Say what you will about Wish but he was a classic Disney Villain Star. We all have to agree on that.
no we don't
>>151012981Yes we do. You don't speak for /co/
>>151013362No but I do and he's a forgettable skidmark
Come on /co/, this is the gratitude he's shown?
>>151012971>Scar murdered his brother>Jafar wanted to brainwash Jasmine into being his sex slave>Maleficent cursed a baby>Cruela wanted to kill puppies for their fur>Ratigan was singing about drowning orphans>he broke a wish that could be replaced anywayThe one time they time to go back to classic villains the result was lukewarm and the story would be better with him being redeemable/having a point
>>151012971He wasn't though. He was a tragic character that got possessed by an evil book because of his insecurities which made his wife completely disregard any possibility of saving him from it.If Disney actually explored Rosas being a dystopia filled with passionless denizens, Magnifico could've been actually evil.
>>151013811>tragicExactly. Which one of classic Disney villains had a tragic backstory? They planned a one for Jafar, but they scrapped it because those villains were meant to be pure evil. Complexity came from their similarities with the protagonist, making them their dark reflection
>be powerful wizard king who suffered tragedy in the past>create a new kingdom you protect and nurture>even grant the occasional wishes for people> you don’t need to do it, it’s not like taking wishes is the source of your magic, you literally are doing it out of pure generosity>somehow you’re the bad guy because you dare to pick and choose which wishes to grantThey claimed to be going back to good old fashioned evil villains then ended up making the most sympathetic one they’ve done.
>>151012971he looks like the bad guy from Drawn Together
>>151012971Magnifico but gayer and sluttier
>>151013852they gave scar one, but that's the "live action" reboot -- iirc it's hinted at in the original cartoon but not explored
>>151012971Hell no, I consider the Heartless more of a “Disney Villain Star“ than Magnifico and they haven’t even appeared in a Disney movie. Yet.
>>151012971>Be Magnifico.>Homeland gets destroyed by war.>Create a refuge where everyone can live in peace.>No one has to pay taxes or rent.>Also grant one wish each month.>Be conscious that not every fancy wish is harmless.>Therefore be cautious what wish you grant.>Participants must be over 18 and give up their wish until it is eventually granted.>Bad and not so harmless wishes are stored safely while their original owners live free of the burden of their passion.>Quirky black girlboss is chosen as your apprentice.>Girl dips into nepotism 5 minutes into the job interview and faster than anyone before her.>Her grandfather's wish doesn't get granted cause he wants to inspire people with his music (to a rebellion).>Grandfather never bothered to learn how to play the lute anyway.>Girl gets angry cause she doesn't get the DEI treatment.>Girl gets help by a wishing star that can grant any stupid or harmful wish and likes to create chaos.>Girl wants to instate a magical communist regime.>Somehow you're the villain now.Yeah, sure, in my opinion Magnifico is the victim and Asha is the (human) villain, seduced by a wish granting trickster star boy.
>>151013935In his "Villain" song, he said he granted 14 wishes the previous year. That isn't stingy, that's fucking EXCESSIVE, I think 4 a year would be too much, but make sense for 1 a season, but 14!?
>>151012971The only villains were those behind this movie. The morality of this story was completely warped.
>>151014526>King makes a peaceful utopian kingdom>Some bitch under his employ demands special privileges, betrays him, takes over his work and banish him>All while the Kathleen Kennedy rebellion was happeningI think this is the first corporate "cry for help" i have ever seen unfoldedBut maybe im just overthinking this shit
>>151013362As the official spokesman for /co/ - I decree that you're full of shit.
>>151014022Don't recall the original movie hinting anything. Scar was just jealous and saw Mufasa as a brawl to his brain. He was the dark reflection of Simba who also initially felt entitled to the throne without any understanding of responsibility. And then Scar turned out to be an irresponsible ruler
>>151012971Fair
>>151014676Scar made a lot of bad policies, but he did end the hyena Apartheid.
I'm sure Hexed's "villain" will be worse
>>151012971No. He was the hero of the movie. He got corrupted and the real villain of the movie won, but that doesn't diminish the fact that he was a hero.
>>151012971>Say what you will about Wish Okay I will. Disney should be ashamed of themselves for making the most uninspired attempt at a "modern classic" and thinking everyone would eat it up without question. I hope they learned something after it failed miserably.
>>151014312Retard
>>151014004That's just 90% of Wish fanart
>>151016693>Hexed's try saying That five times fast
>>151012971He was boring
>>151018563That's not a picture of Asha's friend group
I cannot fucking believe this was Disney's 100th anniversary movie
>>151012971>We all have to agree on that.Why is Disney shilling on /co/?
>>151014676It's not in the movie, but the official novelization Disney put out. He's Mufasa's biological brother, unlike in the live action, and before he got his Scar his parents named him Taka, which means either Trash or Want in Swahili. They retconned that in Lion Guard, changing it to Askari which means soldier, meaning their parents never saw an option where he could be in charge, unlike the child they literally named King.
>>151013362>>151012971As the official high priest of /co/ after this was forewarded to my by our spokesmen, and a vote, we have voted that 90% of us have not seen this shit in the first place.We have also voted to tar you, feather you, and run you out of town being chased by wolves.
>>151019212None of us can... I wish Disney had made a behind-the-scenes documentary so we could have a better idea of how this shitshow came to be.
>>151020082aww why he so angry? :(
>>151012971He was the worst Disney villain since Hans. Disney's twist villains suck and they've been trying to make them work for so long that they've forgotten how to write a normal villain. Magnifico would have been a much more interesting character if he was positioned as the villain and it turned out he wasn't a villain at all. He is a designated villain not because there is something innately wicked about him, but because the movie needs him to be naughty and use green magic instead of blue magic.
>>151012971Why does Manifi/co/ barely get any threads anymore?
>>151012971>MAGNIFICO O O O O
>>151022352Magnifi/co/
>>151022248The novelty wore off after a while and people stopped caring about the movie after a while, as they should.
>>151024545Either the goat is potty-trained, or he's got a diaper underneath that outfit.
>>151012971He was fun to play as in the Doom mod Bring Your Own Class.
He was the misunderstood hero of the story.
>>151020082Well, we do know originally the star was supposed to be some cute boy and there would be a love story between him and Asha, and then Magnifico and his wife were supposed to be a villainous couple.but according to Nu-Disney love is forbidden and women can do no wrong so it was all cut and changed.
>>151019212How would you make a 100th Disney anniversary movie?I would make it about Mickey and Minnie Mouse finally getting married, a romantic comedy with silly symphony hijinks and Donald and Goofy fighting to be best man. Working title "Mr Mouse Ties the Knot".
>>151014580This. I'm not saying the antagonist of the movie Wish didn't do anything wrong. It is the message of the story. It is easy enough to rewrite the story to make him an actual villain but that goes against the message of the story.We are gave up all legitimacy to read subtext to the Left. They could make a bad guy with a good point do something evil for no reason then we are expected to ignore that he had a point. They could make a bad guys whom the story actually is trying force sympathy towards then they say the he is bad guy despite the narrative agreeing with him. The invisible hand of the author isn't so invisible.
>>151025482The what in what?
>>151019312>meaning their parents never saw an option where he could be in charge, unlike the child they literally named KingAt some point you gotta pick who's who in the succession game or else they'll tear each other apart in competition to bear the crown's weight. And for all we know they might not have been given those names at birth but earned them over time, or been given them by the magical prophecy monkey who foresaw that the kingdom would fall apart if scar took power.
>>151013811Villain should've been the book. A parody of the fairy tale itself, whispering power and promise to dissatisfied people without ever raising a word or daring an injury. A perfect parallel to the other wish-granting concept of the movie, the far more distant and impersonal, yet far less manipulative and insidious stars.
>>151012971Ok. How far has he accomplished?
The wish thing just makes no fucking sense. We saw people become more tired and depressed after having taken their wishes, but we ALSO saw an entire fucking town of 18+ adults NOT be depressed so it's not as if this is a widespread effect. Asha is right in asking, "Why can't you return the ones you won't grant?". The whole logic falls apart because he doesn't have a fucking reason. He's not doing it out of the kindness or the badness of his heart, he's just hording for neutral reasons. It's confusing. Why couldn't it just be that he needs people's positive energy to power his own magic? He thinks it's the only way to do powerful magic and Asha goes, "Nuh-uh, you can get positive energy from belief and you don't need to forcefully take it from people". Like, why can't it just be that simple?
>>151014022>>151019312Dude got like, 3 or more origins at this point, but none of them hinted in the movie. I thought the Taka one was in one of the 7 original "expanded universe" books, not a novelization?At this point you can just pick your favorite, if you even care.
>>151012971He's so handsome...
>>151025629forreal tho
>>151019076These guys were so forgettable it's actually insane
>>151024545It still makes me laugh that THIS was Disney's response to the stylized CG trend Spider-Verse had popularized
>>151012971>classic Disney VillainLike the one who destroyed their beauty and fed the main character a poisoned apple?Like the two con-artists and a literal slave driver?Like the giant demon posturing on a mountaintop at night?Like the cruel stepmother who figuratively put her foot on her stepdaughter's neck?Like the "poor misunderstood fairy girl" who cursed a princess because the king forgot to invite her to the baby's party?Oh no, you were talking about the Renaissance period villains that were really good at singing while revelling in their villainy.
