Sony has announced they will not be bidding on Warner Bros and instead will invest in anime, as anime has far greater growth potential and actually a future compared to hopeless IPs like dc, Looney Tunes, and Cartoon Network and Adult Swim content https://www.gamesradar.com/entertainment/movies/sony-announces-it-wont-be-bidding-to-buy-warner-bros-because-its-focused-on-growth-markets-like-anime/
>>151027524I think it's pretty funny that the entire animation industry just collectively decided to stop making good content one day and after years of ignoring what people actually want apparently the solution is to just stop trying and invest in another country
>>151027524They should buy them and turn all DC heroes into edgy anime shows
This is so fucking insulting to WB, lmao
>>151027524Anime used to be good but these days, all they do is churn out light novel isekaishit and that's why I went back to cartoons.
>>151027571It honestly is really bizarre. Half a decade ago, if you explained the current state of things to me, I would just read it as a sooner fantasy and impossible worst case scenario.
No wonder considering how current anime films are showing Hollywood level box office with 1-2 percent of the cost.
>>151027588I'm surprised you found any cartoons waiting for you on your return.
>>151027524>gamesradar
>>151027571Tbf western cartoons want to be zany and have ugly mains. Unfortunately it's not that popular with kids unless you guys have good animation writers not turning shows into the next lgbt/political movement.
>Paramount won't go as high as Zaslav wants>Disney can't because of monopoly laws>Sony won't because they want to invest in animeThat leaves Universal and Amazon/MGM, or something out of left field like Apple buying them in order to bump Apple TV + up.
>>151027524Why do people keep saying KPop was an anime? It was a weeb flavored Spider-Verse style that was made by Americans, including a white man. That ain't what anime is.
>>151027621Like 20% of the people who have seen it even know what the K stands for.
>>151027524Looks like the only thing that can save Warner Bros now is if some Saudi Prince is a Looney tunes fan.
>>151027571>apparently the solution is to just stop trying and invest in another countryI can't believe Sony of all companies would make anime.
>>151027636Didn't they literally move their HQ to the US?
>>151027621The meaning of anime has changed and is a vague style. Retarded producers will continue to be retarded.
>Buys Warner Comm.>Guts the company of anything marketable>Wonders why nobody wants to buy itZaslav is a dope and I hope he gets stuck with a valueless "asset".
>>151027588>That time I got reincarnated as a shit poster.
>>151027629>Saudis being into the series whose main characters are a pig, and the gay crosssdressing rabbit and duckYep they are doomed
>>151027524honestly Sony buying WB would have been the funniest shit everwe could have seen a legit adaptation of pic related
>>151027524Thank god. I was already getting sick of seeing bunch of derivative mediocre cartoons for decades.Hopefully this can only signal the eventual boarder shift away from children oriented cartoons produced in America especially that they've overblown their costs on marketing, celebrity inserts and overpaid people.
i hope it's apple. and i can't stand apple.
>>151027799Then why do you want Apple?
>>151027524The real reason is because Sony is only kept afloat because of Playstation. They're sure lucky Microsoft is fine with going Multiplat with their games because can you imagine how quick Sony would flounder as a company if Microsoft decided to make all of their newly bought IPs Xbox exclusive?
>Japanese studio wants to invest in Japanese industryImagine my shock
>>151027857It actually is, if you know Sony's recent track record.
>>151027861Not really.
>>151027861You mean it buying american companies for vidya, ruining them, then selling them off again?
>>151027638no?
>>151027908And not doing much else.
Anime is a growth market? But One Piece is nearing its end; that alone will sink Japan's GDP by like 5%.
>>151027524>anime has far greater growth potential and actually a future compared to hopeless IPsNot with Sony involved.
>>151027916Bro it took like no googling, their global headquarters is in California.
>>151027932>Sony Group Corporation, commonly referred to as simply Sony, is a Japanese multinational conglomerate headquartered at Sony City in Minato, Tokyo, Japan
>>151027947>I found their Japanese HQ so the Global one doesn't exist!Why are you doing this to yourself?https://sonyinteractive.com/en/office/global-headquarters/
>>151027964You do know that is a subsidy right?
>>151027571How do you undo 20 years of ideological sabotage? Everyone in this industry is a barely functional nutcase, who do you replace them with? All these people they chased away from the field? It's over.
>>151027977The word is subsidiary, and no, you are confused.
>>151027592But imagine how much MORE they could have made if they were voiced by a-list celebrities and had more black and queer people in them and used state-of-the-art rendered graphics to make them ultra realistic and had a hit single from the latest trending pop/hip hop musician and had progressive, inclusive stories about queer brown trans womyn so that everybody could enjoy them?
>>151027985It autocorrected.>Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC (SIE) is an American video game and digital entertainment company of Japanese conglomerate Sony Group Corporation>Parent: Sony Corporation of America>Sony Corporation of America Parent: Sony Group Corporation
It doesn't change anything. Anime and cartoons are all lefty woke liberal media and if you're still watching that crap well into your 20s or 30s then there's no hope or future for you.
>>151028047It'll come true if you repeat it often enough, right?
>>151027997lmao, he is about to ghost
>>151027585The insult is deserved, anon. What does WB have thats worth anything? It didn't save them, and when Discovery allowed it to be blinded by the greed of "muh established IP" taking on WB rapidly killed them too. NOTHING in WB's catelog is worth taking on the mountain of debt born from their terrible decisions. Looney Toons and DC are both fucking *ancient*, and even Superman doesn't put butts in seats anymore. Their cartoon network/adult swim stuff is niche stuff that they never promoted well and isn't all that popular. WB has old ass IP built on old ass business models that are not compatible with what modern audiences want anymore, and more important modern audiences want to finally get to watch something that isn't their grandfather's hand-me-down. You know why anime is doing well? Because even when they follow the same genre tropes from show to show, each show is still a different fucking story with different fucking characters. I'm not watching Batman remember his parents dying in Crime Alley in a movie theater for the 24th fucking time in my life, presented to me as if this is new information because this script was written for a hypothetical person who is both old enough to watch a PG-13 rated movie and yet also doesn't know who Batman is.
>>151028047As opposed to real mature adults in their 20s and 30s, who are still watching Teen Titans and Ed, Edd, and Eddy.
>>151027588Light novels and isekai adaptations are at an all time low these days actually
>>151027615>>Disney can't because of monopoly lawsLol Lmao
>>151027588Anon, we get 30-40 new shows 4 times a year. Whatever it is you are looking for, you can find it in the lineup.Unless it's mecha anime. Pour one out for a lost brother.
>>151027629Arabs are bigger anime fans than westoids
>>151027588I see. How's gay sex pest generational trauma adventures working for you? Varied enough?
>>151027997The Japs basically view them as race traitors for doing this btw
>>151028116Its more like they can't afford to risk it. Anti-trust laws have been poorly enforced for a long time, but Disney+WB would be too big to ignore. There is a real chance that if they get taken to court on it they could lose not just the deal itself, but be forced to give up other holdings as well. Its just not worth the risk to them.
>>151027571 1. Cultural capture.2. Western animators have unions, it's likely just sabotage by the studios to justify moving operations. This is what they did to 2D animation to justify swapping to 3D animators. Just need plausible deniability."Who were WE to know the ugly fuckin' shows we picked would do bad? The kids just want anime, so guess we're outsourcing to Asia now! Sowwy."
>>151027592Fucking mugen train and infinity castle breaking 500mil no sweat is fucking crazy, no complaints tho I love those films yeah they're shallow but at least they're fun to watch, actual entertainment instead of trying to preach some fucking message
>>151027524Warners bros is on sale again? Fuck. I hope whoever buys them, gives WeatWorld a season 5. Or at least not put more shit to tax write offs. Fucking bitch last ceo. For fucks sakes
>>151028138Japan has genres named yaoi that are just uncensored faggot porn so would not be talking, anime is objectively the most woke animation form on the planet and is made by browns
>>151028263Yes, that's what the incredibly desperate viral marketing for Superman was about.
>>151027621Sony created kpop demon hunters, anon. The article is using it as Sony's avatarfag.
>>151028278I see. Must suck that's all you get over there while yaoi is a microscopic niche with zero reach... or does it? Gotta be a massive homo gay queer faggot to care about cartoons, after all.
>>151028147>Implying the current administration would do ANYTHING about a monopoly
>>151027615>>Disney can't because of monopoly lawsI am pretty sure they cannot.
>>151028332Remember that MAGA hates Disney. They might not care about monopolies on principal, but them choosing whether or not to selectively enforce it to damage "woke Disney" is another matter entirely.
>>151028263>I hope whoever buys them, gives WeatWorld a season 5.Why would you want that? Westworld has been shit since season 2.If anything it deserved a mercy killing.
>>151027571If the best the industry can produce is yet another spin-off of Adventure Dyke Time then it deserves to die
>>151028440Just because you couldn’t understand it doesn’t mean it was bad.
>>151027615I'd take it over for 20 bucks but I doubt things would ever get bad enough for it to get THAT cheap
>>151028459Posts like this remind me that most people into cartoons are only into them because they have horrid taste.
So, whats the most valuable thing that WB owns anymore? What can they actually leverage for profit?If its DC, they're fucked. DC has been losing money hand over fist for years. The Synderverse poisoned the well on any hopes of getting a Cinematic universe off the ground, and while Gunn Superman seems to be well liked it didn't earn enough money to signal future success. Outside of movies, DC's comic are a drain and even their video game ventures haven't been working out for them lately. So what else is there that WB owns that is going to make me go "wow, I gotta have that!" HBO? Post-GoT HBO hasn't been anything special.
>>151028523Mortal Kombat probably.
>>151028523Harry Potter rights
>>151028411In their defense, it's pretty hard not to hate disney. It banks on enforcing millenial's worst traits with their slop products, and if you nuked one of their parks, 50% of the fatty population would dissapear.
>>151028523The GoT spinoffs will still be watched by a fuck ton of people despite GRRM straight up disowning the shows lmao
>>151028593Ignoring whatever GRRM does or says is the modus operandi of the normoid fans, anon.You think they would be able to claim their series is feminist and woke if they actually read the pedo chapters of the source material?
>>151027524>Sony has announced they will not be bidding on Warner Bros and instead will invest in anime, as anime has far greater growth potential and actually a future compared to hopeless IPs like dc, Looney Tunes, and Cartoon Network and Adult Swim contentAnd despite this, they will STILL fuck it up.
>>151028523Harry Potter by far, the mech rights for the movie/show/games are unreal.DC is a whole mess of untapped potential (thought I think cape-shit is in the rear-view mirror of the mainstream now).Game of Thrones/Westeros COULD be big, but WB have bungled it badly.They have a lot of other bits they're underusing however, Loony Tunes, various iconic movies, HBO's library of premium content etc. You aint buying the executive talent or infrastructure, lets just say that - its pure IP.
>>151028641Remember when Sony thought Kpop was going to get no audience compared to GOAT so they sold all rights to Netflix for 20 million
>>151027524>buy warner>force them to make anime
>>151027571Hopefully the implosion will allow crestivety to rise again
>>151028655Have to say, none of that is exciting. Harry Potter is probably their best shot on that list, but re-making the movies again so soon is a very high cost and long term endeavor that I don't know how well it will do. The old movies are still there and are recent enough that you are in direct competition with them, you can't *just* make them again if you are going to re-sell it, you'd have to do something different with the material and down that way lies Bad Choices Alley, where the heroin addicts hang out. DC and Westeros will probably both continue to make 'just enough' money to be worth making more of it, but never enough money to be actually big tentpole franchises anytime soon so I wouldn't be in a rush to buy up WB for access to those.Loony Tunes is effectively dead. They are recognizable IP, but thats just not enough to be worth it anymore. It and the iconic movies/old premium content stuff are just streaming service filler shit, which again isn't worth buying WB for.
>>151027984The studios just go out of business and those names become poison on your resume
>>151028233Then theyd take the rooe the audience is lending them>stop pushing gayness >stop pushing feminism>"oh gee whiz the audience says we have to fire everyone on political grounds coincidentally based on who supports unions oh bummer :)But they arent.Instead theyll "buy anime" and inject it with the same toxic messaging and itll fail the same even if the eyes are drawn differently.
>>151028558This isn't a East vs West thread, but a "shit on Warner administration" one
>>151028716You forget all of them have theme park rights and that is hugeUniversal pays Warner Bros a lot for the rights to Harry Potter theme park lands each year. Six Flags currently has DC/LT in the US and Universal would want DC/LT rights, so even on top of buying Warner they would pay Six Flags billions to end their contract and retain full control. They get hundreds of millions over time for doing nothing Even excluding merch, if these IPs never make a single product ever again they are worth getting just for this
>>151027585No, it's more like they FTC already have said that they only would let Paramount to buy Warner and other companies would be subject of the merging standard procress.
>>151027571At this point American artists are just too shitty, lame, and gay.It's terminal rot, it can't be changed without purging the entire industry, which would end up with the same end result.
>>151028748The weird thing is, anime already *has* gayness and feminism. And often times those characters are still super popular. Like, Akemi Homura. Strong female character, gayer than two rainbows fucking, both she and her show are immensely popular even 15 years later. The gayness or the feminism isn't the problem. The extremely cringe way that America does it is the problem, where it feels forced and preachy and not in service to anything except a focus group checkbox.
>>151027615It's going to be Paramount or nothing. Trump wants that Ellis controls CNN and became Fox 2.0 so they kiss his ass. Nobody really cares about Warner's IP at this point.
>>151028779If thats true, how did Discovery go under in just a couple of years despite making this same deal and getting all of those same things? If the company was printing money that easily, why would WB have had to sell itself off in the first place?The parks *can't* be worth that much or this situation wouldn't be happening.
>>151027615Trump could buy them.
>>151028808Warner was debt bombed by at&t
>>151028686They were probably right to do so.No chance that would have done well with a traditional theater release. Streaming is what made that movie.
>>151027524The animation industry in my country collapsed 20 years ago, so finally seeing it happen to cultural imperalist america is cathartic to me.
>>151028792The difference is, anime has things besides gayness and feminism.Cartoons do not, it's gay, feminist autism the entire way down with a small handful of exceptions.This is what happens when you go all-in on exclusively appealing to a single target audience and tell everyone else to go drown in piss.
>>151028792There are lengthy breakdowns plastered all over the internet detailing the differences and the problems with the western style.Execs are tricking themselves with this "anime is gay too" nonsense. Good riddance. I hope they never figure it out and all of them lose their jobs.
>>151028808Warner was saddled with around 35 billion in debt when AT&T spun them off which the really cannot make back if the company itself is worth 75 billion maximum. That was the whole scheme of resplitting them: Discovery and the dying cable companies are going to be given almost all of that debt while the Warner side becomes clean
>>151028841The western animator also love to cut the music, stop uaving fun, turn the characters to the audience, and then lecture us on how we arent nice enough to trannies.Anine throws in a bishi in a dress so the heterosexual male audience can goon to them. Nit as a bludgeon to shame us. So many episodes of adventure time read like>how dare you like adventure time? Whats wrong with you? Youre must be a sociopath for liking the show before we "fixed" it!They, their publicists, and their unpaid supporters can keep going "nuh uh" until the repo man takes their pencils away.
>>151028792There are MAGA-heads out there who are genuine regressive Christian types, but most of the noise online is politically uneducated with slight libertarian leanings, and they just circumstancially align.Most of these guys don't mind any of that stuff. Arcane was loved by everyone and it was about a pink haired lesbian beating men up. It didn't FEEL like that though, because it wasn't the *point* of the show, it was about real things.Anime does that as well. A lot of Western slop is people making media to work through their trauma because Momma and Dadda didn't respect them being gay, so everything is about being gay or race or whatever else the identity is.
>>151027524Who is making these dumb choices? Demon Hunters is where to go. It is not anime. They should sell to Disney. I heard Sony sold Demon Hunters to Netflix thinking it wouldn't be as big. Modern Musicals are back.
>>151028088Use actual words, not ebonomics.
>>151028889>Sold to Disney.>Modern Musicals are back.Disney released a big blunder named Wish, a while ago
>>151027585They probably asked for too much. WB is huge.
>>151028876Genuine creatives are barred from the industry because they are annoying to women, and women control corporate america.
>>151027643No it was because the author was a retard
>>151027739They are capitalists above all
>>151027524Sony would have benefited the most from buying WB.
>>151027615I'm hoping for Universal so Bugs Bunny can ditch Six Flags for the superior park.
>>151028994Would they have?What does WB even have that anyone under the age of 40 even gives a fuck about besides Harry Potter, some small bits of capeshit, and maybe Mortal Kombat?
>>151028979Sounds like a very well researched and nuanced position anon. I'm sure you have ample sources.
>>151027524they can’t afford them
>>151028876>Arcane was loved by everyoneEhh, people liked S1 for the intrigue, but S2 was subpar, and most of the straight guys definitely weren't into it because of the bulldyke who beat up dudes, but because of the manic pixie girl who wanted to fuck her not-daddy.This is another problem, American creatives think they understand men, but they really, really don't.You're the same kind of guy who'd think guys are into Chainsaw Man for the femdom and not for the over-the-top action and simple, straight-forward "go-with-the-flow" protagonist (despite his rampant simpery).American artists tend to get stuck in their "artist bubble" where they look at art on twitter (a site they all freely admit they know is infested with bots) and online websites and think that is what represents real life.It's why every American entertainment industry is dying; they all decided to pander exclusively to twitter.
>>151029002They IP they'd gain would mean Sony Pictures wouldn't need to rely on Spiderman so much. And they could also be made into exclusive games for PlayStation. Win win.
>>151029039Sony has already stated that they don't give a fuck about the IP that WB owns, and no corporation besides Nintendo cares about making games exclusive anymore, since the vast majority of console gamers these days play the same F2P shit that mobile gamers play, and that's where most of the money comes from.
>>151027571Walt Disney was a Christian and a patriot who made a HAPPY SAFE place for families to go with their children. Over the years, liberals attacked the company ...before deciding upon their tried and true method of infiltrating and taking over. These internal battles have been going on for years... with Eisner being the biggest proponent of liberal victory over the company.
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>>151029055Movies and Games are essentially married. Mine craft movie was not hugely successful but it was successful enough to keep making more. It used to be youd make a game based on the movie. Thats being reversed. The Mario movie was beloved by everyone. Even the cashier guy was talking about it today.
>>151029077>globalNetflix boyc
>>151029085Not all video game movies are made the same, people only go based on name brand, no one gives a fuck about the Mortal Kombat movies, no one cared about the Borderlands movie, and vidya movies have flopped plenty of times.The Ass Creed movie flopped, the Hitman movies did subpar, this idea that Hollywood has that vidya movies are going to save their asses is retarded.Minecraft and Mario are literally 2 of the biggest vidya properties of all time, Mortal Kombat and Horizon Zero Dawn are not anywhere near the same level of either of those.
>>151029077The Netflix boycott doomed them. Should have sold to Disney or operated on their own. Not sure why Sony hasn't created streaming yet. I remember when everyone thought they were the F u t u r e.
>>151029113I agree with that but this is a cartoon board not a white man violent video games board.
>>151029118>Not sure why Sony hasn't created streaming yet.Because ironically they're not as retarded as the other companies.They know that there's far more money in licensing your shit out to other companies to put on THEIR streaming services than running your own.
>>151029077Netflix boycott is working
>>151029118I think Sony had their own service for a while. They saw it was a money sink and killed it. They still have Crunchyroll, which they bought from WB lol.
>>151029128The fuck does that have to do with our conversation about video game movies and IP?
>>151029140Yep. Sony Crackle. They got rid of their stake in 2019. And then they went bankrupt last year.
>>151028440Hard disagree. It's extremely obvious the hosts want to escape WestWorld. Everyone who wants it to stay in WestWorld or else it's bad were retarded. At least it sets up an apocalypse showdown to go back there for season 5 where it narratively makes sense and script is complete. The actors payroll were already fully funded to start acting, but they still didn't do it
>>151029055>Sony has already stated that they don't give a fuck about the IPThat's retarded.>cares about making games exclusiveSony still does it and recently removed porting to PC as a goal.
>>151027571Shrek's fault.
>>151029118Boycott? Is this related to the sale or what the fuck did Netflix do? Fund pedophiles?
>>151029215>That's retarded.Why?What the fuck does WB have that is worth a damn besides maybe Harry Potter?Sony made more money on the Demon Slayer movie than WB made on fucking Superman, arguably the most popular superhero of all time.The cultural cache of most of what WB owns has all but run out at this point.
>>151029241GoT spin-offs. DC. Maybe turning CN stuff into live action stuff. Etc.
>>151028999Six Flags owns the rights to Looney Tunes and DC until 2053.
>>151027984The nepo hires are going to put their noses to the grind stone and make something amazing. Or they will buckle and the entire thing collapses.
>>151029258None of that shit is worth a damn for Sony.Who the fuck would want live action versions of fucking CN shit? Do you even read the dumb shit you type?How the fuck are you even more out-of-touch than soulless MBA automaton execs?
>>151027636They're doing a lot of weird shit. Check out Longlegs, it's a fucking trip.
>>151027571It worked for American manufacturing.
>>151029274The implication would be the Universal would buy out the remainder of the contract so they can fully own the rights to these charactersGiven it is 20-25 years and not the perpetual out of the Universal Marvel contract the buyout would be less but something debt-filled Six Flags would take
>>151029142Are you retarded
>>1510291602019 was a bad year to start
>>151029274Six Flags has not handled the gold mine well.
>>151029499They ended in 2019. They have it since like 2012.
>>151027524If Zaslav wasn’t a greedy retard, WB would have been sold already.The more money he asks for (which he wants to use to give himself one final big paycheck), the more studios will realize that buying WB ain’t worth it
They should change the name of the HBO app again.
>>151028792>but anime has gays and feminismExcept they are not really ideological base and just a natural preference the story makes.
>>151030444Indeed. Western animators are trying to push an ideology. The very act of doing so sabatoges the story. Most stories and most ideologies are like this. The fact that the ideology theyre pushing is also poisonous to society just makes it worse.
>>151027524>>151027597Why did the wagie "journalist" put Kpop Demon Hunters as an example? That shit is literally just Spiderverse. It's like those people that say Avatar or Castlevania are anime.
WB isn't profitable because they're not giving me enough Sylvester and Wile E Coyote shipping content
>>151027991>implying anime isn't full of whatever trendy overhyped Japanese pop star is being pushed at the moment there's a reason people are sick of Yoasobi
>>151031084The only ones who get shilled in actual anime are vtubers (like that one random Okinawan vtuber who showed up in that Okinawa romcom from earlier this year), the pop stars are only relevant because their song is used for the intro or outro, they're not in the actual movie/show.
>>151027524They already got crunchyroll from them, why would they give a fuck about this.
>>151028999If it goes to universal, than Again, Woody Woodpecker is back to Looney tunes as all of Lantz characters
>>151027524I don't know why this is so funny just coming out and saying yeah we're not interested.
>>151031453>Woody Woodpecker is back to Looney tunes as all of Lantz charactersWas he? Wasn't Lantz associated with Oswald?
>>151027524If they are focusing on anime like they focus on Concord than it wouldn't be a growth segement for them for very long.
>>151027524Great, I can't wait for the western retards at Sony to ruin anime like they did western media
>>151031021You've been following Kitchen in Desert on Xitter as well huh
>>151028792>The weird thing is, anime already *has* gayness and feminism.>The gayness or the feminism isn't the problem. The extremely cringe way that America does it is the problem, where it feels forced and preachy and not in service to anything except a focus group checkbox.Gayness is always a proble, but the thing is, anime actually targets different demographics and can have different stories and morals, while western woke stuff just wants everything to be the same and HATES the idea of targeting males as a demographic. Right now there are people ragging on Twitter because Smilling Friends lacks female characters.
>>151027615>>151028804Yeah Trump literally came out today and said he wants Ellison to own Warner Brothers, which means his DoJ won’t approve any other company buying them. Ellison needs to figure out an offer than Zaslav approves of or start working on the BoD of Warner to usurp and depose Zaslav
>>151028047Yup anime is definitely woke
>>151031704What is a proble?
>>151031788Horns.Furry.Appeals to 4chan dwellersVery woke.
>>151027524Sony's monopoly on anime should be broken up.
>>151032057>That>furryI miss when words had meanings
>>151032057>Appeals to 4chan dwellersThat's the opposite of woke.
>>151027921>Anime is a growth market?Not unless they can convince chud nations like the US or the Saudis to invest in PreCure.>>151028332After getting burned by the Kimmel backlash, Turnip's going to find a way to come at ABC with the full force of the government, one way or another.>>151028529I don't think Ed or anyone else at WBGames are that desperate for a Saudi buyout, especially when devil company EA was just acquired by them.>>151028047You are ugly, bald, and a cuck, Stephen Miller.
>>15103218390% of channers are tranners.Remember that, kids.
>>151032164>ThatLol, where did I say "that"
>>151031788yeah and there's also a children's anime airing right now with an actual lesbian character and a guy who turned out to be gay after being baited as a love interest for the female MC.it's many things
>>151032362Actual actual, or headcanon "actual?"If you want to talk about risque Jap children's shows, you don't need to point to implications and headcanon, there's plenty of clearly inappropriate sexual innuendo and actual sex jokes to point to.
>>151032458Actual as in "she has a one-sided crush on another female character and it can't really be interpreted as friendship"
>>151032536>and it can't really be interpreted as friendshipOkay, so "headcanon," gotcha.
>>151032536And this is the real problem right here. The moment cartoons are officially declared dead, these retards will flood in.
>>151032550but how is that different from forced gay shit in cartoonsit's still the writers trying to bait as hard as possible
>>151032578It's already started.
>>151032578Oh yea, it was kind of a blessing in disguise that all of the most autistic shippers who used to infest anime fandoms in the mid-2000s moved over to cartoons in the early 2010s since they tickled their autism more.It's why I totally support the indieslop "renaissance" since they will gladly soak up all the annoying gay autists of the newer generations.
>>151032596>Little furry animal kisses another little furry animal on the cheek>This is the same as a literal gay wedding or a character introducing their two dads, or a tranny complaining about how their parents didn't validate them enough
>>151031603THE NEXT STAR WARS!
>>151028792Japanese make stories, not ideologies.I know its a hard concept for Americans to understand considering the cartoons they've grown up with in the past.
>>151032183It's actually impressive she can cook without burning her tits off.
>>151028233Unions are the problem here, because these aren't "I work in a mine and need the union to stop me from working 20 hour days" unions, they're "you must join our union or else you do not work, pay us or else you cannot work, btw we only hire our friends" unions.Just look at the US voice actors union vs anywhere else. In the US it's only a handful of actors who work, in Europe they hire theater actors, and in Japan they hire musical talent. Unions in the modern day are a joke, and I'm tired of morons pretending otherwise.
I want sonygger hands as far away from anime as possible
>>151032617>a literal gay wedding or a character introducing their two dads, or a tranny complaining about how their parents didn't validate them enoughbut you can find that in anime toonot defending cartoons, just saying not all anime is blood and tits and cute girls and some of it isn't too different from modern cartoons
>>151032908Can you at least show proof when saying this?
>>151032908>but you can find that in anime tooI don't think I've ever seen a gay wedding in anime aimed at preschoolers.Or kids for that matter.
>>151029033>American artists tend to get stuck in their "artist bubble" where they look at art on twitterArtists navel-gazing and making derivative-of-a-derivative art isn't exclusive to America. Retarded shit like harem and isekai stories are rampant in Japan and often sell better than well-crafted and artistically superior ones. It's just that at least Japan has a system and culture that still overall promotes respecting tradition (i.e. learning your fundamentals and studying the techniques, not surface appearance, of other artstles) and giving rookies a chance so there actually is a 1% of the medium that comes out actually good to incredible. America's problem is that it was literally the Western center of animation and illustration with the technical skills and art education to back it up, but with every decade approaching the 2020s, moves were made to tear down long built artistic traditions and techniques to the point where the level of 2D animation Disney was churning out for things like Fantasia will likely be a straight up lost art once the old masters die. The 1% of good shit is mostly contained to 3D animation in America, hemled by the few American artists that don't fall for the hyperindividualist and post-modern modes of thought that state education, skill, and technique aren't necessary prerequisites to being handed the keys to running a show/movie.
>>151032871Uhm ACTUALLY Sony is a Japanese company desu.
>>151032835>in Japan they hire musical talentYeah, the talent that had already trained itself to sing because being a VA was never going to be a full-paying job, even in the miracle economy.You dumb twat.
>>151028792"A character liking the same sex" is the most naive definition of "gay." "Gay" must be disgusting to look at for Sony to approve of it."A female character being strong" is the most naive definition of "feminism.""Feminism" must demonize and belittle males for Sony to approve of it. You can bet that any anime girl Sony comes up with will be nothing like Homura.
>>151027524They need to focus on the James Bond franchise
>>151033178This isn't the get you think your post is, anon...
Speaking as a US artist, seeing so much investment in anime, seeing the manga section be bigger than the comic section at Barnes and noble, and seeing the internet collectively dickride anime and manga makes me, an artist who wants to make cartoons, feel I am in the wrong spot for a career. Not to say I'm doing this for money, I just love drawing and animating, and thought it would be neat to do it for a living, but I really don't have to if I wanna actually create.I've only stopped myself because I worry you guys would call me a pedophile because I have some characters who are colored, gay and trans. This is not bait, I legit felt shackled by the fear of stupid people controlling my destiny because I thought stupid people ruled the world for pretending to be smart.Turns out all you gotta do is just, whatever the fuck you want. So fuck everything, I'm making my cartoons with big titty blonde women and empowering stories about trannies because I want to.>The audience won't like thatOkay, if you know what the audience wants, then pick up a fucking pencil if you know so Goddamn much about what the audience wants
>>151033182Can you show me where Sony said that?Nobody deliberately makes shit ugly, they try to make shit true to life which to YOU is ugly because you don't get out much. Seriously, Abby just looks like a regular woman and the only reason I feel she can be seen as ugly is because of the uncanny hyper realistic graphics of the game she's from.As for feminism, yeah, of course Hollywood has a shallow idea of what girl power is because they don't wanna write women who are characters, they don't know what that means to have character
>>151033268>Seriously, Abby just looks like a regular womanThis kinda shit is why I stay far away from cartoons these days.If that's your idea of a regular woman I don't want anything to do with anything you create.
I'm still never watching anime. It's all edgy garbage with no substance. Likeable characters. Or even good humor. I just want a fun show about super hero shit cause that's what I like. I can't wait for invincible season 3 it'll be better than every anime ever created. Weeks are generally also the most annoying fan base ever created by their constant off topic threads they spam on this board about how anime is so much better than cartoons. When cartoons are actually appealing at all to begin with.
>>151032871Then you're pretty damn fucking late because>Sony owns Aniplex>by extension it owns A-1 Pictures and CloverWorks>it also completely owns CrunchyrollHOWEVER Sony as a whole is a chimera of a conglomerate. To give you an example the above are owned not by California-based Sony Interactive Entertainment(which in turn is a subsidiary of Sony Corporation of America) that's in charge of gaystation, but rather by completely separate subsidiary that is Sony Music Entertainment Japan
>>151033229FEDORA WEARING OVERWEIGHT FREETHINKER ALERTFEDORA WEARING OVERWEIGHT FREETHINKER ALERTFEDORA WEARING OVERWEIGHT FREETHINKER ALERTDEPLOYING OPPRESSION RAYS
>>151032799I thought Japan pushes neets and oktaus to have sex more, which is why everything is so sexualized.It's almost like everyone has an ideology to push. Might as well say "mind your business" is an ideology
>>151033268> Abby just looks like a regular womanWe know that's you Duckman
>>151027524>and instead will invest in animeIs it kind of fucked how Sony kind of unironically almost has a monopoly on anime? Don't they own the companies and or parent companies of like 80% of all anime production and distribution? How much more of it can they even acquire?
>>151033302I miss Abe
>>151033302>I thought Japan pushes neets and oktaus to have sex more, which is why everything is so sexualized.Japan sexualizes everything because they're horny.The "get marry and have children" stuff is unrelated to that.
>>151033309>Don't they own the companies and or parent companies of like 80% of all anime production and distribution?Uhh...no?They own like 3 studios and Crunchyroll.
>>151033268>Abby just looks like a regular woman
>>151033298Yeah how dare I share a nuanced thought about east vs. westHow dare I believe western cartoons and comics pushing "ideologies" isn't a bad thing because all they're really saying is "mind your damn business"How dare I acknowledge that there are western comics and cartoons that are not just gay soap boxesAnd how dare I choose to like both mediums, especially in the modern age.If there's one thing this thread has proven to me, especially from responses to >>151028792is that nobody here fucking watches western shit cause they think it's all surface level mid.I'm not saying I read more than you, I am saying you sound like you're just giving up on engaging with anything because you assume everything is bad. That sounds like a miserable life, and the fact you think it's no different than getting shat on is stupid. Watching a mid movie is not the same as being shat on, nobody is going to laugh at you for enjoying Steven Universe for what it did right but acknowledging its flaws. It's not blowing up in your face if you watch something that gave you mixed emotions, holy fuck.I always feel like you guys rule the internet and I always feel like I have to follow everything you say so that I can have sex with a woman and get laid and we can all have sex and kill all the bad people in the world because why the fuck else would you be so miserableGOD I have such a horrible taste in men, I love guyfailures and I wanna fucking stop wanting to fuck the Eltingvile club. I hate it here.
>>151033360Aniplex, Kadokawa, and not just Crunchyroll but Funimation too. And Aniplex and Kadokawa aren't mere studios, they're the corps that own all the other studios. Crunchyroll and Funimation are relatively irrelevant, but it does allow them a strangehold on western distribution. They also own some non-Aniplex light novel platform. And several anime studios directly.
>>151033409YesShe has boobs
>>151033486Anon, everyone has boobs! Even you.
>>151033466Sony doesn't own Kadokawa, and Funimation doesn't exist anymore.You might as well say the Saudis own Nintendo because their PIF has a 5% stake in the company.
>>151033503I watch porn, I can tell which boobs are male and female
>>151033515>and Funimation doesn't exist anymoreBecause Sony purchased and absorbed them completely.
>>151033302they also have shows where men don't exist and all the women are super gay for each other so otaku can imagine fixing them with their dick
>>151033542Yes, they were absorbed into Crunchyroll.And these days, Crunchyroll doesn't even have the stranglehold on anime distribution in the west that they had even just 5 years ago.A lot of anime nowadays end up all over, whether it's Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, HIDIVE, even Tubi.Hell, Kaiju no. 8 premiered on fucking Twitter of all places.
>>151033561I remember that yaoi
>>151031001>wagie "journalist""Freelance" "Blogger"/Failed TikTok Content Provider
>>151033323He can fuck off and rot in the ground, the natalism-spewing freak.
>>151031788Sex positivity and female representation is woke, actually
>>151033642That's a female to male trans manSee? I can tell who's who based on how many naked bodies I've seen
>>151033642What a terrible day to have eyes.
>>151028464Each individual WB stock is already selling for more than $20, so I hate to break it to an imbecile but ...>>151028523>>151028655Warner Brother's owns a massive library of content. They are one of the most successful TV production studios at this very moment. Even if a show appears on another network, cable channel or streamer, the TV studio producing it OWNS it and gets to profit every time someone like Netflix puts on something like Sabrina or Sandman, they pay for it but WB TV Studios OWNS it. When ABC pays for Abbot Elementary or Subergatory, WB again OWNS it. Ditto for CBS and Big Bang or Young Sheldon, and many others.
>>151033733Dude I've seen goatse and tubgirl, how is this any worse?
>>151031678 I wasn't before but now I am, thank you. I am obsessed oAo;
>>151027585Paramount couldn't afford WB>noooo they didn't want itthey literally just attempted to buy it
>>151028789>It's terminal rot, it can't be changed without purging the entire industry, which would end up with the same end result.CRASHING THIS PLANEWITH NO SURVIVORS