Dailly
>>150998275"Jigsaw" Jameson's on the loose again.
Chuck, you were pretty cool in the first issue...
>>150997927>Zeb WellsThat guy is that old?
Some blatant classism isn't something you always get
Holy shit, I can't believe it. A post with MJ on the thumbnail and Gwen-schizo didn't even post once? Maybe he really is gone.
Would you leave it, /co/? Could you?
>>150998440I don't want to think about it.
Oh sneaky sneaky
The amount of white on this page contrasting all the very black pages is something
I love how Ben plays hardball
WhewThat was a long oneNot bad thoughTomorrow we'll make it back to an single issue of an actual mainline spider-title
>>150998800Thanks for storytiming, Magister!
>>150998800Thanks Magister. Next time we'll finally acknowledge the whole dead brother and daughter thing Peter's got going on
>>150999098Maybe!
>>150997078People should do more with it. And I don't mean more of MJ having prequel run-ins with Spidey (maybe some fanservice is ok but not much) but more like stuff where MJ is growing up in high school in a world with heroes as events happen and maybe some civilian stories of mutants appearing, technology changing, and normal everyday drama. Maybe these could be contrasted with like Mayday and her new problems in that same but different world. Yes I want more Mayday and a Spider-Girl book.>>150997136Brevoort has always had abysmal taste regarding Spider-Man. No surprise there, with the walking fedora.>>150997841Bagley spidey :)>>150997855Moments like this are where I feel like I would be inept if I was making a comic. Because I can see the construction of the scene, where the eyes flow from panel to panel and I would want to preserve each dramatic part of the reveal when you flip the page because I'd get worried that you'd immediately look at the mask instead of going panel to panel and then arriving at the bottom of the page. But that would be glacial pacing and you just gotta trust the reader.
>>150999189Not really related to what you are talking about, but it is interesting how Citizen V probably changes the least from the outfit of Baron Zemo compared to the others. Like obviously there is a cape, but his main color is still purple and he has big contrasting shoulder pads that mirror the fluffy things of the original.
>>150999979I think they probably use that later right? Like in one of those split down the middle images with the one costume on one side and the other on the other side?
Would any of you guys say Oliffe is underrated? Or would you say he got the right amount of work and popularity he got? I really like his art.
>>150997043thanks anon.
>>150998314yeah he's been a fill-in writer for a long time and his stories are good reminders why
>>150997873They are still incredibly charming afterwards. At least until Avengers/Thunderbolts.
>>150997841Oh, Speedball...
>>150997047>>150997058you'd imagine that MJ learning about this would happen at the end of the issuebut I think it works since the issue is all told from MJ's POV
