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She wants it.
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It was like he was looking at walking garbage
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>>151017085
>>151017097
When Mike starts shooting up the school, I hope James is first
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>>151017097
I hope this flaky ass faggot dies of syphilis.
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Remember to watch the BCB tiktok, some fan is doing a lot of important work for free!
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>>151017085
Soon we'll see Gray Cat ostracized from the track team and probably quit.
>>151017097
Damn. What a faggot jerk.
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>>151017161
let's be real here
Mike's just gonna shoot up his own skull
it's his only way out of the horrible hell dimension that is BCB
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>>151017216
This reminds me of when I watched the stream and she said they haven't updated the webtoons because Suitcase is too busy and works too hard
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>>151017097
not gonna lie I hate james more than lucy
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I haven't read this comic since the gay chapters; what the fuck dumb bullshit is happening now?
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From the stream last week
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>>151017240
>gay chapters
which ones
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Reminder that Mike was right
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>>151017256
Gay James
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>>151017085
So it's not enough you shove him to the ground Taeshi? You gotta kick him in the ribs too?
>I want it
Bullshit, that cat has never wanted anything in her life
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yeah, next page mike cries and tells james that he regrets what happened and that when he gets mad he says shit he doesnt mean, and specifically asks james not to abandon him too
james just glares at him the whole time and says i dodged a bullet, huh

suddenly james is socially aware again. guess hes like david now where he bounces between a socially retarded comedic device, and a serious character with feelings, at random
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>>151017097
>Dodged a disloyal fag
Best in the long run for Mike. Though overall best for him would be the completely cut all the tablefags and their associates from his life
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New free patreon comic
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>>151017318
>I dodged a bullet huh
lol if he says that verbatim would be funny to show just how much of a horny drone he truly was and that Mike was completely right.
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>>151017216
Damn that sounds desperate, both for Taeshi and for the guy licking her feet
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>>151017240
>the gay chapters
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>>151017085
wait hang on, how long has Mike had actual cheek fluff? i was complaining about it being too round and flabby like a couple threads ago i think

maybe it's supposed to be a visual indication that he just got kicked to the ground. or am i overthinking this? probably.

regardless, i think i like scruffy Mike.
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>>151017343
Beat me to it darn

You'd think Augustus' reaction would be more in line with Lucy's. Dude's got trauma but you barely ever see this sadboy shit from him. Mike looks like an upcoming characterization more than how he is now so maybe it's the same with Augustus.
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>>151017274
James moved on from mike after they kissed, mike doesn't like that so he's been third wheeling james and david. Meanwhile Lucy has nightmares and Augustus blames Mike's presence for causing them. He tells Mike to fuck off inside, blames him for Lucy's current mental state and now James thinks Mike's a bad guy.
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>>151017318
Based Taeshi exposing faggots for what they really are
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>>151017318
>I dodged a bullet huh?
>Said by the literal chaser/relationship crasher/bang-and-drop slut
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>>151017085
At this point, grey cat would be 100% justified in becoming a school shooter.
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>>151017371
Gay.
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>>151017343
Damn Sue is getting head scritches from a massive hand, is she the only one who got the attention from an adult or something?
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>>151017364
Maybe supposed to be a visual indication of how depressed he is?
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>>151017364
I think it's meant to show he's not grooming himself
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>>151017085
>>151017097
HOW CAN JAMES FEEL HE'S IN THE RIGHT HERE? FUUUUUUUU HE WAS JUST USING HIM FOR HIS BODY AND CONFIRMED HIS FEARS

ok I'm calm now
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>>151017349
>death stare for a beat
>"Guess I dodged a bullet, huh?"
remember the time when this retard left private school specifically to closer to mike and headhunted him for the track team so he could spend time with him, and mike poured his heart out about how james singlehandedly turned his shitty life around, and then james kissed him and mike said he shouldnt get too close because he's an asshole and james said he knows hes trying to do better and shouldnt be so hard on himself, and even if they cant be a couple he'll still care about him? Pepperidge Farm remembers. in his defense, david runs really really fast and did a gag where he teleported on top of a light pole!
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>>151017318
I pulled out the old ouija board to consult the spirits about the future and they confirmed that yes, that is what James literally says
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>>151017343
These hands are so big, remember that their heads are huge and their bodies are kinda small. If we get /homfa/ on this, they will EAT it up because these cats are so tiny, you can use them like a fleshlight
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Behead James

Or have Mike hook up with Felix?...
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>>151017085
>>151017318
>>151017349
>>151017384
Mike's torture is long and excruciating, I've never seen something like that. Like I said before in many other threads, any other comic would have the decency to show him down in the dumps a bit, and then move on, wrap it up and have the character work to resolve the situaton, but BCB insists upon itself over and over, it's sickening.

The Hellraiser dude would be proud of Taeshi I'll tell you that much.
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>>151017410
>>151017479
They are cats being petted by humans
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>>151017470
I dodged a bullet, said the gun
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>>151017502
yes, and?
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>>151017502
In that case I'd pet Sue alright
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>>151017470
Truly despicable
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>>151017470
Pain
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Finally the gaybait arc is coming to an end
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>>151017085
>No Mike, we HAVE to go outside, just be alone if you don't like it!
>Haha nah obviously we can just practice after school, let's leave Mike alone outside!
It certainly was a decision to have Mike's version of December be halfway made up of James and David's terrible comedy routine

>>151017318
Does he say anything about leaving the track team? Because if not then there literally isn't a scrap of justification for James turning against him.

>I dodged a bullet huh
And we just gonna have to keep seeing this character, too, now that he's at the table. Dumb evil motherfucker.
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>>151017534
The gaybaiting will continue until morale improves
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>>151017366
Not really. Augustus is a huge pussy and doesn't physically lash out like Lucy does. He shrinks when things get physical, favorably or not
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>>151017470
Taeshi doesn't remember it so it never happened :)
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>>151017544
Of course she remembers it. James only said this to hurt Mike more when he goes back on his word just weeks later.
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Reminder that December was FOURTEEN YEARS AGO and we're still dealing with the fallout because Taeshi is fucking insane.
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If I had any confidence in Tae I would say it's impressive how she played the long con at turning James into a complete hate-sink.
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>>151017514
Yeah! Look how Mike is using his mopey attitude and self victimizing to string James along! Mike sure is BAD

Yes it's sarcasm, I'm angry as well
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>>151017559
The patrons fully approve of what he's been doing though.
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>>151017410
Yeah it's my hand
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>>151017491
Unfortunately Mike is probably going to be too depressed and will bail on track team. At best this will get the rest of the team curious and potentially call James a fucking asshole. He already has a negative reputation with them for being a flaky airhead faggot
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>>151017570
Give me some comments to make me angry please
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>>151017559
Let's be real, nobody likes faggots so James will now act as a perfect hate magnet
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>>151017559
James is portrayed as justified. Suitc- I mean Mike Bad, remember?
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>>151017343
>James is now considered a main/side character so he won't just leave
>>151017570
All it takes for them to like a character is siding with Lucy so moot point
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>>151017559
>>151017529
>>151017514
Does someone even actually believes James is in the right in all of this? I sincerely doubt and hope not many people still like him at this point. I've never in my life seen such a vapid, shallow and treacherous character before.

Easily one of the worst characters in this comic already chock-full of terrible characters. Him and David truly deserve each other.
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Taeshi should make a Patreon tier where you get to backhand her across the face. One time, as hard as you want. Set it to five bucks, she'll be richer than Elon Musk in a week.
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>>151017621
Yes there are people who say it's very reasonable for James to turn on Mike like this because Mike looked guilty and did not explain himself well, and that they would do the same in James's shoes
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>>151017621
Some patreonfags but that lot is insane and would side with Hitler himself if he was also on Lucy's side.
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>>151017570
Like I said this is from the timeline where Tae is a good writer and she's gone out of her way to portray the Mike vs. Lucy thing in a nuanced way
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>>151017621
theres a few people nervously suggesting that james is kind of an ass in the patron chat (afraid of getting dogpiled for having a dissenting opinion) and the usual one or two demented lesbians (i.e. flak0ps) running damage control
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>>151017318
Jesus Christ this comic is basically shit on Mike while furry fags circle jerk and pay patreon. I wonder if they switched places for once or if Mike is now basically banished
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Does Mike still have karate at least?..
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>>151017655
Taeshi probably forgot they do that
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>>151017646
Mike's basically 'banished' and Paulo is probably going to go to him from the previews + double date thing. Whether he actually sides with Mike or it ends up yet another repeat of Paulo also being a flaky ass friend who throws Mike under the bus when inconvenienced is up in the air. Remember, dude was real quick to say he'd stop associating with Mike if that is what Lucy wanted before she yelled at him.
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>>151017534
Nope, just the gay baiting with James ends
Taeshi will find new men like Paulo, Felix, etc to torment Mike with
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>>151017621
>Does someone even actually believes James is in the right in all of this?
Yeah, Taeshi
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>>151017655
Probably not because Lucy's also there. Would make for a nice excuse to kick the shit out of her or though but he's too depressed at this point.
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>>151017085
No fucking wonder Mike is paranoid about connections when this shit keeps happening. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes full recluse
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>when Lucy inevitably sneaks out to speak to Mike for reasons
>they fight
>she uses Paulo's proposal to win
>but she feels kinda bad about it so so it's okay
Augustus shows up and we do this again
>somehow it's Mike's fault
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>>151017655
If its a plot point that mike can't even go outside without triggering Lucy then taeshi clearly forgot about karate because theres no way they coexist that closely
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>>151017655
Would he even have the energy to do that at this point? Specially considering Lucy's in there, too.
Mike's gonna croak at this point. This isn't funny, it doesn't feel justified, it's just torture, plain and simple. Such level of sadism is sickening.
What is worse is that Taeshi puts it out there for the world to see, and still gets praise from idiots for her 'brave and stunning' work of torture.
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I want to hug Mike at this point, poor bastard.
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>>151017720
He might have dropped it to have more time for track
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>>151017318
>>151017343
>>151017366
So obviously Mike is not going to shoot up the school. But after this kind of gut-stabbing abandonment and shameless gaslighting, it would make all the sense in the world for gray cat to close himself off. His imposter syndrome would go out of control as Mike becomes incapable of accepting any kind of positive affirmation. This would be really fucking bad in a comic brave enough to explore it rather than torture Mike without relent.
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>>151017721
Same, but he'd probably push you away. Claiming he doesn't deserve it.
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>>151017693
Mike needs to find friends that don't want to fuck him. All of his interpersonal problems are rooted in his friends wanting to fuck him.
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What would be the most entertaining route for Mike at this point? Personally I'd like to see zero self preservation or fucks given Mike

>Nonchalantly drops Sandy
>Calls Lucy a cunt and tells her to do a flip next time she tries to kill herself
>Calls Augustus a pussy who should also kill himself. Dare him to throw a punch and laugh at him when he doesn't.
>Starts hooking up with random girls
>Goes out of his way to throw down with Alejandro
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>>151017085
Well, Lucy, you said it. You said the phrase. It's locked in and no amount of editing (that Taeshi would ever bother with) can fix the fact that you happily went along with this.
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>>151017744
Best thing he can do is just stop caring or reacting. That's not gonna happen though.
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>>151017720
Women like Taeshi are sadistic as a rule and almost never called out on it
I guess it's a good thing that Tae and her orbiters take it out on a fictional cat boy instead of a real person but I think it is for the best that she never has children
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>>151017741
Well that's a problem since everyone he interacts with seems to want to fuck him and at this point its probably too late without help the kid isn't going to get. He is probably getting fed up with relationships and/or can't trust himself to have one without getting gaslit that its somehow selfish and him being evil. So either he goes full depression mode or he 'embraces' the evil and goes full villain
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>>151017630
Augustus said Mike strings people along and Gus is one of the good guys, so now you've got like half of the people over there uncritically repeating that Mike has a history of stringing people along. The patrons are not intellectual, to put it mildly.
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>>151017364
It's just Taeshi being inconsistent with her art. Mike's had it both when happy or sad. I do agree, though--he almost always looks better with a little cheek or head fluff going on. Taeshi should lean on that as a sign of character development since it covers up a weakness of her "artstyle."
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>>151017085

This comic is highly satanic teaching children to be WHORES
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>>151017744
>Starts hooking up with random girls
This sounds like a plot point fit for Mike but I know Taeshi is making him save himself for Lucy
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>>151017384
>>151017470
Like I've said a million times: James was only ever introduced to hurt Mike, because good things don't happen to gray cat. But wow, I sure never expected it to get THIS blatant. Can't say I believe James is a snake because he's too stupid to fit the definition. But the sheer depths of that retardation make him a different kind of worthless. Much as I'd like James to realize his error in judgement, it'd need to be a painful lesson and one not rewarded with easy forgiveness.
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>>151017701
Don't even go that far, they share classes, but I guess this would basically exile Mike from the school if taken further
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>>151017775
this comic is blessed for teaching children gay people are disloyal and bad friends
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>>151017495
No, it's basically genius. They have found a way to make Mike's suffering eternal, as a result Taeshi and Suitcase will make a living off this comic until they die.
A thousand years from now their distant descendants will be cranking out these pages as they continue the family legacy.
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>>151017802
you're really laying it on, james bring back bad memories or something?
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>>151017802
Did you have a bad boyfriend or something? You repeat this a lot.
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>>151017581
They'll eventually see the error of their ways and side with James (incidentally; it's actually about siding with Lucy) because Taeshi's got to keep yanking the football away after tricking her little husbando voodoo doll into holding out hope for the 27th time.
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>>151017085
Has Mike fucked the beige twink while in drag behind the school deckers yet?
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>>151017843
No he missed his chance and then was immediately shafted for David
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>>151017645
>i.e. flak0ps
That's a real shame. I'd hoped she was more self-aware about this sort of thing than Taeshi is. Guess her own comic will soon tailspin into BPD insanity as well.
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>>151017794
You could argue that his punishment will be simping for David who has no consideration for a single person not Paulo and sometimes Lucy (it's ok to grope her because he isn't Mike), so James is now a patsy to a non character
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>>151017696
The total lack of feeling bad on today's page should really damn her. Girl is in full self-justification mode.
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>>151017850
she is absolutely fucking insane for lucy and will crawl straight up your ass if you suggest she does anything wrong. the passive aggressiveness never fails to provoke an argument unless the offender completely backs off, so people usually dont defend any offending viewpoints too heavily
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>>151017843
The only thing Mike has ever fucked is his selt steem
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>>151017741
I dunno, there's Sue and she doesn't seem interested in fucking Mike. She doesn't strike me as a strong friend to him and probably still holds a grudge.
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>>151017887
I think they meant the discord chat
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>>151017889
How can she be such a Lucy defender while also simping for Sandy, Lucy's worst nemesis?
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>>151017887
she's a fixture in the discord
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>>151017834
>/bcb/ is one person
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>>151017922
>>151017912
Yeah I realized my error
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>>151017919
Because both are unrepentant selfish assholes but in their own way
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>>151017919
part of what makes her so distinctly batshit is that she will fully acknowledge her own self-contradictions if someone presses her hard enough, when it comes down to it she just unironically simps for girls and the whole "women's wrongs" queen slay shit and doesnt like men
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>>151017744
>>Starts hooking up with random girls
Lets not turn him into Paulo. Just get him a girlfriend or someone to talk to that won't be a cunt immediately.
>The second the cunty behavior or betrayal is about to rear its head, Mike just switches to a low-emotions mode and cuts ties on his own.
>If either Lucy or one of her simps starts something, low emotions switch to lightly cunty and tell them to piss off.
>If Augustus pushes it, Mike will sock him in the face and will be ready for Lucy's bllshit.
The issue here is that Mike gets baited or lets his rage blow up too fast. Less sperg and mroe Mike when he was on that friend "date" with Daisy but colder then when Daisy pushed it. So he gets some immunity to bullshit. He took Daisy's advice to heart, but with a twist, since he would be way colder, and the ability to cut ties so easily would still be rooted in his (justified) paranoia.
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>>151017938
anonymity is not as infallible as you think it is, something every newfag has to learn the hard way when people start to pick up on their annoying patterns
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Actually, this just occurred to me. Lucy's nightmares involve almost everyone at the table. Why would she agree to go near anyone there at all? Wouldn't this just make the nightmares 10 times worse?
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I really wish i could just skip this whole torture filler and get straight to some actual action towards development and change, but chances are, even if you spend YEARS without reading this, you'll still come back to the same points being hammered over and over again.
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>>151017744
Entertaining? Probably a funhouse mirror version of the happy-go-lucky Mike that Lucy envisioned in her Wonderland dream. He no longer cares much about anything, seems quite happy and energetic, but also a bit cracked. Fiddles while Rome (i.e. the table stuck with Lucy and James realizing David sucks ass) burns down. Still, he's single after dumping Sandy and Lucy finds his newfound confidence of sorts attractive. But she can't figure out how to get through whatever THIS is and Mike now has this infuriatingly perky habit of pointing out reasons why she should stop trying.

All this punctuated by flashes of intense self-loathing in which Mike verges on a manic breakdown only to recover and bury it back away with a smile.
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>>151017980
I guess it'll prove to her that her nightmares arent real and this time she'll finally understand her friends like her (even though they've been kissing her ass since she came back) and she will be cured
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>>151017980
Maximizing Mike's pain is more important, you must understand
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>>151017962
That's even weirder since she talks about her mom and some ex gf being very abusive to her on her twitter. Maybe that broke her brain
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>>151017821
The longer Mike fails to collapse under the weight of his creator's wrath, the weaker and more pathetic her own fursona looks by comparison.
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>>151017744
Sandy decides she's been a huge bitch and resolves to be a better girlfriend, Lucy seethes.
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>>151017850
>I'd hoped she was more self-aware about this sort of thing than Taeshi is
I think she has OCD or something, there's been like 4 different times where she has asked her twitter followers if she should get a rhinoplasty, she has a few issues
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>>151017980
Lucy's a fucking moron who wants to believe she's a tough cookie despite all conflicting evidence. If Mike can't find a balance between compassion and setting boundaries, then Lucy's problem is she can't figure out a happy medium between alleged independence and being a tiresome load.
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>>151018010
>Sandy actually comes back, full time
>This triggers the second December
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>>151018055
she also has BPD
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>>151018010
>Sandy becomes a real character
>Lucy suddenly has a stick to measure herself against
Oh that would be great.
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>>151018069
oof
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>>151017980
The only person who thinks they are related to the situation is Augustus, Lucy might be too prideful to disclose the whole dream to him, and she has never prioritized solving her issues over fucking others over so it makes sense
Hell, Augustus is the main reason she could be in danger of Alejandro coming back, someone she has had actual nightmares about, but that doesn't stop her from the constant exposure. It just happened this whole thing shat on Mike and had her play the victim
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>>151017216
I wonder how long it'll take before this relationship implodes because of Taeshi and Suitcase's sparkling personalities.
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>>151017980
I've been trying to sort this out in my head from the moment she got all blushy when David suggested it. I assumed she was going to get dragged back to the people she's been mostly avoiding since she came back and it was going to make everything worse.
My best guess is that either she's not thinking right now and her nightmares get worse, or this is all secretly about that "all our friends would choose me" bit from December and she's gonna have a dream that starts like a nightmare except all her friends save her from Alejandro this time because she just never believed they actually liked her until this specific display of loyalty.
Absolutely none of this squares with her rejecting this exact idea when Paulo had it. Maybe she's angrier with Mike now since he just suggested she led him on?
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>>151018108
She wants that dog dick
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>>151018008
Oh yeah don't get it wrong, Taeshi's BPD is just annoying compared to whatever she's got going on
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>>151018108
Which is dumb considering they've constantly taken her side over Mike even before this.
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>>151018008
>ex gf
no way, she's like the straightest woman ever
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>>151017470
>james said he knows hes trying to do better and shouldnt be so hard on himself
Aww, that's really sweet, James...
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>>151018144
Well she's mentioned it multiple times. I can believe she's bi
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>>151017849
>>151017898
the hell did I wait 5 years for then?
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>>151018168
More Mike torture
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>>151017097
>Oh yay! It's James' turn to kick Mike. I was worried he wouldn't get a chance!
And the BPD diaries continue...
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>December and she's gonna have a dream that starts like a nightmare except all her friends save her from Alejandro this time because she just never believed they actually liked her until this specific display of loyalty.
Taeshi hasn't retconned Lucy to have a mental illness in the story yet, right?
>Maybe she's angrier with Mike now since he just suggested she led him on?
Cept that was true, Miss. "All that I had" can't have it two ways. Can't both get upset when Mike tries to move the wheels and you reject him, then get mad when she isn't his number 1 priority anymore.

He was not with Lucy at all in any capacity, according to her, when he was writing Sandy, and Lucy could have explained that she was uncomfortable with him talking to her, but that required Lucy to explain WHY Mike's writing letters upset her. And Miss perfect retard can't be asked to explain herself.Yes, I am still mad about the gaslighting.

Let's not get into how fuckign quick Lucy will swap to Paulo.
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>>151018108
I feel like everything that happens in this comic requires anyone seeking why-type answers to plumb the depths of Taeshi's BPD psychosis. When Taeshi describes her own writing process, it sounds like she actually believes whatever the characters do are sensible given who they are. But Taeshi's grasp of her own characters appears to be rather flawed.
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>>151017470
Do the other readers think Mike was emotionally manipulating James here or what
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>>151018152
Ohhhhh, I get it now. The horrible demon face actually represents Taeshi herself. That makes so much sense.
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>>151018197
Of course they do.
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>>151018168
>Actually thinking that anything gay related will happen
Are you legit retarded? If Matt ain't there then you should immediately assume that's a nothingbuger/bait
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>>151018221
Matt is forever alone anyway
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>>151018197
Mike is a scapegoat. The readers, like Taeshi, are mentally ill, so they assume Mike is being manipulative because if they were in his position, they actually would be acting manipulative.
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>>151018152
How would you even beat a power like this? It rewrites you completely.
>>151018197
Only if you are a retard, since this is only Mike talking to James. Lucy has done actual manipulative attempts.
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>>151018236
I think they just believe that because they want some character to beat down upon. Lucy does so to Mike and is never punished for it. Gray cat acts guilty and whenever he's told to not feel that way, there's some extenuating circumstance that suggests his supporter would think otherwise if they knew the whole story. Hell, just look at what happened with James.
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>>151018248
Rape the demon
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>>151018264
>Rape the demon
Nephilim, you retard. Do you want a giant MALE lucy walking around?
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>>151018281
>A giant male Lucy
Oh no! An average sized incel!
Unless you mean Paulo, kek
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>>151018261
I'm still sore he had that heart to heart with Daisy about trusting her with his problems, and THEN she decides actually sabotaging his night out is pretty cool and the only bad thing to happen is that she wasn't given attention at all. Let's not even touch Paulo being a two timing friend
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>>151018294
Nah, imagine Luke here would be as tall or taller than David. Probably fairly rapey, judging by how Lucy acts.
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The most I see the more I realize that Taeshi gets support the same way Trump does
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>>151018324
Oh yeah, that did happen, huh? Here I was thinking that Daisy could have been a worthwhile alternative friend to confide in and it puzzled me why Mike didn't focus on her as a bestie instead of Paulo. I mean, choosing Paulo at all still makes no sense, but otherwise it now comes across as Mike being fully aware he shouldn't trust Daisy.
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>>151017085
>after school practice
>what an amazing thought

Holy fuck Taeshi you kidding me
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So when is Mike going to destroy this mad play?
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>>151017085
I can already see the brainwashing.
"James, it's not what you think."
"Save it, you're an irredeemable monster!"
>>151017343
Okay, I couldn't not comment on this. This is the cutest thing I've seen all year. I wanna do this to all of them. Mike, Abbey, James, Amaya, David, Paulo, Daisy, and Rachel especially. Sue, Augustus, and Lucy, I'd put secondary. They deserve headscratchies and huggies.
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>>151018369
You know how stupid people who can't write truly intelligent characters just dumb down everyone else around the alleged genius to make up the difference? David's not a real character, but otherwise the situation is all too real. That and some combination of "haha isn't it funny how everyone treats the literal retard with the most basic ideas as big brained haha my characters are all morons that's the joke!" Or Taeshi herself is so dumb that she truly does think these are amazing suggestions handed down by herself, the wise goddess of BCB.
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>>151018362
Dude is practically burnt out and can't trust anyone to be sincere and just support him, the first thing he did when the table got together before James was apologize to everyone for being a sperg and making it their problem to deal with, and even Sue backed down from her hurt pride hostility, and what do you get? Paulo and Daisy sabotaging his date (it wasn't one for Mike but Paulo really wanted it to be) with the introduction of "taking him down a notch"
So when people say "why didn't he just go to his other friends :)" I think what for? So he's let down into the grave?
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>>151018369
please be patient
he has retarded
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Only pity sex can fix Mike now
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>>151018362
>Mike being fully aware he shouldn't trust Daisy.
Who can Mike trust? So far, anyone whom he could rely on has proven themselves to be duplicius or will harm him for no personal gain but for the sake of harming him.
Daisy
>gained nothing from sabotaging or watching James and Mike.
> Would have gained from sabotaging David and Paulo, stopping him.
> Would have some valid ground for Paisy.
> Didn't do that and let the fuckers do it.
Paulo made no attempts on James.
>went to fuck with Mike for no real reason.
>James and Mike were staying friends, but for some reason that was too good for the trio of fuckers.
David should be fed a box of chocolate and rat poison. James can choke on a fence post.

It's impossible to actually argue Mike is stringing anyone along; it's more like everyone around him just decides they have a problem with him on some days. That shit is paranoia-inducing.
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>>151017318
If this is real I will actually pay a drawfag to write an "ending" where the gray cat pulls a columbine. Not out of spite but just pure contempt for these characters.
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>>151017495
If you can stomach it, read Darkmaverik's Love Me and Love Hurts. You have no idea.
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>>151018461
Her justification is "everyone is being awful here" like that's still not a 4 vs 1
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>>151018513
We already have garbage day with David
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>>151017513
I call Mike and Sandy, gonna turn her hair frizzy.
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>>151018362
Mike doesn't really have anybody he can trust. He's been betrayed left right and center. Even his Sandy autism is breaking as he just looks dead inside listening to her droning on the phone about stupid shit since she objectively cheated on him and for all he knows she could still be fucking around.
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You know, all this bullshit being piled on Mike's shoulders should provide Lucy with a fantastic opportunity for character development. The dumb kid should be so paranoid about being a selfish user that it'd be impossible for Lucy to get close to him. Mike would keep pushing white cat away "for her own good." She'd have to up and admit that what she said about him was either A) complete delusion on her part or B) a blatant attempt to hurt him. Both would require some soul searching and personal bravery (for once).
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>>151017085
Lucy and Augustus's faces are missing again.
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>>151018644
A symptom of Lucyspace occasionally causes faces to glitch out
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>>151018621
Character development? What for? Vero- I mean, Lucy is already perfect. She doesn't need character development.
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>>151018621
>Lucy
>Character development
Kek yeah right. Though the outcome is pretty funny in a way. She really wants Mike when all is said and done and all she's done is just making him want to be as far away from her as possible for multiple reasons.
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>>151017645
Are Fauna and Mary the demented lesbians? I guess Jessica and Madison are them here.
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Anyone thinking James, Augustus, David, or Lucy are in the right in this situation is fucking nuts. All of them are horrible people.

I figured the stuff with James would eventually go south because Taeshi cant help torturing Mike, but I didnt think it would happen this annoyingly, or fast. I take it not long after this that Taeshi will be upset that her readers hate Mike more than she wants them to because she's a nutcase.
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>>151018738
>Are Fauna and Mary the demented lesbians?
I mean yes but I don't think they're talking in the bcb discord unless flakops finally lost it and started roleplaying her characters like split personalities
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>>151017470
Massively understated
Can't wait for James to get smacked again
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>>151018566
>Mike doesn't really have anybody he can trust
this is what gets me the most about this shit. paulo has a support system. granted his biggest crime is just being a little bit retarded but at least he has people that care about him, even abbey is going out of his way to extend an olive branch. lucy, well, the entire school and cast is absolutely fucking obsessed with lucy when she has done absolutely nothing to be deserving of anyone's attention and repeatedly goes out of her way to shit on anyone who tries to reach out to her.
mike has absolutely no one, nobody reaches out to him, no one takes his side on anything, even though compared to lucy's active physical abuse mike's issues center around being a sperg who doesnt talk things through enough until he blows his top. he's most in need of an augustus figure, someone to hang out with him all the time and run interference and talk him through shit, or an abbey that just apologizes for past issues and gives him someone to open up to. the most salvageable person in this comic, and the most easily redeemed, and he actually HAD it until james saw david run really, really fast.
imagine if augustus did all this shit hanging out with lucy until he saw, like, one of the seniors do well on a test and went fuck you lucy im going to hang out with like, matt now and study with him for college. itd be a whole fucking arc about how he's callously abandoned her as soon as he got what he wanted out of her
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>>151017343
Paulo, Sue and Amaya are the cutest.
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>>151018566
Taeshi is making him look more sympathetic with losing everyone around him than he would have if he was in december mode.

You can't even say Mike's been an asshole in years. He's just been spineless and depressed
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>>151018692
>She really wants Mike when all is said and done and all she's done is just making him want to be as far away from her as possible for multiple reasons.
Cnsider how Lucy treated him in their old relationship, it does make sense she would want something like that again, but no way for Mike to want to leave. To do that requires Mike to be fairly broken.

We have said it a bit in the thread, but it takes more to break Mike vs Lucy.
>>151018771
>he definitely likes you.
Aged like a mouthless moth.
>>151018819
To be fiar, the one time he could stick up for himself resulted in him getting gut-kicked and gaslighted.
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>>151017630
>did not explain himself well
Well, maybe that's because he was KICKED IN THE FUCKING GUT BEFORE HE COULD!
IN WHAT FUCKING REALITY DO THOSE IMBECILES LIVE?
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>>151018621
Lucy can't have any positive character development because that requires taeshi to write her as being in the wrong. For some goddamn reason, she just cannot do that.


If any negative result comes from this moment, she will just turn on her crocodile tears and scream about how "I didn't want this!" while she could have stopped it any time but didn't and even gaslit Mike to make it worse.

She WANTS mike to be broken and for bad shit to happen to him. She WANTS payback for how he made her feel in December. But she doesn't want the responsibility of what could happen from that sort of thing. Thats why she feels more comfortable with someone like Augustus, Paulo, or even David doing it.
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>>151017721
Very same. His psyche is broken.
>>151017898
His esteem also isn't a good fuck, just the kind that tells him everything he does is wrong.
>>151018121
Who, Lucy? Yeah that's probable, he's rocking a big one. Sandy lost her ability to walk in Cracked.
>>151018208
Whoa, I got to know what page this is.
>>151018496
Sandy, Amaya, or Haley. All three for the best.
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>>151017630
>did not explain himself well


The nigga got kicked before he really could explain anything. Like, what the fuck are these people on.

If James had a functioning brain, he should have absolutely started questioning shit when that happened. But with how he is, he would have only done it if he still had a chance at dating Mike.
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>>151017630
>Did not explain himself well
Yeah no shit, because the harpy kicked him in the gut/balls and then proceeded to gaslight him hard before he could. I mean the fact that Lucy objectively proved Mike right by physically attacking him in front of him should have been a red flag, but James is an established retard.
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>>151018062
>>151018083
Sandy actually coming back to stay would be like dropping a nuke on Roseville. Her powerlevel is too high, her bitchiness too sharp - within a few days Lucy and Daisy would be killing themselves while Sue and Paulo have a new idol.
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>>151018761
Every author does at some point, personalities are hard to make and every single character is derived from an author's interpretation of the world, with added depth to make them unique.
>>151018771
Ouch, and James threw Mike away after this. I'd expect horny unapologetic gay twinkie James to find any smack arousing but now even one from Mike won't be cause The Candyverse apparently has it out for him.
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>>151018926
>His psyche is broken.
Not yet, still has family(not really)
>>151018936
>James is an established retard.
Being a retard isn't an excuse. Even a retard can understand some cause and effect.
>Mike says Lucy treats him badly
>Lucy kicks Mike
Anything after Lucy did that can be considered a lie. You cannot(logically) ignore Lucy kicking him.
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>>151018891
He also sucked up to Lucy's victim playing afterwards, as if his free speech is supposed to be silenced.
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>>151018939
It would Suck for Daisy's confidence, but at this point Lucy deserves it. Any little plan in her head that might regard breaking Mike as punishment or whatever so she can move in deserves to fail.

She should never get what she wants from him.

>>151018995
>Not yet, still has family(not really)

there is a 75% chance at minimum his parents will shit on him or his sister will act incredibly hostile to him and say something to emotionally damage him even more.

Why DOES his sister act like that towards him anyway. Normally siblings aren't like that by this age unless there's some real bad blood between them.
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>>151018995
Mike ideally shouldn't have shoved Augustus, but Augustus also shouldn't have taunted him with personal, non-confided secrets, much less fabricated a lie about Mike fantasizing about and two-timing Sandy and Lucy. James thought that outdated thought crime was "messed up", despite witnessing the remnant of at least 9 years of physical abuse by Lucy to satisfy her explosive, violent temper.
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How can we fix Mike?
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>>151019023
She enjoys playfully teasing him, but maybe she will take it too far and hurt him without intending, or actually get seriously angry.
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>>151019031
I think he's already been fixed - he doesn't seem to have any sex drive, aggression, or started puberty.
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>>151018777
And now that you mention it not only does Mike not have an actual support group on the school or at home (now he's the golden kid and the only respite for their now fighting parents so that's a tickling bomb too) but he's the only character in this cast that's being punished both narratively and in meta. Paulo has done way worse than Mike and actually used other girls as Lucy replacements, but the most he gets is called mean and have every single one of his prev relationships say how attentive and actually cool he is, also he is (was?) Tae's favorite because she loves assholes. Lucy has actually inflicted all the sins that Mike has been accused of on Paulo, except attempted rape which she did on Augustus. Has the comic given her shit for that? Once and the author is still doing "balancing" for that one time. Everyone gets to be a piece of shit except Mike
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>>151019023
>Normally siblings aren't like that by this age unless there's some real bad blood between them.
From the very recent stuff with Mike's mom, it's cause he is the golden boy. The child who is both great at school and not causing issues. If it's not that, Haley is a bitch.
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>>151017318
>Mike thinks being mad is justification for going full psycho on Lucy in December because "I didn't mean it so all the damage done is cancelled out tee hee"
>If I had the chance to do it again I'd... uh... DON'T LEAVE ME JAMES! D:
Wow I can't believe James didn't immediately forget Mike physically assaulting someone over such a raw emotional display with Mike making excuses for himself for the ten thousandth time.
It's also the fourth or fifth time Mike's said "I didn't mean what I said lol" and had absolutely nothing to follow up with and explain what he "actually" meant.
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>>151017085
Ive popped in here and lurked for a cople of threads, why do they hate the guy woth the scarf so much? It just seems to be mean spirited for no reason?
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>>151019075
Wow I can't believe Mike didn't articulate himself in the most emotionally intelligent and articulate way while he's crying after being harassed and having his friend turned against him. Surely we need to interpret this in the least charitable way possible.
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>>151019031
Mike will not get better until he is completely, absolutely, away from everyone in that school and even in that town.

He can't escape the group because one of them will come along and fuck up any good things he might have gained. As it stands he's going to keep people at an arms length at best because of what James did and it will take him a while to heal and open up like he used to.
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>>151019031
*We* can't.
...But SHE can.
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>>151019031
One word: Sex. It's an incredible boost in self-confidence and self-esteem. The only problem is that Mike got so castrated over the years that I can't even imagine him masturbating
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>>151019023
According to the last developments it's because Mike is the favorite child by virtue of not being troublesome and doing well at school, which translates to "he doesn't give his parents work" or the classic "a pleasure to have around" which just means you're not going to give them trouble. By comparison Haley is doing worse than him and she's been put in charge of looking after their little sibling, which can cause a lot of resentment
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>>151019112
mike needs a friend who actively hates the table group and thus would be impervious from getting turned into a lucy orbiter like james did
unfortunately mike is so mindbroken he'd feel the need to stick up for them and not tolerate anyone who didnt like them, which is nuts because he's the only one in the entire comic whod stick up for friends like that and everyone else would be happy to throw him under the bus
cmon, surely someone in this school thinks the table group are a bunch of spergs
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>>151018777
A lot about Mike's character makes sense with the headcanon that he's always felt fairly worthless despite his natural sense of empathy and desire to do good. Mike, deep down, always believed that he did not deserve love and so had to buy it through good behavior. This mindset was enforced by his mother's "golden boy" attitude and expectations along with his terrible choice in so-called friends (mostly thanks to Lucy). Mike can't see the good in himself because he just thinks that is what other people should rightfully expect from him. Even when they push things too far and "stiff" him on their end of the "bargain," Mike would get upset but ultimately rationalize away their debt because, you know, he shouldn't expect better.

So when Mike is finally convinced that he DOES matter (at least to Sandy), he has no idea how to handle the situation. It's mostly uncharted territory. He starts to internalize the unfairness of the situation and lashes out at those who have been happily "bilking" him all these years and will never stop unless he puts his foot down (which he's also bad at). Plus he's defending Sandy, the one person who gives him a sense of self-worth. His emotional pillar...which soon crumbles and leaves him feeling like trash again. Cue James who swoops in and picks up the pieces just to throw them into a wood chipper.
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>>151019096
short answer is after years of putting up with the white cat's tsundere gimmick, he got fed up, and chewed her out after cutting her off. She got super depressed and tried to kill herself by jumping off a building.

Between her attempt and him chewing her out, he actually apologized but she couldn't handle him not hating her when she was about to leave for another town.

Since then the comic has just been punishing Mike for being fed up with abusive treament from her because the author and her readers treat Lucy's suicide attempt as a free pass to be as shitty as possible.

Everyone likes Lucy for some goddamn reason so when itt comes to picking betwen the two,they'll always take her side over Mike's.


>>151019113
This would absolutely go south. If not due to her then due to everyone else in her group. Jordan, the glasses lesbo, and Augustus at minimum would fuck it up and make things worse.
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>>151017085
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS STUPID BULLSHIT ABOUT??????!!!!?!

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU GUYS STILL OBSESSED WITH IT??

WHY IS STILL RUNNING IN 2025?????????
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>>151019141
this could have been a genuinely intriguing character concept/arc if it was intentional and not complete happenstance by taeshi who doesnt know what to actually do with it
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>>151019031
Mike isn't the one who needs fixing at this point, the world around him needs fixing instead
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>>151019118
>One word: Sex.
Don't listen to this anon, it will not fix shit. Read Boy's Abyss and you will see how well it fixes shit.
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>>151019142
I think even Suitcase notated on it when someone started to list off the flaws that everyone has. Like Abbey is a literal misogynist but everyone's cool with him.

Just goes to show you, don't hang out with crazy BPD bitches they literally do nothing but bring trouble.
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>>151019164
>Like Abbey is a literal misogynist but everyone's cool with him.


What?
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>>151019031
You send him to the "farm" where he can spend the rest of his life playing with the other kitty cats on the endless fields of poppies and sunshine
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>>151019157
See you again in another 20 years or so, anon. We WILL be there.
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>>151018891
>>151018927
>>151018936
To be way too fair than Taeshi's writing will ever deserve, Mike did screw up on that front by telling Augustus to butt out and shoved him to the ground prior to the kick. I can see why that would be off-putting to James, who'd previously idolized Mike.

...That being said, Mike did start laying out why Augustus was full of shit and then Lucy absolutely did kick Mike to shut him up, so it's still a bad excuse for James.
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>>151019107
Don't reply to the troll
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>>151018236
A lot of the BCB fanbase are BPD woman that truly think that Mike deserves to be tortured because Lucy tried to suicide
BCB is a case study on how BPD females think
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>>151019188
stop trying to turn this into an echo chamber autist
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>>151019184
James should have thought back to the speech from here >>151017470

But he didn't because he's hung up on trying to bang david now instead. He can't date Mike so he has no reason to consider there could be another side to it all.
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Taeshi posted this on her tumblr to prove how she totally planned Paisy from 2006 (which, no shit, but she did a terrible job developing it) and what I'm struck by is what a bitter hateful husk of a character Lucy became over the years. I can't recall the last time she was ever just happy for someone.
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>>151019142
Thanks, to oustside eyes it just looks plain mean and i guess my intuition was right.
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>>151019218
If he hadn't switched lust targets to David he probably would have backed Mike uncritically here. Honestly right now you could probably tell James that David once beat a woman to death just for the meme and James would laugh it off.
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>>151019031
Mindbreak the cat in a way that throws everyone around him for a loop. Calm, kindly, spaced-out Mike who doesn't cave to guilt-tripping because he's been emotionally cauterized on that front. Yes, he's a monster, he knows. Nothing to be done about it, that's just how things are. Without any ability to get under Mike's skin and win a crumb of implied agreement from him, others have to deal with the notion that maybe they're the asshole. Mike accidentally goes on to kill them with kindness because for them there is no resolution through forgiveness. A hell of their own making.
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>>151019172
sorry I spoke too left for you, lemme turn it down.

Abbey thinks all women are victims and honestly, it's more insulting than Mike standing up to fucking Lucy. But everyone's cool with it.
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>>151019031
Paulo buttsex
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>>151019158
Ultimately BCB is extremely easy to interpret as fairly realistic depictions of a depressed man and his abusive "friends", despite the narrative siding with the abusers. Taishi's perspective is so twisted she doesn't realise what she's written.
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>>151019227
it is. it was more even handed in how it handled the two until Lucy jumped. Since then it's just been the author projecting real life grudges onto Mike and then getting upset when her fanbase hates him too much
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>>151019272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njqO3Wivrcg
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>>151019031

Just literally have him ignore every single person and focus on Sandy.
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>>151019107
Mike's had more than a year to articulate what he actually meant, him sperging out and assaulting someone isn't actually a good excuse for him stammering his way through the same old self pitying excuses he's been cycling through since Lucy left.
>>151018927
>>151018936
Not that guy but where did both of you get the same incorrect timeline of events?
Mike gets asked flat out by James "Are these people telling the truth?" and has nothing to say long after he was on his feet again, I actually can't think of a worse attempt at explaining oneself than not saying anything at all when you're allegedly being lied about.
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>>151019140
Abbey fits the description but he got his own demons to deal with
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>>151019270
>Abbey thinks all women are victims
That's not even true inside the comic. He's perfectly "happy" to throw down with Sue as an equal because he thinks she's a wrong-headed bitch, so to speak.
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I now realize that BCB is basically a manual on how to turn someone into a school shooter
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>>151019270
Does he? He argued with Sue qutie often.. You could say he thought that with Daisy but Paulo's constant messing with him didn't help matters.

Abbey doesn't get shit because his problems have a stronger foundation with what happened to his biological parents.

Meanwhile Mike was the nice guy that laid into the "Fan favorite girl" extra hard and had the unintentional side effect of her trying to kill herself.

This was followed up with 4 to 5 years of him sperging not long after. So it makes Mike look worse because of the impact his actions had.
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>>151017300
wtf is he holding?
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>>151019296
I'm sure you'll gloss over Lucy kicking him in the gut kek. He didn't even hurt Augustus. I just don't get why Mike is expected to be a unique paragon of emotional maturity when no other character in the comic is held to that standard, even when they do shit just as bad or worse than what Mike has done.
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>>151019207
>oh noes i've burned all my bridges by being a disingenuous retard and no one will let me waste their time anymore
If only there had been some way to have avoided this outcome.
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>>151017470
It is bizarre that Taeshi wrote such a sweet, genuine moment of camraderie and then proceeded to shit all over it. Does she have split-personality disorder, and the primary identity fucking loathes the secondary one for actually being a competent writer?
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>>151017300
I don't understand why Taeshi is married to giving Mike such an awful hairstyle.
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>>151019367
Ghostbusters' vacuum cleaner thingy?
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>>151019305
I mean. Abbey having a male friend to talk about his problems with could be a nice way for him and mike to be better friends. Nothing wrong with venting with a homie. They already play vidya together.
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>>151019380
It's called lifting Mike up all the higher so he falls all the harder.
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>>151019367
About to murder suicide his family
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>>151019376
>oh noes i've burned all my bridges by being a disingenuous retard and no one will let me waste their time anymore


How? Especially in the case of James. James had already fucking dropped him basically because he couldn't date him. Even if Mike didn't explain himself well, why would and should he just buy what this random guy says at face value.

Why not give it any second thoughts especially after the physical shit happened?

Blaming Mike for burning bridges doesn't work when he didn't actually do anything to burn them.
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You know who's really to blame here? Sandy. She turned Mike against Lucy, causing Lucy to commit suicide, which turns everyone against Mike, who will in turn commit suicide. All while being outside of Roseville sho she never has to face the consequences of her actions.

It also makes perfect pottery with Vera hating Goldie, the evil long-distance suitor of Suitcase who almost took him away from her. This comic will end with Mike realizing "his love was always right in from of him and he was wrong to hitxh himself to a girl who never cared about him the way Lucy did"
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>>151019284
So they are psychotic and want a punching bag.
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>>151019426
Crying Mike who was just kicked in the gut didn't immediately start defending himself when James called him messed up and then asked if it was true, in that order.
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>>151019305
abbeys existence is such an achilles heel to this entire ongoing arc because he was there when mike spilled the beans and told everyone at the party what happened and at the most looked kind of awkward but otherwise didnt give a shit and still hangs out with mike every so often to this day. and you're telling me james now hates mike's guts after some random rapist gangster kid came up and talked shit about him and his gf kneed mike in the stomach to keep him from talking back?
as time goes on i appreciate abbey more and more for being a relatively realistic and grounded character in an otherwise completely unbelievable setting
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>>151019441
>You know who's really to blame here? Sandy.
Lucy get off of 4chan
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>>151019372
BCB would be better if it was a comic about everyone leaving Lucy's mental state up to just one guy and why that's a horrible idea.
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>>151019441
>You know who's really to blame here? Sandy.
No, I'm pretty sure it's Taeshi, anon
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>>151019397
True but I still think it reminds him too much of Daisy, who really broke it for him that people will side with assholes over the people they "care" for, which is a hard hit for someone whose father was one of these and his mom died because of that. It's probably part of his therapy (because he's actually in therapy, take note Lucy) not just blurting shit out, the only reason he did so to help Paulo is because he had pity for him because at least his mother fucking loved him
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>>151019372
>He didn't even hurt Augustus
Weird, he looks in pain to me.
I didn't gloss over Lucy kicking him, I explained that it happened well before that page and your cope was that Lucy literally stopped him from explaining himself with that kick when he could've explained himself just fine right there when James asked, he just didn't which is objectively a poor attempt at explaining himself as that anon was saying.
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>>151019426
I think the comment was for the anon whose mad no one wants to argue with him why he believes Mike was leading James on
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>>151019456
>as time goes on i appreciate abbey more and more for being a relatively realistic and grounded character in an otherwise completely unbelievable setting


Which was basically why he was sidelined. He's so grounded in why he's like he is, that Taeshi can't twist it into the retarded shit she usually does without people calling foul.
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>>151019458
I never wanted to post here!
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>>151019441
No Lucy trying to kill herself is her own fault. Both white cats are shit though and Mike should cut ties with both.
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>>151019388
It looks like suitcase
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>>151017097
Gotta love Taeshi's gay representation;
>Shallow and vapid
>Predatory and opportunistic
>manipulative and two-faced
>self-centered
>no critical thought
>sex-crazed
>>copies others' personalities to fit in.
>presenting good only to do evil.
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>>151019517
She draws Suitcase with an awful bowl cut, though, not the weirdly flat anime bangs look.
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>>151019514
Imagine the discord melting down if a character was ever unsympathetic about Lucy's suicide attempt. Hell, just Jasmine helpfully reminding Lucy that taking your own life is a sin.
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>>151019483
You cropped out the very next panels where he starts laughing. He shook him up a bit but he seems pretty fine. I just think it's silly if Mike shoving Augustus for saying antagonistic shit to him is a crazy sperg thing to do, but Lucy getting violent when Mike says something she doesn't like is somehow fine.
I don't think I'd have faith someone would hear me out genuinely if they said "You're messed up." to me before even bothering to ask if it was true.
I don't think Mike is a flawless angel btw I just think he gets far less charitable readings on his actions than most of the characters.
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>>151019514
Lucy also tried to kill herself after a reconciliation was offered and she doesn't know about Facebook, Skype or any form of internet communication. This is like mid to late 2000s.there is nothing stopping Lucy from talking to Mike if she moved or attempting to get her parents to stop the move.
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>>151019483
>He looks in pain
He's shrinking like a pussy because that's what he is. Get physical in any way and the guy shudders every time. Also note he was fine 2 seconds later when it went back to talking. Mike SHOULD have kicked his ass instead of a little shove but he's not allowed to do anything major.
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Punished Mike will continue to suffer
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>>151019489
I believe he was sidelined because compared to everyone else's his issues are actually serious and traumatizing unlike Lucy "he was mean to me once so I tried to kill myself" Whitecat. Hell, she resents him a lot to the point of making a whole comic about how Mike isn't similar to him because Lucy wouldn't fuck someone who was worried about her consent. Abbey is a sign you can get better if YOU FUCKING MOVE ON AND AWAY FROM THE SOURCE OF YOUR PROBLEMS, and we can't have that :)
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>>151019547
You don't get it. She doesn't want a long distance relationship. She wants her teddy bear on standby
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>>151019031
have him murder lucy
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>>151019563
I dunno, Abbey's parental trauma is way worse than Paulo's and Taeshi still made him fall victim to At Least Your Mother Fucking Loved You.
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>>151019547
She wants Mike all to herself or not at all. She's a legit nut case that nobody wants to get professional help for, for some goddamn reason.
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>>151019031
Probably do that sort of thing like Steve did in American Dad once where he just 200% stops caring about someone and their opinions. Just look at Lucy and go
>Okay. From this moment forward I will not associate with you in any way. I am going to go where I want and if you have a problem with my presence that is your business as I will not care if you happen to be where I go. Have a good life.
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>>151019565
You are correct but that still means she's a retard who attempted to kill herself for no reason and suffered no consequences.

I'll stick to my guns and say you could retcon the suicide attempt and almost nothing would change consdering how no one actually gives a shit about it cept to hurt Mike.
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>>151019600
Pretty much. Though Lucy did try to use it as a weapon. It's pretty rich how people try giving Mike shit about being 'manipulative' or attention seeking for wanting basic companionship when Lucy's the one going around maliciously trying to use people or use events as weapons to hurt others or bypass criticism.
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>>151019600
It's weird how she can just fall like that and have no scars, limps, or bouts of body pain considering it hasn't even been a year yet since.

>>151019625
People keep excusing her because of the suicide attempt. The levels of excuses she gets depends on who she does it to.

She'll have more people calling her out about hurting Paulo than she will with Mike.
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>>151018400
>Guy has world manipulated by a psycho bitch and her avatar to perpetually make him suffer in all manner of situations on loop
BCB really is just Black Souls
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I don't really understand James, the way he's been acting in this whole thing is borderline schizophrenic
>"You're messed up Mike. By the way, was any of that true?"
>acts like he has no problem still running with Mike at lunch like nothing happened, only to look at Mike with disgust and say he dodged a bullet when they go inside instead
What's even happening in his brain?
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>>151017470
I've never gotten such whiplash from a characters heel turn before. Was this always Taeshi's plan for James? What a waste... Surely, she would have known that James was becoming a fan favourite. A good writer can read the room and adapt their story and characters on the fly, but a bad writer lets great story gems slip away. This development shows that James isn't a character, he's just an instrument, a tool to be used and discarded later.
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>>151019488
Someone else told him to stop trying to create an echo chamber, I personally don't care because no one has ever or will ever listen to his weird cries for an embargo on thought.
>>151019543
I didn't crop it out to deceive people it just doesn't matter to the point that Augustus was hurt, Augustus was planning to get hit the entire time so him laughing about it is just his anime villain schtick, he laughed after Abbey punched him in the face too and I think we can agree a punch to the face hurts.
>I don't think I'd have faith someone would hear me out genuinely if they said "You're messed up." to me before even bothering to ask if it was true.
Kind of fair, but Mike tries to get James to hear him later anyway, only it's long after the damage is done and James is leaving so it's not really a good out for Mike, he just never explains himself and then things blow up in his face over supposed misunderstanding and Mike just continues the looping dialogue of
>You don't understand
>I didn't mean it
>Refuses to explain
Over and over.
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>>151019694
The kino answer would be that Mike's having a stress-induced schizophrenic episode, which is why the comic started noticably degrading in writing and panelology at some point during the fight. Sadly bcb is not kino.
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>>151019694
>acts like he has no problem still running with Mike at lunch like nothing happened
I think that was more him hyperfocusing on David and totally forgetting Mike existed. Again.

>What's even happening in his brain?
It's called Taeshi assuming direct control. Or, alternatively, the sum of both Lucy and Davidspace exerting their reality-warping forces upon him at once. He is a plot puppet, now.
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>>151019694
He's an idiot >>151018771
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Realistically, how could a MikexRachel relationship work if it were to work in the first place?
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>>151019705
>Surely, she would have known that James was becoming a fan favourite
I wonder if that is really the case given that she's isolated her fan feedback to bluesky post comments.
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>>151019728
>thought
>involved in anything you post
lol
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>>151019586
Yeah, but as I said, you could argue that's pity, like this fucker is all mommy issues goddamn, the constant need from attention from girls, increased when they are mean or difficult to him like Lucy, his assholish attitude towards others being not out of actual malice but overcompensating, etc. Abbey was never dealing with a pimp but a needy child. You can tell how awkward Abbey feels when they cross each other on new years and he's looking upset at his sister
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>>151019694
>>151019705


I legit think that James originally supposed to be a character that was a positive for Mike at the start. Like he and the track team were created to try and repair Mike's rep with her reader base.

But she couldn't help herself. She couldn't let Mike have anything, so we get this. James becomes this shitty because his character wasn't fully cemented yet. He became easy to use to milk for drama.

It's also why David is suddenly important. The imense bullshit at the end of the movie date and the current chapter can only be done with him because he's this weird ass gag character in a comic that has a much different tone than how he acts mentally. Daisy and Paulo would have most likely stuck up for Mike if Augustus tried this around them. Hell I'd say even Sue would have tried too.

This could only be done with david because he has no real attachment to Mike and is known for doing shit without suffering consequences. He most likely wont get any karma for this because that's just how Taeshi is.

>>151019750
a thread or two back, someone asked why BCB hasn't be reviewed by any youtubers, at least big comic reviewer ones. I don't think Taeshi could handle it if someone reviewed BCB and it got a ton of views while not praising the comic.
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>>151019705
>Surely, she would have known that James was becoming a fan favourite
psh, taeshi hates gay people, everyone knows that
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>>151019728
And I just think it's understandable that Mike would not easily be able to explain himself well while he's extremely emotionally distraught (which he has been for this whole scene).. Mike is also saying he regrets it and wishes he never did it. Sure he is not stating in in a perfect, therapy-trained manner but he clearly is expressing guilt and regret and not saying he did nothing wrong.
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i think someone genuinely needs to kick the shit out of augustus and not have it be some epic Machiavellian scheme about how we live in a society
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>>151019774
>At least your mother fucking loved you.
That line defines Bcb.
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>>151019745
On Rachel's side it's probably more likely with depressed Mike. Dunno about Mike being for it with how he is about relationships since Rachel's kind of an infamous slut even if she'd probably be good for him.
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>>151019745
Interesting idea. He's certainly pathetic enough for Rachel nowadays and would lack Paulo's shortcoming of pining for another girl the whole time they're together. The only issue is that Mike not be "fun" enough by comparison. He'd be very sweet to Rachel but she might be looking for something a big spicier.
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>>151019586
>At Least Your Mother Fucking Loved You.

So why couldn't Taeshi just have Paulo apologize for constantly being shitty to Abbey?

Why could she only go with Paulo guilt tripping him about parental abandonment? Abbey's situation is still worse because his mother loved him and died. Having a big connection with someone and then having it ripped away unfairly like that is much worse than not having the connection at all.
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>>151019836
to be fair to a comic about a bunch of retarded teenagers, i honsestly wouldnt expect that kind of introspection from a child either as opposed to lashing out defensively
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>>151019745
You have Rachel feeling kind of stressed after the whole play shit, sees Mike and notices he's broken now, knows he's not really available but that hasn't really stopped her before and for pettier reasons, she tries to seduce him but instead gets a wet soggy mess of a person that just wants to hold onto someone. This reminds her of Paulo so she's hesitant at first but sees he needs it and she doesn't mind the hugging, they spend the night like this, no sex
Next day with a clearer head Mike comes to Rachel to apologize and try to explain himself to find someone very understanding of his situation and saying she doesn't mind if he wants to talk more, she doesn't have much to do. They talk on the couch and end up kind of leanin on each other. No sex
Some days after Mike comes to Rachel, not for complaining but just to thank her and see how she's doing, she starts also unloading on Mike and he agrees to spend a while with her. They end up on her bed. Very much sex
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>>151019745
You know how broken protagonists in old books/movies/plays had a consolation prize in the form of getting together with a former prostitute/slut?

Yeah, like that
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>>151019894
>They end up on her bed. Very much sex
You had me at this part
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if Mike and Rachael did start something together, they'd probably have to keep it secret. Nobody from her camp would let that shit fly and would try to get Mike to screw off.


Plus she's gonna have some work on her hands, because after this whole event, I can't see Mike opening up to anyone for a good while.
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>>151019836
Paulo's mom left him when he was like 10, so he probably thought his mom loved him and had a lot of memories of her before she ditched him and went permanent no contact. Still not anywhere near as bad as what happened to Abbey but that would definitely suck
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>>151017085
When is grey cat going to throat-punch white bitch and claim the other 3 fags for his gay harem?
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>>151019551
Augustus is that type of person that's all bark and no bite. He's essentially.
Cartman but more pathetic and not as entertaining.
Here's hoping Alejandro grabs the little wuss. The dude needs to be put in his place.
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I don't understand how we went from this two weeks ago to current David. Between this and the patreon comments that talk about James witnessing Mike assault Paulo (he didn't), I'm convinced nobody remembers what happens in this comic including the author.
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>>151019822
>The only issue is that Mike not be "fun" enough by comparison. He'd be very sweet to Rachel but she might be looking for something a big spicier.
I mean, Mike has been shown to be snarky and teasing with people he's close and comfortable with. Not Paulo levels of assholery, sure, but maybe Rachel would still like it.
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>>151019793
I retain this sneaking suspicion that this whole situation with James is a clumsily reskinned Daisy and Paulo plot that could not survive Taeshi's careless writing choices. Notice how neatly things falls into place with a few alterations:
>James = Daisy who finally gets to try things out with Mike and ends up falling for Paulo instead
>David = Paulo who never got all that close to Mike
>Augustus = Yashi who is pissed at Mike for all his past sins against Lucy and brings out the receipts
>Lucy = Lucy who is willing to hold the suicide attempt against Mike instead of this letters bullshit
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>>151019795
It's also worth considering Mike did feel guilty in that moment, not that he might be leading him out but that he was third wheeling him and David because he was feeling very insecure about how fast he was dropped. Some argue that he had no place feeling like that when he also rejected James but the latter pretty much said he would support and befriend Mike DESPITE not being in a relationship, and Mike is dealing with the shock. Basically his answer at that moment would have damned him anyway, he was about to talk to James about it but now it was too late
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>>151019950
>Mike spikes Yashy into the ground like a football
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>>151019774
Finally, someone who gets it. Abbey's main problem was his black and white worldview. He treated all the girls like innocent princesses (except Sue, guess she doesn't even qualify as a girl in his eyes, lmao) and treated Paulo as a one-dimensional villian who molests everything he touches.
That's why this line is fine. Its purpose was never to outjerk Abbey's tragic past, but to merely humanize Paulo. And I can see it working. I understand that "And least your mother fucking loved you" is funny as hell, but I'd love to see people finally accept it.

>>151019728
> he just never explains himself and then things blow up in his face over supposed misunderstanding
I don't think it really matters, as Mike shouldn't even be in a position to explain himself. It's bizzare that James didn't rush to his side as soon as this unfamiliar girl has violently kicked his previous crush in the guts.
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>>151019836
>Be Abbey
>tell your battered mom that dad is cheating on her
>he beats the shit out of her
>stall him so the popo can take him away
>get guilt tripped by your dad that everything falling apart was your fault for not keeping a secret
>be sent away to live with strangers
>think for years that your mother abandoned you
>surprise, she's been dead all this time!
>hope you like having your survival guilt redoubled for doubting her!
>not even a year later Paulo the Shithead tries to whine that you have it better than he does because your foster parents have money
Realistically I'd have expected a red haze to fall and for Abbey to not even realize Paulo didn't mean it as an insult until long after he'd gotten suspended for attacking Paulo right there in front of the principal's office. It's a shame Taeshi always picks the most nothing options available!
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>>151019947
I agree that Mike's capable of it, but probably not for a while. He'd have to grow into it with Rachel and that would be hard without her guidance because he doesn't want to fuck things up.
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>>151019950
>still riding this retarded theory
if your theory revolves around the pets still being part of the comic then its a sign your theory sucks ass. there is no room for daisy in this situation let alone in james' position, she knows what happened with lucy. its time to move on
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>>151019981
Yelling at a kid would certainly look bad.
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>>151019950
Lucy bringing up the middle school letters bullshit was insane, if she brought up her suicide attempt or eternal flame it would have made much more sense
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>>151019985
teehee
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>>151019805
Remind yourself of the line least you end up expecting actual writing and satisfying plot progression from this comic
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>>151019996
Weird overreaction on your part.
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>>151019950
>I retain this sneaking suspicion that this whole situation with James is a clumsily reskinned Daisy and Paulo plot that could not survive Taeshi's careless writing choices
It has to be that
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>>151019794
I'm surprised she hasn't got canceled yet and there are a ton of reasons for it.
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>>151019996
Supposedly Taeshi has had the vague outlines of the whole plot for a very long time, could be long enough she had old ideas from when the pets were still around
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>>151020028
>erm heh weird much
reddit
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>>151020041
Gays are hated, buddy. Lesbians only get the pass cause 'it looks hot lol'.
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>>151019270
Yeah I can't believe the guy that saw his mom being beaten to death is so protective of women, fucking incel amirite
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>>151019909
Mike unleashes years of frustration and rage and this is the best he's felt in years. Rachel learns that Mike isn't just a speed runner but a resistance one
The cuddles are nice too
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>>151019270
>>151020066
Hes not even that bad because he didnt even give a fuck about how Mike handled Lucy. He just hates Augustus (for good reason) and overreacted to Paulo. Paulo's an asshole
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>>151020090
Dayim, is that based on Jucika?
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>>151020049
>doubling down
So a random bullshit theory pissed in your cheerios so hard you threw a fit and fantasized about sounding like the mature one.
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>>151020118
It's so weird that you're responding like this?
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>>151019795
Mike not being able to perfectly articulate it would be one thing and I'd understand that, but everytime he's asked to explain he blanks completely, mind you I'm referencing the next page and the dialogue I posted up there is verbatim
Mike starts to say "If I could go back and do it again" the panel turns grey and he has nothing to say, which has happened a few times now.
If your friend's response to "Ok what's the truth then?" is consistently "..." then you can't be blamed at all for taking the only side who even put their story forward.
>>151019950
It'd certainly explain why Paulo and Daisy were beefing for so many chapters then it just crashes to a complete halt and they're suddenly dating in just one chapter.
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>>151020062
True, but what would happen if she was cancelled?
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>>151020090
>best girl gets the best art
As it should be
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i love how these are probably among the most active threads on /co/
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>>151020134
>getting mocked on 4chan for being dumb?
>wuh-what?!
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>>151019822
I guess you could argue that even someone like Rachel will eventually mellow(like most people) and want to settle down, whenever someone is 'spicy' or not.

The real problem here will be maintaining relationship when she graduates
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>>151020168
Heh, maybe you should calm down, you're kiiiiind of overreacting.
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>>151020118
>>151020134
>>151020168
>it's a deranged faggot ruins the rest of the thread talking to himself episode
Oh boy my favorite
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Question for everyone here

How would you is all react if Alejandro paid Augustus a little visit to 'talk' with his gang?
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>>151019985
Indeed, by itself it's a stupid phrase trying to one up a person in an actual bad situation, but it was the kind of lashing someone who has no way to explain how it's all about him hurting would do. There was an edit of the page that made the whole thing work wonderfully by anon here, where Paulo actually explains himself while in tears that he searched for his mom in Facebook (this is before he actually did it in the comic) and saw that not only was she living relatively close, but she had remarried and had kids and a new life, and how they all seemed like nice people and he couldn't handle how much it hurt thinking that he was the reason she left, something like that
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>>151020196
>erm heh aktually i'm very mature
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>>151020062
Not even that, her usage of suicide as a get out of jail free card would have had places like Tumblr after her ass if that place didn't self destruct after banning porn
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>>151020226
Yep... pretty awkward.
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>>151020213
Prior to all this shit he started I would feel bad. Now I hope he ends up on the news.
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No VCD?
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>>151020197
>it's a brainlet tries to sneer down at others to make him feel like a big boy thread
Oh boy my favorite
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>>151020213
Eh, I assume Lucy's security blanket won't be put in traction, but he could use a good asskicking after recent events.
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>>151020267
>still posting
uh, yikes.
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>>151020237
For you
>bane.jpg
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>>151020286
Like, oh my gawsh girlfriend! For shurah!
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>>151020213
That would be actually advancing the plot. We don't do that on BCB
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>>151020276
It could make for an interesting change if her current security blanked is pulled under her and now she's stuck with the table and Paulo can't simp for her anymore. What does she do now aside from trying to make Paisy break up? Probably go look for him at his house only to find no one, not even his junkie parents
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>>151020234
I feel like tumblr of all places would agree with her
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>>151020310
I want Alejandro to go all Booty Warrior on Augustus
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Gus is kind of a victim in all this too. He was getting better and being normal until lucy screamed at him for being boring and started all this
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>>151017085
I've only been reading these threads and not the comic, What the fuck did this Mike character even do thats so horrible? Or do I have torture myself reading the entire thing?
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>>151019911
Mike would be at his absolute lowest
Rachel: I can cure his depression by sucking it out of him
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>>151020398
he didnt respect women. hopefully you learn from his mistake
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>>151020213
I wouldn't feel bad. After the shit he pulled this chapter, he deserves to have any good times ruined.
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>>151020398
he owes the white cat sex
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>>151020062
BPD women don't hate gays for the same reasons normal people hate gays.
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>>151020398
He told a girl that had been abusing him for years and acting like she only need him as a replacable securty blanket to fuck off. She then tries to kill herself despite him apologizing for it beforehand and having no clue she'd go that far.


For the past decade and some change, the whole comic has just been Punishing Mike for daring to not let Lucy do whatever she wants to him and being in a relationship with another girl instead.
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>>151020398
He simply told off his mentally and physically abusive so-called 'friend'. She couldn't handle being told that she was a piece of shit and try to off herself by jumping.
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>>151020380
Yeah. It sucks that he's turned back into a douchebag after kind of being a normal sweet guy for a while.
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>>151020320
>It could make for an interesting change if her current security blanked is pulled under her
I do actually wonder how Lucy would handle that. You're not wrong that Paulo, her would-be target, is taken. The fact that Paulo chose Daisy over her (despite her repeatedly pushing him away) does rhyme with her Michael psychosis, and would probably lead to mounting resentment. Lucy definitely has an inferiority complex when it comes to Sandy, given she thinks winning Mike from her is impossible, but Daisy? Lucy's never seen Daisy as a viable rival. "Losing" to her, per Lucy's own fruitloop definition, should bruise white cat's ego pretty good. James is gay so he's not even a runner up, and David can't ping her radar because he's not a real character. I predict that Lucy would soon gravitate back toward Mike, but keep it to a wide deniable orbit. She'd also get increasingly erratic toward all her friends as the stress of not knowing what happened to Augustus gets to her.
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>>151020398
He friendzoned the white cat, then got tired of her hitting him in the face for no reason and didn't trust that she'd stop even if he asked her.
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>>151017085
Any artists on?
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>>151020320
She'd move on to David. Taeshi likes David/Lucy.
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>>151020450
>and being in a relationship with another girl instead.
You forget the part where Lucy also rebuffed any attempt by Mike's semi-autistic ass to start a relationship with her.
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>>151020398
Nah, just read this page.
Long story short, Mike's been looking out for Lucy, but by the time she decided to confess her love for him, he was already fed up with her abuse and didn't take her over Sandy. They stopped talking for a while and when Lucy tried to reconnect she's been hit with this page.
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>>151020398
(((Emotional cheating))) or smth
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>>151020457
To be frank, I wasn't happy with castrated Augustus and, in theory, would have appreciated a return to his snarkier self. But of course Taeshi implemented that horribly, turning him into an awful hybrid of both versions.
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>>151020465
Genuine question. Has Mike tried to talk to Lucy like this, but seriously, and has it ever worked for him? I am drawing a blank on where it worked, and she didn't change her mind later.
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>>151019705
>establish that Mike has deep insecurities about people only liking him out of romantic infatuation
>introduce a character who proves him right, down to the letter, with absolutely no remorse
I feel like this would be fine as a season of a TV show or something, but when it takes place over the span of like three years it gives people too fucking long to latch onto him.
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>>151020457
Him turning back into a douchebag would actually be a good plot point if there were consequences and he was punished for it. However, chances are that it won't happen. As we all know, anything shitty is inconsequential as long as Mike is on the receiving end.
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>>151020477
David would 100% cheat on her lol
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>>151020136
>every time
How many times has that been? Twice? First time was with Lucy, who he had just reunited with and had a lot of complicated feelings about, and the second time is this extremely upsetting situation.
Consider that before this happened, James is friends with Mike and does not know these people. Mike had told James he had done something bad and ruined a relationship in his past. James was nothing but glowing and supportive. Suddenly a random dude shows up and starts harassing his friend in a comically villainous manner about said past until he lashes out. When he starts to get mad and defend himself, the girl involve kicks him and shares her side of the story instead. It seems kind of weird and shitty to very immediately take the side of these random people, only asking if it's true in a pretty disingenuous way that makes it clear you have already mostly made up your mind, and take any display of Mike's distress as a sign of further guilt. Mike is making desperate excuses sure, but he probably wouldn't be if he wasn't put on the spot, made to feel like total shit, and about to lose his new friend over all of this.
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>>151020482
Is it sorta funny in an ironic way that Mike's prediction for this part turned out wrong
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the faster we hit autosage the sooner we all go home
you're welcome btw
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>>151020536
Mike said in the drunk confession that he felt alone, and he was bullshitting just to hurt Lucy. When was the last time this group actually hung out?
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>>151020457
>>151020380
>>151019774
>Augustus is going inside with this stupid attitude of his
>Abbey will be there, and they never did made up, so Abbey still hates Augustus for sure
>Mike is all depressed n crap
>Mike is still Abbey's friend
if this does not lead to a confrontation is because Abbey was evaporated as a character
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>>151020551
You're not even close to baseline.
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>>151020536
Mike knew it would be the opposite from the start. He just wanted to Hurt Lucy.
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>>151020465
>12 years ago
is this comic just running in circles
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>>151020477
David has no real interest in women tho, hilariously the most interest in sex with women he's had is if Paulo is doing the fucking
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>>151020536
I don't believe Mike ever actually believed what he said there, he was just trying to hurt Lucy. He says this just a minute beforehand, it doesn't make any sense to believe that everyone is only nice to him if he does his job as her teddy bear, and then turn around and say that they all like him much more than her. It doesn't make what he said better but I don't think he ever truly believed that.
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>>151020536
Mike later admitted at Rachel's party, a few chapters later, that he'd absolutely gaslit Lucy about this to hurt her. Gray cat actually believed exactly the opposite, that everyone would side with Lucy over him if given the choice. Which did turn out to be correct, albeit in a very dumb and contrived way.
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>>151020551
Cool spacing
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>>151020578
Before the retcons came for volume 1 there used to be a female dog he would obsessively stalk
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>>151020551
Cool, we've got our own Augustus now who's purposefully getting hit according to his keikaku.
When are we getting our own James then?
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>>151020588
>Mike
>Right
Nothing new
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>>151020551
Why are you photoshopping posts just to take credit for being a sperg?
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>>151020579
Mike was just fed up, but he was half right and half wrong.
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>>151020579
I don't know what is sadder. That's what Mike is saying, here is true or the fact that the correct answer will be to go back to playing along.
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>>151020506
A couple times and Lucy either brushes it off or has a melty if Mike yells at her. Lucy knows Mike doesn't like being treated like that but she's not willing to change because "he always comes back"
>>151020536
It's funny how Lucy is so stupid that she can't figure out that between
>people were only nice to me to keep you happy
>also they'd totally side with me btw
one of them must be bullshit
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>>151020596
The flower girl!
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So was there any real reason that instead of lucy having to change, Taeshi just decided to have Mike's entire life fall apart back to back like this?

The shit isn't even hinted at or spaced out. At first it was just sandy but then it seems like she's having everything around him collapse all in the span of a week. None of it feels organic.
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>>151020564
Abbey already saw Daisy was hanging with Augustus back on the test chapter, she even tried to excuse him and herself unprompted and Abbey's reaction was "I need to go anyway". Sure he'll be worried if Mike doesn't show up but he doesn't have a reason to go straight to Augustus, even less considering he's not going to be hanging around Lucy but with the LGBT squad
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>>151020669
Are you really asking why Veronica is reluctant to subject her own Mary Sue self-insert to change?
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>>151020595
Look, okay, I'm a moron, alright? Be nice.
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>>151020675
who in the LGBT squad knows Gus forced himself on Daisy besides Jordan?
plus Abbey will have to tolerate being in a room with him, which I still doubt he won't be sour about
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>>151020669
Taeshi considers that post December pre jump was "enough suffering" for her fursona and now had to make up for it
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>>151020724
He already spent months seething about sharing the cafeteria with Paulo and Jasmine had to snap him out of it, I doubt we are getting a repeat
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>>151020675
>>151020724
Look, we all know the plot will tie itself into knots and Abbey will go so OOC that it hurts, all so that the Mike beatings continue.
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>>151020730
how long did "December" last real time? Because the sperg era started back in the mid 2010s. I already know Mike's suffering has gone on way longer but I don't remember the depressed Lucy arc being that long.
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>>151020767
December was posted in october 2011, her post suicide attempt chapter was posted may 2013
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>>151020785
so a year and seven months.
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>>151020831
I remember thinking at the time how that whole era dragged on for so long. Oh, blessed ignorance.
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>>151020398
I'll just say it as i remember:

Like others have said, Mike Greycat was childhood friends with Lucy Whitecat. They always had feelings for each other. Lucy is supposed to be the 'tsundere' archetype, so she often denied her feelings and smacked him and other characters unprovoked. Not too big of a problem so far, it's all fairly standard romcom stuff.

Mike Greycat got sort of fed up and started to get closer to another white cat, Called Sandy. Sandy was, at the time, sweet and caring, and more straightforward with her feelings. Mike started to get closer to her, much to Lucy Whitecat's dismay, but they remained friends.

Lucy couldn't let the situation go, so she kept trying to get closer to Mike Greycat while still denying her feelings. No longer tolerating her on and off behavior, Mike said this stuff >>151020482. This obviously affected Lucy deeply.

Mike felt bad and apologized later on, saying that he knew he went too far and that they could try and still be friends. Lucy agreed, but she still had hard feelings, so she attempted suicide by jumping off a building. She failed her attempt, and stayed away for a while to heal and treat herself. People knew she got hurt, but most didn't know the details and the reasons why. She came back, but things were different between her and everyone else, specially Mike.

Mike's own relationship has been deteriorating; his once sweet and caring GF losing interest and cheating on him, which made him try to get things back together with Lucy, but he changed his mind on the same day for no reason, and decided to forgive his cheating GF. Lucy felt betrayed (which is fair in this case IMO), and things have been specially hellish ever since.
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>>151020854
It's fair to add that Mike felt responsible for Lucy jumping, and she played around with this when she came back, but only where he and her patsy would listen, no one else. And the reason he took Sandy back was a mix of guilt from that situation happening again and that she supposedly already changed her whole work schedules and fired the guy she was cheating him with, so he owed her a second chance
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>>151020854
>Lucy felt betrayed
It still boggles me that Lucy only cared that Mike had gone back to Sandy instead of committing to a relationship neither of them had agreed to, and nothing else. Girl has brain problems.
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>>151019290
KEK what is this lol
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>>151019290
Vintage bcb autism
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>>151020996
After she started rubbing herself against Augustus' because he called her 'cute' I don't think Mike seduced her, I think she's just a slut.
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>>151020749
>>151020765
I really just want to see an excuse to see Abbey and Gus throw hands
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>>151021031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHnIV0mqCLA
Have some more kino
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>>151020930
I dunno man, the way she talked on the phone when she admitted to cheating on him didn't give any hint of regret at all.

I dunno. Personally I wouldn't have forgiven her, but I guess Mike did struggle with guilt; he didn't want to risk the same thing happening with Sandy, too.
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>>151021077
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>>151020595
>erm I can tell from the spacing you photoshopped it
reddit
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>>151020528
Off the top of my head, Mike's nightmare, Mike and Lucy talking after dodgeball, Eternal Flame, Date Night, and then three times alone in this chapter (four if you're being generous)
>Is that true?
Mike says nothing
>Is what they all said true?
Mike says nothing again
>James walks away and Mike pleads one last time and gets James attention
Mike starts to say "it's not that easy" and then stops himself, effectively saying nothing.
I can make the collage if it's really necessary but you can check those if you like.
From James' point of view yeah these weirdos just started being hostile to Mike, and initially James was hostile to them in return, but as the dirt kept coming out and James was hearing a lot of shit and almost nothing in the terms of defense from Mike what was he supposed to think?
and instead of Mike explaining himself he attacks the guy who was talking, again, from his POV this is all he's been given, there's no reasonable way someone would watch their friend act like this, someone who they were pulling away from anyway, and not just choose to follow their new crush David.
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>>151020602
We already have one it's me.
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>>151020398
He rejected his domestic abuser.
>>151020466
Do I count?
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>>151020567
What?
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>>151021116
>going this far
I made both the first and third of those posts.
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>>151021161
No god damn it
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>>151021066
Then they kiss and fuck.
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>>151021116
Well, THAT just happened. Cant believe im reading this post in big 2025.
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>>151020213
Laugh
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Honestly the only reason I keep up with these threads is for the catharsis when Gray Cat inevitably tries to kill himself and everybody else hears about it
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>>151019290
one night a couple of years ago I had insomnia
just when I was about to go to bed the image of CGI Polo would pop in my head and I then would be wide awake
that happened to whole night, it was the worse
Dan Hooper, I have a personal reason to hate you, I had a morning shift, you made me tired and miserable for a whole night and day with this shit
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>>151021102
>It's my fault isn't it.
Hot damn, Lucy's suicide attempt really fucked him up. Mike seems to have taken more damage from it and he hasn't tried to kill himself.

>dirt kept coming out and James was hearing a lot of shit and almost nothing in the terms of defense from Mike what was he supposed to think?
What fucking dort. All he heard was the equivalent of some stranger saying horseshit purposefully meant to aggregate someone else. If so.epne spews bullshit there isn't much to say especially when the person who he says it against cannot say " oh I was actually the abused one and I called Lucy a cunt parasite and after apologize she tried to kill herself". Even when Mike attempted to state his own case in story Lucy kicked him and then said a bunch bullshit. She literally stopped him from fucking talking, shifting blame and then gaslight the conversation. Even in a calm situation there is little Mike can say to Seay James since James already made up his own fucking mind the minute he said.
>You're messed up
Anything Mike says afterward won't say a fucker who says that.
God I hate this entire chapter and wrapping it up in the dumbest fuckingway by doing the obvious thing just to have some forced fucking conflict.
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>>151021246
Bottom half was meant for >>151021121
Tldr. This is retarded and no actual dirt was brought up. Just a stranger who said he was gonna bully someone to.comply. said some shit without backing for bait and enough gaslight to explode the average American home.
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>>151021121
>dream
I'm not going to count a dream considering he's not actually speaking to anyone but his own mind.
>dodgeball
I mentioned that one
>Eternal Flame
He was not asked to explain about December at all in that chapter. He apologized for hurting her and said he fucked things up a few times. If you mean him getting back with Sandy, Lucy explicitly tells him not to explain anything to her.
>Date Night
He wasn't really asked to explain anything. He volunteered the information to James that he ruined a relationship and said he did not deserve kindness. James does not ask for any more details.
>this chapter
It's a little autistic to count every time someone asked him a question in this chapter like a completely different and new situation, or as if Mike had time to calmly reflect after each one and gather his thoughts rationally.
For the rest I'm not saying what James so looks good, but the only reason he's so quick to shaft Mike is like you point out here
>someone who they were pulling away from anyway, and not just choose to follow their new crush David
aka he no longer has a crush on Mike and thus cares a lot less about him because James only really cares about whoever he happens to hyperfocus on, showing that he's a shitty and shallow friend.
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>>151021221
>catharsis
Bold of you to assume Taeshi wouldn't portray Mike's neckroping as an immediate and substantial improvement to everyone else's lives.
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>>151021286
I'm not saying what James saw looks good*
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>>151019514
>Both white cats are shit though
Nah, Sandy is based. And she BTFOs Lucy and Daisy effortlessly, which is always good.
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>>151021171
But I clearly made them all?
Both these posts are still mine by the way guys :)
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>>151021286
>It's a little autistic to count every time someone asked him a question in this chapter like a completely different and new situation, or as if Mike had time to calmly reflect after each one and gather his thoughts rationally.
This convo might be at best 5 minutes. So no, Mike hasn't had time to come up with shit. James is a snake, yes. Mike was trying to talk to James prior to.this bullshit and now we will never know what.
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>>151021299
>Lucy occasionally cries about wishing Mike would have let her save him like she'd intended
>his grave is otherwise peed upon
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>>151019658
>It's weird how she can just fall like that and have no scars, limps, or bouts of body pain considering it hasn't even been a year yet since.
Her father's a race car driver, his insurance covers reconstructive surgery and rehabilitation therapy in the event of complex impact trauma.
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>>151021299
Your assuming she would even let Mike neck rope properly instead of making it hurt so he can be "saved". A bad suicide by rope is very painful and will make your hands dirty with your own blood.
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>>151019774
The issue is Abbey's reaction isn't framed as disgusted pity. He immediately drops the (completely correct) disdain and reaches over to pat Paulo on the back.

He doesn't have the attitude or bearing of someone thinking "Oh jesus, this guy's pathetic. He doesn't see Daisy as a conquest, he sees her as a surrogate mommy.", he acts like it legitimately got to him.
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>>151021386
Paulospace is weaker than Lucyspace, but it did net him both Abbey, Mike, and Jasmine.
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>>151021155
You like dog dick
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>>151021386
>he sees her as a surrogate mommy
That really does nail their relationship kek
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>>151019113
No only Jasmine can now.
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>>151021102
Genuinely Mike's still better off with Sandy than spending even one more minute with Lucy and her thralls. Even if she doesn't regret it. Hell, even if she's STILL fucking the guy. Being an unironic cuck is better than dealing with lucy because at least Sandy cares about him to any degree, enough to at least admit she was cheating at least. That's how bad it's gotten, Taishi accidentally wrote bad evil Goldie as still preferable to herself.
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>>151021488
Honestly Jasmine probably would be a much healthier relationship for him.

At worst you might get a mike that's more religious than he should be to overcompensate, but that's about it. Otherwise she seems very stable.
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>>151019836
>So why couldn't Taeshi just have Paulo apologize for constantly being shitty to Abbey

I don't think Taeshi can write a way in which Paulo's allowed to be self-reflective, we would have been out of the Paulo Show in 2-3 chapters. Either that or she genuinely thinks Trauma-bonding is the only way people can reconcile.
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>>151021501
The problem is you're constantly told how desirable and "actually" kind and lovely Lucy is supposed to be but there's NOTHING showing so in the actual comic, her resting position is "annoyed and above it all"
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>>151021299
you might think that’d make it worse but imagine getting a chapter where Lucy breaks the news to everyone that Mike tried to kill himself and they all celebrate. She then has a nervous breakdown when she realizes how truly heartless and evil everyone is, everytime she’s turned somebody against him rebounds onto her tenfold. Not only is this her fault, she’s the only person in the entire world besides his family that cares. When people realize she feels guilty over what happened, they treat her like a victim of Mike’s manipulation, which only makes her feel worse.

She tries to get them to sign a get well soon card, they all refuse. She tries to visit him in the hospital but is escorted out because her mere presence gives Mike a panic attack. She even tries to reach out to Sandy but she’s already dropped him and hooked back up with Francis. IMAGINE.
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>>151021246
what lol
>>151021286
>It's a little autistic to count every time someone asked him a question in this chapter like a completely different and new situation, or as if Mike had time to calmly reflect after each one and gather his thoughts rationally
How is that autistic, it's three separate instances where Mike was given an opportunity to explain himself and the supposed nuance of December and instead said nothing, counting it as one big thing is incredibly unfair.
He was given 3-4 points in this one conversation to say anything in his defense and CHOSE not to, he didn't try and make a bad defense he just put the ball in Lucy's court.
Imagine being James and this guy you just met has been moping for at least a month about how awful he is, and how you're going to hate him eventually, and one day some dude he has history with starts explaining all the bad things Mike's done and Mike has nothing to defend himself besides attacking the messenger and yelling about a girl James doesn't know anything about (Who Mike spent their date night saying he feels guilty over)
It's not even as if James is just choosing their side over Mike, Mike refused to even HAVE a side, James is asked to either follow his crush David along to his group who basically said everything they wanted to say and completely controlled the narrative due to Mike's lack of a spine, or stay alone outside with him despite already preferring to be with David in the first place.
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>>151021501
>Genuinely Mike's still better off with Sandy
This
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>>151021541
Also he's male Lucy and admitting you're wrong is against the contract
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>>151021550
This would be interesting.

So there's no way taeshi would do it.

She'd probably just have everyone shit on him for saying how he did it for attention unlike Lucy, who had "real mental issues"
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>>151021546
That's why Seeing how things were for Lucy when she was apparently at another school would have been interesting. Logically, hardly anyone would put up with her shit where she's at now.

At a whole new school? Her old tactics would just piss everyone off and she'd end up isolating herself. She couldn't be stand off ish there like she could back with the usual group because people at the new school really would just leave her alone.
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>>151021331
A fellow piss fetishist I see.
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>>151020398
>White Cat bitch is childhood friend
>She's an abusive BDP cunt but he just sort of takes it for years
>She's obsessed with him
>He tries to hook up with her
>Gets pushed away and rejected (I think repeatedly) despite the mixed signals
>Okay. He hooks up with other girl friend who is a model or something
>White cat "supports" the relationship between Grey Cat and Model Cat but still kind of a passive aggressive cunt and physically abusive as per her usual (to the point of causing actual damage)
>Model Cat points out "Hey Grey Cat, people shouldn't physically abuse you. That's fucking bad and the person who does that is an asshole."
>Suddenly clicks to Grey Cat that White Cat is an abusive cunt
>Grey Cat goes overboard and delivers devastating verbal beatdown on White Cat basically telling her to fuck off when she is trying to do damage control on their crumbling relationship
>White Cat big sad
>Grey Cat realizes he went too far and apologizes to White Cat, asking if they could just start over fresh.
>White Cat agrees.
>White Cat proceeds to try and fucking kill herself because she was going to be sent away due to the whole thing and she couldn't deal with it especially after him offering a do over
>White Cat fails to kill herself successfully. Ends up sent to psyche ward and such disappearing for awhile
>White Cat eventually returns with negative character development and treating Mike like he's worse than Hitler while perpetually guilt tripping him over her trying to kill herself and gas lighting him about their horrible relationship
>Things just continue to deteriorate from here where Grey Cat's fears are constantly affirmed and White Cat suffering zero consequences when she is pretty much always the aggressor or in the wrong.
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>Main comic is basically just Mike torture
>Meanwhile the Lucy fan comic in the booru is poppin' off
The fuck is going on with this comic.
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>>151020536
Mike didn't even really believe it at the time. He was just saying shit to hurt her because she hurt him so much and for so long.
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>>151020398
Run before you get enslaved by this comic!
Nobody escapes this experience unchanged!
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MissHedgey is FAKE NEWS FOLKS
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>>151021642
Which fan comic? Surely not the one anon is making about dead Mike?
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>>151021551
This conversation has been going on for a few minutes, and Mike hasn't been "given an opportunity" like it's something being generously bestowed to him, he's been cornered and accused of things and put into a defensive position. If James liked Mike at all he would not completely make up his mind and write him off that quickly when these other people started it, he has more connection to Mike than those people, and Mike is clearly very distressed. You're now saying that it's natural for James to hate Mike because he was mopey so sure I guess. Lucy has been much more mopey than Mike but it's only worthy of being despised by your friends for when Mike does it.
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>>151021624
Would Taeshi have it any other way?
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>>151021550
Nah they'd probably treat Mike fine if she suddenly supported it and would sign a card. It's just Mike should tell them all to fuck off and to shove the card up their collective asses
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cant take this shit anymore, not even the threads can hold me any longer, this shit sucks so much ass it's unbeliavable
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>>151021681
It seems like that was just the opening.
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>>151021677
What the hell is going on?
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>>151019896
>Mike wrapped his scarf tighter against the cold winds.
>February is a cold month, and Roseville is a cold city. The line between the right and wrong side was sharper than a pocketknife, and just as likely to cut you if you crossed it.
>He'd had experience with that himself, with that Augustus's old boss running a hustle on him.
>'Course, that stooge's NEW boss ran an even meaner racket. She didn't break hearts, she destroyed them.
>Mike was just thinking maybe he should swear off dames entirely and see if the rougher sex has anything to offer, when he spotted a floppy-eared little dame with a low top named Rachel.
>She was looking like she'd had a bad day. He knew better than to get involved, but no-one who knew Mike ever called him discrete. It was his biggest liability, even over being unable to hold his drink.
>He asked what was wrong. She turned her big, watery eyes to him and he saw himself in them as she shrugged and said "Nothing, sweetie.".
>Something about the way she said it hit him in the chest like a slug, but with none of the malice.
>He didn't really hear what he said back, but it must have been the wrong thing, because she teared up and started telling her story.
>There were familiar hurts in her - a best friend thinking little, a love that doesn't stay, being taken for granted and taken advantage of.
>Mike listened to it all as the cold wind blew.
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>>151021702
Yeah I wouldn't want to explain myself then and there when Lucy's demonstrated that if you unpack something that doesn't match up to her delusions she'll get violent.
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>>151021702
>accused of things and put into a defensive position.
When it comes ro Augustus housewife analogy was it just huolt stopping Mike from defending himself there? I can't think of any other reason since Augustus was lying through his teeth.
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>>151021734
Crashing this BPD bitch's thread
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>>151021566
Aren't there like 6 different events where he breaks down and cries his way to an apology? He's forgiven since he's pathetic, and the world spins on. Nothing changes, no one grows. Very miserable way to treat a character you like.

Lucy is at least liked in-story, Paulo seems barely tolerated by any character named. Layup of a redemption story for him to grow out of being an ass, and have his arc end with Paisy. Abbey inadvertently has gotten a pretty good send off, since he seems to be on Taeshi's shit list. That is until he sees Paisy in action and has his character assassinated.
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>>151021702
Anon is treating the situation as if Augustus sent Mike an invitation to a debate and he was running the clock avoiding answering questions. Imagine getting jumped by someone claiming that if you don't give them your phone it means you're hiding CP on it and you get arrested because your reaction was astonishment instead of showing him your entire photo gallery
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>>151021757
Mike hates himself too much to ever defend himself for anything until he gets pushed to his limit.
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>>151021785
>cries his way to an apology?
I think that's a key, right there. Lucy got kind of sad during her Halloween apology and Paulo ate it up. She didn't actually change, of course, and only got worse as her mask slipped. Paulo is similar in that he'll cry and sob but still revert back to his old ways.
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>>151021757
It was to rack up his guilt and also bothering, if Mike let himself be convinced he had him in the bag, if Mike lashed out about it he had him acting unwise too
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>>151021736
Good job anon
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>>151021762
Reading this petty forum drama made me remember the good old days...
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>>151021762
God sometimes I forget what a pretentious faggot Suitcase is.
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>>151021762
Textbook narcissism. Tear someone else down so you can talk yourself into disregarding their worth (and thus that nasty negative opinion of theirs which stings your delicate little ego so very badly).
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>>151021785
To be fair Lucy yells her way out of situations very often too which is just as bad, instead of using pity she uses guilt
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I see a lot of discussion about Mike failing to explain himself and whether or not that's justified. What I'm wondering is what you all imagine an explanation would even look like, and whether Mike would be able to get the whole thing out without being stopped or interrupted.
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>>151021815
Well, yeah, but I struggle to think if any defense would work here. Even if you explain that Lucy beat Mike for years, the only thing they might care about is the suicide attempt. No one actually seems to care about the bad blood and shit that led to December.
If Lucy were just like Daisy when it came to Mike's interactions, this reaction would make sense as Mike's actions would be overkill, but Lucy was violent and emotionally messing with Mike. She both said he was all she had but treated him extremely badly for no real reason. You can't use the letters as justification.
>>151021843
>if Mike let himself be convinced he had him in the bag, if Mike lashed out about it he had him acting unwise too
Anon, what you just described is gaslighting.
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>check the comments of today's page
>comments are hoping Mike was going to apologize to James
For what? The fuck does he need to apologize to James for?
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>>151021943
Existing. That lot is legitimately insane
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>>151021922
Given that Mike is successfully gaslit into believing Lucy's batshit letters nonsense, I doubt that Mike even believes he's innocent. Hence not wanting to talk about it.
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>>151021943
Mike is a monster for *checks notes* being love bombed by James and wanting someone to like him that much?
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>>151021943
For everything
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>>151021922
>Mike would be able to get the whole thing out without being stopped or interrupted.
The comic answered that with no.
>>151021943
Nothing, because he hasn't actually said or done anything to James at all.
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>>151021922
Considering he was trying to talk about it with James, his explanation about the lead up could be "I'm not trying to lead you on anything I just want to know why you stoped trying to be close to me" which by itself is a whole different drama, but still way emotional for Mike to handle at the moment. Augustus caught him already weak and hounded him
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>>151021978
Apparently he was leading him on! Except Mike didn't even know James liked him that way until minutes before James lost all interest in Mike. But supposedly Mike wanted to lead him on! And we know this because... he still wanted to hang out with him a lot! And being kind of hurt when James casually insulted him and started ignoring him!
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>>151021943
For Mike bad
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>>151021762
lmao aahhhh memories of stupidity.
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>>151021943
>For what? The fuck does he need to apologize to James for?


Taeshi's fanbase is fucking cooked because they cant imagine a situation with mike and anyone else not being his fault.

At some point again, Taeshi will get mad that her fans hate mike too much for her liking.
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>>151021736
>The damsel shivered in the cold as she spoke. Mike offered her his scarf and she just looked at him like he'd cut off his hand.
>"But you've always worn a scarf... it means something to you, doesn't it?" She asked, rubbing her arms to warm up.
>"Not anymore." He replied.
>Suddenly she hugged onto him like a drowning man to a life preserver, or maybe vice-versa.
>"Come on, let's find someplace warmer." She cooed, pulling him along.
>Mike should have known what she meant by that and demurred, but quick wits were not among his virtues - not since the accident, anyways.
>Even if they were, he'd always been bad at saying no.
>Mike recited these excuses and others in his head as Rachel cuddled up to him afterwards.
>The guilt was lighter than he'd expected - sure, it was there, but it was hard to feel too bad curled up in the arms of a cute gal.
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Some of these comments really boggle the mind. Mike was leading on Pauio now
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>>151021785
>Lucy got kind of sad during her Halloween apology and Paulo ate it up.
>>151021919
>be fair Lucy yells her way out of situations very often too which is just as bad, instead of using pity she uses guilt.

Anons, you are 100% right, which really now stresses the only time anything earnest happens in this comic it's off the back of someone throwing hysterics. None of this comic was going to go anyway but this, huh.
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>>151022088
There is no valid reason for anyone to like Mike, if they do then Mike has done something wrong.
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>>151021943
Jesus fucking christ. This is a cult. There's no other way to describe it.
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>>151021873
Dude he was worst in his forum heyday. Dude would act high and mighty and then fucking bother people on some weird shit that he deemed but trust good lord he would be a fucking prententious shithead lmao.

But the other people that was there was even worst. BasketCase would be towards her namesake and accuse anyone who didn't like her to be someone by the name of South or whatever.
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>>151022088
lmao what? How?! What comic are these people reading where Mike is this guy that just leads on people left and right?

If Lucy wanted Mike so badly, why didn't she just date him when he tried to date her?
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>>151022159
Because she was still mentally destroyed by Sandy from the third grade
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>>151021677
Who the fuck is MissHedgy?
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>>151022088
The fucks is this retard talking about? Sandy, I can sorta see since Mike was a retard who didn't realize he was dating her in like middle school or whatever, but Sandy was cool with him being stupid there.
>Lucy: Rebuffed any attempts to mvoe thir relationship.
>Paulo: NWF'd on New Year's. Paul had been having daydreams about Mike in a jersey but Mike didn't know.
>Daisy: Mike outright rejected Daisy when she tried to move it, and he kept saying no till he got mad and called her gross. Note that Daisy kept pushing. Daisy is the one who initiated the last kiss they ever had.
This better be bait.
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>>151021762
Oh, the “joke” people were angry about was Suitcase putting “Jesus is fucking my girlfriend in heaven” when his girlfriend literally died. This wasn’t just him being upset about relationship drama, this guy was actually grieving. I get being a retard in your early twenties, but that is actual fucking sociopathy and whenever Taeshi dies or if something happens to her in general, I think it’d be so funny if this came back to bite him in the ass.
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>>151022088
They're so fucking high off their own fumes holy shit, it's hilarious that these people exist
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>>151022088
Apparently, subscribing to the patreon for any reason other than leaking pages requires brain damage.
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>>151022088
For what little it's worth I do think Mike led Daisy on for a long time, but one instance does not make a pattern.

I could vaguely entertain an argument that he led Lucy on prior to her failed confession, but I don't think it counts since she vociferously denied wanting to be more than friends whenever anyone asked.

Sandy DID become his girlfriend, so "leading on" is a ridiculous accusation. Mike isn't a great boyfriend, but he's never "led her on".

And Paulo has repeatedly, over multiple years even in-universe, floated the idea with Mike, and every time been let down as gently as possible.

So 1/4, which is a failing grade regardless of rubric.
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>>151022193
It makes this place alright. At least I can understand most points here.
>>151022170
That would mean Lucy is the problem then, if Mike's 3rd-grade bullshit and the letters bother her to the point she self-sabotages a relationship she wants. It would make her the most pathetic person in this comic.
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>>151022225
>For what little it's worth I do think Mike led Daisy on for a long time
How? By telling her no, over and over and over again?
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>>151022225
Mike being friends with people who are attracted to them = leading them on. I swear this idea did not even exist before this chapter but now retards are parroting it.
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>>151022225
I think we are going to have to stablish what "being lead on" even means first and foremost, because "he was nice and polite to me instead of reminding me daily I will never have a chance with him " isn't being lead on
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>>151022183
What the fuck, that's disgusting.
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>>151021702
>This conversation has been going on for a few minutes, and Mike hasn't been "given an opportunity" like it's something being generously bestowed to him, he's been cornered and accused of things and put into a defensive position.
This is pedantry, I was using the word opportunity because it was a point in which he could've said something, and I'm not saying it's natural at all for James to hate Mike over just "being mopey"
At this point James has been googoo over David for what, three weeks? Which isn't that much more than he was with Mike when they went on that date, I say this because it's not James choosing between just the other group or Mike, it's two of his friends being split and David is ostensibly on the "right" side.
Before I get anyone saying >right I mean from James' point of view, I'll reiterate.
As far as James has known, Mike was flagellating himself over Lucy the entire time they were friends, Mike offered no nuance and was unconditional in that MIKE thought he was in the wrong, then the time comes where these people Mike was beating himself up over come to bring up their story of what exactly Mike was moping about and it's very bad, Mike at no point offers James any alternative to this, it's just Mike getting mad at Lucy and hurting Augustus which would look a lot like trying to silence him, especially given his refusal to answer James over and over.
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Next chapter is the end of Volume 8 so take your bets how the 'explosive double date' goes.
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>>151021943
The Patreon comments are easily the most cucked part of the webcomic. Even the Discord seems to start disliking James.
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>>151022249
If this is the same guy I think of the argument is that Mike accepted going out with Daisy AS FRIENDS and made sure she knew of this, but it's his fault for not assuming she was lying about that
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>>151022317
Paulo busts on Mike on what the deal with the table and Lucy is causing him to stress out to critical levels again. Mike ends up going "fuck it all" and dumps Sandy. He tears the scarf off and walks away which is how the volume ends
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>>151022340
Cinema
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>>151022183
>Jesus is fucking my girlfriend in heaven
Man I hope this keeps him up at night

>>151022328
>The Patreon comments are easily the most cucked part of the webcomic
Nah man, that's facebook. They have one brain cell between them and it's dedicated to hating Mike.
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>>151022315
That would make more sense if James hadn't shown unconditional support in Mike and said he thought he was for sure a great person despite whatever past he had. It makes him look very flaky especially if you're claiming that he should have already understood Mike to be in the wrong and therefore Lucy and Augustus's story didn't change much. Lucy's reaction also looked just as much like trying to silence Mike as Mike's did towards Augustus, I think it's even on that front. Mike also cowers and cries through this entire confrontation aside from the 30 seconds where he got angry.
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>>151021943
>>151022088
Endlessly fascinated by what started as a simple DeviantArt webcomic drawn by a teenager turning into a reflection of two emotionally stunted 40-somethings' toxic relationship, and how they managed to pull in a readership with an equally narcissistic view of the world.
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>>151022328
If I paid to read this drivel I'd lobotomize myself too

>>151022315
I don't know what you'd expect him to do. Just stand right, calm his breathing, clear his throat and start giving a presentation about his background with Lucy and how it all came to this? Like your idea of a chance to explain himself relies on Augustus and Lucy sitting down and giving him a turn to speak?
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>>151022329
I remember watching that whole autistic argument play out. It sure was something, and went on for way too long.
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>>151022329
Then he is a fucking retard. Daisy herself even fucking said it was a friend date to try and reassure Mike. What she was trying to do was pivot the platonic into romance. Mike has repeatedly fucking said NO. Why the fuck i this a constant issue when Mike says NO to relationship bullshit?
>>151022375
You forgot the part where Augustus, in front of James and everyone there, admits he is just saying this stuff to make Mike go inside. Logically, this makes anything he says heavily biased.

Oh, and Mike mentioned fucking up his relationship with Lucy, for all James knows. Augustus is her new boyfriend and making shit up. Mike was very mean to Lucy once but Augustus exaggerated it to make it sound like he was hunting her out, or Mike forced her to be near him.
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>>151022183
To be clear, Suitnigger was 31 when he made fun of that guy's dead girlfriend
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>>151022287
Daisy was very openly interested in Mike, and their friendship was very flirty until Mike said "no" in the carnival chapter and Daisy started hitting it off with Abbey. Mike wasn't actively "leading her on", but he was happy to let her flirt with and pine after him as long as she didn't cross his unspoken lines.

>>151022329
What you're (still) ignoring is that Mike knew Daisy was lying immediately, he just decided to ignore it because he's allergic to saying "no" and thought he could just wave her off as usual.
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>>151022317
So that makes it an excellent opportunity to kick off Volume 9 with a noticeably different Mike. Taeshi can even put his dead-eyed self right on the cover.
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>>151022436
Was he really 31 in 2012? I thought they were younger than that.
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>>151022438
>ut he was happy to let her flirt with and pine after him as long as she didn't cross his unspoken lines.
Mike was not leading her on passively. That is called having a fucking crush, Daisy had a crush, and Mike didn't return it. He repeatedly made it clear he saw her as a friend.
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>>151022317
I'd like to put 200 on "nothing ever happens".
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>>151022438
Mike was too polite to tell her to shut the fuck up and kill herself just because she gave him unwanted flirtations.
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>>151022438
Leading on still implies one side UNKNOWINGLY accepts the feelings of the other as true not knowing they're being played with, if Daisy knows Mike doesn't want it and that he made it clear this wasn't going to be a date how is that LEADING ON? Your argument is Daisy saying "ok he said no but I didn't listen so it's actually yes! Else he would have said no!'
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>>151022466
Judging by that chat mentally both are still 15
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>>151022317
Considering how Licey's retarded nightmares are getting more frequent as we get closer to 128 either we get the return of Alejandro or Lucy spergs out and screams at everyone about how she blames them for Confrontation (after doing nothing to help Paulo and Sue because they weren't her oneitis)
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>>151022317
The burgertron blows up with the whole cast inside. No survivors
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This leading on Bullshit would make sense if Mike fucked anyone here.
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>>151022538
If only
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Well that was a fast thread
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>>151022438
>and their friendship was very flirty
What kind of hallucinogens are you huffing? Mike told Daisy no and sidestepped her attempts so often that she had no illusions about how he felt. Daisy had to TRICK Mike into going on a supposedly platonic date, guilt-tripping him with this idea he "owed" her that much as part of his apology. Her plan was to SEDUCE him. A course of action she had to be talked into by a third party. What kind of Bizzaro World take on no-means-no do you subscribe to?
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>>151021501
I'd much rather not being with anyone that to be cucked. Mike forgiving her instantly is absurd, I don't think any dude would do what he did and just instantly forgive her on the same day.

Dude should've just taken some time out from all this dating thing. I don't know why it's so important for him to be dating anyone, anyway.
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>>151022481
I guess its pretty obvious the first couple in the double date will be Paulo and Daisy, do we know who the second is supposed to be? My first guess would be Abbey getting involved somehow but its been so long since he mattered I forget if he has anything going on with anybody. The only other big couple that comes to mind is James and David.
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>>151022571
Mike only did it because Sandy guilted him with talk of "I was so scared you'd hurt yourself", and because Mike has experienced guilt over hurting someone who then harms themself, he does not want to ever put Sandy in that position
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>>151022583
woops i forget what post this was actually supposed to reply to
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>>151022375
>That would make more sense if James hadn't shown unconditional support in Mike and said he thought he was for sure a great person despite whatever past he had
Yeah, and then Mike flat out told him not to think he was a good person.
You're misunderstanding, it's not about if Mike was right or wrong, or Augustus was lying or not, it's that James only gets one story and all of Mike's previous comments back it up, then Mike refuses to offer an alternative and leaves James with no choice but to believe what Mike said earlier that he's a bad person.
>>151022434
Again, Augustus could've been literally lying about all of it and it wouldn't matter, Mike never said anything to the contrary, you're asking James to read Mike's mind for the true story and discount everything he just heard, and everything Mike's said about it as well, and saying that he should've because he knows them better is ridiculous because he's been friends with/crushing on David for just as long now as he was Mike.
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>>151022583
What? It's a Paulo and Daisy plus Mike and Sandy date.
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>>151022541
Mike smiled at me once so I thought he was down to fuck, but it seems he was just leading me on
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>>151022571
>I don't know why it's so important for him to be dating anyone, anyway.
It isn't. The Issue is that without Sandy around, Lucy has no reason to mald. Sandy is the only thing that matters.
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>>151022594
Worse, it appears the canonical answer (for whatever that's worth at any given moment) is that Sandy said she'd be all alone without Mike and needed him. Mike didn't want to "abandon" her like he did Lucy after Sandy put in that much alleged "effort" on his behalf.
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>>151022609
He raped you
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>>151022607
And James was insistent on doing so anyway.
My point is still that James's reaction is only reasonable if he's kind of a flaky and shitty friend, which he is.
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>>151022636
He fucking raped me
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>>151022470
>He repeatedly made it clear he saw her as a friend.
Not until later, and not before regularly calling her cute.

>>151022514
>Mike doesn't want it
Careful, now.

But seriously, Mike never did say "no" until that chapter. Up until then, he responded to Daisy's flirting either by playing along or ignoring it. You're holding a double-standard where Daisy should have known Mike wasn't interested and acted accordingly, but Mike had no reason to not go along with Daisy's interest.
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>>151022329
Basically 105% (With a 5% margin of error) of the "Mike led people on" comments from both Taishi and her fans are just then failing to remeber this quote over and over.
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>>151022625
I'm just going by what he told Augustus in the chapter after. She also made him feel like he couldn't say no because she already made career sacrifices for him
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>>151022583
People keep anticipating that it will be Paulo x Daisy and Mike x Sandy because Sandy made a big deal about some Valentine's Day date she'd been putting together and putting all four together would naturally result in some major friction. But it would be so on-brand for Taeshi to throw the beta couple with zero chemistry in with meme dog and gay retard, a combination nobody asked for nor could ever produce any interesting outcomes, then hype it up.
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>>151022328
>Even the Discord seems to start disliking James.


wait, really?
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>>151022678
That preview for that chapter shows Mike and Paulo together at a table
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>>151022609
That's nothing. One time Mike smiled at me when I wasn't looking. I just know he was going to try smiling at me again later when he entered my line of sight. And if he's willing to go that far, who knows what he's capable of?
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>>151022672
Mind, I only came to my conclusion after Taeshi's third attempt to explain it, including a BCI-turned temporary chapter.
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>>151022682
There's slightly more variety in opinion among the unwashed masses that make up the non-paying readers of this comic.
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>>151022183
>>151022436
Suitcase is a cunt, and I regret ever feeling sorry for him or believing people were being too hard on him. Dude must be your typical spoiled bastard that acts all cocky and full of himself despite having absolutely no reason to do so.
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>>151022688
Would you really put it past Taeshi when she also unabashedly showed Mike and James having a good time, knowing full well where it was going?
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>>151022647
Different person, but he never led on the fatass, end of discussion. The fat fuck is going to get cheated on while with Paulo then cry to Lucy. Abbey dodge a bullet
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>>151022571
I said it would be better, not good. Lucy's set such a low bar for that Sandy still wins out.
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>>151022713
I mean that still actually happened, I expect nothing to go well but if Mike and Paulo are together at the table you can make basic assumptions.
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>>151022607
>Mike never said anything to the contrary, you're asking James to read Mike's mind for the true story and discount everything he just heard, and everything Mike's said about it as well, and saying that he should've because he knows them better is ridiculous because he's been friends with/crushing on David for just as long now as he was Mike.
I said he should cause he actually has talked to Mike for more than 3 seconds vs a guy with a clear axe to grind. Mike did tryy and say Lucy treated him Like shit which would invalidate Agustus bullshit about Mike being an abusive husband but the minute he startedd said Bitch kicked him. THe thing that came out his mouth was:
>She treated him like shit and she lead me on
THose should be a bit enough to hear Miek perspctive but sintead he then sees Mike get interrupted by a kick.
>By the way, we had like no effort by anyone here to separate people after a punch or kick is thrown. Wtf
He ahs zero reaosn to trust Lucy bullshit because she attack him Prior to saying shit to shift blame. If lucy had attempted to say that shit before kicking Mike I woudl be inclicne to belive her but the mintue she kicked him or augustus started laughing you should believe shit they have said. In high school people spread rumors and many times. People cannot counteract them even if they are lies.

>,and saying that he should've because he knows them better is ridiculous because he's been friends with/crushing on David for just as long now as he was Mike.
He actually had been interacting with Mike for a longer actually. Espailly since this is like the fiirst time Mike has ever acted like this.
Oh and a fucking actual friend would have talked to him in private about some of this bullshit since people do like to spread bullshit but James already fucking made up his mind in case you forgot.
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>>151022708
Honestly I think he's worse than Taeshi and that's saying something.
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>>151022571
>I'd much rather not being with anyone that to be cucked [sic]
Yeah, but that's you, a (presumably) sane and rational individual.

Mike on the other hand seems to have zero interests or ambitions beyond supporting someone else as their nonsexual life partner. He's terrified of taking action or receiving rejection, but the only thing he gets out of a relationship is a sense of euphoria when paid attention. If we're to take BCI's as being in-character (an admittedly tenuous proposition considering that not even the canon comic is in-character), then the best future we've seen Mike get is being a stay-at-home househusband/cuck - every other path has him either miserable or dead.
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>>151022708
If suitcase was a reasonable human he would have cut and run from taishi long ago. Those two very much deserve each other
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>stalk some weird loner kid
>follow him to school and push him to join you in extracurriculars
>take him a not-a-date to the mall and constantly lovebomb him to the point he's actually emotionally dependent on you
>take him on an actual date and make a pass and kiss him knowing full well he has a girlfriend, hoping he'll leave her for you
>get turned down but make a point that its all okay and you still care for him and will be there for him anyway
>mike tries to open up about all this shit in the first place, tenderly shush him and tell him not to worry about it
>see a guy run really fast and immediately fall for him
>start avoiding the guy you lovebombed until some weirdo and his girlfriend show up and talk shit, watch them attack him verbally and physically
>shit on him and leave him alone crying and begging for you to stay
I wonder if taeshi realizes she's created the actual worst person in the comic by far, or if it was completely accidental on her part
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>>151022647
>But seriously, Mike never did say "no" until that chapter
Nope, why are you lying?
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>>151022726
Yeah, I can make the basic assumption that they'll be at a table together at some point during the chapter.
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>When being cucked is the better option
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>>151022696
He let that happen and didn't declare he was not interested? He was leading you on anon, sorry
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>>151022742
Ignore the contrarian, they're freaking stupid anyway.
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>>151022779
Woah it's almost like that anon who selectively picks and chooses who to argue with is disingenuous or something.
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>>151022778
She does, but blocks or removes anyone pointing it out.
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>>151022787
Even if he declared he's not interested, his actions would surely show otherwise if he dared to remain vaguely in your proximity afterwards
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>>151022436
>someone shared some exclusive chapters on 4chan, didn't know i can track that, and worked themselves into a pretzel saying I WAS BANNED FOR NO REASON
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Here's all the loras to the guy who asked last thread, sorry I didn't get to it before but I was trying to fix this Jess one
It still seems kinda idk, wonky, but if you mix it heavily it turns out alright and I'll just try to improve it's prompting as I go
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10pBc4K297vHVCAUxTL4ekxjcGoEioVyB/view?usp=sharing
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>>151022778
I see it as the real James undergoing a psychic lobotomy via Davidspace. Best Boy died inside and this homosexual homunculus is all that remains.
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>>151022779
>what about when they were 12 and Mike was upset though?
That doesn't discount everything that happened after.
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>>151022666
The problem with that is that Mike's kind of a shitty friend, too. He only has two modes: crying/blushing with hugs, and spitefully overreacting.
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>>151022867
Never means never, anon. You coward. Can't even own up to being wrong.
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>>151022436
i keep thinking to myself well maybe these are old like that post from 13 fucking years ago (lol) and theyve grown as people since then and maybe they dont both talk like complete absolute annoying fucking faggots
then i get hit with the VGLewds and yiff party bomb and realize, fuck, no, these actually have to be pretty recent. what a shame. I tried.
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>>151022832
>if he dared to remain vaguely in your proximity afterwards
Have you not seen the way Mike moves?
>The little sway of his hips as he walks
>His height is perfect for pushing down
>That very, very gay scarf
He is leading people on. He has been asking for it since middle school.
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>>151022878
Regular Mike isn't that huggy, he's just friendly. Everyone blushes and cries all the time in BCB it means nothing.
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>>151022878
He'd probably do better if any of his friends were, you know, friends instead of spirits of torment. He'd have an example of what it's supposed to look like.
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>>151022757
I understand and admire people who are kind and sympathetic, but Mike overdoes it, and what is worse is, he obviously has his limits, so he eventually just explodes in a fit of rage, which doesn't help his case at all.

What Mikes needs is to grow up and mature his ideas, and to get his blood boiling. Stay clear from romance for a while, focus on himself, discharge his inner frustrations on physical activities, and grow used to the idea that it's ok to want things.
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>>151022172
An old "friend" of Taeshi's from the forum days. And a reminder that no one is truly safe from her BPD.
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>>151022779
I appreciate you actually posting an example rather than just going "nuh uh!", but here's something from the very next chapter.
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>>151022838
Thanks
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>>151022898
Has this cat been friendly to you? You might be entitled to compensation
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>>151022955
That doesn't negate that Mike told Daisy no, emphatically. Try again with a non-lame excuse.
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>>151022939
>Update
Cept we also see in the comic that people do not respect when he says no. Or don't respect in general. The entire friend hangout/date with James is proof of that. What reason did the trio have for doing what they did besides attempting to hurt Mike?
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>>151022955
>mike disguising his embarrassment at being smitten for Lucy by giving Daisy a platonic compliment is totally flirting
Delusional
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>>151021629
I noticed you didn't mention how Grey Cat regrets his relationship with Model Cat and longs for White Cat.
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>>151022963
>You might be entitled to compensation
Carson still might get the Korat cock.
>>151022984
Mike owed alot of people relationships, anon.
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>>151022984
We're gonna 404 too fast for me to post all the examples, but believe me, there's plenty.
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>>151022642
If he was insistent he would've just not turned around at all to listen to Mike, so even at the end he's at least willing to listen.
>>151022742
How would Mike saying Lucy also treated him badly invalidate anything Augustus said, especially when Mike himself didn't portray it that way in any situation prior?
Maybe James was giving Mike the benefit of doubt when he asked, but again Mike said nothing, I don't know what exactly you expected him to do, just stick up for Mike despite knowing absolutely nothing about the situation except all the bad stuff Mike and Augustus said?
You're expecting him to believe nothing of what he hears or sees, and just have religious faith in Mike's good nature.
>>151022955
I love you anon, keep on keeping on.
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>>151023005
>longs for White Cat
For no explicable reason.
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>>151023010
This is pretty weak.
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>>151022955
>>151023010
idk this guy's got actual examples
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>>151023010
>look i will keep disingenuously keep posting examples of Mike being nice until you forget that never means never and i'm too afraid to argue in good faith
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>>151023041
So did "Mike actually did say no" anon but hey that's different and we should ignore it because you say so.
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>>151022682
the tide is starting to turn
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>>151023058
Were the pets always around only to try and sell any positive interaction mike had with anyone as "flirting"?
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>>151023082
The pets were around as way for Taeshi and Suitcase to play pretend as parents and for angst. That's why they're written out.
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>>151023082
Gotta keep Mike on track for his designated one true love, per anime rules.
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>>151023016
His willingness to listen was very clearly disingenuous, as evidenced by him already insulting Mike before bothering to ask and generally looking at him with disgust the entire time. "Prove to me you don't suck right now." isn't exactly a friend hearing a friend out. Also I was saying at the time he insisted on Mike being a good person, and you're right he didn't stick to that. There is not much Mike could have realistically said to turn things around even if he was totally calm and with Augustus and Lucy still in the picture ready to interrupt anytime. I don't think James had to unilaterally side with Mike here, just not immediately turn on him because he didn't give a satisfactory explanation for himself in the heat of this few-minutes long argument. If he even just took some time to cool his head and think about it I'd find it more reasonable.
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>>151023010
Anon this is "you write letters to Sandy" weak, c'mon
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>>151023112
>The pets were around as way for Taeshi and Suitcase to play pretend as parents
So what you're saying is there's a strong chance that Taeshi will bring Yashi back.
>grr where is Flea i wanna kick his face in
>wtf who is this goth loser living in our house this is weird i don't like it
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So what’s the response if this whole sequence was just one giant nightmare?
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>>151023080
That anon earlier was trying to say Flakops acts crazy in the discord but she's the funniest part of every screencap
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>>151023016
>How would Mike saying Lucy also treated him badly invalidate anything Augustus said, especially when Mike himself didn't portray it that way in any situation prior?
Cause the conversation literally started with Emoboy accusing Mike of being an abusive husband. Specifically, one who never touched Lucy but drove her to suicide. When the situation was almost the opposite.
>Maybe James was giving Mike the benefit of doubt when he asked
Clearly not epially since Augustus switch gears mdi talk to then accuse Mike of leading James on and was baiting Mike when he didn't bend. Both of those things occurring in the comic. With agustus not being subtle here.

He also has no reason to trust anything August said, AGAIN. He mentioned specifically that the relationship stuff was with the girl. I understand
>You're expecting him to believe nothing of what he hears or sees, and just have religious faith in Mike's good nature.
I am asking for you to actually talk your own friend, far from the stranger who started saying bulllshit to tryy and get the record straight. SInce it was clear that Agustus was attempting to get under Mike's skin so I would separate them SO I can get something from Mike. Not believe someone who jsut walked up and clearly stated shit. Friends actually do that shit. Yes, experience. High school always has occasional bullshit.
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>>151023156
In a very milquetoast, low-expectations kind of way, sure.
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>>151023058
How many times do we have to tell you that every character in BCB blushes all the time, for basically every emotion. If blushes mean you're signalling romantic interest then every character wants to fuck every other character without exception
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>>151023150
A realization that hope = cope when it comes to BCB.
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>>151023202
The way taishi writes them sometimes almost makest that seem true.
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>>151023210
>>151023150
Oh, you said "if." There is no "if," anon. This is the new reality. I hope you're ready for it to get even worse, somehow.
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>>151023150
Depends on whose nightmare this is.
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>>151023016
>Taeshi: I’m sure it also offends James to know that he’s pretty much been treated as a Lucy 2.0 by Mike as well….
It's not a "she said, he didn't say" James doesn't give a fuck about the parasite thing, he's mad because some random stranger marched up and said Mike wanted to use him as his side ho and he just instantly bought that.
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>>151023119
He said Mike was awful only after the first time Mike refused to answer and only after Mike hurt Augustus though, "Is that the truth?" isn't "Prove to me you don't suck" it's the most basic way of asking for his friend to give his version of events.
You can say there wasn't anything Mike could've said to turn James' opinion around, but realistically anything could've happened because Mike never tried, James turning away wasn't immediate or unilateral it was gradual over a really dense screamfest where it was really only one side willing to speak up.
My proof for James not being AS flaky as you claim is he actually did get angry over Augustus bothering Mike at first.
>>151023131
NTA but as much as this thread likes to downplay it, those letters meant a lot to Mike and were actually important.
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>>151023202
>every character wants to fuck every other character without exception
Isn't this literally canon?
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>>151023150
A nightmare is the only way to save writing this shitty
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>>151023297
Maulobros... there's still hope?
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>>151023279
It's clearly ours.



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