https://youtu.be/qusKXjwidww?si=kOfbJHBfdiLMA_emHoly crap, it's really over isn't it?TL;DW: industry vet of 20+ years says that it is now impossible to get a show greenlit at this point and encourages people to set up their own YouTube channels/social media with the expectation that profit may never come.
>>151034680Only bright side is that I now feel less bad about never becoming a showrunner. At least I can post on newgrounds
Thanks, millennials. Your refusal to go to therapy and instead channel every single non-problem you had in life into your cartoons paid off. Now we don't get cartoons anymore because talking to an audience about panic attacks and trauma from the one time your dad yelled at you was more important than making a cool show with cool characters kids would like. Hope making all the references to anime you grew up with instead of making something good was worth it.
>>151034680Yupparoo, I'm thinkin' indie won.
>>151034680>Maxwell Atoms had to repeatedly sell his belongings before finally moving out of LA and probably quitting outside of remote indie work>Fag in pic rel had to set up a gofuckme page because he went broke a while back>Creator of Clarence, Skylar Page, is a rambling alcoholic who went homeless and to prison at one point. Now he uploads a bunch of sad rants about his fuckupsAny other industry downfalls?
>>151034761>Yupparoo, I'm thinkin' indie won.sure… until the same people who contributed to the death of industry animation start worming their way into the indie scene, causing the rot to happen all over again
>>151034722You're welcome.
>>151034942>the same people who contributed to the death of industry animation start worming their way into the indie sceneSo capitalists
>>151034680The 90s-2010s were an anomaly in animation that is sadly going to revert.Indie animation won't be big enough to truly replace it unless YouTube restores its monetization method to pre 2017 levels. Otherwise, only the likes of Glitch, Vivzie, Flashgitz, and maybe Meatcanyon will make it
>>151034680Gonna keep it real anyone with a brain figured this out even before 2020. If you payed any attention to any interview it was clear already that companies only wanted to work on established IP during those years. Whatever bullshit hiring they did during the pandemic was always flash in the pan so I always knew any dreams of """""making it""""" were gone until some major thing changed. Plus wasnt it Stephen Silver who did another vid like towards the end of last year saying that the union fucked basically any chance of newcomers coming in cause they couldnt secure no outsourcing and no AI?For any anon who is still trying to """""""make it"""""" either get a sugar momma/daddy to help fund your dream or(the more real option) just get started on your dream project right fucking now cause all the rich fucks are just hoarding money for themselves until guys with pitchforks come and get it. If its some big budget animation idea you have shrink it down motherfucker, make it a childrens book or a comic or be satisfied with making a pretty decent but rough as fuck animatic and you doing all the voices. Were in shit times but artists in the past were still making stuff, dont wait for a rich fuck to bring your vision to lifet. hopeless /ic/ fag
>>151034680Looks like it's time to post this Ralph Bakshi clip againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WApcUBcVMos
and how is this a bad thing? industry kills art. the more people get out of it, the better.
>>151034891meanwhile emptyhero has a full time job as a brain surgeon and lives in a mansionhttps://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/943066
>>151034722It’s actually the fault of billionaire, but alright.
>>151036534it's good advice except for>you'll be rich at the end of itthat's retarded, most things fail
They weren't the ones making the cartoons. Or writing the cartoons.
>>151036644people still need to eat to create art anon
>>151034722Sounds about right.>>151035821Also right. The reboot thing hasbeen happening for a few years now. And they kept fucking it up to do their own thing every time.
>>151034680>guy who can't get work gets you to click through to his channel that pays him for saying clickbait shityou're an idiot
>>151037056get a job then.
>>151037248I honestly don't know where or how to pivot my career prospects I'm not in the industry but had hopes of joiningTruth is I am a complete failure of a humanTerrified to drive a car or even be in one. I don't leave my houseHave had multiple jobs but were in the retail sector and I end up sperging outLow IQ so I doubt I'd be good for stemHonestly I don't see myself being anything anymorePic rel not mine
>>151037247Ecelebmaxxing is the new meta other than tradefagging or military.Even with moderate viewership, if your videos are long and you post enough, you can at least make some side money
>>151034722In our defense, if we hadn't destroyed cartoons, zoomers would have turned them all into Skibidi Toilet anyway. And not in a deliberate Adult Swim way.
>>151037352shut up dalton
>>151034680i think the only thing that's worth watching on cable are reruns of adult animation back in the day, king of the hill rocks.
>>151034680>THERE IS NO FUTURE FOR ORIGINAL ANIMATIONSaying this, the same year pic related came out and was a total hit, is weird.
>>151037764Exception not rule
>>151035570> Glitch, Vivzie, Flashgitz, and maybe Meatcanyon will make itAnd of those only Glitch and Vivzie could make it because they have studios. I’m not sure if independent creators can replace the infrastructure of Hollywood studios. I think about how Monkey Wrench has such high quality animation, higher than what you see on TV, and there’s no way to keep doing that unless you have the team and resources which I doubt Zeurel has. >>151034942What worries me are the executive types worming their way into indie. Those clowns are the real culprits of everything that’s gone wrong, not the artists
>>151036930>EmptyfaggitI think you mean he needs a brain surgeon and he was found in Epstein’s mansion. Which is true
>>151034891Nico deserves everything he is getting
>>151037831Flashgitz has a studio, they mentioned in a recent-ish Tom & Don video that they've got a crew of almost a hundred people working on Space King. So they don't have a big corporate studio that picked them up, but they have their own little kingdom nonetheless.
>>151038044>they've got a crew of almost a hundred peopleno.I refuse to believe this.Not with the amount of money they're pulling in from patreon.Hiring 10 people at $20k a year minimum is $200k.Then add VO, music, audio design, etc, and you're exceeding $500k.But I bet they would be paying their employee's higher than $20k a year because that's fucking poverty wages.Also if they had almost 100 people they would be pumping out episodes weekly.
>>151037764Nah anon you gotta use your critical brain here, KPOp, while successful, is itself part of a trend where a big publisher will look for scraps that it can buy on the cheap from artists or failed studio ideas and flip it as their own. TADC is big on Youtube? Buy streaming rights to put it on our shit. The guy who's making KLAUS is like 75% done? Pay in just enough to get it done and get the rights to it. Sony is fucking being retarded? Invest in it, secure rights, and now that shit is OUR success and not there's.It's actually a reason why in a previous post I'm telling you fags to start your dream project now. If studios want established IP you gotta make your own. It's harder and odds are still fucked, but there is no other option so at least if by some miracle your idea gets big It's yours and you can sell some film rights
>>151038193>he thinks it's just PatreonMERCH YOU IDIOT YOU DIDNT THINK IF THE CHEAP MERCH
>>151036930How is this possible? Brain surgeon jobs have less openings than CEOs and are harder to make it in. I'm a med student and there are a dozen or so openings a year only. How does a person with weirdo interests enough to be an internet cartoon dweller climb his way to one of the most competitive normie jobs?
>>151038193>VOTom and Don voice almost everyone and any other actor is probably doing it for mate ratesAlso, prior to space king they had a fairy consistent schedule
>>151038193Numbers are inflated due the freelance artist that don't operate under contract but they are actually used as actives in their resources.As far as I know, they are paid by job done rather than a monthly payment.Their largest work is mostly to pay people to do the riggings and models, something similar as what happen to redminus
>>151038242You're forgetting income taxes and percentage cuts.
>>151035049Capitalism also gave rise to cartoons before, to sell toys and such like with Transformers.What happened in the last decade or two that changed so much? This isn't just capitalism or the same kind of capitalism.
>>151038193You'd be appalled at how low freelancers will work for
>>151035821>all the rich fucks are just hoarding money for themselves until guys with pitchforks come and get it.I agree with all you said so I curious why you think they're doing this? If I was rich, I would want to spend money making my dream show come true even if it flops because I have "fuck you" money. Which the rich increasingly does because the rich got richer. I would get it if shows can't be greenlit in some commie utopia where everyone is middle class and big media projects aren't feasible. Why are they hoarding money? Why has media and culture come to a complete standstill outside of slop on social media?
>>151037831>Vivzie somehow became one of the biggest name in all of animation.Just when I thought the world couldn't get any grimmer, I come to THIS realization.
im gonna watch this even though the title of the video is attention whory and gay youtuber shit
>>151038316Well listen a trend I noticed in general is that, at some point, the elites got rich enough to a point where they found that instead of using their capital to invest in creating media(or anything really) the bigger game is to just move money around in shit like stock, stock buybacks, shares, shit in that sphere. That's why time and time again you hear stories about layoffs, hours being cut, shit getting cancelled left and right, cause to the people with the money, in the short term they saved millions to make line go up.Then on the creative side of things, unlike the olden days where you had to convince one coked up CEO to greenlite your idea, EVERY FUCKING STUDIO has some form of a trust group of """"vets""""" who are just as clueless as the coked up CEO, but are high on theor own farts and make """""calculated""""" decisions(they hire their friends) and create circle jerk films that bomb but who cares if it bombed they got payed and they have tenure(hoarding money)
>>151038316>>151038462I mean this can be summed up like this:1. The U.S. economy is fake and gay, literally propped up by Blackrock debt and fake money printed by the Fed and moved around to scam investors2. Multiple studios put agenda-pushing (an inclusion of women) above money3. Because of #2, when their woke crap fails, they look for the safe option to make back their cash. Hence reboots4. Studio heads are now MBAs with no interest in the craft instead of animators/storytellers. Similar to Boeing, that was founded by engineers and run to the ground by financebros
>>151038316Because they're not actually monetarily rich.They are WORTH (insert amount here).They're just borrowing money from the bank with their shares as collateral.If their company was to go bankrupt overnight they would be penniless.The only multimillionaire who actually does what you say is the father of the guy who started Laika.The only reason other millionaires or billionaires don't do it is because they're uninterested in it and have other passion projects they want to funnel their money into.
>>151038266Listen man, I'm not smart enough to come up with a new term, but whatever the fuck system we are in now is not capitalism anymore. Like I can't recall a time where rich fucks insisted the only way to make money is just cycle it back and forth between each other and fore people, and where every big innovation/product pushed by elites are literally just scams.
>>151038559*fire peopleMy bad
>>151038266>>151038559Reaganomics.Inflation.Hoarding.Feudalism.(i.e. companies buying up houses and renting them out)Lack of accountability.Loose laws that don't protect the citizens from scumbags trying to fleece them.
>>151034680Steven Silver recently gave up his daily inspirational messages and videos and quit animation to go be a teacher. Shit's over.
This video was dogshit. Just a whiny person crying about a changing industry. No shit no ones accepting new pitches, most of the money has dried up from the industry. Wow - popular stuff gets adaptations who would’ve guessed. This guy just seemed like someone butthurt that they cant make dogshit shows anymore and be slightly successful.
>>151034722It was a bit of this. Every new movie was the director's self insert complaining about their parents and panic attacks.But also the fact that they kept hiring angry Tumblr bitches to helm all the reboots of 90s shows that they personally hated like Thundercats, Clone High, Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, Ren & Stimpy, Velma, She-Ra, MOTU, and TMNT and made bitchy preachy bulshit that never had an audience at all.
>>151034680adult swim is picking up alot of youtubers
>>151037352as i said, get a non-artist job and stop yapping about your career
>>151035570It actually was. The mid 90s to 2011 or so was a really unprecedented time when there was a very strong chance someone could pitch a cartoon and have a full series of their own creation on a major network. That shit was unheard of before Nicktoons. And it looks like that is gone for good now.
>>151037764grim
>>151038462>trust groups have "tenures"?What the maniacal fuck? What does that even mean? Not shitting on your point, I just had no idea. Professors have tenure because they on the surface need to have immunity to fuck around in case a dubious research idea actually gets some worth out of it later. As far as I'm aware these banal monkeys make flops and that's just a fail. What gives?>>151038518>Studio heads are now MBAs with no interest in the craft A great tragedy of the modern time, maybe of ancient times too. Finance bros should exist to help the idea guys to make things feasible, like finding ways to increase value and monetize things so they have enough money to make the next project. Now the project doesn't exist because they're at the top for some reason. >>151038521I feel like they do have some money to spend, hence all the expensive vacations and yachts and so on. Maybe it's all with borrowed money from banks and investors like you said though. Still money is money and can't they invest it in something real instead of a scam? Anyway, I guess the rich are too old to be into cartoons.
>>151038775What job should I get? I flat out have no clue
>>151038921Someone will say McDonald's or retail but I'd argue homelessness is preferable. >Retail wagie for over a decade dealing with boomers, shaniquas, Timmy zoomers and alphies, immigrants who literally can't speak or read English, all for money that can't cover rentLiving in a car now
Not my problem.The only cartoons I watch these days are Smiling Friends and Space King.
>>151038921how should i know? i'm not you. i don't even know what country you're from.
>>151034680The old system hasn't really worked out and has been dying from incompetent corporate bullshit for the last 10 years or more. This guy worked through the death throes of an industry that's been terminally cancerous and now can't foresee a future for himself where the stuff he's done for decades and the kind of business with hollywood parasites that he's always done will not continue to work anymore.
>>151038807I used the wrong term, it would have been better to say "contracts" but you get what I mean. Whatever deal they got when they were hired usually makes it hard or expensive as fuck for them to get fired over a failed movie(or multiple) Like Kathleen Kennedy is the most obvious example, bomb after bomb after bomb but she still gets to keep making big decisions when its obvious no one likes what she puts out, but she cant be let go cause the hush money required to let her go quietly into the night would be too great.
There is a future in everything, but not in the West. Western civilization is done. Moralfags and christcucks that are now in power are only hastening its demise. We should've embraced Asian freedom of expression, true freedom, like the Japanese. We did the exact opposite first with the SJW crap and now with the moralfag takeover. Nothing of value can or will ever be produced in the West for centuries barring almost godlike changes. And that's only on top of the fact we're done in other ways. Economically, technologically, demographically. It's all essentially over and the christcuck solution is a regression into barbarism at best. Islam tier shit.
>>151038921See if something more community centric is available. My first job was a local after school program and I got to teach kids about art and cooking and stuff while I was studying. Im sure there are other community opportunities that dont involve surrounded by kids cause that can be hell so look into that. Also as much as people shit talk about wagie jobs here if you can do something in that field like stock or managing the back where you dont actually gotta deal with customers that isnt as stressful. Even, and I say this without joking, being an actual janny isnt that bad of a gig cause people will leave you alone to just do your job. Do any of those things and just work on your projects on the side.
>>151039719Thanks anon
>>151034891>Now I and about 95% of the people I know get to work at grocery stores & gas stationshey welcome to real life bitch nigga! where your fagass animation diploma doesnt do shit, now hustle! your 2nd shift is coming up
>We should've embraced Asian freedom of expression, true freedom, like the Japaneseasians have that? why do they never show it?
>>151038266Animation was only able to be profitable in an environment where it didn't have as much competition and where kids played with toys and where selling ad space was profitable. Kids stop playing with toys at younger and younger ages, streaming abandoned the fined-tuned ad space model and now animation must now compete with video games, social media, and all animation ever made before that is available on streaming.Used to be that a kid would only have like three options to watch cartoons between the major kids networks. Imagine millions of bored kids, having to pick between THREE things to watch. A kid now doesn't EVER need to watch anything new again, ever. They can just watch old episodes of Avatar, or Swat Kats, or Scooby Doo, or Powerpuff girls, or some weird shit from 1970s Japan. They are absolutely spoiled for choice, they wouldn't have enough time to watch everything that was available to them made before 2010.
I hate practically every cartoon I see now.When the intent behind a work is for the creator to amass a cult of worship from it, your body can feel it.You sense can the narcissism.Every indie pilot on youtube is somebody begging me to care about their internet OCs.
>>151039983I mean, that's every story, every cartoon pitch and every cartoon that actually gets made
>>151039994If you seriously can't tell the different spiritually between "character" and "OC" and the difference in attitude between those two words, then there's no helping you.
>>151040024I get what you mean, but once a person actually goes through with all the effort required to make a pilot their characters can no longer meaningfully be considered OCs anymore, can they? Like, THE thing about OCs is that the creator doesn't do anything substantial with them.
>>151039994nah. hazbin and digital circus were clearly made with a certain group of people in mind to autistically latch on to and spread like wildfire. stuff like dexter's lab or catdog were made because they wanted to make a cartoon. even nickelodeon does this, if a new show isn't an instant hit like spongebob, they cancel it after one season.
>>151034891>corporate meddling and executive greedNot in this case. Truth is animation got screwed sideways because they got run over with nepotism hires who did not understand that animation has to be financed with merchandising or propaganda or by excessively cutting costs.Merchandising went to shit because kids play games instead of toys now, mostly free games. Propaganda only worked because so, so much tax payer money was actually being funneled through NGOs and investment bundles to artificially promote the propaganda under the lie that people want to see it or even watch it. The tap is turned off, cry about it commies.I dont blame animators or execs. The new animators I think we're idiots but they were raised up along this career track where no one was smacking sense into them and it was working within the period of time it did. I dont blame execs because they were trying everything under the sun to try and make a successful model with two or three paradigms were shifting at once. By that I mean children's interests, TV to streaming, nerd culture becoming lucrative making cartoon voice actors celebrities, etc.
>>151040044The stink of being an OC still lingers even once they've become an official characters in something.The designs are still obnoxious, their manner of speech is still tropey, the range of expressions on their face are still limited, their goals are still generic and so is their journey they go on. All hallmarks of bad writing and flat characterisation are still there.It used to be easy to dismiss this crap because it generally stayed within OC spaces on the internet, but now its seeped its way into cartoons and its just what characters have become now, they're just OCs that have graduated from the ghetto.You look at the original Loony Tunes characters like Bugs Bunny and Elma Fudd and you can feel the humility in their creators and the spontaneous joy they felt when making them. These are characters largely based off real people that the cartoonists knew, they're a reflection of the creator's appreciation for life and human connections.All I feel from characters like Loki from Loki IRL or those dudes from Monkey Wrench is that... the creator likes cartoons, and uh, they want to make one themselves and want it to get famous just like their favourite cartoon did. Cool.
>>151040157Nigger comparing some faggy newgrounds cartoons to fucking Looney Tunes.Amateur writers can't write, yeah, we all know thatMost indie animators should pair up with trained writers
>>151040206Okay you're right, using those shows was pretty low.Hazbin Hotel is basically the perfect example do this kinda thing.
>>151040157>These are characters largely based off real people that the cartoonists knew, they're a reflection of the creator's appreciation for life and human connectionsHere we go anon's same old discussions about how to make ideas and using Looney tune characters as example of same old topics which aren't true
>>151040157>>151040545Aren't most of the original looney toons based on old comedians and celebrities?
>>151040555Yeah but they're not based on people that the creators actually know in real life, like does Tex Avery personally know who Clark Gable or Groucho Marx in real life?
meanwhile, the indi scene
>>151035821>shrink it downMost important part. I've let so many projects die by doing it "properly" and hating it a few years in. You have to accept never reaching your full potential once there's other commitments like making money sucking all the energy out of you. But at least have something to show for it.captcha: RRAWR
>>151034722>>151036965The main main MAIN reason the main western animation industry died is because kids do not watch television shows from them anymore, only films, as they moved to gaming and youtube and tiktok. Regular animated series are a thing for teens and adults now. And the boomer execs are so into the idea that animation is only for children the way they grew up that they think now there is no audience for animation and even with facts to their face refuse to fund it. They would rather animation die because their golden goose audience who will watch anything died then go for the new demographic. They will watch anime start trouncing western animation and do nothing.Streaming CAN support new western animation, easily. The costs for the cable-era animated shows are way lower then the other main studio originals they do. They can make whole gorgeous 2d films for 15 million or less. They simply do not want to and the only thing that will change it is some younger execs who grew up on later content to come in and wonder why the US has no industry
>>151037831>"the executive types … are the real culprits of everything that’s gone wrong, not the artists"The animators are responsible for the shitty state the animation industry is in, not the executives who have to make the hard choices few can comprehend, nor the audiences whose decisions are purely based on how many featherless bipeds pay the most for something based on how effective a campaign is at convincing them
>its the executives and powerful people on top who are to blame!Only partly. You niggas working on the bottom also can't fucking draw or write for shit.
>>151039606That makes sense but then again, in something like sports, teams and companies pay tens or even hundreds of millions for contract buyouts for really big figures because they want to get rid of them for political reasons or because they aren't doing a good enough job. Of course, this doesn't always happen with looters like Kawhi Leonard and that bum Ben Simmons who are paid for nothing. I think it's probably cause they have some corporate entanglements that make it hard for management to get rid of them, which can potentially be solved by replacing the right people. I know people online like to say it's all designed but while manipulation always happens, it doesn't mean incompetence and lack of will to deal with bullshit like trying to get rid of Kennedy doesn't exist either.
>>151039150Begs the question, why has it worked before? I feel like execs of the past was willing to try new things to entice people to come watch their channel, new shows, cool ads, response to rival companies products (shows, characters, teamups...etc.)But now? It seems like they're all of the landed gentry rentor mentality where they have properties and just "rent" them out. Subscription services is a big thing where they just move around shows and the library is big enough that people pay the fee for access to go through their bucket list. So why hasn't the channels and so on just recycle old shows ad nauseam before like they are now? Why is screwing over the customer with old, decrepit, disposable garbage an actual business now where as before it wasn't seen as viable? What has changed in the landscape where now they are more invulnerable?
>>151034722>millennials>refusal to go to therapyLOLLMAO
>>151039903NTA but I would re-characterize it as Asians have more fight in them. East Asia especially but SEAfags too to a lesser extent. They're so used to oppression from all sides, expectations from society, competition with peers in an already overflowing market, demands from parents, government restrictions, traditions and old heads they must abide, they become like trapped animals trying to claw at the cage or scheme up ways to get their release. You clamp down on a population too much and it'd lead to the lid flying off the pressure cooker. In a way, they want freedom more because the forbidden fruit is sweeter.
>>151042500With cartoons, one of the big issues is that every company that produces cartoons decided to outsource all of their market research to social media, which is why every cartoon these days feels like it's made for twitter or bluesky and no one else.
>>151039903what makes you think they don't?
>>151042555you are just repeating streotypes
>>151034680>with the expectation that profit may never comeHoly crap, it's like EVERY ARTISTIC ENDEAVOUR EVER
>>151042611Yeah but it's true.
it's 100% obvious that the westerners have been using false progressivism to justify their racism against asians especially the japaneseit's really astonishing there are so many shitty half-truths about japan that gaijins naively believe and most of them have zero self awareness on why they WANT to believe them
>>151042742not really
i remember there was a blog of a gaijin teacher working at a japanese university and he was basically seriously saying japanese uni studets were the most retarded students he has ever seen, which was pretty extream and he was clearly biased but even that shit is better than typical gaijin fantasies like jap students study 8 hours per day and are struggling due to super high expectation from parents etc etc jap uni students are actually pretty lazy in general and don't study anything much there are many cases like this
>>151042751In what way is it not true? Are you Asian? Do you even know what it's like for Asian kids to grow up there?
>>151043019Yeah. There are retards everywhere but Japan is definitely not an example of the stereotypical smart nerd haven. Just observe how they are forced to learn English from grade school into high school but still suck ass so much they can't even have basic 2-sentence conversations with them, nevermind the accent. Speaking of education, I wager the reason for their aloofness and lack of performance is because they've either given up on society or the brute force structure of the system really doesn't mold smart students. Making them repeat the same bullshit, unusable phrases for an hour each day isn't going to make them good if it doesn't teach them understanding. I am a little suspect of those blogs though, there are many online rants from westerners shitting on different parts of Asia.
>>151037764It was supposed to be an adaption of League of Legend's K/DA. So, not actually an original.
>>151038559>Listen man, I'm not smart enough to come up with a new term
>>151034722Just so you know, a lot of those weepy types DO go to therapy and it just inspires them to be more external about their hangups.
>>151044257So it still counts as capitalism? I'm a little hesitant to call it capitalism because nothing is really being made. What's being traded? The whole means of production is barely there.
>>151034722Don't forget their incessant need to worship gay shit.Black lives matter y'all Trannies are perfect little angels that do nothing wrong ever
>>151040843>least performative shock value post on 4chan
>>151036965Cope
>>151034761That was riged by bots, MeTV Toons won by just giving people what they want.>>151037764Only in western markets, it bombed in Asian markets.
>>151036965The fault lies with, as with most things, women. Women chose careers over having families. Women saturated the job market and asked for lower wages than what men would ask for, so now men can't earn a salary that can pay for a single-income household, let alone find a wife who woman to get married and give up her independence. And the most relevant thing of all, if women don't have kids then there's nobody to watch cartoons.Why do you think McDonalds went from looking like little family amusement parks to looking like methadone clinics? The clientele is getting older and older, that's why. For three decades kids were everywhere, and there was an entire booming economy around just making stuff for kids, and then the bottom fell out on our population. Birthrates around western countries plummeted as women embraced careerism (rebranded as feminism) and men became a minority in universities.Then came the most destructive sales pitch of all, the lie that this problem could be solved by importing millions and millions of people from poorer countries because poorer countries have more children per parent. As it would turn out, as soon as people come to a developed first world country, they stop having kids because our countries never fixed the root problems, so to keep the population from going underwater they say we need to bring in even more migrants.Eventually if this set of events is not reversed then we'll be living in countries where there are more people who were born oversees and immigrated than there are people who were actually born there, because it will be the only way to keep the population number from going underwater, and shame on you if you ask what that will do to a country economically and culturally. And do you think that a country whose majority is adult foreigners who barely speak the language of the land they're in are going to care about watching cartoons?
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>>151038559>>151044310It's simply the end result of capitalism. Everyone has access to much more crap than 50 years ago and should be perfectly content, so you have to make them unhappy, wanting more or sick to keep making money because if everyone's needs are actually fulfilled you don't make any money and capitalism is all about making these funny numbers go up.
>>151034942>>151034761INDIE IS ALREADY AS BAD AS THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA. LOOK WHO'S BEHIND INDIE CARTOONS>Vivziepop & Gooserwox>These retarded zoomers can't even GoogleFINEThis is exactly what executives look like.Indie animation continues the downfall of animation.
>>151045349God they're both so brown.>inb4 mutts ask: but but they look white!!Fucking mutts don't know what a white person looks like.
>>151045401>>151045349>>151040843>This is what 4chan retards consider "normies"These are not normal people you morons.
>>151038218Sony and Netflix collaborated before with Wish Dragon, so it's less about buying it for scraps and more about continuing a partnership. It's just this one hit way harder than WD ever did.>>151043883Source or bullshit
>>151044310>I'm a little hesitant to call it capitalism because nothing is really being madeNo but the company is getting bigger as it buys out other ones, fires everyone, releases garbage, and the guys on top are getting wealthy and that’s what counts!
>>151045401>Using the fake name from the drama /co/ had on The Savant.https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/150844106/#q150863442Come on now Barneyfag, Gooseworx never posted any personal info to the public, even on The Savant he is still credited as Gooseworx.>Created by Gooseworx.>Composed by Gooseworx.>Staring Gooseworx as Jessica Chastain.Just take the L and admit defeat, it's not that had.
