Pete Williams struggled to finish the movie due to his mother's Alzheimer’s disease. But she recently got full time care and Pete now can focus on film.https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1512555460/undergrads-the-movie/posts/4454600
>>151026015Does anyone even want this? Undergrads wasn't that popular to begin with, is extremely dated as well, and the show being dated itself is going to be hard to attract new fans. Plus I never seen any discussion about it online. The only other media I seen refrence to undergrads was that French comic, that had the main four flirt with a bunch of underage girls
>>151027036At this point, it's just his personal pet project that he wants to do, to get it out of the system. You know, like when you really loved your creation, but couldn't do much with it, and just wants some closure, or maybe to go back to the fun times
>>151027036I'm personally curious about it's progress to see if today it is viable for bunch of guys to make their own direct-to-DVD tier movie. Especially if there is no demand, because truly new media from new indies would usually appear without anyone askingI'm also interested to see how AI moralfags will let this slide https://youtu.be/mPJcU4yprO4
>>151027036> Does anyone even want this?No. It was a nothing show even when it was airing. While some people may have found it mildly entertaining, it’s definitely not the sort of thing worth revisiting 25 years later. This was Pete’s first major accomplishment. He sold the show while a freshman in college, dropped out to make it, and it got cancelled after one season. It was a major success followed by a failure super early in his development as an adult and a part of him has remained arrested as a result. This is his white whale. Hopefully after this movie releases (and inevitably flops), he’ll finally be able to close this chapter and fully move on with his life.
>>151027147> I'm also interested to see how AI moralfags will let this slideWhy do you assume they would?
the movie's still being made?that's pretty cool, guy
>>151026015I've never even seen this show, I remember it being mentioned in the same breath as shows I did watch, like clone high and the Clerks animated show, but it always seemed like the niche cartoon of that already niche set of cartoons.
>>151027156I should have phrased it> how much will they rag on itBut it is only for in-betweens of their own personally created and drawn characters. I feel like that could neuter a lot of "theft" arguments.
>>151027172It's not theft, it will look bad but it's just interpolation or like, tweening, it's fine.
>>151027176I can believe thathere is an earlier update video from them, where they combine CG and AI to make this - https://youtu.be/kw1GP_wGsAkand even if they tried, their presented examples still look pretty plastic to me.
>>151027147I was always curious if anyone would try to implement AI with in-between work and behold, the guy behind a shitty MTV show would be the one to try to implement it.
My first semester ended just like that show did. He must finish this movie.
>>151027282I'm rooting for him but he hasn't even finished the animatic yet, most of his animation tests are just like, ideas for a workflow he hasn't even implemented yet, the movie is still very much at the starting line of deep production and he ran out of kickstarter money years ago.
>>151027172>>151027176>>151027228>>151027196It still needed to use stolen data to train the AI. It's still theft. It still uses a ton of electricityIt still wastes a ton of waterIt looks uncanny and shittyThere are a lot of creative decisions that go into tweening. It's not JUST going from one pose to another, but precisely how things move in space and where time pushes and pulls is part of it. The simplification of some movements and exaggeration of others is part of it. Nobody will look at his AI-tweened examples and confuse that for something that a human did. It feels too cold unexpressive. Characters just turn their heads, but there is no personality or intent. And don't get me started on the weird jittering that characters do as the AI struggles to track objects.
>>151027292At this rate, he'll be lucky if he finishes sometime before he dies. Imagine dedicating your life to the completion of a single idea you had when you were 19. And when you reveal your magnum opus to the world shortly before taking your last breath it's...Undergrads. It might as well be Sausage Party.
>>151027358He's only using the AI inbetweens on background elements, and it's being imported as linework and then adjusted frame by frame in the instances that he is using it.Your other points still stand, personally I don't like general use AI models either (there are plenty of applications of local llms in scienctific research that I think are fine, the blanket term AI is stupid and misleading.)
>>151027358>It still needed to use stolen data to train the AI. It's still theft.He is literally using his own key drawn key frames & using AI for the inbetween work. What is he possibly stealing?
>>151027482The AI doesn't just "know" how to inbetween. It was trained to do it based on countless of hours of stolen material that was fed to it an analyzed. The images that actually pop up on screen aren't stolen, but the tech he's using was created using stolen work.
>>151027036>>151027153>>151027169It felt like some shitty edutainment cartoon you'd see on PBS Kids.
>>151027654Cmon' at this point how is it different from someone learning to animate from other people's work as a reference without even replicating other's characters?If normal people can do that, I don't see a big problem a machine doing that if it's not using any recognizable styles or IPs except for the authors own drawn keyframes. Especially if the author even goes out of their way to modify the generated frames, to hone in on their vision.Sounds like a fine compromise to me.
>>151027373Sausage Party is a better idea than an Undergrads movie.
>>151027762>at this point how is it different from someone learning to animate from other people's work as a reference without even replicating other's characters?Because that person doesn't then become a mass production machine that can scale up human work by orders of magnitude. Also, replicating something manually necessarily introduces originality. Each person will look at a piece of art and notice very specific things about it which will typically have a lot to do with their experience with art and personal taste. Artists may think they're copying a work, but what they're actually getting out of it and absorbing into their personal style isn't a 1:1 reproduction of exact nuance and stylistic taste. The company putting out this software is benefiting from stolen work which is unconsciounable, and using the tech isn't much better. I don't expect many anons to agree with me on this.
>>151026015The only episode that I can even vaguely recall is the one where they play Risk and the guy who looks like a capuchin monkey cheats. Nothing else ever really stood out about the series or characters.
>>151027153>>151027754it is the last echo of the 90's College life.Before faggotry took over
>>151027036I haven't even seen all of Undergrads, but I'd like to see this movie completed only so the creator who apparently peaked too early in his career can finally have some closure with his most prized creative project. I'm also curious how closely he'll be able to capture the vibe of the original season after 20+ years with a limited budget.
>>151027036#>Does anyone even want this?No. It's a movie for no one.>French comic, that had the main four flirt with a bunch of underage girlsWhat? Never seen that. It does sound French, for real.Anyway, a Mission Hill movie would do better (meaning, less bad) than Undergrads the movie.No streaming service would want it.
>>151029475>Anyway, a Mission Hill movie would do better (meaning, less bad) than Undergrads the movie.eh...Mission Hill had and has a much bigger cult following so I suppose it would technically do better, but too much time has elapsed now to do a movie. I agree that it would do marginally better than Undergrads, but I'd still rather just let it remain an awesome show that was cut down too early than to try to bring it back and totally botch it.
>>151027863>Nothing else ever really stood out Lies.
>>151027863Actually, he was a decent enough player, but he got frustrated really easily and would go full kamikaze with his units when he lost the lead.
>>151027863One of the few episodes where Gimpy actually interacts with the other characters. Usually he was doing his own thing.I remember he was always bitching about The Phantom Menace.
>>151029501She pretty
>>151026015Loved the show but it's more than a decade too late. It'll go about as good a with the Clone high season 2 but maybe with less modern liberal politics. There is no audience for this show.Something like X-men 97 can get away with it because it was a far more iconic show and brand but an movie based on a MTV cartoon that that got cancelled after 1 season in the early 00s. I'm sorry but it's a Zoolander 2.
>>151030928There was a Zoolander 2?
>>151026015Was this cartoon Canadian or American? I could never tell..
>>151026015Kino
>>151029475thing is, I don't like the artstyle of mission hill, therefore I'm going to unzip my cock and piss on your opinion, until you start to like my piss and drink it. Drink it all
>>151032031I remember watching it on telethon thinking it was American because it had MTV in the credits, but when I moved to America from Canada, no one was familiar with it
>>151033600You were surrounded by the most uncultured of individuals, then.
>>151027036>Does anyone even want this?back then maybe just to see how the story goes but nowadays? i don't think so. College is no longer that place movies and shows used to paint it as back in the early to mid 2k and the portrayal of such is too alien for this current generation of college students
>>151033255You can't just make that guy drink your piss.I'm telling on you.
>>151027036>Does anyone even want this? Undergrads wasn't that popular to begin with, is extremely dated as well, and the show being dated itself is going to be hard to attract new fans.I found it charming, and endearing. As a time capsule of what late 90s and early y2k teenager adults were like. At least they are not sexless losers.
