Sometimes it feels like the only significant difference between indie cartoons and mainstream cartoons made in the last ten years is that indie cartoons are occasionally more vulgar.
They're not that similar. compare these. You can spot the indie animation from a mile away. The tumblr-dinergoth aesthetic has broken through the dam in the 2020s and it's a clean break from mainstream stuff that came before in both aesthetic and attitude. You can tell that love when into it
>>151010627>dinergothKill yourself.
>>151010683I mean it's the exact term for about half of ethos of indie animations in OP or at least their fanbases
>>151010701There will be no discussion with you. You are not someone who deserves to be taken seriously in a conversation, much less to live at all. I sincerely mean it: Kill yourself.
>>151010627>They're not that similar. compare these.It's not a good comparison because all of those shows in your pic are being animated by a singular animation studio, Bento Box
>>151010627Honestly, with the rest of these shows, I’m not surprised Hazbin came out so ass.
>>151010627“Stop trying to make fetch happen!”
>>151010863doesn't Bento Box also do Hazbin? And yet it's radically different in style
>>151011227Hazbin was created by a musical theater dork, so it was doomed to be lame as fuck from the beginning. Musical theater is lame as fuck and the people super into it are lame as fuck. So the things they create will be lame as fuck.
>>151013153You have shit taste.
>>151010490Because most of these indie shows were made made by 1) former employees of professional animation companies, 2) friends of said ex-employees, regardless of professional status, and even 3) current employees of animation companies.
>>151013165Shut the fuck up, retard. After the pilot where Medrano basically said "Nooo Moxxie your idea of making this show Splinter Cell is lame >:( I want improvisationn!!! I want gay drama!!" is exactly why Vivziepop and that baldfag American Dad alien shouldn't touch a script.
>>151013165Get Vivziepop’s dick out of your fucking mouth. You guys will defend her like she’s the fucking Virgin Mary.
>>151013153I can enjoy some musical theater, though. Cabaret (1993) is my favorite musical.Team Starkid’s musicals are on point.I even enjoyed In the Heights with fucking Lin-Manuel Miranda.The songs from Hazbin are the most recycled shit.
>>151014672All of which are also 4) Internet freaks cross-pollinating their incestuous influence
>>151010490Because most indie shows are heavily inspired by the cartoons their creators used to watch and be influenced by.
>>151010490There are still major differences, but indie is closing the gap. A lot of mainstream people went indie and took what they learned in the industry to their own personal projects. Hence why most indie isn't just some shitty flash animated cartoon like it was 20 years ago.
>>151010490Indie just refers to where the money comes from. The makers are still likely attempting to be on par with mainstream.It was better when people just made a cartoon and put it online, no "indie", no "pilot", just "here's a thing I made".
>>151010627I still find it amusing how Charlie's style clashes so much with everyone else in this picture
>>151013165Found the lame as fuck musical theater dork.
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>>151014828> Hence why most indie isn't just some shitty flash animated cartoon like it was 20 years agoThe talent pool is also very different. 20 years ago, making anything animated was pretty impressive. Wacoms were expensive and cintiqs were a crazy investment. These days, the technology is cheap and accessible (prices came down and there are knockoffs, tablets, etc, more software that is cheap, free, open source, pirateable) as is the information on how to do it.
>>151013153>>151014694>>151014732>I think everything is shit! Am I cool yet guys? Do I fit in on 4chan? Will sharty welcome me with pellets?
>>151010490"Similar"?Oh right, they too have those cartoony humans, cartoony anthropomorphic animals and cartoony robots! It isn't indie unless it looks like "Sweet Cuppin' Cakes".
>>151010490Orange are characters i have never seen before, maybe i have seen a few of them some time but if i did i completely forgot.Yellow are characters i have seen before, i might have watched a bit of their shows but i do not know where they're form.Purple is the guy who's pilot i did watch but i forgot what it was.Green are characters i know of but i never watched their shows and i don't remember what they are.Pink are characters i have never seen before but i think i know where they're from but i can't be too sure, i assume Lackadaisy.So, how are these characters?
>>151015359That purple goat guy to the right of Pombi is from Billie-Bust-Up, I think?The studio got canceled because I’m pretty sure they defended BlackGryph0n who has some allegations. His name is familiar because he was the Alastor’s singing voice on the Hazbin Pilot.
>>151010490One thing that always grinds me the fuck out about this current "indie animation" wave is that NONE of them have a serious straight adult male as the protagLike just a single dude in his 30s or 40s would be enough, but everyone looking like they came out from the exact same ethnostate of Tranny Tumblr and Twitter usersSpace King is quite possibly one of the few things in this scene that might be appealing to a guy well past his 20s and that's a fucking parody of 40kWhere is the variety? All I see is just females, numales and children.
>>151015359Oh good. Look everyone, it’s Jake making sure to tell everyone that he has no idea what the fuck he’s talking about. Everyone say hi to Jake and make sure to praise him for blessing us with his presence. Jake has no experience or expertise to speak of which is why it’s important that he namefags and tripfags. Otherwise dastardly villains would try to impersonate him and besmirch his otherwise nonexistent reputation.
because this is the only trash you actually watch, if it's different, you will screech like the manbaby you are. survivorship bias
>>151015647I mean, Lackadaisy?I’m pretty sure Ricky’s straight. Even though he’s a cat.
>>151015359Orange L to R - Ollie & Scoops, no idea, Ramshackle, Far-fetchedYellow L to R - chucky chicken, Billie Bust up, litter box, port by the sea Purple - far fetched again. You didn’t watch that Pink L to R - dungeon flippers, Lackadaisy Now fuck off. Go get a job.
>>151015622The crew from Billie bust up largely went to far fetched which has its own drama. I feel like that whole group is a bunch of toxic drama queens.
>>151015647Because the people largely donating to projects are women and gays.
>>151015793Yeah, but BlackGryph0n has some allegations on him.
>>151015622>>151015737Thanks. I got some cartoon to watch and rewatch.
>>151015878And yet the only person directly involved in the potential allegations (now his wife) has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing on his part, so this is another case of fedora-wearing white knights trying to fight for someone who doesn’t want their katana-wielding help.
>>151015898I thought you were going to talk to your parents and Jesus about your finances and maybe sell some more switch games? Watch fewer cartoons, post less, and start interviewing. Jesus helps those who help themselves.
youtube shit aren't cartoons
>>151015940Yeah, but even so, I’m not gonna touch anything until the allegations are put to rest.
>>151015654“Jake” is a literal schizo who thinks that God wants him to post on 4chan. His tripcode is also associated with the following names:> Jake, DDAnon, anomaly homebody somebody sirius draco, Carl Angelo, Carl Angelo Belarmino (Almighty Father Theos), carl, Angelo, Carl Angelo Belarmino, AlmightyFatherTheos, Carl B, Carl B slide, Q, DDDAnon, Freakshow, The(Drunk)CouplesTherapist, That Guy
>>151016008The “allegations” were brought against him by internet ‘tards. That will never be put to rest. Any legal action that could have been taken is outside the statute of limitations so this is all just a bunch of whiney internet idiots creating problems because they’re bored. Don’t avoid Billie bust up and far fetched because of the allegations. Avoid them because they suck.
>>151015264Y’all really think we just blindly hate on the fucking show, as if we don’t watch it ourselves.
>>151016042Yeah, but, which animated series *don’t* suck? Because I keep hearing damn near every Indie animated series sucks.
>>151015264I don’t think everything is shit. I just don’t like Hazbin. That’s allowed.
>>151015647Look man if anyone tries to deviate from what's popular they will suffer massivelyDespite what these people want you believe, unless your idea can attract the attention of the masses your shit will not fly, it will infact crash and burn so hard it will leave a scorched earth for everyone to see and take notes from
>>151016054/co/ is filled with people shitting on things because anger is addictive and arguing about things keeps threads alive longer than celebrating them. > I keep hearing damn near every Indie animated series sucks.Just watch stuff and for your own opinion, idiot. Your opinion will differ from other peoples’. Don’t wait for a general consensus that anything is good or you won’t watch anything. Pretty much the only show that /co/ seems to universally like (mainstream of otherwise) is Ed Edd n Eddie and the premise of the show is that 3 guys who have the same name enjoy jawbreakers.
>>151016183Ed Edd and Eddie was peak when I was little, I ain’t gonna lie.
>>151016202Yes, and?
>>151016216Nothing. But anyways, I see your point. I just haven’t really watched much cartoons in so long. I just wanna get back into enjoying some animation again.
>>151010490>Billie bust upGo to fuckin /v/
>>151010490Show me anything on TV that is anything like Lackadaisy.
>>151016240It usually takes a series a bit to find its footing. I usually try to check out 3 episodes. By then I’ll know whether I want to continue or if it’s not for me.
>>151016267Yeah, I can see that.But sometimes a show has a bad first season, and then the next season is like WAY better.
>>151010490All these bitches?My Whores.All these kids?My runts.All those soiboys?My bootlickers.Sources?Classified on a need to know basis.
>>151010490>Why are Indie Cartoons so Similar to Mainstream Cartoons?not skibidi toilet
>>151016183Toxic positivity is unhealthy.
>>151013153Musical theater dorks can make good shit, they just need to be reigned in by other writers.
>>151016408But the writers *are* the problem.
>>151015957Oh i agree. Like i said i am going to take a break from just /hyw/ but i also like to know what cartoons to watch as we watch them together as a family.
>>151016414And what a problem it is too.Like, good lord, I know everybody can write but that doesn't mean that they are competent, or experienced at all.
>>151010683>>151010815you're so cool and edgy anon. the little dinergoths all want to be like you when they grow up.
>>151016386I have no idea why you made that comment, but toxic anything is unhealthy. That's why it's toxic.
>>151016408>Musical theater dorks can make good shitno they can't
>>151010490I hate threads like this because it just reinforces my belief that anybody who discusses "indie" animation online only associates it with the most mainstream, kid-appeal shit. It's fast-food independent. Streets of Crocodiles would give an "indie animation" fan an aneurysm.
>>151018140I wish there was more edgier R-rated indie projects that felt more like Heavy Metal or even Dorohedoro in terms of a violent grundgy slaughterhouse vibe. Something really exploitative
>>151018227There are dammit, the issue is they get buried under a magnitude of slop. If you want it, you're going to have to look for it. Which isn't easy to do considering how insular animation discussion is online. I'm sure you've seen Mad God, so for recommendations, try City of Rott or Seoul Station, they're both on Tubi. Not what I think you're looking for, but they're closer in spirit than the goddamn Digital Circus. Anything by M Dot Strange (Heart String Marionette, We Are The Strange) might be up your alley, too.
>>151018140You're either a student, were recently a student, or pretentious as shit. I love the Brothers Quay. I own collections of their stuff on dvd and went through a puppet making phase directly influenced by them and the eastern european masters who influenced them. That said, "Streets [sic] of Crocodiles" is from the '80s. If you want to play that "mainstream" card, the Brothers Quay did a fuckload of animations for MTV back in the day too and as far as stop motion animation went, were pretty big names in America aside from corpo juggernauts like Rankin Bass. They've been hugely influential on everything from music videos for acts like Tool to the design of some of the toys at Sid's house in Toy Story. When people think of artsy stop motion, they're the first thing that most people envision. Nobody is arguing that the sum total of indie animation is what is happening now, but the conversation is being had in the context of the current zeitgeist. Independent animation is becoming a force majeure so it stands to reason that topics will largely revolve around what is current and leading the charge of that movement. You are free to bring up anything you'd like. If there are overlooked indie art shorts that you think are worth mentioning, drop some links. I love that stuff too. If you're going to get shitty about being mainstream, maybe dig a little deeper than the most popular film from an extremely popular animation duo.
>>151018227You can find it, but you'll have to dig. Look at the films that are being screened at places like ANNECY, OIAF, Animafest Zagreb, AniFilm, etc. Also look at student films. You'll find films that broach topics of sex/drugs/violence more from euro films. A lot of the works coming out of Goeblins might hit the mark. If you live in a bigger city, also find your independent film theater and keep an eye on listings. A lot of these films don't tend to have a wide enough market to get wide mainstream theatrical releases, but are too explicit to be on streaming services like Youtube. There was an animated short called "Vulvine Reine d'Extase" which, for awhile, could only be viewed on pornhub due to it's content, however it was even banned from there too since a child was depicted at some point in the film (in a non-sexual context).
>>151018227I thought about doing something like that myself, but things change, what the masses want changes and i'm apart of it, this is why i have decided to rework my concept and i'm a lot of other people with concepts and ideas feel the same.I'm not saying you're wrong to like that stuff, i'm just saying the people who want that stuff isn't enough to profit off of such material.
>>151010627>dinergothRob...
Dinergoth is the new Hal vs Ben 10. One faggot trying hard to create a meme but only managing to piss people off.
>>151018710>I thought about doing something like that myselfJake, you have never in your life actually created anything. Thinking about doing stuff is super easy. Actually doing it is the hard part. Keep LARPing.
>>151018780Is it a reference to goths who hang out at diners? Because I'm an old fag and I gotta say...the whole club thing came later. The original goths definitely spent time smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee at diners at 3am.
>>151018893Why are you stalking me? Why do you insist on bring /hyw/ drama into other threads?And yes, i have created concept artwork for the very project i am talking about, i posted it on 4chan a lot even on /hyw/, it's just not a good drawing.I even wrote synopsis, backstories, lore and dialog for the project as well, but like i said, i am reworking it.
>>151018780Never heard of Dinergoth before, what is it?
>>151018441Damn, honestly I feel humbled. I've always been pretty pretentious, I'm into vintage/foreign animation, but it's all (or was, at some point) "mainstream" vintage/foreign. Söyuzmultfilm, Pannonia, Les Armateurs, etc. Obscure by the standards of this board, which I think has given me a big head. I like the work of Phillipe Grammaticopoulos.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m3IrXiPmaQk
>"No guys this indie cartoon is different!">always something made more than 20 years ago
>>151010627>>151019079Some B.S. term for something that doesn't exist. Someone said it's for an apparent subculture of people who "go to raves in the Midwest then go to eat at diners afterwards." This doesn't exist. There aren't raves in the Midwest and if there are goths they don't go to raves. If anything, what they're trying to scratch at is that subgenre of people that live in small Midwestern towns filled with farmers and/or hunter/outdoorsmen types that wear flannel or camouflage as part of tbeir regular 24/7 clothes and you'll always inexplicably see 1-2 random people in theae areas dressed in some insane cringe scene/emo/goth type of fashion they got at Hot Topic or Spencer's and spend most of their time in their room drawing Invader Zim Hurt/Comfort type fanart, watching anime, and listening to things like Dot Dot Curve, JJ Demon, and Blood On The Dancefloor but they don't know how to describe that so they're using some braindead term that only makes sense to major metropolitan types in coastal cities that don't understand how the real world works.
>>151019747>spend most of their time in their room drawing Invader Zim Hurt/Comfort type fanart, watching anime, and listening to things like Dot Dot Curve, JJ Demon, and Blood On The DancefloorNobody has done this for over ten years now.
>>151019804Bro is making up people to be mad at
How come she never gets brought up with the rest of these indie shows?
>>151019747The type of "goth" that you're describing is just typical teenage rebellion which goes hand in hand with the "punk" phase that teens go through. The specific thing you're describing doesn't even exist anymore. That was a thing in the 90s, 00s, and maybe early 10s, but gamer and e-celeb culture kind of took over. Diners are one of the few places that are open 24/7, so as much as the term "dinergoth" may be an attempt to perjoratively describe someone, I'd argue that any self-respecting goth would have spent some time drinking coffee at a diner in the middle of the night writing shitty poetry or something.
>>151020478because the show is on indefinite hiatus
>>151019747>There aren't raves in the Midwest and if there are goths they don't go to ravesThere isn't a rave in a region of 70-million people that includes Chicago? You're retarded.>goths don't go to ravesYeah they do
>>151010490YouTube is the only platform where an indie could hope to get a sizable number of views without having to go through the network or streaming system and its still very restrictive and given how hard it is to do big art fast these people still have to work with the faggots in the industry because the industry is rigged by and for faggots because of jews.You want to see raw male creativity look up donpbongwater, tamers12345/official or MurdochMurdoch these guys are all getting banned because society is so fucking awful men with any awareness of it fucking hate it and are too smart to fall for useful idiot traps like communism that try to sell forced integration as an "oppressive capitalist" policy like suburbs exist for any reason besides being separate from homo commie nigger kikes
>>151019747So basically dinnergoth are people who don't exist, or is the term used to describe something that doesn't exist> Or maybe that latter interpretation is being too generous.
>>151022063>donpbongwaterAI>tamers12345Deliberate ugly MSpaint.>MurdochMurdochTweened wojaks and photomorphs.If this is the peak of "raw male creativity" then I'd rather we all just die.
>>151022446Hi there!You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
>>151022446Fuck off, namefag
>>151010490Everyone hears the word indie and assume it's something like underground comics or a arthouse scene where all the risky shit the mainstream is afraid to touch is gonna be popping up and if I'm being totally honest that is not the case.Like, you're not gonna get the Lars Von Trier of animation just walking onto the scene, dropping some crazy risky shit, and then walking away and it all has to do with one dirty little secret.Using Kickstarter as a market research. You see it all the time when in the last few days of a campaign, the donation money absolutely fucking skyrockets. Because there were already investors in talks to put their weight behind a project, the kickstarter was just a proof of concept that said project was something people were willing to put their money behind.Because of this, a lot of these indie animations are basically pre-focus tested but will still have a hidden group of execs, albeit more hands off than a studio production.
>>151023631Yeah, that was my holdup with Hazbin. I saw A24 Productions, and I thought “ah shit, this is gonna be a banger!” I thought this was gonna be some real philosophical, yet silly show. Real mind-scratching but still give a little chuckle.Boy was I wrong.
>>151019079Think of a midwestern fandom alt-fashion personFrom a dead region so their culture is all from onlineAmerica's future desu
>>151019620There's this: https://youtu.be/P8U22dvli4wThis one is older but I'm always surprised this M Dot Strange guy never did more. All I know about him is he did this and helped out with that one indie pilot that came out recently: https://youtu.be/2WMm7N1IthE
>>151019804>>151020293My little brother is dating one unfortunately they're still around
>>151023631Hey, person who has actually worked on several successfully crowdfunded indie productions here. What you're saying is complete horse shit. Campaigns tend to make most of their money at the beginning and end of the campaign. The beginning is because people (hopefully) get glamoured by the teaser materials, the ideas, and maybe the merch (although that tends to matter less than you'd think). The reason there tends to be a push at the end is that there are a lot of stragglers who hem and haw but then donate right at the end either because they want to help push the project over the finish line, they finally got paid from work, or because they have FOMO. Some superfans will actually donate more at the end even though they've already donated. There are no "investors". The idea is ludicrous as it would mean that they expect to see a return on their investment. This is a thing in mainstream hollywood films because those can actually turn a profit from box office sales, but there is no profit in indie productions. Everything goes towards making the thing. Most crowdfunds are poorly planned as creators forget to include taxes and platform fees, don't fully factor in production costs for physical merch, packaging, shipping, etc. They also tend to budget tightly which will get blown up when things inevitably go sideways and production needs to backpedal and fix something (which costs money). That's why you'll see continued merch sales because the crowdfund is almost never actually enough.
>DINERGOTH LOOK GUYS LOOK GUYS I LEARNED A NEW WORD FROM TIKTOK AINT IM SO HIP AND CORAL?
>>151025112oh, is it from tiktok? That would explain it.
>>151024968The term isn't taking off. No one but you and your faggot discord butt-buddies are using the term, and you never even use it sincerely. End your life immediately.
>>151010490They pull from the same mentally ill pool of 'talent'. If you're not fucked up like them; progressive, queer, cluster b, etc. You aint getting your show made.
>>151025262>They pull from the same mentally ill pool of 'talent'>TheyAnyone can make an indie production. There is no establishment. This sort of scapegoat worked when the only snowball chance in hell that you could make anything was by going through a mainstream network, but plenty of people are working on their thing on their own. Sublo & Tangy Mustard is essentially made by Aaron Long. He has a few friends help out on voices, but he does everything else himself. Pan made Loki IRL on his own. It took him like 10 years and he spent $15k on it which sounds like a good chunk of change, but spread out it's only $1,500 a year. Artists in general tend to be socially and fiscally progressive so you'll see more of them, but there's nothing stopping a conservative artist from making a show.
>>151025333>there's nothing stopping a conservative artist from making a show.Except money, which no one will give you if you're right of Vivzie.
>>151025259What the fuck are you talking about
>>151025363Stop playing dumb.
>>151025362so you're saying there isn't a demand for animation made by conservative artists?
>>151025333Most indie productions hire staff. Said staff is very progressive, if not outright mentally insane. These staff, will never work with an openly conservative creator. They will blacklist said conservative in secret. And any animator who accidentally works for a conservative, will also be blacklisted, not just in indie animation, but the entire industry as a whole. Movies, Music, TV shows too. Their networks extends far and wide. You will be blacklisted from working on kids shows and even preschool shows. You cant even work for politically neutral cartoons. You must be like them and work for those like them. If you do get blacklisted. Then you must prostrate yourself to the cause, make multiple public apologies and wait until somebody high up, decides to give you a pass. Not forgive you. They do not forgive. They will always use your past 'treason' against them and the cause, as political ammunition. Always. This type of behavior is eerily reminiscent of the politics in the chinese imperial court or communist/marxist societies.
>>151025413Not that Anon.From my experience, there is a huge, yet under served demand for 'edgy' and 'offensive' content. Circa late 90's and Early 2000's. But it is not being made for fear of offending the progressive shadow networks. If you want to know why? One Word: Obama
>>151025455>Most indie productions hire staff blah blah blahThey're just artists. Conservatives love to talk about how there are supposedly tons of conservative artists out there who have to pretend that they aren't because they'll get blacklisted, but the mainstream animation industry has completely imploded and a lot of animators are moving away from California and getting jobs in other industries. Surely if there was ever any time to come out of the woodwork, it would be now. It's hard to be blacklisted if there is no more industry to be blacklisted from. Aside from that, a lot of artists work under pseudonyms. Indie productions will tend to put out a call in their discord channel towards the end of production for people to list their preferred name and role. A lot of artists prefer to use their instagram handle artist name, or a nickname instead of their real name. There would be nothing stopping someone from using a handle that nobody else knows if they wanted to stay anonymous. And, as I'd already said, the other option is to DIY. Aaron Long makes Subly & Tangy mustard as a one man operation, Pan worked with a skeleton crew of mostly friends, and while some student films are gigantic productions, a huge amount of them come out every year that are basically done by one person. Your strawman isn't holding up.
>>151025493> there is a huge, yet under served demand for 'edgy' and 'offensive' contentbut apparently not huge enough for creators to decide to capitalize on it and not strong enough for those who want to see it be willing to donate to it. If what /co/tards are saying is true, conservative animators would have no hope of working in the industry anyway (even if jobs were available), so why not put their money where their mouth is and make the thing that apparently everyone wants?
>>151025403Take your meds
>>151025533I never said anything about tons of conservative artists hiding in the shadows. In my experience, most artists are politically apathetic and just trying to get their shows made. But they must tow the progressive line to do so. They can not be seen associating with someone deemed problematic by the progressive shadow network. They enforce the very rules that feed the beast, out of fear.>>151025560Platform censorship is a huge issue. Platforms like youtube, facebook, instagram, etc, will not tolerate anything that goes against the progressive agenda, unless legally obligated to do so. You can be edgy up to point. But nowhere near the level we were able to be, before obama took office.
>>151025533I don't think you can even post Stonetoss, Sinfest, Foxfort, or Alexopoulus on /co/ without you people having a meltdown even though they are literally comics, let alone on a more hugbox type platform. Eventually (and hopefully soon) someone will, though, and you people will prove your hypocrisy as you attack it with everything you have but God willing it won't work and we'll see a wind of change.>>151025616You have to go back.
>>151025734>Stonetoss, Sinfest, FoxfortNot that anon. I am not a fan of any of these comics, because their work is only using offensiveness as a form of bait, to draw people into sharing their political agenda.But I agree with your sentiment. It's very hard to post edgy and offensive media, without either being a conservative and/or outright nazi. I long for the days when you did not to be political to make edgy jokes. I personally am so sick of politics in my media, that if I even get a whiff of 'progressive wokeness' or 'pro trump maga shit.' I turn it off and tune it out. I just want to be able to say Nigger and Faggot and laugh about it, without some insane leftist trying to cancel me, or some nazi trying to recruit me. I'm not apolitical, I am antipolitical.
>>151015647Serial Designation N has a girlfriend, anon.
>>151022446>Look, mom! I've learned a new word!
>>151025677> not tolerate anything that goes against the progressive agendaYou wanna see who attended Trump’s inauguration? You seem to be bemoaning the fact that you can’t be hyper racist on those platforms. Is that what being a conservative is now?
>>151027198Better yet - almost all of US media are now towing the party line after falling in line. The fact that they are not 100% on board with Trump is exclusively due to him and his lackeys moving the overton window - like they did by locking news agencies (including Fox News) out of Pentagon.
>>151019069> i have created concept artworkThat’s it? Stop chiming in like you know anything, then. You don’t have a job. Maybe you’d get further with your idea if you spent less time posting on /co/.
>>151010683>>151010701>>151010815>>151018001Can someone remind me what to add to the filter to automatically hide any post containing a certain word?
>>151015647Why don't all the serious straight adult males band together and make their own indie animation series?
>>151026737He lets her peg him
It's like this because this is the kind of stuff people into cartoons want (and wanted) to make. The cope you always heard about execs being the reason everything was so lame and gay was always just a cope, the vast majority of western cartoonists post-2005 are just gay theater kids.
>>151015707>LackadaisyRocky is still protrayed as a bafoon who spergs out and has "edgy/psycho" moments, which feels like something mainly designed towards the tumblr crowd. >>151026737you're missing the point, N isn't serious or a character that appeals to normal guys at all
>>151010627Man, seeing this picture specifically make me want an art drawing of Charlie making out with Linda Belcher.
>>151028795If you have such specific ideas of what you want to see, then get to work. This is where inspiration comes from. People imagine something that they wished was real and then they start doing the work to make it happen.
>>151010490Glitch should do something based and throw some money at some more weirdo creators.
>>151029109They should team up with John F
>>151029109I don't know if your pic is supposed to be an example of one of those things, but the art looks like absolute dogshit.
>>151029332Seethe.
>>151015647Watch Hunter: The ParentingThat should fill the slot you're looking for
>>151029093Space king is already doing that work. I’m just saying that in general these shows appeal mainly to zoomer liberal women who take meds for depression
>>151030050Thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuESslb7nnEShit like this should be more recognized and common in the indie animation space
When will it be his time to shine? Why is the industry trying to block his craft from the mainstream?
>>151030537Dead meme
>>151015647Honestly spear from primal is the only solid example I can think of
>>151031484> Dead memeIt was funny until the hyper autists ran it into the ground. Now we have retards like >>151030537ensuring it will never be funny again.
>>151010627Oh, dear...
>>151030469>Space king is already doing that work.And yet you're still complaining about it. So either Space King is good enough, or if it isn't, then be the change you want to see.
>>151029780There's nothing to seethe over. I wasn't the one who made that dogshit.
>>151025533>It's hard to be blacklisted if there is no more industry to be blacklisted from.quite the opposite, what industry is left is now fully in the hands of people obsessed with social standing, so blacklists are going to get handed out like candy on halloween night
indie cartoons are shit I'd rather watch south park and family guy
>>151034395anon, you can't be blacklisted if there are no jobs to be blacklisted from. Getting work in the industry was already hard enough which meant that even in the best of times, there were reasonably talented people who probably weren't going to get a gig. Now those opportunities are even fewer. Just hit up Luke Weber. He's a trump-humper and seems to have plenty of spare time on his hands.
>>151029041Hope people would draw that desu.
Why do Glitch threads attract schizo posting from would-be ideas men?
>>151010490Those are just independent, not indie or underground.You put in the same bag:* Two literal ages 2 to 6 demographic franchises* Series may be a bit edgy or introspective but generally touching themes you'd see nowhere on Disney, Netflix or wherever.* A bunch of pilots that are *explicitly* aiming to break into the mainstream industry.Even then, you are not allowed to have people with shit lives or anything outside a toxic positive enviroment. See the Fionna & Cake series and contrast it with 1/3rd of the franchises here.
