Guy was in serious money and debt trouble for the past 6 years and had to sell all his Billy & Mandy production art on eBay. He was offered to work on Jellystone since his friend CH Greenblatt was the creator, but it seems that wasn't enough to keep him afloat.Atoms was handed plenty of projects but he rejected all of them because they were all reboots and adaptations. Dude put himself into poverty.
Can't he do commissions? Fuck, I'd like to see him do variant covers for indie comics even
>>151016036>he reject all of themGood.
Dead Meat killed his career.
>>151016036That's what he gets for being a hateful fart cartoonist
>>151016150Sneed
>another californian parasite leaving to poison other states
>>151016036Anyone living in LA after the 2000s is fucking mental. How these retards never built up another community to produce stuff somewhere cheaper is mind boggling
>>151016036>Atoms was handed plenty of projects but he rejected all of them because they were all reboots and adaptations. Dude put himself into poverty.Or, you know, he didn't wanna work on soul-sucking shit like that for what is essentially the equivalent of minimum wage for any job in the US that isn't in Los Angeles. Based move desu. Maybe he can try the indie route again.I can respect an artist who wants to make HIS art and rejects multiple job offers more than I can an artist who will just work on any shitty reboot of an 80s property where they just change everything because they don't like the source material. Why work extra hard in an industry that gives you nothing back in return? Why not just cut your losses, move to another state, and find good paying work outside of the soul-sucking Hollywood framework?
>>151016036Good riddance, faggotYour stuff wasn't good
>>151016036Does he have an outside studio?
>>151016194He did two Scooby Doo movies, but said no to the Scooby meets Courage crossover since Dilworth wasn't involved with that. Did that possibly cost his job at WB?
>>151016214You'd think Dilworth not being involved would've motivated him to do it, so it got done right
>>151016036Being a cartoonist is so riskful, one hit wonder dude struggling to eat.
>>151016036>Atoms was handed plenty of projects but he rejected all of them because they were all reboots and adaptations.Source on that? All I know is he's had no job whatsoever due to CN branding him as a bad creator.
>>151016036Joe Murray moved to Belgium and is still doing animated shorts, not all hope is lost.
>>151016281From his tumblr in early 2024.
>>151016036He shouldnt have rejected all those job offers but i still feel sad for him. The man created one of the greatest cartoons of the 2000s and the industry spat him out and abandoned him for it. Fuck modern cartoon network
>>151016155Shut up, fag
Is Atoms just the Steve Ditko of cartoons?
>>151016203Cope, faggot
>>151016155It's not his fault that western animation is based in California.
>>151016385Absolutely, also hes the kirby of modern cartoons too
>>151016397It actually kind of is. The industry has been in dire straits for like 2+ decades and guys like Atoms should've been pulling resources to make moves/investments to create a way to animate in a cheaper location
>>151016385>>151016415Not Randian enough
>>151016036>Genndy Tartakovsky: continues to get new work and rewards>Craig McCracken: struggling but still working despite his pitches being rejected except for Kid Cosmic. His only job security is revisiting old properties like Powerpuff Girls and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends.>Dan Antonucci: one hit wonder but he at least kept copyright control over Ed, Edd n Eddy. He does not have to worry about execs ruining his work with a terrible reboot.>Maxwell Atoms: everything went wrongIt's sad how he got the short stick out of his peers. Didn't he try to pitch a Billy and Mandy movie since new pitches were not being accepted that much anymore? It sucks that did not get to be done. Poor guy.
>>151016478Where were you on that one then, Anon? You should’ve really tried.
>>151016553I'm way younger than those guys and never seriously wanted to be an animator. Just doesn't take a genius to understand that pulling resources and networking with other professionals would've been a good way for guys like Atoms to make their own shit without studio's and LA rental pricings. These guys saw shit like egoraptor and Hotdiggitydemon rack up millions of views on YouTube and you're telling me they never thought to try that avenue with the payout from making shows on a major network
>>151016478>>151016603It's already happening with Glitch.
>>151016150COPPA 2.0 can't come soon enough. Tired of you zoombas
>>151016203>>151016650
>>151016551you forgot to mention>Mr. (Tom) Warburton: only known for just KND and is trying desperately to get that rebooted>David Fiess: became a literal unknown by the 2000s but is still working in the industry>C.H. Greenblatt and Thurop Van Orman: still get work but not as spectacular>J.G. Quintel: After a three-year delay, Close Enough was supposed to be his big success but was then screwed over by Zaslav, so now he's just coming back to CN to reboot Regular Show>Butch Hartman: became an evangelical Christian and a scammer but fucked back to Nick nevertheless>Seth MacFarlane: surprisingly (or unsurprisingly) still doing amazingly, of all the people who used to work for CN/HB. Let's face it, love him or hate him, Family Guy, American Dad, The Orville (well, formerly as the show ended three years ago) and Ted are still doing incredible, and he's still doing musical albums and acting, so there's no stopping him anytime soon
>>151016551David Feiss won at the end, he got a large, varied portfolio. He’s currently doing a Disney show and directing a animated featured that is NDA.https://youtu.be/G2spDqQHXdI?feature=shared
>>151016036Hey, dont he got a job working with the jew girl that does vampire music videos?We maybe gonna see him moving to israel to work for a 20something female fan, on a proyec that very much can end nowere.
>>151016391
>>151016779Pat Ventura also retired, I miss that guy. His stuff was suitable for the internet, surprised he never tried that.
>>151016799Nah
>>151016864ok whatever you say trannybot
>>151016855Me too. Honestly he felt more chill and fun-going, an opposite of what John K. was
>>151016281>created 4 tv shows and directed 7 feature films>1 hit wonderHoly shit NPCs are retarded. if you worked in the industry for 1 single fucking day you'd realize you arent fit to shine the shoes of the guy that shines maxwell atoms's shoes
>>151017151Wrong reply?
why's there a handful of schizos on /co/ dedicated to hating on this guy
>>151016298>separate the art from the artists . . . unless I personally dislike the artists, then the art is bad!What a fag
this is going to sound cruel but I am going to be that guy, there is ZERO reason why this nigga needs to be living like this. Online exists. Online fucking exists. He could easily make shorts on a youtube channel and rack in enough money to stay afloat or comfortable, the name alone will get people in the door. he needs to stop going for industry-shit
>>151016298>sex pestsProbably means Ren and Stimpy reboot was at least one of them.
I do wonder what this means for the Vampair pilot, as he confirmed his involvement with that project alongside Voltaire.>>151017447Glitch may have fooled you, but simply working online doesn't pay a living wage. Even if you say "from the creator of Billy and Mandy" you need a lot of stuff to work out a project.He also tried before, with Dead Meat, and that failed spectacularly. So unless Glitch Studios contacted him personally to do a cartoon for them, just going indie is not an easy option. It may even be a financially risky one if you fail to garner attention.
>>151017497Dead Meat failed because it was an absolute mess. iirc grossly out of scope (big name VA's) for a measly budget (it was like 50k on kickstarter or something). of course success is not a guarantee, but it would be worth it to at least try it. People 10x less funny than him do it
>>151016779How did Seth do it?
>>151017335Some people just want brainless slop and are upset when artists won't provide the supply
>>151016779>Chris Pyronoski: Still working as head of his own studio, Titmouse. Same studio working on most of the newest animated shows>Tim and Julie Cahil: Still active after MGPAM with the lasted thing they were working on was an animated adaptation of the The Gumazing Gum Girl.>Judd Winick: Worked with DC comics including the original storyline for Batman “Under the Red Hood”, Green Lantern, and Green Arrow stories.>Joe Murray: Worked as an author and illustrator on a few children books before returning to tv with Let’s go Luna on PBS Kids and heading back to Nickelodeon bring Rocko’s Modern Life back for its Netflix special.>Man of Action: Continues working in animation and collaborating with Marvel for the Spider-Man and Avengers shows and ZAG with Zak Storm among others>Pete Browngart: Still active after SMFA and UG and got to be the executive producer behind the latest era of the Looney Tunes franchise with the HBO Max shorts along with the Daffy and Porky movie that came this year
>>151017556I thought most of the big name VA's involved were friends and the thing that killed it was SAG stepping in cause some of them weren't guild actors
>>151016194> essentially the equivalent of minimum wage for any job in the US"How am I supposed to live off $5,000 per week!?"
>>151016155He probably wasn’t a native, so it’s the other way around. Almost all of what you think of poison n Cali was imported from elsewhere.
>>151017567It's weird actually, but it has to do with the fact that, just like with Mike Judge, Seth knows to be consistent with his products
>>151016298I was with him until the end with ORANGE MAN BAD, like holy shit get the fuck over it already.
>>151017763>they were working on was an animated adaptation of the The Gumazing Gum Girl.they pitched it to DreamWorks Animation's TV division, but there was radio silence afterwards so the project might be dead
>>151016036Just in time for the apocalyptic food stamp nigger riots.
>>151016214Why wasn’t Dilworth involved?
>>151018584They never told him about it until the final hour.
>>151016551>>151016779>>151017763not necessarily CN but he did work there for a lil bit before moving to Disney so it counts>Alex Hirsch: only known for his one-hit wonder cult hit paranormal series of the 2010s that aired on Disney before he went on his schizo babble on his social media
>>151016289Good for him honestly. Glad he's still doing work
>>151016036betting 10 OP is writing an entire telenovela in his head and none of this happened
>>151016385no
>>151016380ok bot
>>151016036>and he couldn't do commissionsimagine my shock
>>151016298reads more like someone fleeing the boat before it hits the iceberg
>>151018600That's a pretty shitty thing to do.
>>151016478Exactly. The thing about Los Angeles is there's a reason it's called La La Land. None of them are living in the "real world." L.A. itself is a really insulated communication and Hollywood is an insulated community inside of an already insulated community. They were all just holding their breath hoping things would *go back to normal" and they could love their dream of going to mansion parties and hooking up with skanks because they "worked on things and know guy" while living in their own big house and driving their fancy car and enjoying their nice weather thinking they were above it all. They should've started doing this decades ago when things started to take a dive around the CN Real time, but ot was only going to be when it got this bad that reality finally cut through the fugue state and made them realize what was really going on. People leaving L.A. en mass and going to do their own thing elsewhere is the only thing that will fix it.>>151016621Glitch is good but it can't be one studio doing it or the problem will just speed run itself back into existence like it did with Netflix. What needs to happen is a bit of a balkanization where there's a bunch of little scenes and studios all over the country doing their own thing and room for truly indie men who want to be a one man show or hire/export their own team to still have a spotlight. You need to split things up so some trustfund kids can't come in and buy his way to the top and start exercising an unhealthy amount of control and censorship over everything and so that theres room for people to be weird, experimental, and off-brand and breed creativity and competition. In art diversity unironically can be a strength which is ironic since thats the one place where conformity and unity seems to be strictly enforced.
>>151016298He got so close to the point and still missed it:> Is it judaism ruining this industry?> No, it must be Elon Musk's fault....somehow.
>>151016551Why don’t any of these industry professionals try opening an indie animation studio? All of them were fucked over by the industry one way or another, and it’ll be cool to see an indie studio ran by an actual well-known professional who knows their shit rather than some tumblr eceleb.
>>151016779David Feiss just storyboards on 3D toddlerslop films like Minions and Smurfs now. I’ve heard somewhere that the reason he still gets work on projects like these is cause he can pump drawings out really quickly, I mean it doesn’t surprise me seeing that whole Cow & Chicken pilot was animated entirely by himself, that man’s a workhouse.
