>implying she'd stand a chance against him
>>151023175That’s a fan comic, right?
>>151023379No
>>151023703So what's this Popeye comic about?
Are we ready to admit that this entire comic has been beyond retarded since the very beginning?
>>151025267Might as well
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>>151027471>>151027474Not sure how to feel about this issue but thanks for posting anon!Kinda mixed bag, not bad but weird but not good as such. Filler episode feel?
>>151027142Nah. It was a genuinely fun comic to begin with, but in a way its popularity doomed it because it's dragged on a lot longer than it ever should have done and has been obvious for a long time Skottie has no idea where to take the story. The fact he kept writing but not drawing it is the reverse of what should have happened. His art is good, his writing is not.
>>151027477Everything after her last key bait-and-switch feels like cheap filler
Well, that certainly was a comic.
>>151027864There are plenty of issues after nuGert took over the series that do continue previous plot threads (>>151027413 mentions that the previous issue is a sequel to original series #12), the problem is that aside from nuGert's mere existence as the new main character making those plot threads feel pointless, most of the time the series just goes around in circles even during those issues (Like Revival #9 being filler despite the main arc being about nuGert reuniting with Duncan and Cloudia, or how Happy End Game part 2 wastes half of the issue on a filler Knight story that goes nowhere because he does not appear again during the arc).>>151027560Early revival was good because even for all the flaws in its writing it still had from the original run it at least had a new story with a lot of potential like a billionaire CEO taking over Fairyland, and it did at least try to have something that wasn't just the same status quo. I think (in retrospective) that the revival started its downfall the moment Skottie stopped doing the main covers.>>151027477Revival #12 is the most filler issue I have ever seen, that issue feels more like an extended Untold Tales story.
>>151028818I meant specifically after Happy is defeated by Gert owning up to being a fuckup, and the "you've earned your key, now find it" thing. I was fine with post revival, even after adult!Gert bit it
>>151027995It was written, then illustrated and then published
>>151023703>>151027460For real I don't know what to feel about this, I kinda don't like it.Is on the same level of lame as having mickey mouse as a sex predator on savage dragon, or that terror iteration of Winnie pooh.
>>151029057Whoops, sorry about that.Maybe Skottie wanted a more back to basics approach for this volume? I can see him doing a big story arc for next volume since IHF is almost 50 issues long.A bit unrelated but its kind of weird how this issue has a guest artist just like that when other issues in the main series that had guest artists had in-universe explanations for the sudden change in art style (#12 was mostly set inside a magical Arcade, #18 was Larry's Dream)
>>151023175>>151023703The fuck is doing popeye and olive oil here? Wasn't this comic based on fairy tale characters?
>>151030880Reminder Raz0rfist was right about the public domainhttps://youtu.be/jV1DxpXllC8
>>151030880I don't think anything really matches those two (and I kinda like Savage Dragon).For one thing there is no disrespect for Popeye. It's pretty standard Thimble Theatre stuff. Popeye gets in a fight he should lose and doesn't (dude took like 13 bullets in his first adventure and just kept on going). Olive gets jealous and over reacts. The weird contraption was a little over the top, but even that is not really a big deal. To be clear, I have never read another issue of this comic, but I've read a lot of old Popeye comics.
>>151031062>18 minutes Fuck that.
>>151027432Okay, that's a little bit funny.
>>151030934They're public domain now.
>>151031142That doesn't answer my question at all.
>>151031105completely in line with classic Popeye too.
>>151030934>>151031148Since Popeye and Olive Oil are now in the public domain Skottie Young wanted to use them to generate sales for his comic. Same reason he used Steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse despite him not being a fairy tale character.>>151031069I'll give credit to Skottie for at least making Steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse a heroic character despite still falling into the "Mickey Mouse is a parody of corporate Disney" trap.
>>151031330So, the premise of using only fairy tales characters got blurry? That kinda sucks.
>>151031330>at least making Steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse a heroic character despite still falling into the "Mickey Mouse is a parody of corporate Disney" trap.I feel really sad of what Disney became, it used to be an animation. House representing hope and good or positive things in live, at least they tried to make mickey mouse an actual character again.
>>151031699IHF kinda abandoned the Fairytale angle since at least issue #8 when Gert was in a virtual arcade.
>>151031148>>151031330>>151030934 Technically Alice in Wonderland, Wizard of Oz, Peter Pan, Pinocchio, Dracula, Frankenstein and the Little Mermaid aren't really fairy tales either they're just published books who's copyright elapsed for a long time but we culturally accept them as sort of fairytale this is the beginning of Popeye and Mickey Mouse's journey into fairy tailhood
>>151031062Hating on the public domain it's such a stupid fucking thing. imagine no one being able to fucking use vampires as we know them or Bram stokers great great grandchildren who are middle-aged can sue you. you take from culture to make your stories you have to accept that your stories will become part of the culture and people can take from them. copyright was made to keep companies from just copying the hardwork from little guys and selling them completely cutting off the creators. it was not made to keep culture hostage so companies or Estates could hoard ideas and stories that belong to the people
>>151033556Nta, I'm fine with public domain, but the shifty thing about public domain is how new iterations are always ultra shitty, compared to the original source, or they always try to make something incredibly stupid with them.Someone here posted about mickey on savage dragon, that's a really good example along with horror movie Winnie pooh.
>>151033556>>151034040I hate how nowadays when a big IP and/or it's characters enter the public domain we either get cheap horror slop or gimmick stories that are just edgy parodies that have the characters doing stuff they wouldn't do under their parent company.
>>151034040Twisted tales of Felix did something really amazing, it was the don Oriolo family that made Felix the lamest character ever created.
>>151034547QRD?
>>151027142Not you again...
>>151027474Well that sucked. One thing I don't get about these sort of "edgy" Public Domain stories is how PD itself is completely superfluous here. Like, you could've made this exact story BEFORE Popeye hit public domain because this is clearly parody. Popeye and Olive look, act, and feel different enough that at worst, Scotty would just need to scrub out the names. But there's nothing here that fucking Family Guy could've gotten away with as well.
>>151037897>One thing I don't get about these sort of "edgy" Public Domain stories is how PD itself is completely superfluous hereI think its because a. Most writers only do these stories with the intent of using the novelty that they can now use a popular established character in their product, so when they do the plot it just becomes a plot with an expy but the expy is the real deal character. b. IIRC, while a character like Popeye is now in the public domain, he is still trademarked, so to avoid problems, any writer that wants to use him will make him a glorified parody to avoid getting in trouble with the trademark (That and they can't use the parts of his lore/mythos that are not in the public domain). IIRC that is the reason you can use Steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse but using the Mickey Mouse name is a grey zone despite his name being public domain (I might be wrong on this, so take it with a grain of salt, and it depends from character and/or property to character and/or property).
>>151035415Felix used to be a character with very crazy and surreal tones, I can't remember who was the original owner, but a guy named Don Oriolo, was the dude who made the 50's version of Felix (the one with the magic bag, and probably the most famous Felix) making him really family friendly, but kinda boring as a whole, sadly the oriolo family got the rights in general and are really tight and serious on how Felix needed to be portrayed, rejecting everything that is not like 50's Felix. In the 90's a show named twisted tales of felix, brought Felix into his crazy and surreal antics and shenanigans again, while fans of the characters think it the best iteration of felix the cat. But the oriolo family were not happy with the show, Since then the Oriolo family has an iron fist about felix always being the boring family friendly 50's version when the original surreal character was 20 times better.I think the original 20's Felix is public domain nowadays.
>>151038292Didn't DreamWorks bought the rights of felix the cat some years ago? Whatever happened to that?
>>151027442>sharktits Yes
I miss adult Gert, my beloved.
>>151038902I do too, maybe she will appear in the next volume...
>>151038929Claudia is alive? wasn't she killed?
>>151038971That's fanart but yes, she is still alive.SpoilersIn the final arc of the original run Cloudia is revived with dark magic and threatens Fairyland, so the council revives Gert and gives her superpowers to defeat Cloudia, Gert defeats Cloudia and forces the council to keep their deal and return her home, Cloudia is then sent to Jail. During the revival shortly after killing Adult Gert nuGert discovers that Duncan is a Fairyland guest but since Cloudia was technically queen when he arrived she is the one that has to give him his map to start his quest, so nuGert takes her out of jail, then nuGert, Cloudia and Duncan do the quest, Duncan decides to stay in Fairyland but Cloudia betrays nuGert and leaves Fairyland to go the real world, then she has shenanigans in the real world involving dying & being resurrected and farting Taylor Swift, last time she has appeared was during revival #11 (#31) cursing (nu)Gert after being sucked into Taylor Swift's private Jet's engine.
>>151039047That sounds dumb
>>151031196What made Popeyes action work is that it's a pretty bloodless affair. It gives the impression of demigods duking it out and struggling to even make a dent in either direction. IHF's aftion makes zero sense, characters can get dismembered and bloody only to pretend like nothing even happened the next panel.
>>151023379I wish
>>151042298Too bad
>>151031784Why is your punctuation all wrong?
>>151027864What happened to Happy and the other Gerts?
>>151033301I guess the thing is that Mickey and Popeye have a lot of contemporary adaptations from their parent companies and are heavily associated with them.Most of those other stories you mention were in the public domain, or close to it by the time they were adapted to other mediums.
>>151033301>Peter Pan, PinocchioHow are those not fairy tales? They involve literal fairies.>Little MermaidIt has a witch. And merfolk may as well be the elves of the sea.
>>151027417>Segar mail boxAlmost miss that
>>151047776From what I can tell, there’s no universally agreed-upon standard for what qualifies as a fairy tale, it’s more of an “I know it when I see it” kind of thing.
>>151044172Because I have no respect for this language.
>>151031196Popeye is just built different.
>>151048471>Because I have no respect for this language.I get it, it's to complex for most. I'd hate something that was hard to learn to if I were a halfwit.
>>151048410Yeah. And those are definitely fairy tales. It's dumb to say they aren't just because they were first told in printed format.>what qualifies as a fairy talePopular short stories where magical things like fairies exist or could exist (e.g. Puss In Boots has an ogre). Simple as.
>>151049190>Popular short stories where magical things like fairies exist or could existI agree that Peter Pan, Pinocchio, and Little Mermaid should be fairy tales. But using that definition, would “Hey Diddle Diddle” or “Humpty Dumpty” count as fairy tales too? Unreal things like talking eggs or cats playing fiddles happen in them, and they do tell short stories.
>>151049732>Humpty DumptyYes.>The Cat and the FiddleThat is more song than tale. The point of it is to make specific sounds, not tell a story. This image tells the "story" as much as the lyrics do (because there is basically none). And while it wasn't the intention, what you see here is surrealism; which defies reality for the sake of it and does not necessarily involve fantastical elements (e.g. pictures of people walking/driving around with cloths over their heads). The fantasy elements in a fairy tale are there to make the story more interesting, not just for the sake of making it unreal.
>>151049732NTA but I've always thought Humpty Dumpty was a fairy tale. That's probably because that one is fairly known outside of English-speaking countries
>>151049190By that logic, the original Shrek book was a fairy tale.
>>151051318Yes, it's been described as such.
>>151027142it seems like a semi funny joke that just got out of hand and now people cant stop enjoying it for some reason. like when you ironically use a word so much you end up saying is subconsciously when youre trying to be serious
>>151048676Nta but >English >hardKek, Americans sure are funny sometimes.
>>151049190>Popular short stories where magical things like fairies exist or could exist (e.g. Puss In Boots has an ogre). Simple as.By that definnition neither Peter Pan or Pinocchio are fairy tales. Neither is a short story. Pinnochio runs around 260 pages, and Peter Pan 240.
>>151053833I don't think length really affects why some of these old stories are considered Fairy Tales
>>151051318Shrek 1 is unironically a great example of a fairytale.
>>151027432>his brain is in a can
>>151048410>>151049190Academic study of fairy tales seem to operate more under a caveat of "Widely spread folktales about magic with no one true origin" with an elaborate categorization system based on recurring archetypical plotlines and themes like a less cringe TVTropes. The Grimms and Perrault were writing down old stories spread through oral tradition versus making them up whole cloth.Of course most people just define fairy tales these days as Disney adjacent fantasy bullshit, while parsing out the Tolkien adjacent stuff as some kinda separate version of Fantasy.
I like this issue's art style.
>>151057509It does look nice
>>151023175What else is she trying to do now?
>>151060302Ge(r)t drunk
>>151057159I guess you could say he did 20 years in the can
