Chuck Dixon is The Legend. He is one of the most prolific comic book writers having done lengthy runs on Batman, Punisher, Robin, Nightwing, G.I. Joe as well as working on storied IPs such as The Simpsons, The Hobbit, and Wheel of Time. He’s also one of the creators of Batman villain Bane.On top of his comic work, Dixon has also penned a number of novels including his Levon Cade series, which was recently adapted into a live-action film by David Ayer in A Working Man.He spoke with Fandom Pulse about the decline of mainstream comics, James Gunn’s DCU, his Rippaverse work, and more.Fandom Pulse (FP): What are your thoughts on Absolute Batman artist Daniel Warren Johnson depicting Batman seemingly killing an ICE agent?Chuck Dixon: It’s appalling.It cynically uses an iconic superhero in support of a radical political view. It’s an artist who is hot, at the moment, using up his good will to push his ideology and make some quick cash. It is a violation of everything Batman stands for. Batman stands for the rule of law and he does not kill. It’s wrong from start to finish.And for those of you who would argue, “But this is Absolute Batman!” It’s Batman. You don’t mess with a legacy character like this. Working on maybe the most famous fictional character ever created comes with some responsibility.FP: What happened to the comic book industry where attacking law and order as well as truth and justice is commonplace?Chuck: It all started in the 2000s when the professional comics editors left the business and a crowd of indifferent tourists took over. They cared about the playlist on their phone more than the quality of the comics they were supposed to be overseeing. This created a vacuum and the the Left rushes in to fill any void left open to them. The way Satan exploits a human flaw or mosquitos find the tiniest rip in the tent fabric.
>>151007813>old man yells at cloud
>>151007819BASEDBOY disregards the opinion of a veteran because Muh Politics, i ain't republican, cause I hate them too, but fuck you
FP: DC Animated just announced they are doing an animated adaptation of Knightfall? Are you involved in this project at all? What are your expectations for it?Chuck: I’m as involved as you are.The animation people keep the original creators at arm’s length.Frankly, I expect it to be meh. The chump change check they’ll send us should pay for some groceries.FP: What are your thoughts on James Gunn’s DC Universe vision now that he’s released Superman, Peacemaker Season 2, and Creature Commandos?Chuck: I think it’s over for him. Superman failed no matter how you look at it. If it was a Hawkman or a Martian Manhunter movie he might have escaped the hammer that’s about to drop on him.But he failed to even break even on a Superman movie. When you have all the good wishes that come with the world’s most famous superhero on your side and fail to make a profit it’s bad. Real bad.The lack of renewal for Peacemaker is a sign. He will not be a part of the DCU (if there even is a DCU) after the upcoming sale of Warners.FP: Rippaverse announced Horseman #2 about two months ago, can you tell us a little about it?Chuck: Well, Hector’s continuing origin goes on. I left him in a bad place at the end of #1 and it’s only going to get worse. The Horseman is a continuously deconstructing plotline where you can never be sure what’s going to happen next.And this current storyline ties into the events of the next Alphacore arc. But they can each be read as standalones.FP: What other plans do you have in the works at Rippaverse?Chuck: More Hector. And a new Zalen GN next year.Rippasend will also be releasing the long-awaited 7 Deadly Sinners by me and Bob C. Hardin in the coming months.
Guy who can't get a job anymore whining about the people doing the job he wants
>>151007813source ?
>>151007813>The way Satan exploits a human flaw or mosquitos find the tiniest rip in the tent fabric.Oh good lord he's gone Fundie hasn't he?
>>151008141Have you never head of Fandom Pulse ?
>>151007813Comics died because you have two companies spamming the same genre and the same characters for 80 years, and it is boring and not applicable to interests now. And that is the entire American comic book industry outside IP adaptionsFor comics to not die off, DC and Marvel need to die off. Capeshit as a genre has to die off. And I do not think this Chuck guy gets it
>>151007881He got to do a Bane Miniseries after the 2016 election but unfortunately fucking Alt Hero paid better
>>151007838Well, he's kinda biased, tbf.
>>151008185>Comics died because you have two companies spamming the same genre and the same characters for 80 years, and it is boring and not applicable to interests nowYou can literally get into comics and not touch Marvel, DC, or licenseshit at allYou have options if you actually bothered to look
>>151008185Sneeding, i see
>>151007813>Batman stands for the rule of law and he does not killHow many dirty cops has Batman fought again?
>>151007853>But he failed to even break even on a Superman movie. When you have all the good wishes that come with the world’s most famous superhero on your side and fail to make a profit it’s bad.The fact he can say this without acknowledging why people might not like America or its icons right now says a lot
>>151007813>*bla bla bla right wing mouth-farting*Just die already will you Chuck? I'm sick of your kind using up perfectly good air. >>151007838>i ain't republican, cause I hate them tooLiar.
>>151007813>It’s an artist who is hot, at the moment, using up his good will to push his ideology and make some quick cashLMAO
>>151007813>Batman stands for the rule of lawDidn't Dixon write Nightwing: The Target where Dick masks up and commits criminal obstruction in his own murder investigation?Didn't Dixon write parts of Bruce Wayne: Murderer where he does the same thing for Batman?Old man is just salty his favorite Robin got gayed up.
>>151007813>It’s an artist who is hot, at the moment, using up his good will to push his ideology and make some quick cash.- Chuck Dixon, irrelevant writer using up whats left of his career to do an interview for a website no one has ever heard of
>>151008185I wonder how they will be affected once these heroes start hitting the public domain.
DWJ lives in ChicagoI think he has every right to be pissed at ICEGranted if I was in charge, I would still give him a warning over using a DC character in that way but not outright fire him like what people speculated (or that bs /co/ leak said that morons here ate up) and would rather just wait it out
>>151008471The problem is that even if Superman enters public domain, the supporting cast and additional powers or added lore won't be until MUCH later
>>151008323The whole interview is at odds with his own works at DC.
>>151007813Dixon was only good on The Punisher.
>>151008641He made fun SpongeBob and Simpsons comics
>>151007813Holy fucking illiteracy. Return to middle school English, dumbass zoomer.
>>151007838haha whoa!
>>151008185No, Comics die because capitalism and companies who are buttkicking investors and shareholders.
>>151008235>The fact he can say this without acknowledging why people might not like America or its icons right now says a lotAlways that excuse. No, people just weren't into Superman. He's not a big draw. Not because of politics, but because he isn't that cool. He ain't Spidey or Batman.
>>151007853>Suddenly transforms into advertisment.What a weird twist?Ok, this is now a snake thread!
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Buy an ad OP if you want to shill your culture war slop farm blog.>>151008416Someone keeps copy pasting that substack blog here and it's all the same miserable culture outrage farming you see everywhere by parasites hoping to go viral.
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>>151009137>miserable culture outrage farming you see everywhere by parasitesGo on, call him a grifter too while you're at it. It won't change the fact that pop culture is in freefall and has been for 15+ years. Anyone who's happy about the state of things is mentally ill.
>>151007838Veteran? What branch of the Military did he Serve in?>>151009050You can make Superman cool but you have to go back to the Fleischer Superman. A force of Good with a little bit of edge and a lot of action. The Gunn Superman is polarizing because it's to vastly different takes of Superman crammed it to one. It new 52 Superman, begging of Superman's career, and All Star Superman, end of Superman's career. Both are from Grant Morrison and yet All Star is well regarded while in New 52 most people think is poor. That explains the polarized audience.
>>151007813>It all started in the 2000s when the professional comics editors left the business and a crowd of indifferent tourists took over.
>>151008174should I have?
>>151009112Do you honestly think anyone is gonna have any kind of interview unless they can plug their own shit. I agree with some of his points but it's scams and self promotion all around.
>>151007838>i ain't republicanYou sure ain't from around here, for sure.>>151008226Can't vouch for cops, but Batman's definitely fought mercenaries and militias causing unlawful mayhem on the streets of Gotham.
>>151007813All political wars aside, I don't think any faithful version of classic Batman would approve of ICE's methods, there is no need for this excess of force when you are still the world's most powerful country. They are just testing the waters to see how much people will allow themselves to be tread over as long as they put stars and stripes all over it and call it American.
>>151009557No not really. It a site dedicated to degrading mainstream entertainment in order to sell much poorer and less competently made right wing versions of the same entertainment. Which is why this article is prompting Rippaverse comics as it discusses Marvel and DC. To be clear, I'm saying this as a person who votes Republican.
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Chuck Dixon was a great idea guy. His actual writing? Average at best, but usually sub-par. Especially with his weird focus on female jealousy whenever he wrote women.
>>151007838Chuck Dixon has been a washed mess for years.
>>151009599Batman uses excessive force himself. Law enforcement isn't pretty.
>>151007813>Working on maybe the most famous fictional character ever created OPINIONS DISCARDED
>>151008488Lois will go public domain the same day Clark does. Metropolis as a city will as well. Normies are not going to care that the editor is George Taylor or that the paper is the Star, not the Planet, or some of those other specifics. A copy boy/cub reporter with red hair and a bow tie doesn't need to be called Jimmy Olsen, and Lex Luthor was already Lex by early 1940.All that said, it doesn't matter because Disney is not about to start producing "Superman" comics just because they 'could' - not when Warner Brothers (or whomever owns DC Comics at that date) still owns a legal and valid trademark and other rights on certain names and trade dresses, like the classic and well known "Superman" title design. What we'll see are cheap, low budget shit like The People's Joker and those awful Winnie the Poo horror movies, at most.
>>151007813Chuck's right about everything, keep seething faggots
>>151011719You're telling yourself to keep seething?
>>151011855Kek keep crying, you mad he called out your faggy little ideology?
>>151008141lol
>>151009539>He's right you knowName 10 examples of "indifferent tourists". Because plenty of the biggest 00s people most would name cut their teeth in the 90s. Name some actual examples that fit his gross generalisation. I'll wait.
>>151011987Kek, that's a lot of words to say you're telling yourself to keep seething
>>151008473Why? they're trying to save his city.
>>151007813Ridiculously based. I'm going to buy Rippaverse just because of this. >>151009599A faithful Batman IRL would've apprehended the criminals behind Hart-Cellar and blew the lid open on the 14th Amendment, getting it reversed.
>>151007813>Chuck Dixon is The Legend.
>>151009690> right wing versions of the same entertainmentSay no more. I'm sold.
>>151012972> Still better then anything zoomers have ever said
>>151013007>N-no U!Hella was one of the most unc characters to ever be created
>>151007813>Chuck DixonAny relation with President Nixon?
>>151013954Heard he was his cousin, twice removed
>Please read my shitty culture war outrage substack posts!Fuck off
>>151009483>The Gunn Superman is polarizingThere is nothing polarising about Gunn’s Superman. Conservatives are just snowflakes addicted to crying about everything
>>151007813What's up JDA ?
>>151012223Not him but all he has to do is post the milkshake picture or the X-Men writers summit picture. Indifferent millennial fuckheads replacing committed boomers the recession made too expensive isn’t a comics problem it’s a societal problem.
>>151014055So, just misogyny and racism?
>>151008141he made it up
>>151014077I'm the victim here!
>>151014061>I don’t like criminals >OH SO YOU’RE A RACIST lol
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>>151013047>one of the most unc characterswhat does that even mean? you can't just toss random slang words into a sentence and hope it makes sense.
>>151008185>So people will read my shitty books the most popular genre needs to die offGrim.
>>151008185Nothing is stopping people from not reading DC/Marvel/IP comics and instead reading original creator owner stuff.Yet for some peculiar reason people here just obsess over the big two and pretend they’re all that comic are
WARNING YOU ARE ON A SHILL THREADJon Del Arroz aka Daniela Acera is a wife beating furry with an alternate female persona who runs the site Fandom Pulse this is a shill thread for this site
>>151009584Not when they want to place an opinion or get cloud. You can do it more subtil but i guess the Rippaverse is so unknown you need a peomotion hammer.
Dixon's mostly right, but for criticizing writers for injecting their politics in their narrative. He didn't have any problem with injecting his own politics into his stories.
>>151014365Based and redpilled. Thank you for letting me know that John Del Arroz aka Daneila Acera who runs the site Fandom Pulse is a wife-beating furry and a shill who larps as a woman.
>>151014055Writers summit is 2010s. We're talking about 00s. There is a difference. Chuck claimed that 00s was taken over by indifferent tourists. Someone said that's true. So I want confirmation, which editors were indifferent tourists? Who? How can they be proven to be tourists? It's easier in today's society to talk about vague generalisations. I just want something more.
>>151014701>It's easier in today's society to talk about vague generalisationsCaring about details is woke /s
Knightfall is overrated, cringy slop. Robin: Year One is amazing though, beats the dick off the current version by Mark Waid
>>151009483>Veteran? What branch of the Military did he Serve in?don't ask, don't tell
>>151008886Same as everything else, really. The fucking *US Military Industrial Complex* is falling apart because our weapons manufacturers are more interested in stock dividends than making missiles, to the point that we have an alarming munitions shortage despite the fact that we pay them 1 trillion dollars a year to do so. The system is fucked from top to bottom these days.
>>151007813>>It’s an artist who is hot, at the moment, using up his good will to push his ideology and make some quick cash.You just described yourself you giga retard
>>151015130The reason you have shortages is because under Trump you wasted tons of missiles that each cost million dollars to make on attacking Hutis and Iran. And the US has also sent a lot of stuff to Israel and Ukraine in the past four years. AllThe while most of US weaponry is so advanced that it actually takes a long time to build, because the US hasn’t actually been in active open war in years so military armaments production capabilities haven’t been needed to churn a lot of product at breakneck speed.
>>151014963Knightfall itself is a perfectly fine story. KnightQuest is where it started dragging on, KnightEnd was eh.
>>151014963>Robin: Year OneOverrated.
>>151007813Chuck Dixon an alright writer but like he was no Alan Grant on Batman but I'm just tired of seeing him whining everywhere and be treated like a legend by grifters, he a solid jobber.
>>151007853Why did these people do such a 180 on James Gunn? I remember they use to jerk him off saying he the only good thing about Marvel.
>>151007813>Chuck Dixon is The Legendno he isnt. hes a fucking b lister that you put on a tertiary book to just get it out on time and semi-competent that you dont really care if it is good or bad - just that its published. also, he just does AI writing and comics now. The French Baron is literal AI art where the characters change from panel to panel for armor or the type of cross on the knight armor and 6 fingers on people, etc. Just literal slop from a shit creator.
>>151014823>/sKill yourself immediately
>>151014365All that's left of /co/ is coomer, /pol/, shill, and Twitter and YouTube threads.
>>151008310NTA, but it's balls out retarded to think that everybody that hates the degradation of society is a Republican, religious, or even right wing. I am about as far left economically as one can be, but I despise faggotry and tranny shit. Especially in comics.
>>151017759>Look bro, I’m economically a communist and socially a bigotCongrats?
>>151017015Well that’s not fair. Chuck was popular enough writer and even headlined a Batman crossover event. He’s a has been now
>>151017795Oh no. You called me a bigot. How will I ever recover? The point is that if you think Republicans are your only adversaries, you're wrong. Republicans are limp wristed faggots themselves. They won't be the ones to line you up against the wall.
>>151017906Oh I’m sorry for triggering you, buddy.
>You don’t mess with a legacy character like thisLol
>>151014345It's basically the dumbest argument indie people make. Even leaving aside the Comicsgate and Comicsgate-adjacent it was a mentality that was around as far back as the 90s. The reality is that if Marvel and DC went away most people still wouldn't read some of these indies. The ones that do get read usually know how to get their book promoted and/or have an appeal to a wider audience. It's fine to write for a niche audience but you shouldn't be pretending your audience would be any larger if Marvel and DC went away.
>>151017015A Bullet for Bullock was such an instant classic that the TAS crew made an adaptation immediately.
>>151007813He's deranged
>>151018063>The reality is that if Marvel and DC went away most people still wouldn't read some of these indies. A bunch of modern creators want the comic shop model to burst because they'd rather sell to the book market. The comic book shops are dinosaurs to them full of old white men. The book market has completely different measures of success. Selling thousands of books to be a success, books being able to sit on shelves longer and less creative pressures or turn arounds.In the 2010s a bunch of Marvel books were massively pushed in the YA book market and gave this false positive they they could be successful. Ms Marvel first TPB sold very well but with a very high drop off post the first TPB. Her books routinely went below usual cancellation levels and she's become a tool of MCU synergy as well as killing her off and now pushing her heavily with the X-Men.They simply want comic book shops to die because they think their work will do well in the book market. But like you say, a big portion of Marvel and DC fans will never pick up their books anyway. The problem is these markets and things are not always the same audience and the industry gets confused with that.
>>151019054/co/ is never willing to admit the market is part of the problem because it is so much easier to blame others
>>151012246Don't you have a deportation coming up, Pablo?
>>151018131No shit, that was his? Top 5 contender for me, after stuff like Dreams In Darkness, Perchance to Dream and other such masterpieces
>>151018549Coming from the cult of people who want to legalize genital mutilation, that means nothing.
>>151016154It so happens I read it recently in anticipation of this week's finale of Waid's mini-series and I respectfully disagree.>>151015307You are correct, I should not have been so dismissive in my original comment. This place grows on you
>>151019329Waid's never written a anything good
>>151017352:L
>>151019329>This place grows on youIt grows in you, like a tapeworm. Good on you for for acknowledging your overeagerness.
>>151019363What about 52?
>>151013047If I was your Uncle I would whip you with a belt, then make you sort two five gallon buckets filled with different sized nuts and bolts into labeled mason jars in my tool shed.>>151014365Men should be able to physically discipline their wives and children.>>151017759> as far left economically as one can be, but I despise faggotry and tranny shit.That's National Socialism. Congratulations, and welcome to the Nationalsozialisten, fellow Parteigenosse.
>>151007819Said anon sarcastically, as sales hit the floor.
>>151007813and yet he's never written a good comic book, crazy
>>151007813>You don’t mess with a legacy character like thisisn't this the guy who crippled Batman and replaced him with a murderous lunatic
>>151019663The message of that story was "a Batman who's too edgy is bad."
>>151007819It's not even that, it's old man yelling that comics aren't conservative power fantasies.
>>151012270They're doing a horrible job of it. Real criminals know to lay low and not get caught. ICE are just going after random people on the street.
>>151019874They came here illegally so they are criminals, hope this helps!
>>151007838Why would his opinion matter? He was part of the problem that led to the decline in mainstream comics.
>>151019663He’s the guy who kept writing Green Arrow so gay that he eventually had to write an entire miniseries where he made Connor sleep with Shado just to prove CONNOR IS NOT GAY
>>151020422You pirate comics and cartoons so it’s okay to disappear you to a foreign gulag
>>151017759You got what you voted for, retard.
>>151007813>guy who wrote and edited billions of stories about guys who heroically obliterate purse snatchers with bombs and guns angry that a comic artist drew something radical or politicalIts like when Ennis complained about captain america devaluing real war when he writes the punisher. That doesnt make a joke of police work?
>>151020627>respecting cops
>>151020627>equating cops with combat veteranslmao
>>151020627Ennis has a problem with Cap because WWII wasn't won by some superhero, and he thinks it disrespects the efforts of the actual men involved. Frank may be a participant in real world conflicts but as skilled as he is, he's still just a guy, not a supersoldier, he was just a regular guy in Nam, same as Fury in all the wars he fought in.
>>151020742also Ennis clearly takes a fairly dim view of the CIA meddling he inserted Fury into
>>151020769Tom King would burst into tears if he saw what Ennis had to say about our interventionalism
>>151008185Comics died because decompression combined with price increases made them not worth reading while editors and writers have no respect for continuity or consistent characterization because everyone is looking to build their brand so they can shill their creator-owned work in the hopes of landing TV and movie deals. Who wants to pay $5 to read a Spider-Man comic that takes 7 minutes to breeze through because nothing happens due to the story being horrifically decompressed and the character and book resembles nothing that anyone likes about Spider-Man or wants to read about?
>>151021042>Comics died because decompressionComics crashed in the 90s, like the culture was gutted. Over 50% of shops closed. As a great American pastime it was severely damaged.Decompression in the 00s actually helped comics recover back from the crash. Comics prior to the crash weren't exactly "single stories" since plenty of stuff had long ongoing arcs. The expansion of longer stories, different ideas and writing for the trades helped. Trades especially became a massive new revenue source.The truth is every time someone says, X killed comics, contextually that thing was important at the time BUT did have some entrenched problems.Anons bitch about the direct market and comic book shops but in their time they saved comics when the newsstand market became unsustainable. Without the direct market we wouldn't have had the growth and books of the 80s. But then that growth helped eventually cause the bubble and burst.For years people on /co/ used to bitch about Diamond distribution being the big problem in comics, before COVID and companies ditching it. But post crash Diamond was the only player in town and it's monopoly was allowed on this basis and it helped comics survive. >Who wants to pay $5Who wants to pay money when you can just watch YouTube for free or doom scroll social media.
>>151008310He's always been conservative but getting aged out of the industry seems to have made him bitter and quick to jump onto the grift train. The industry does have a problem with just throwing writers (and artists to a lesser extent) to the wolves once they hit 50 but not all of them turn into poitispergs like Chuck has done.
>>151021337It's honestly horrible, I get the industry wants new blood but it should never be at the expense of writers who got them to that point. You don't really see Garth Ennis or even Grant Morrison writing long running series for the big two anymore.
>>151021282Man from your perspective I really thought you were Gary from Nerdrotic but he is live on yt right now so I guess not. He is not that eloquent anyway
>>151021447I don't watch or know this person so I don't know if that is a criticism or a compliment. My point is simply that this shit is complicated and all these criticisms are usually something that at one point helped. It's super easy to criticise them out-of-context. Entrenched problems and systems aren't solved by one simple change.
>>151021558He is a rather famous youtuber who used to own a comic book shop in LA. No criticism was intended
>>151021737Ah fair enough, anon.
>>15101941652 is complete garbage.
>>151009483>The Gunn Superman is polarizingOnly to retards who unironically say "Empathy and kindness are stupid" but then start melting down because nobody wants to take the death of their golden calf calling himself an "activist" seriously.
>>151007813Shouldn't he be Dick Chuxon?
>>151014345Manga is doing recordsEurocomics are holding very wellIt is only the American industry that has collapsed. And the main difference between them is that the American industry is built solely on one tired genre
>>151022746>Eurocomics are holding very wellEurocomic sales are notoriously in the shitter compared to manga. In Europe, like with American comics, the only people still reading them are an increasingly aged and shrinking population.
>>151022746The kids moved on to Scholastic, As far as adult books go, superhero fans are keeping that industry alive, hardly anyone cares about Image, Dark Horse, and the smaller publishers.
>>151022699Or Duck Chixon?
>>151020524Unironically if there weren't any jews or foreigners comics would be affordable and fairly priced
>>151021282Probably the only time I kept up with comics and physically purchased them were the two brief stints when my local convenience store would get them and display them by the check out. I'd always be checking for new issues and buying them up. The second I had to drive to a town an hour away to go to an actual comic shop or buy a computer/subscription to read them I was done-zo. I got back into them with trade paperbacks but when I realized it wasn't like anime where the entire story would get collected in volumes and was just a random collection of popular runs/arcs I lost interest again until I figured out how to pirate them and could ensure I could read the entire story of I wanted to.
>>151022035White people make up 3% of the entire world's population. It's not our job to take care of the other 97% and we're entitled to having our own space. They have land, they have people. They can do anything we can do by themselves but they're too lazy or violent to do it so they come here with their hand out crying crocodile tears.
>>151021282>Anons bitch about the direct market and comic book shops but in their time they saved comics when the newsstand market became unsustainable. Without the direct market we wouldn't have had the growth and books of the 80s. But then that growth helped eventually cause the bubble and burst.A lot of the people who think they need to get rid of the direct market usually don't know why comics got into the direct market in the first place, and don't understand how the newsstand distribution works. There are some that are dumb and believe newsstand distribution only covers newsstands and don't understand newsstand distribution covers any place that sells periodicals (grocery stores, drug stores, convienence stores, etc). They would distribute to Barnes and Noble and other bookstores but only for the magazines as the books would be a different distributor altogether>Decompression in the 00s actually helped comics recover back from the crash. Comics prior to the crash weren't exactly "single stories" since plenty of stuff had long ongoing arcs. The expansion of longer stories, different ideas and writing for the trades helped. Trades especially became a massive new revenue source.This one I have my doubts about, but I'd have to go back and look into Comichron and Bookscan and all that. I believe there was a revived interest in comics during the 00s, but I don't know if decompression really helped much.
>>151021399Morrison recently said he isn't going to do a long run on a comic anymore; he's gotten older. Ennis probably could but there's very little for him to do at Marvel and DC for a long period of time. On top of that, Marvel in particular has gotten too tight with finances that a long run isn't really guaranteed unless they keep relaunching.
>>151024459No.We don't talk about HIM in this household.
>>151020742Frank also never wins his war and all he does is kill people. It doesn’t solve anything. New criminals just fill the void
>>151021399>You don't really see Garth Ennis or even Grant Morrison writing long running series for the big two anymore.Because they don’t want to, dumbass. They’re writing their own shit.
>>151025600Even The Slavers, the arc where Ennis said he was rooting for Frank the most reveals that even though he did a good thing by bumping off the traffickers, they're only part of the chain of command and that Viorica goes on but is still severely traumatized and "all she can do is live what life they left her"
>>151025613I'm sure they would if the Big Two actually offered good deals and more windows for creator owned properties. Vertigo is coming back but people realized long ago the independents are the better route to take. Big Two shafts the veteran writers routinely is what I was saying
>>151025643Grant and Garth both occasionally do stuff for DC and Marvel. They are simply not interested in doing long runs for them anymore when they can make their own stuff instead. Why would they relinquish their creator owned rights to WB/Disney to control when they don’t need the money?
>>151020786He would get PTSD and try to push it into a comic
>>151025017Of course there would probably be WAY less superhero comics to buy, to begin with, with barely any of the big characters.
>>151025600>it doesn’t solve anything. New criminals just fill the voidThere would be way more with the ones he franked.
>>151025613Ennis did that black label mini-series for Batman a couple of years back, Reptilian. I think it was meant to be a parody. I guess it had its moments
>>151025202Morrison did the definitive "long run" on Batman, he is probably the most influential writer of our times when it comes to that character if you also count his Arkham Asylum novel and how he fleshed out the character during his JLA run.Point is, I would not bother with anything else either
>>151027332>[Morrison] is probably the most influential writer of our times when it comes to [Batman]It's been Miller since the 1980s.
>>151027357They moved away from Miller during the 00s, the character is no longer the loner outsider guy who fights against authority and the complacency of his own people but rather an OP superhero dude like the rest of them, albeit in a cooler costume. Not much about current day Batman reminds me of Miller's character
>>151007813What is important about him?
>>151027357Miller in the 80s was the best, but subsequent writers didn't really stay on that route.
>>151027357>>151029701Miller defined post-crisis Batman with DKR and Year One. Yeah Morrison moved away from it, but then Snyder moved back with his New 52 run. King was a mix of both. Tynion, Zdarsky, and now Fraction, yeah they're post-Miller.
>>151007813Literally who
>>151008235Who gives a shit? You're right- Superman is an American mythological icon. Why does he need the validation of the rest of the world, which he is not for?>>151022035>erm its only to retards who i complain about on twitter for saying empathy is le weaknessGo back then. It's polarizing on this site, dipshit. That's what we're talking about.
>>151009483>It new 52 Superman, begging of Superman's career, and All Star Superman, end of Superman's career. Both are from Grant Morrison and yet All Star is well regarded while in New 52 most people think is poor. That explains the polarized audience.I agree that Gunn's Superman is a bad version of the character, but objectively the audience received it well and they have no mandate to change his character in any way. It seems even Gunn is more interested in Lex than him so expect less development going forward.I disagree that Gunn's Superman is a 'fusion' between Morrison's two Supermans though. Gunnman is more naive than even teenage New 52 Clark was, and is much more down to earth in his kindness than even the fanon version of All Star Supes. He is especially dissimilar to the Silver Age Superman, and anyone who says he acts like that version has never read Silver Age Superman. Gunn's Superman is Byrne. When Snyderfags say 'Snyder is the blueprint!' pointing out the iconographic similarities between Snyder and Gunn's Superman they actually mean it's Byrne. Both took their Krypton from Byrne (MoS had the weird artificial breeding and the Els as rebellious aristocrats, S25 took from the musing that Kal would conquer Earth that that's what they wanted) and their Lex (BvS just updated him to Zuck instead of Trump, S25's Luthor is all post crisis). Hell, Snyder's Els are more like Morrison's from ASS by far, while S25 can be seen as just an adaptation of Byrne's MoS #6.All the discussion about the actual influences and developments of these characters is vibe-based, done by retards who have neither read anything nor had any decent higher level humanities education. Fuck.
Every threadWhy are they like this?
>>151023567Scholastic sells because of being able to market their product directly in schools via book fairs under the guise of "promoting literacy" and shit. When you have direct access to the little bastards, it's easy to get them to buy your product.
>>151027332The most definitive Batman writer since the '80s is actually Waid simply because Tower of Babel is basically what birthed the "Batgod with time to plan" shit.
>>151031991That was downstream of Planman beating Superman with his plan in the final issue of DKR.
>>151031445>Xitter opinionsNeck yourself.
>>151007813>Batman stands for the rule of lawStarts off a bit clueless.>the Left rushes in>Satan exploits There you go. This idiot has been feeding off YouTube schizos for years now, and it shows. Why are online though guys now pearl-clutching little bitches now? Just look at /pol/ and MAGA.
>>151032490>though guys
>>151031139>Why does he need the validation of the rest of the world, which he is not for?Because huge, worldwide-released movies need to make money off the whole planet, you donkey.
>>151031139>It's polarizing on this siteEL OH ELEL LAH MAY OH
My GOYSLOP is WOKE??? COULD IT BE? No, no, no, no, no.... NO! DAMMIT!!!!MainstreamSISTERS.......... is it over at last.......?
>>151032490Ultimately they enjoy being victims and seeing the world against them because it allows them to rationalize things not going their way, even when they're supposedly winning.
>>151032490Batman is personal friends with the police commissioner and he supports the system, even when that system keeps letting the worst people he's ever captured go free. He just goes and captures them again. Yes, he's for the rule of law.
>>151032490Most stories only posit that corrupt people in the power structure are wrong, but never that the structure itself needs uprooting/reform. Police is always just ,there can only occassionally be bad cops. Same way the superhero is just, but some of them may turn evil.There's one batman story that doesn't do that and everyone loved it. The Dark Knight Returns.Really goated, and i love ow it juxtaposes Superman as a well-meaning, but ultimately complacent cog in the system.
