Some proto-nu male in 1978 complaining about Conan the Barbarian objectifying women. Have these people always existed?
>>151028793>We learned a long time ago the you can't win when dealing with someone who has decided something is "racist" or "sexist." People ... become blind to any possible virtue in something which betrays the slightest hint of the particular "ism" they detest.Will anyone learn this again?
>>151028793>Have these people always existed?yes but they didn't have an entire government and major corporations backing their insanity back then
>>15102879399% of leftwing talking points were started by subversives in the late 60s
>>151028793They gained institutional power in the early 60s, and the generation they raised was reaching teen/adulthood by the late 70s.
>>151028915meds
>>151028793>"her name matters not">Capitalising For Emphasis>pre-emptively dismisses any criticism of his views as the opinions of people who are clearly not as intelligent as he iskek, he even writes like a reddit pseud.
before twitter these people were ignored
>>151028793Pretty sure the concept of objectification is from about this time. I'm more surprised that both sides have been having dialogue for decades, and the discussion hasn't changed at all, the feminists just sort of got what they wanted by being maximally annoying and controlling the government.
>>151028969>>151029063They played the long game.They used false equivalencies ("as if you always agreed with your elders!") and the fearful specter of hypocrisy ("you claim to want the best but you're barring me based on my beliefs!")Based on this, the "conservative" establishment thought they were sincere and would eventually mellow out, but the agenda was always to get power and appoint those of similar views into the hierarchy
>>151028793>Lee WidenerHe now lives in Portland, writes dubious self published fiction and peddles very shitty art. Basically...he's EXACTLY how I pictured him.
>>151029360>the "conservative" establishment thought they were sincere and would eventually mellow outHas this ever once been true?
>>151028995You're brown
>>151029436You're a bot
>>151028793>Have these people always existed?Yes, look at how Moorcock folded after a feminist criticized some rape scene he wrote
>>151028793Yes. :^)
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>>151028915Conservatives currently control all three branches of government for the second time in a decade. If you're losing it's down to you.You cry win you win; you cry when you lose. you'll never be happy.
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>>151028793You should see the old Alan Moore article about Conan.
>>151032277this oughta be good.
>>151030368>MoorcockA greater cuck and lesser writer never walked the halls of fantasy.
>>151032316>A greater cuck and lesser writerRobert E. Howard
the nu male mentality is like>So I never do any sexual act without obtaining her written consent first, and I only make sure to have relationships with women older than 30.
>>151032299It's from a 1983 article called "Sexism in Comics" that's basically just more complaining about Marvel, DC, Conan, manga, and men in general.>Take for example the home-grown rape fantasies that populate our very own Sword-and-Sorcery genre. How many times have you opened up a copy of Savage Sword of Conan to find some barbarian forcing a lithe Kothian dancing girl back into the hay, ignoring her feeble half-hearted complaints and taking his cue from the delirious ecstatic look that the artist has drawn onto her face, showing you that she doesn't mind really. In fact, she likes this sort of treatment. Sure she does. Anyone would enjoy being sexually assaulted by an illiterate musclebound oaf who stinks of bear grease. That's most people's idea of a good night out.>The message of this sort of story is that women enjoy rape and that they say "No" when they mean "yes". When one reads in the papers about some of the astonishing proclamations made by judges presiding over rape cases, one wonders if our entire judicial authorities were not given copies of "Conan the Rapist" to read during their formative years. The other message contained in this material is that real men are good at drinking, reducing people to dog-food with their broadswords and interfering with tavern wenches.>Strange that Conan's creator, Robert E. Howard was in reality a rather sad and lonely figure who never managed to sever his intense emotional bond with his mother. When she died he drove out to some waste land and blew his own brains out. Conan and all his other heroes were unashamed escapist fantasies of the way he would have liked to have been.>It is a great pity that he couldn't have diverted his undoubted energies into something a bit more positive and healthy. It's a greater pity that he has doomed the following generations of his fans to endless reruns of his hopelessly insecure dreams of brute sex, white slavery and mindless violence.
>>151032316>>151032350You are both worthless faggots.
>>151032358>In fact, she likes this sort of treatment. Sure she does. Anyone would enjoy being sexually assaulted by an illiterate musclebound oaf who stinks of bear grease. That's most people's idea of a good night out.They do, women schlick themselves to the very thought of it.
>>151032358This man has never made a woman cum, I can guarantee it. >never managed to sever his intense emotional bond with his mother. ah, I see, so he's one of those male feminists who hates women.
>>151032358>When one reads in the papers about some of the astonishing proclamations made by judges presiding over rape cases, one wonders if our entire judicial authorities were not given copies of "Conan the Rapist" to read during their formative years.the 80s were the Dark Ages, even judges and cops barely took rape cases seriously and would say the woman was asking for it because she went and got drunk or showed too much cleavage or walked in a sketchy party of town alone
>>151028793>Have these people always existed?Yes but companies knew how to say "No" to them or outright ignore them. They lost that ability somewhere down the line, fell into the trap of thinking they have to obey whatever any random crazy person demands.
>>151032427>They lost that ability somewhere down the line, fell into the trap of thinking they have to obey whatever any random crazy person demands.or to say they got tax breaks from the government for it
>>151032358>>The message of this sort of story is that women enjoy rape and that they say "No" when they mean "yes".PsstI'll tell you a secretThey do that, IRLWomen's concept of ideal sensual romance is when the man they like is so overcome by lust that he outright rapes herAsking for permission is icky to them because it's weak, beta behaviorFor evidence of this, read any one of the ten million women's romance novels and see what the sex in them is likeLiterally the only difference between rape and perfect romantic sex from a woman's perspective is if she likes the guy or not (she doesn't need to ever verbally confirm this)
>>151032461incel hands typed this post
>>151032472Find a romance novel, written by a woman for women, and read it. Your mind will be blown.
>>151032427and at some point when women decided that consent could be revoked post-sex if she regretted it afterward or didn't like the guy's performance
>>151032486>>151032389>>>/r9k/
It's not as if Marvel weren't always pretty SJW since the 60s.
Actually yeah, women have pretty lame, vanilla sexual fantasies they just want some dominant dude to throw them around.
>>151029443You're an ass fucking fag
>>151032514>>>/tumblr/
>>151033300>>>/kiwifarms/
