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I'm sorry, why is Stella the bad guy for trying to kill someone who is allowing people to commit serial murders in exchange for buttsex again?
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I wish Stella was real.
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I wish Stella's huge ass was real.
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>>151039022
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Because she's a woman. And the show is about why men become gay. If Stella wasn't thrown under the bus by vizzipop it would make it more difficult to justify why straight sex is disgusting to the audience. The entire fan base of the show being gay men and women is the result of this agenda to demonize regular relationships with healthy pussy in vagina sex as intended. Stella had her baby that's all she's good for doing for the story which is why she's been written out of the story and portrayed as evil. For vizzipop hates the idea of a woman and a man procreating with each other hense the focus on gay drama nobody asked for but her gay fan base of her gay show. Nobody in the show who has a kid is shown in a good light at all. Besides the one who adopted his kid because he's a faggot and the least gay men can do is adopt. If Stella was gay, vizzipop wouldn't have her try to kill stolas and she wouldn't be a Villan simple as that. Gay people can do no wrong at all.
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I deleted the Loona thread because I could tell it was going to turn to shit, so here we are.
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>>151039042
Meds.
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>>151039055
My poor wife.
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>>151039055
>deletes thread lest it becomes shit
>brings the cause of shit into another thread
Makes sense.
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Loona drunk off her ass, snoring loudly on the reception desk.
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>>151039091
That's not the only thing she's doing loudly in her sleep.
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>>151039055
Remember the golden rule to not take bait or feed trolls. Flinging shit just results in more shit.
>>151039091
>anon placing a blanket over her and a pillow under her head
>throw in a couple ear scratches
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>>151039101
Quit trying to huff her dog breath.
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Does anyone know the artist to this?
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>>151039101
Drink Bleach.
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After reading the new chapter I think Inco and Anon should have a bonding session over them killing Inco's cheating GF a second time. Its literally all her fault both Inco and Anon are dead lol (ignore that Inco killing her was technically what caused it all, in this house we stan Inco and hate cheaters!)
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>>151039057
You may say meds yet I'm one hundred perfect right. There's no examples of the show having a man in a traditional masculine role that's a good role model for men like myself. Blitzo is gay. Stolas is gay. Moxxie is bisexual. All the male protagonists are in some way gay period. Vizzipop wants all men to be gay in her world if they are to be seen as good people. Each villain is straight. Stolas's dad is straight. Moxxies dad is straight. Stella is straight. This isn't a coincidence at all anon.
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>>151039104
>throw in a couple ear scratches
>her ear flicks
>her foot taps
Anon:
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>>151039116
Already did.

>>151039126
>Each villain is straight.
Hold on there, buckaroo. According to Vizzipop (lol) Andrealphus is a fag.
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>>151039091
I like that we have two instances of this already (Granted, it was in the meeting room)
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>>151039116
Better to just hide and ignore, dude. You'll only encourage him
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>>151039042
There is a nugget of truth in there somewhere.
>>151039055
Understandable, but we cant keep doing Stella or Octavia threads otherwise they'll become like the Loona threads.
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>>151039139
Settle down there Dark urge
>>151039148
There's so many other girls you could post
Mayberry? Emberlynn?
This is basically crop rotation but with cartoon girls
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>>151039125
>Its literally all her fault both Inco and Anon are dead lol
Maybe if the guy who rigs his boxing matches didn’t sperg out and literally murder someone in cold blood then all of this could have been avoided. Perhaps Anon, realizing that Inco was in no sound state of mind should’ve talked Inco out of the match rather than trying to profit off of him.
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>>151039141
I've no idea who that is but it's probably a minor villan who likely didn't accomplish much in the first place because if he did do something evil while being gay it wouldn't go over well with the fanbase so vizzipop just had the gay villain be a one shot side character. Nobody in this world who is gay can be depicted as evil. Gay people can't be bad.
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>>151039178
He literally took Stolas' house, powers, daughter and all his possessions.
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>>151039193
Dude's just baiting.

>>151039148
>Understandable, but we cant keep doing Stella or Octavia threads otherwise they'll become like the Loona threads.
Fatigue is starting to set in, isn't it? Doesn't help that there's always a new thread immediately after the old one dies, but with scant new topics to discuss.
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>>151039193
Well uh. He actually accomplished a lot because he was gay. My point still stands that straights can't accomplish much in this universe but be jokes. Stella is straight. She is a villan who never does or accomplished anything besides giving birth. In vizzipops hell you have to become gay to be powerful.
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>>151039174
Mayberry is a great one, Verosika, Roxanne, Millie, Bel, Leviathan, Solas, Strika, Andrea, Agent Two, Gigi.
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>>151039220
These threads could do with a rest period
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>>151039223
>In vizzipops hell you have to become gay to be powerful.
But Anon, your initial argument was that each villain was straight. Crimson and Paimon are both straight (as far as we know) and powerful. You even said so yourself, here >>151039126
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>Stella singing 'I like to move it move it'
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Look at millie for example. Millie despite being a main character is straight so she never does anything that's not related to her man. She's practically written to just be a woman that will never do anything but be impregnated. Vizzipop isn't subtle about how she feels about straights.
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>>151039260
I want to see Stella with Gloria's physique and a big fat bouncy chicken ass
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>>151039269
Okay.
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>>151039244
They could... but autism rests for nothing or no one. Even empty, forced discussion has merit to them, I suppose.

>>151039228
>Leviathan
My man.
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>>151039269
Okay.
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>>151039260
I think she'd like Rainbow, Dokken or others.
https://youtu.be/ughtJ6nLowY
https://youtu.be/r5sC5shUflg
https://youtu.be/WuXwSyahgW4
https://youtu.be/v9TP5V1b6EA
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>>151039002
SEXOOOOO SEXXXX WITH STELLA SEX SEX SEX
STELLA
STELLA
STELLA SEXXX SEXOOOO BREEDING SEX WITH STELLA
CLOACA STRETCHING, FEATHER RUFFLING, EGG MAKING, LOVING BREEDING SEX WITH STELLA FOR LIFE
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>>151039274
>>151039284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EfvHUs_EgY
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>>151039282
Yeah if one person doesn't make a thread someone else will. Ah well.
>Bee has an iron stomach
>more than an iron stomach
>anything she eats liquefies into lava for the lamp, giving her no issues aside from the odd belch once in a while
If Bee asked you to take her on a tour of restaurants across Earth, where would you take her? She's buying.
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>>151039257
I'm going to change my argument based on the evidence provided that not every villan is straight. However the villan you did say was gay was only stated to be so by vizzipop... perhaps she didn't want to write him a scene in the show of him being gay on purpose? So that it doesn't become clear to the audience that a gay man can be evil. Without looking further into his character of course. I digress it's just when so many of the male protagonists are gay or gay adjacent and have problems with women its not a good look for how vizzipop likely thinks of straight people.
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>>151039286
I wish I could find the Xitter post to confirm, but I recall Georgina Leahy (Stella's VA, and a bombshell in her own right) mentioning that Stella was into metal. Someone even drew her wearing a Mastodon shirt.
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>>151039312
Leave her to me
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Think lines on the spooky Halloween Loona are done now, hope I'll be able to finish the colors tomorrow night.
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>>151039282
>My man.
Yes?
>>151039265
How sexist of her to make a woman a plot device.
I do find Millie adorable.
>>151039312
>If Bee asked you to take her on a tour of restaurants across Earth, where would you take her? She's buying.
Local restaurants
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>>151039312
>anything she eats liquefies into lava for the lamp, giving her no issues aside from the odd belch once in a while
Well, that's no fun.

We'd definitely visit some European and Southeast Asian countries, though, for a nice mix of rustic and exotic. Italy is especially near and dear to my heart.
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>>151039282
>Bee admits she finds Satan really hot despite him being like a brother to her
>Mammon casually trying to ask Leviathan out on a date during the trial
Is now the best time to mention that Lucifer from Paradise Lost fucks his daughter?
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>>151039055
Sorry I went off on you.
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>>151039353
Looking good, man. And thank you for remembering that tits are attached to the armpit. A lot of artists forget that detail, and it pisses me off to no end.

Also, I concur with your previous post about the Halloween merch being lackluster this year. But hey, at least they knocked it out of the park on Valentine's Day, right?
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>>151039002
This show is awful and I'm so glad I gave up on it.
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>>151039353
That manic expression just turns me on more. Very nice.
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>>151039368
That's a nice Bee drawing.
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>>151039330
Nice
>Someone even drew her wearing a Mastodon shirt.
Don't know much about them, I can recommend other metal bands that are better. I figured Stella would be into power metal or blues metal but I'm not opposed to other options.
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>>151039392
You’re okay
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>>151039368
Any Italian dishes in particular come to mind?
>she wants to try hot wings
>goads you into getting the hottest wings possible
>teases you for being a bitch when you can't handle it
>you're red and about to pass out, meanwhile she hasn't even broken a sweat
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>>151039399
The Valentines stuff was nice! The Loona made me cave and finally get something. When I can get a bigger desk, I want to use it as a mousepad. I also got the same design as a poster, so I'm still "keeping" the art.
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>>151039416
>Stella is one of those metal elitists who refuses to listen to anything past the 90's

>>151039426
Brodetto, calcioni marchigiani, maritozzo... actual pizza.
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>>151039002
Stella's writing is trash but let's be real, she was a total cunt beforehand to Stolas. They wrote that to justify his infidelity of course but it's still canon. She wasn't merely cold or unloving either (easy to imagine Stolas was likewise to her) but outright cruel and demeaning, even in public. Her attempts to kill him also have no relation to his involvement in lending the grimoire to Blitz and are solely about removing someone she hates from her life and usurping his estate for her own benefit. She displays no care towards her own daughter, is fine with lying, generally has zero redeeming traits as well as little to no justification for her bad ones. You're confusing the potential utility of her actions for general human happiness with her own personal moral character. Kant would be disappointed.
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>>151039474
>Stella is one of those metal elitists who refuses to listen to anything past the 90'
Good taste, though I'm don't call myself a metalhead, I'd call myself a blues rocker if anything. The stuff I mostly listen to is pre-90s there is some good nineties metal.
WASP Kill Fuck Die is an amazing industrial metal album, Danzig II Lucifuge is a blues metal masterpiece (my third favorite album in fact), King Diamond's The Spider's Lullabye is his second best album, Motorhead's Sacrifice is quite great.
I think Stella might prefer Motorhead, not sure how'd she feel about black metal though.
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>>151039564
>not sure how'd she feel about black metal though.
As long as it's grim and frostbitten and sounds like it was recorded on a Fisher Price cassette tape, she'll listen to it.

>WASP
They made an industrial metal album? I guess I'm not surprised, since a lot of these heavy / thrash metal bands sort of 'lost their way' during the 90's, before returning to their roots.

Do you listen to Godflesh or Skinny Puppy, perchance?
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>>151039607
>As long as it's grim and frostbitten and sounds like it was recorded on a Fisher Price cassette tape, she'll listen to it.
Fine taste
>They made an industrial metal album? I guess I'm not surprised, since a lot of these heavy / thrash metal bands sort of 'lost their way' during the 90's, before returning to their roots.
Yeah, it's my favorite album of theirs despite me not being a huge fan of industrial metal.
https://youtu.be/L-V5e6H--eo
>Do you listen to Godflesh or Skinny Puppy, perchance?
Never heard of either of them.
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>>151039648
Listened to the title track of K.F.D. It wasn't bad, but I prefer my industrial to be a touch nastier, like so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbKD2FY9FjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jASivSllA3o
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>>151039353
Ah whoops, her fingers are goofed up.
Oh well, easy enough fix.
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>>151039736
Out of the two I think Predominance was better, It was okay but still not my mug of coffee when it comes to metal. Industrial metal is still a hit or miss genre for me, I prefer a bluesy kind of metal.
Like these for example
https://youtu.be/tLFfhraRKXY
https://youtu.be/OhcF2lqvksg
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I like the idea from a previous thread with a meta version of Anon that's some kind of weird homunculus with a connection to a higher dimensional hivemind, not a sinner but definitely not a regular human when you look closer.
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>>151039540
Your argument falls apart because you can recognize her writing as garbage in the first place. Good writing would make Stella's actions far more menacing and nefarious instead of the downright stupidity she chooses to follow instead. If she wanted stolas dead it would be far easier to just stab him in his sleep than it would be to inact whatever plan she actually did. We've never even seen her and Octavia even interact properly. She's a non character.
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>>151039736
Man when you reflect on the sheer difference between the Greater Demons in Vivzieverse compared how they were depicted in old school demonology and occult shit its really hilarious. HB Belphagor is this really cute sleepy sheep demon that looks really nice and amazing to cuddle with. Probably probably smells like freshly cleaned pillows and lilacs to… and then there's 19th century demonology Belphagor, who is this old stereotypical looking demon man that's eternally constipated and shitting on the toilet.
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>>151039963
I'm shocked nobody's drawn a parody of that pic yet using the cute and fluffy Bel.
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>>151039985
Im shocked nobody has drawn it for fetishistic reasons. You'd be (not) suprised how many dudes have a thing for women on the shiter, even if they arent actually shitting, usually while having a smoke to.
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>>151039847
>Your argument falls apart because you can recognize her writing as garbage in the first place.
No because I'm not arguing if she's a well-written character, just that it's clear why she's a "bad guy". She has tons of shitty traits and appealing to any potential good outcomes would follow from her actions is pointless since she only has very selfish reasons as motivation. She doesn't even have the competency-coolness factor going for her the way villains like Anton Chigurh or Dark Knight Joker do.
>Good writing would make Stella's actions far more menacing and nefarious instead of the downright stupidity she chooses to follow instead.
True but irrelevant. Stella is not a well-executed antagonist, but she is an antagonist, and though her characterization is abysmally shallow it is still consistent with that of a villainous person.
>If she wanted stolas dead it would be far easier to just stab him in his sleep than it would be to inact whatever plan she actually did.
Disagreed. It makes perfect sense Stella would want some degree of separation between herself and whatever kills Stolas, both for the sake of throwing off suspicion on herself (it surely can't be legal for a Goetia to kill their spouse unprompted) and also because she's totally spoiled and sheltered and would see such a thing as "dirty work" beneath her.
>We've never even seen her and Octavia even interact properly.
Yes it's quite pathetic how their first actual interaction, period, was in Mastermind. Matter of fact, all the major Goetia characters suck in my opinion as far as character writing goes. Andrealphus is the least bad, I think.
>She's a non character.
Yes Viv has a special weak spot for writing women. Verosika is the best she gets in HB, and even that's overshadowed by most other male characters.
>pic not related
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>>151039416
>I figured Stella would be into power metal
I bet she's into USPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UazArvSY1Ts&list=PLHTo__bpnlYUSRstZrIMgdpEcpDy1jiZR&index=3
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>>151039963
>Helluva Boss Belphagor: Zzzzzzzzzz *cute sleepy sheep girl noises*
>Biblical Belphagor: *The most unholy noises and grunts of pain you can imagine coming from the infernal restroom*
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>>151040009
Let's not summon that monkeys paw.
>>151040068
I imagine her liking Yngwie Malmsteen, I forgot to mention she'd also like Neo-classical metal. Though I think that would be more of Stolas' taste(if he has any)
https://youtu.be/zMr3pI6V_4o
You'd think she would secretly like Stryper or would that be Mayberry's lane.
https://youtu.be/sG0zAn0dL2I
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Ummm, stella bros...?
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Anyone else here who thinks that if they were thrown into vivzie hell the constant swearing would grate on them after a while?
Personally, i like to think of myself as a civilized, erudite individual and these unending vulgarities would get tiresome very quickly
If i was stolas' apprentice, i think id start magically strangling people for swearing in my presence as soon as i got the ability to do so
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>>151039312
>summon bee
>she asks you to show her all the great human foods
>you become good friends after
win/win honestly, sure she eats like a bit of a slob but she eats everything and you can treat it like a date
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>>151042326
>Introduce bee to "genuine" indian food, as a joke
>She has half a mind to go back to her racist ways and kill you on the spot
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>>151039269
In that case, maybe I can draw Stella like that at some point this week?

Its been months since I've drawn anything, I need an excuse to be silly.
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this is loona's future husband
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>>151042962
Hard to believe Anon did all the VA work for the Lego City ads.
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>>151042962
Anon if he wasn’t a complete and utter jobber
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>>151039002
Because she's a meanie and has a bitchy attitude. That's the only way Vivzie knows how to write bad guys. Since her characters are already morally horrible people. So she expects that we like the characters so much that we just give a blind eye to all the terrible things they do. And hate the villains just for acting like "Karens".
Wich honestly I wouldn't have a problem with if she was writing a pure absurd comedy. But she expects us to feel bad for characters thatwouldn't hesitate on killing children. There's nothing Stella has done that's worst than anything we've seen Blitzo or Millie do.
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MOMMY
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>>151045081
Oh hey is that out already?
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>>151045238
Came out last night. Still haven't found links to watch the episodes, though.
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>>151045284
Ehh I might wait for someone to post the cliff notes. Hazbin season 1 was kinda mediocre.
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>>151039002
> why is Stella the bad guy for trying to kill someone who is allowing people to commit serial murders

Because if you kill a killer the amount of killers remains the same, anon!
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>>151039002
Because she is a w*man.
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>>151044829
bitties
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>>151045501
True... and judging from what I've already seen, Vivzie has learned absolutely nothing from S1. At this rate, I only watch it because it's not a boring slog like much of HB S2, and... the babes.
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>>151046025
Call some call Turok to hunt this dinobitch?
Jesus, what an annoying nothing burger character
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Reminder that Blitzo was down for killing Children. He is not a goodguy, Blitzo is a badguy.
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>>151046025
What a sexy character.
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>>151046215
Turok's too busy being a dead franchise.
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>>151039002
Because she was failing her wifely duties to provide the buttsex her husband required.
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>>151042962
>”Anon, I need you to take this seriously.”
“Loona…”
>”Not that seriously!”
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>>151045838
That's a skill issue then. If you raise your K:D ratio and kill more killers, the number of killers goes down.
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>>151045284
looks like stella has some serious competition now
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>>151046681
It's highlander rules. If you kill a killer you absorb every kill they've ever made.
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>>151046681
Often when you kill a killer you create a new killer to take revenge on you. The number of killers actually goes up.
See: Iraq War.
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>>151039002
crazy that this is how the show ended
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>>151039042
See, you're partially right but here's what no one gets. It's not politically motivated. It's standard fujoshi writing.
Remember that in fujo writing, the more effeminate man is a stand-in self-insert for a woman. Because of this, there is a stand-in for the "shitty boyfriend/husband/fiance" character portrayed in the form of a judgmental bitchy woman.
This is objectively what Stella is. She exists to be a bitch who "doesn't deserve him" and make the affair more thrilling with an adultery element.
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>>151039042
>GAYS ARE BAD AND WILL ALL GO TO HELL
>NOOO HOW DARE YOU PUT GAYS IN YOUR CARTOON ABOUT HELL
>YOU'RE TRYING TO DEMONIZE REGULAR RELATIONSHIPS WITH YOUR DEPICTION OF GAYS AS LITERAL DEMONS
The gays should be the ones getting upset.
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stolas should have been a woman
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>>151047483
To be fair, the gays are in heaven too in this show. In Vivzieverse like 80% of people are gay for some reason.
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>>151047920
she would be too powerful
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>>151047937
Name a single gay character in heaven.
I don't doubt there are some, but I can't think of any. Heaven hasn't been explored much.
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>>151047920
I thought Stolas might be a woman at first. Until Blitzo said "sorry I fucked your husband".
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My mom once said to me that demons are literally gay.
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>>151046662
heh
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>>151047994
Peter is EXTREMELY gay.
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>>151045081
>>151045284
Wait, I completely forgot it dropped today. I've got Prime Video because I'm a retard and still forgot. I'll probably check it out tonight just to see Speaker's full design and voice in motion. I've been hyped for her ever since the leaks.
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>>151048129
>I've got Prime Video because I'm a retard and still forgot.
Don't feel bad. I would've forgot too, if it wasn't being released a day before my 38th birthday. I feel so fucking ancient.

All the same, do let us know what you think of her. She's a stark contrast to Stella, and the design similarities do raise some questions as to the Ars Goetia and if they're indeed fallen angels, which I'm sure will TOTALLY be explored.
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>>151047920
That Fem!Stolas is reminding me of Gillian Anderson for some reason.
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>>151047920
What's a woman?
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>>151048820
>"Oh Anon! You make me feel like a young woman!~"
>Anon:
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>>151048258
I might just pirate the whole season, because Amazon's DRM bullshit won't even let me take screenshots. Still, I'll watch it on Prime Video too, since it's the fastest option I've got right now.
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>>151046614
Millsissies, not like this
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If there ever is a fortnite x HB collab, how many of you are getting the loona skin?
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>>151049269
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>>151049269
I don't play fortnite so no
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>>151049269
I only play fortnite with the boys so no
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>>151047937
More like 99%

The 1% is Lute
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>>151049193
What even counts as a "character" to these people? Why is a female character only valid if she’s exceptional? Millie's fine. She had a mostly normal childhood and doesn't carry the trauma most of the main cast does.
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>Anon sometimes pick up stella for fun
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im no longer a stella gooner...
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>>151049679
What the fuck kinda esl shit is that dialogue
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>>151049718
>@Alfonso_memes_inojosa
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>>151049718
>>151049740
Now I realize that the image was OCR‑translated. It was probably originally in Spanish.
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>>151049879
Here is the original
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>>151049677
Flip-flopping between personal, narrative, and conceptual complaints is a sign of blatant bullshitting. There's always ulterior motive.
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>>151047937
>for some reason
because the show is for a demographic that doesn't include you but somehow you still watch this shit.
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This guy hit the nail right on the head
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>>151049964
The translation is almost right, except for the third panel, which should read more like "That bastard! He will pay for this!" The rest is far too literal, which is why it comes across as ESLish.
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Anon, draw me like one of your French girls
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>>151050180
>Those hips
>That thigh gap
Would, even in that costume.
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>>151050180
What the fuck
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>>151049097
Man, DRM has to be one of the most Jewish things ever conceived.
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>>151039126
why do you need a role model? are you 3?
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>>151047920
Agent One is going to have to be extra careful
>>151049193
Poor Millie, she deserves better writing.
>>151045081
>>151045284
Gentlemen, I do not care for the speaker of god
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>>151039126
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>>151050521
Why do you need representation? Are you autistic?
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>>151050207
>>151050180

I cant tell if its a man or a woman in that costume....
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>>151050766
Considering the He/Him pin, likely it's a queer male or a troon.
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>>151050851
Could be wearing that as part of the costume...
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>>151050912
Possible, but you never know, especially at cons.
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>>151045284
Viv really likes her bird anthros
Featherchads we're eating good
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>>151045284
>>151051027
Pic related with anon, the speaker and stella
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>>151051054
anon would never
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>>151050180
>least horrifying fursuit
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>>151050851
>Could be a troon
>He/him
So it is a woman?
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>>151051054
I would never turn away from the lovely Stella. I'm slowly becoming a MayberryFag, Stellars I'm sorry.
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Work makes me miss basically whole threads constantly, I can’t keep up with you niggas
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>>151051497
>Anon is forced to wear an owl fursuit to infiltrate a goetian meeting
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>>151051497
Why aren't all fursuits more subdued like that instead of straight up mascot costumes?
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>>151050467
I can take screenshots on my PC if I disable hardware acceleration, but because my monitor is shit since I'm a poorfag, they'd only be 1600x900 instead of the HD shots I normally get with VLC.
>Man, DRM has to be one of the most Jewish things ever conceived.
I'm not sure about Bezos, but pic related.
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>>151050766
It would be difficult for someone who has undergone male puberty to have that hip bone structure.

>>151050851
>>151050912
>>151051011
>>151051506
Probably an FTM. Might be using a binder or might've had top surgery, since I don't see any breasts.
I still would.
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>>151052166
>I still would.
With or without the costume on?
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>>151052213
I could do without the mask, but I wouldn't really mind if it stayed on.
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>>151052166
>I still would
https://youtu.be/08EqQPIvHOU
>>151052149
>>151052221
Oy vey.
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>>151052302
No, Anon! Don’t hit me with the pan!
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>>151051717
>Something, something I want to fuck the bird
>Something, something I want to fuck the dog

There you go, a summary of every thread that ever was and ever will be.
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>>151052388
Knowing what we know now, how would you handle her if you were Anon?
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>>151052484
>I want to fuck the bird
Yes.
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>>151052516
Literally just kindness and emotional maturity.
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>>151050180
You guys really Blame Blitzo for wanting a piece of this?
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>>151052516
I haven't felt a strong emotion in years so I probably wouldn't even care
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>>151052516
Raging sex.
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>>151052759
>Leave me alone
You reek of soot-rat!
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>>151052590
>>151052484
>I want to fuck the bird
Wrong
i want to make sweet, passionate love to the bird
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>>151052826
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>Octavia, meet your new Step-Dad!
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>>151052516
Depends on her reaction when I tell her and if she knew I was the one she killed. If she didn't know and feels guilty... I can forgive her. Maybe slowly convince her and I.M.P. to change their line of work, but either way I'm not sure I'd work for them anymore. I'd still hang out with them though.
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>>151052826
I'd rather take Stella on outdoor trips, marry, handholding baby making, bake bread with our little bird and watch westerns.
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>>151039042
I think you're right about this but i still don't see what makes Stella bad, its like viv expect us to hate her just because we are supposed to like stollas when everything has been stollas fault.
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>>151047920
genuinely believe that ig stolas was a woman everyone on this board would love her. a nympho butt sex obsessed nerd who would be dedicated to her lover above all else? waaaaaay more appealing to the men.
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>>151052516
if she knows and is genuinly remorseful about it, then yea I would forgive her
Personally I like to think of anon's time in hell as a test. He got fucked over at the worng time after he backstabed Inco and this is his chance to prove himself
who knows, he might even get redeamed and by extention loona might assend to heaven with him if he plays his cards right.
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>>151053797
>he backstabed Inco
betting against him is being a dick but I don't know if it's really a backstab
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>>151053984
I feel like Anon had the capability of trying to talk Inco out of a fight that mind you, Anon 100% knew he was going to lose because he can read people that well. Instead, he chose to profit off of him.
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>>151052516
I haven't caught up with HILTLH(H) yet, and I've been trying to avoid spoilers, so I can't really answer that question. I do plan to catch up, though. And finally draw Valerie like I promised months ago, because I don't want to be the kind of person who breaks their word even if I already sort of did.
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>>151054274
Based
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>>151054274
Valerie art would be cool.
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>>151045081
Literally a mother
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So, I've watched the first two episodes of HH S2, and Lute refers to Lucifer as the "first fallen angel." I take that as explicit confirmation that others exist. We also get confirmation that Dominions and Virtues are angel types, though the latter we already sort of knew.
Also, I can get HD screenshots now. Pic related. Argh.

>>151055195
Hers and Sera's song is so good.
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>>151055333
>We also get confirmation that Dominions and Virtues are angel types
Do we ever see them?
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>>151055195
>that ominous egg
Uh oh.
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>>151055375
Yep
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>>151055375
Egg
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>>151055195
Huh this is a weird crack ship. Doesn't even make sense when Stolas is 35
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>>151055405
>Paimon hoping this one won't be a fag like all others
>hfw it's another fag
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>>151039540
>Stella's writing is trash but let's be real, she was a total cunt beforehand to Stolas. They wrote that to justify his infidelity of course but it's still canon. She wasn't merely cold or unloving either (easy to imagine Stolas was likewise to her) but outright cruel and demeaning, even in public.
I really hate how everyone idea of fixing her writing is just making her actions more justified or making her less of a cunt.
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>>151055427
While cute, I still think Stolas' mother is another fallen Angel, like I believe Paimon is.
>>151055430
>For joining Lucifer's coup against God, he is cursed with every male child he fathers is homosexual.
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>>151055405
What if...
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>>151055430
If I were Paimon I'd begin to wonder if there was something wrong with my balls.
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>>151055374
We see different types of angels in the Speaker's room. I couldn't quite tell which ones were the Dominions and which were the Virtues, because they usually speak out of frame, like in this wide shot.
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>>151055562
I probably should just post these on the Hazbin thread.
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>>151055645
The fuck are those things?
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>>151055683
Some type of angels. Vassago's grandpa on the left?
Heaven has so many furries, though, like 90% of its population.
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>>151055722
It's easy to see where the idea Hazbin was supposed to be heaven/hell planets with freaky niggas like that.
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>>151055722
They remind me vaguely of Skeksis from the Dark Crystal.
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Lucifer's room. Look who's in the photos.
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>>151055781
I see my two-headed sushi queen!
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>>151055781
Taking advantage of that merger.
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>>151039353
>POV: Your hellhound girlfriend caught incurable BPD (She accidentally wore a pair of Kuromi pajama bottoms) and you said "Yes" when she asked to watch one more episode of TV (you were supposed to say "can we write poetry about each other")
I'll put this up on Pixiv and E6 some time tomorrow, after doing a once-over and making sure there's no stray pixels. Here's the goods. Clean version https://files.catbox.moe/idplhd.png
And bloody version (the intended, but I know some people hate blood) https://files.catbox.moe/2nvtjb.png
Happy Halloween!
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>>151056408
Very kino, nicely done. Hope you have a happy halloween.
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>>151056447
Thanks! A friend of mine has a projector, and I'm 99% sure he's never seen Monster House before. I want to rewatch it, think it'll be fun.
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>>151056408
I still can't get over how good that titty looks. One can easily visualize the jiggle from her movement. Again, excellent work. Boob gravity is such a bitch to nail, but you managed.
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>>151056408
>>151056408
Fantastic work dude, love both versions. This question will make me look like an ultravirgin, but what are those two lines coming from her nipple?
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>>151056522
Nipple piercing
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>>151056522
It's just a stylized way to draw line weight. But yeah, probably should tweak it so it isn't so distracting
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>>151056408
Exceptionally based
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>>151056466
>projector
Neato. Sounds fun.
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Is there more art of ring octavia as well?
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Loona sleeping with Anon and taking a picture of his flameless head
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>>151058592
>damn, he's so ugly without the flames
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>>151058615
Says the hellhound that comes into work with her crotch’s fur burnt off
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>>151055477
God is damn based if this is the punishment that he inflicted into Paimon
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>>151039002
Keyboard-commies see classism as a far greater crime than mass-murder. Shocking, I know.
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Hello, is this thread dead?
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>>151059632
Middle of the week dude
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>>151039002
You dumbass, it's only murder when a hell denizen kills someone VASTLY social superior.
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>>151058779
God can be scary.
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>>151060500
Indeed
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>>151055781
> Me, last night
> Wrote a bunch of Lucyfer greens about sex in the duck pile
> He has an actual duck pile and I had no idea
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>what if octavia and loona were actual sisters
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>>151039002
She's only doing it because he made her look bad. No royals care about nobody humans getting killed. If he fucked a guy royal in a palace she wouldn't have cared the same.
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>>151039002
Stella and Stolas should have both been girls cause it would be hot.
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>>151061861
make them all female, at that point
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>>151061861
>>151062011
>"Are you sure this will get people to watch our gay quirky demon show?"

>"Watch?"
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>>151062309
I'm disappointed the artist didn't draw Stella's boobs resting on Octavia's head.
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>>151062335
don't be weird
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>>151039002
murder of mortal human beings has very little moral weight in the hellaverse because they're seemingly guaranteed to come back as an immortal demon/angel anyway
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>>151063129
I wonder if hell ever resembled something like a dark fantasy or something at some point a thousand or so years ago before technology really kicked off or if they were always advanced. Heaven for example seems to use a lot of sci-fi aesthetics for example.
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>>151063204
Silence, gypsy. Or I'll punish you by forcing you to actually watch the show.
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>>151060500
Don't care, that's mega based to fight back that way against ungrateful and sinful bastards like Paimon, Praise the Lord Almighty, AMEN
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>>151060500
I mean if you think about it, God is the OG eldritch diety. Its just that instead of being an uncaring god that creates thing by accident due to his sheer power but is instead hypfixated and intentional with his creations
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>>151063269
>gypsy
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To the pleasure of absolutely no one, My Saving Grace chapter 3 is out. Please tell me if I fucked up anywhere. I'm really proud of the end part.

https://archiveofourownDOTorg/works/70148341/chapters/191308656
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>>151061861
>That anatomy
Not even AI slop is this bad.
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>>151039002
They're in Hell, dude...

Sin and wicked ways rule the roost.
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>>151063798
They're birds, they're meant to be skinny.
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>>151063798
>>151063809
Truuh! look at this trash!, I bet Ai slop would have been better!
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>>151063450

In the original Greek and Hebrew God is a lot stranger and more inhuman. For example a lot of the people God strikes the verb form implies that its a passive unintentional effect and that God won't kill you if you see him, seeing him will instantly kill you.

Jesus in Mark is also really odd and kind of unsettling if mostly benevolent. There is no birth story and he acts like a mixture of MIKE and the Giant from Twin Peaks. It ends with the three women who he loved seeing a 'man/angel' who may or may not be Jesus and leaving in shock.
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>>151063870
... Why did you reply to that second guy there? Do you need meds?
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>>151063798
The artist literally copy and pasted their bodies too, which is just lazy as fuck.

>>151063531
I skimmed through it, as I don't have the time at present for in-depth reading. However, I couldn't help but notice that you're avoiding the word 'said,' which is immensely distracting to the point it disrupts the flow.
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>>151062011
Would it be better if the male members of the family were turned female or if their species was just all female to begin with but can also still get dicked?
>>151062238
Unironically yes.
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>>151063951
Quit being weird.
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>>151063900
Is it really that distracting? I blame my writer friend for telling me to use actions instead of saying ‘said’. He’s always been a little up his own ass about it.
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>>151063849
It’s not about that. Their bodies look off, their boobs and butts look like cheap implants, and the tails just stick out of their spines. I get that it was meant to emphasize the asses, but it only looks worse because the tails are placed way too high.

>>151063900
>The artist literally copy and pasted their bodies too
I only noticed after you pointed it out, but it's true. Kek.
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>>151064056
Yeah the boobs and butts are way too big for their bodies
>tails
Oh shit you're right, wtf. The more I look the worse it gets.
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>>151063987
Well, your 'writer friend' is wrong. Using said makes it so the dialogue doesn't stand out in any way; to wit, it doesn't jump out at the reader and break their immersion. It's like... being carried downstream, only to collide with a fucking rock.

Likewise, you don't want to overuse said, nor is it appropriate for all dialogue (obviously.) So mix up it every now and then. Nor do you want to exclude actions; though by no means should they take the place of simple statements.
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>>151064104
I’ll have to keep that in mind—always trying to improve. Thanks for giving your criticism fren.
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>>151064139
You're welcome. And I'll try to give you feedback as to the story proper, later this evening.
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>>151063531
>YOU KNOW THEY SAY THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL
>BUT ANON'S A MAGICAL FREAK, AND HE'S NOT NORMAL
>SO YOU GOT A 25% AT BEST AT BEAT HIM
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>>151064190
>human levy is a fatfag and fish levy isn't
kek
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>>151063900
>However, I couldn't help but notice that you're avoiding the word 'said,' which is immensely distracting to the point it disrupts the flow.
Lots of authors do this because it’s exceptionally repetitive to have every dialogue end with “X said”.
In fact, I looked through a couple novels I have. The more modern ones typically don’t have “said” being used for each dialogue.
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>>151064617
Well, for starters, I never claimed it should be used for every dialogue. But at the same time, it shouldn't avoided altogether. There needs to be a nice compromise.
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>>151063250
Probably during post-ressurrection of Jesus and up to the 16th century. Considering Vivzie Hell is basically modern LA but red, that would imply some form of progress being made over the years as sinners and hellborn bring in new innovations to match those found in the mortal realm. In addition to the various magical things like spells, potions and imbued items.
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>>151064794
I feel like Post-Jesus and the Rise of Christanity, the leaders of Hell had to "lock in" for a good while because unlike Judaism which was a pretty niche religion focused in the Levant, Christanity spread everywhere like wildfire.
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>>151039077
oh hey someone saved it, i also made an angry version
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>>151062309
>Happy Stella
Best Stella.
>>151064201
>Scott Steiner posting in HB Threads
Superb, Anon
>>151065466
>When Anon runs out of nuggets to share.
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what are some thematic vivzie crossovers?
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>>151052516
>"ta-da"
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>>151063531
wake up, peak just dropped (finally)
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>>151063951
Hips
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>>151066382
octavia should be sticc, not thicc
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>>151066268
She looks cute in her own bizzare way like this. Now how the Dante's Inferno videogame depicted the Three Headed Hellhound Cerebus in the ring of Gluttony has gotta be one of the most horrific and unique depictions of ever. Now THAT is something i'd be scared by
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this guy draws some pretty good solas, too bad most of his stuff is gay shit
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>>151065994
God, she's radiant...
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>>151066538
>too bad most of his stuff is gay shit.
Many such cases of such ludicrousy.
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>>151066411
She's mostly sticc but has hips like her mom.
>>151067457
>She sends photos like this to Agent One, everyday.
>He never responds.
>She loves it when he plays hard to get.
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>>151067631

Does Solas ever dress up as Two? Anyone remember the green where Solas is Two?
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>>151067837
Most she would do is dress in a suit, she hates Two out of jealousy.
>spoiler
Yeah, I wrote a green like that, so did another Anon.
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>>151068140
Good old Paimom
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>>151068140
>desperately bumping the thread instead of letting it die with dignity
Just go to bed, you European mutt.
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>>151068171
shes such a bad bitch though
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>>151068196
She's adorable.
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>>151064794
That era would be cool to see, shame we never will.
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>>151065222
Hell in that era would likely be on the full defensive, with judaism they were on even grounds but after the death and resurrection of Jesus, Hell was put back onto the back foot and has been there ever since. At most you'd get some skirmishes happening so often, they'd just be in a cold war with the sins in a cold war with each other.
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Imagine if Stella assigned you your own imp servants. What would they be like?
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>>151069340
A wrath Imp
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>>151066119
I don't know if something like it exists for real, but for shits and giggles I thought about how crossing that universe with Trench Crusade might look.
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>>151069387
She looks like Dr. Girlfriend or that mom from Bob's Burgers.
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>>151069504
I do know what you're talking about, I do not see it, Anon.
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>>151069553
It's the hair
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>>151069616
I think they're just stuck in your head, Anon. I don't see the resemblance.
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>>151070250
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>>151063870
Awww yeaaah
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>>151070832
I take it back!, that looks like puke! Someone spit on blender!
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>>151070988
NTA but I have this.
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>>151071025
Much better!
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>>151071047
I also made more of these.
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>>151071086
Do one for Bee.
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>>151071109
Sure, why not, have any other characters I should do?
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>>151071201
lute
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>>151071086
NEED PETPLAY WITH STELLA
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>>151071213
Sure, post-battle sex Lute.
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>>151071321
BASED
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>>151071307
During the honeymoon, Anon.
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>>151071338
Anymore suggestions, Anon? These are fun to do.
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>>151071351
>Stella drags you into her lap and puts a collar with a heart tag on you
>strokes your head while nibbling on your ear with her beak
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>>151071376
Loona? Should take just a sec to combine with >>151056408
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>>151071474
Of course, Looner
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>>151056408
>Clean version
>look inside
>naughty
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>>151063798
AI slop would give even bigger proportions
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>>151071578
Thanks!
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I wish there were more interactions between these two, their relationship is completely glossed over in favor of gay imp sex
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Kind, caring, heavenly bird mommy...
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>>151053585
You're right but not for the reason you think. it's because the entire reason Stolas is hated is because he's a miserable faggot of his own accord. People have pointed it out before, but he has, defacto, all the power.

Viv tried to transplant the inherently feminine narrative of a trapped noble held in bondage without the power to be with their lover legitimately to a fag in a society where said fag can shuffle stars around and has all the power and influence and nobody cares that he's a fag, and his bitchy wife has nothing he doesn't allow her to have essentially other than whatever bones her brother hypothetically might throw her.

The result is the narrative doesn't fucking work. The reason that narrative is seen as moral and sympathetic is because it's someone being harmed who is powerless to stop it or do anything, and who had no say in their relationship to begin with, so cheating isn't a betrayal because of the inherently lack of loyalty to begin with.

But Stolas could just kill Stella on live TV while choking on Blitzo's dick and odds are nobody other than his daughter or Andrealphus would give a fuck unless he made it clear it was because he was being a gay lil bitch who was ashamed of it. And even Andrealphus would only care if he thought he got something out of it. So the entire narrative collapses because it means that all his woe is me faggotry is self inflicted, he's the man in the relationship with the important family name and position of power and authority while Stella is nothing, and she only managed to fuck him over a little bit because he let her and even that just amounted to being put on time out for what is ultimately a tiny amount of time by their standards.
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>>151073171
>Tl;dr: Misandry and homophobia.
Then you get mad about being called a tradcon boomer. It's a perfect example of horseshoe theory in action: tradcons and feminists both end up in the same place, with zero accountability for women.
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>>151073171
Yeah, this.
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>>151073964
Dude if you wanna go suck dick then go suck dick. No one cares. Not giving you any (you)s beyond this.
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>>151074553
Why's she getting forced as Stolas' mom when it makes absolutely zero sense?
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>>151074553
>already lewd art of Speaker and Stella popping up
Excellent
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>>151072930
You might be disappointed by what's likely going to happen instead of what should happen.
>>151073171
It would have made a lot more sense if both Stolas and Stella were victims of a failed marriage, the dynamic that's put forward doesn't work. Switch the sexes and it makes sense, an underdog sorceress being abused by her husband with all the political power.
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>>151072930
>>151075035

If the show was written intelligently she probably wouldn't be a very good mom. She's not intentionally abusive or neglectful and wants what's best for Octavia but her idea of what's 'best' is insanely warped and flawed. She'd put Octavia through the same things her brother and parents put her through except without the malice or understanding why and legit think she was helping her.
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Is My Saving Grace now part of a fic trifecta (implying updates are more consistent)? I liked the newest chapter.
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>>151074637
I would preffer for her to be the grandma
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>>151075068
A strict but caring mom does fit Stella well, over the years as the marriage with Stolas becomes worse both she and Stolas become a bit neglectful to Octavia. Not out of malice towards Octavia but because she would remind Stolas and Stella of their failed marriage while at the same time they'd see her as the only thing holding the family together until Stolas has an affair with Blitzo.
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Happy Halloween! Credit to @Lorificarts on Twitter
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>>151075437
Eyyy, a nice addition.
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>>151075437
Very nice, saved.
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>>151075167
>my saving grace chapter 3
ehh, i dont know, cant put my finger on it, but the flow just seems off, the characters dont really act the way they should, i guess it feels like the events bend themselves to make the plot work
like, for example, loona attacking anon, why would she do that?
>he stole the book
how would she know that?
>its on the news
loona doesnt strike me as the kind who watches the news
and then the interaction with shitzo and stolas, it just felt off
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Happy Halloween, Looners
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>>151075644
Author here, the more I look at the story the more I realize events happen because the plot demands it. I have an idea for what I want but it feels like it’s strung together piss poorly. My greatest weakness has always been plot structure, and I have no idea how to improve upon it.
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>>151074373
Thank you and all other anons for proving my point. You'll always take the side of a woman over any man at this point.
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>>151076365
>Tie up shitzo, a lavaskunk.
>He goes insane as you force him to watch as you.
>Give Loona pets, scratches, handholding and bridal carry.
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>>151076756
at some point he's gonna have to put up with the relationship
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>>151047045
well then, surely, killing killers would be fine then as long as you kill yourself afterwards
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>>151076756
>lavaskunk
Damn we keep unlocking new slurs each day.
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>>151077314
And many more to come.
>>151077479
I think Cain should look more human, but still this is nicely done.
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I like the idea of Cain is dating leviathan
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>>151075167
>pic
heres a better version
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>>151077710
Why did you delete and repost that lol?
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>>151077710
I did a very short green on them and I noticed Anons going along with it, it is indeed a neat idea. He balances Leviathan's self-obstinate and she in turn unwinds his wrath.
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>>151077787
I forgot the text
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>>151077822
Imagine if you made one head drink coke and the other eat mentos.
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>>151078188
you die if you do that
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>>151078404
I think I know who would do that but I rather no say who, lest we summon them. Knocking on wood just in case.
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>>151077710
This and Cain x Belphegor are the only Cain ships that matter
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>>151042962
I look like this
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HALLOWEEN with BEE
BEE handing out CANDY to trick-or-treaters... At YOUR house...
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Some guy made a youtube vid contrasting Helluva Boss hell from actual hell. Wonder why.
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>>151039002
Her only crime was being forced into an arranged marriage with a gay man who can't even do the bare minimum of spending a day with his daughter without trying to fuck an imp along the way (and then offers to be executed on live television for said imp while his daughter is watching). Justice for Stella
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>>151079733
I didn't want nor expected a full 1-1 depiction of hell in HB or HH, some dark undertones would have been nice. If not, well it still would have been fine if the writing was decent at least, it just sadly isn't.
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>>151079733
How do you even compare it to something that's barely even described?
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>>151079960
>One ends up in a situation where he's surrounded by Imp!Two, Sinner!Two and human Two
>all of which are amorous for him and are okay with sharing because they're all the same person

Does he enjoy it, does his spaghetti spill, or does he try and escape?
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>>151080549
Either he spills his spaghetti or he tries to escape believing this is some kind of trap.
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>>151080676
>Either he spills his spaghetti or he tries to escape believing this is some kind of trap.

>One runs
>Sinner!Two pounces
>high impact sexual violence
>wakes up in a cuddle pile with all their asses grinding against him
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>>151080549
Slaps them all together into one with hebrew magic.
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>>151080738
>One manages to escape because all three started fighting amongst one another.
>They all wanted first dibs, but they don't like to share.
>Then, One bumps into her while making his escape.
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I want imp servants. Imagine having your own jester and you can just make him juggle or spin plates whenever you're bored.
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>>151081087
I want an imp harem.
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>harem
No thank you, I only have a heart for one Imp an one Imp alone.
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>>151081228
Imps are for laughing at, not for fucking.
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>>151081273
There's all sorts of lonely imp girls you can make a wife out of.
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>>151081273
NTA but speak for yourself.
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>>151079890
>Her only crime was being forced into an arranged marriage with a gay man

Stolas was forced into it too and he did everything he could to make it work, he didn't abuse her at every opportunity.
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>>151081520
>Stolas was forced into it too and he did everything he could to make it work
except that he didnt
apathy might work for a man, but when it comes to women, violence is preferable to it
if he had put her in her place instead of letting her walk all over him then maybe she wouldnt have been as insufferable
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>>151080192
>>151079960
What I’m getting from it is that he wants to show what specifically HB and HH is bastardizing that might lead others astray and teach what it really means to sin against God and trust IRL demons. Personally, I’m learning a lot about demonology and why I need Christ as a sinner too.

I’d link but I have PTSD from the last time that happened.
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>>151081714
>except that he didnt

Bitch, we only saw a jump cut from Stolas singing to Octavia to Stella screaming at Stolas, and there's like a decade and a half between those scenes. A marriage doesn't become that miserable overnight. Stolas said in The Circus that he tried to make Stella happy, and she's made it clear in multiple episodes that her primary goal is making him suffer. I'm not going to say that Stolas is innocent, I'll openly admit that he fucked up and could've done a lot better, but he's very clearly the lesser of two evils and I don't know what else you need to see that.
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>>151081396
NTA but what about Willow/FemWally or Scarlet/FemCrimson? Millie is cute but I don't like the idea of cucking Moxxie. I still made this for you Millie enjoyer(s).
>>151081714
Considering Stolas is supposedly a masochist, I'm surprised he didn't stay with her.
>>151081817
A fair point but considering the people who are actual unironic fans, I'm not worried about that, most of them are likely not even spiritual let alone Christian.
>I’d link but I have PTSD from the last time that happened.
You alright, Anon?
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>>151082037
Yeah, I would Willow or Scarlet.
Though uh, I don't think Moxxie (or Moxxine) would approve of their mother dating a mortal.
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>>151081915
>Stolas said in The Circus that he tried to make Stella happy
>stolas said
you gonna take that faggot who thinks trading personal favors for sex is a good way to build a relationship at his word?
women can feel when they arent loved, they can feel when they are hated, but what they cannot stand is indifference
stolas was completely and utterly indifferent to stella, he did what he could to ”placate” her, but he couldnt have given any less of a shit whether she lived or died
imagine being tied to whats essentially a stranger for years who remains a stranger throughout it all, no wonder she is as vindictive as she is
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>>151081714
>if he had raped her into submission stella wouldnt be such a bitch

my brother in christ, stolas is a faggy nerd who barely went outside. he literally had to disassociate during sex to even tolerate being intimate with his wife. he only stayed with her to feed the lie that octavia had a normal life and parents because he knew the kind of of mental problems that can cause (without realizing he was causing a whole different set of problems because he is very naive). I understand you wish you could use him to self-insert into your stella sex fantasies but it was clear from the start that stolas craves cock and is not the proper avatar for that. striker probably is though. he could fuck the racism out of stella.

stolas has a different issue entirely which is that he doesnt like confrontation and would prefer comfortable lies to the truth even if it literally makes his and others' lives objectively worse. and then, he is so porn brained/Romcom obsessed his ideas of expressing his genuine feelings and dealing with his problems are all kinds of delusional and impractical.
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>>151082037
https://youtu DOT be/301p36z4Fhs
I suppose I am.

That’s the beauty of witnessing, you can reach out to even the most diehard of tard fans and help them to turn their lives around by speaking simple truths. Who knows how effective this really is. Not that this video is anything special
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>>if he had raped her into submission stella wouldnt be such a bitch
i never mentioned sex
what i mean is that he should have kicked her ass until she got the memo of whos in charge
its not that he didnt have sex with her, its that he let her walk all over him
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>>151073171
>nobody cares that hes a fag

andrealphus is a gay republican in the hellaverse and makes a big point of the fact that it is less that he is gay, and more so that he is into a lower class dude and betraying his very duty to his family - being a dutiful husband and making kids. he couldn't do either of those things well for obvious reasons. also obviously the goetia dont take well to murdering each other- its why andy flips out so bad when he finds out stella tried having him killed for funsies. Satan literally calls him a disgrace in front of the entire court - most of whom agree with him - for his debauchery and irresponsibility.

the only thing youre correct about is that a lot of stolas' problems are of his own making, and informed by the very weird way he was brought up which causes him to do very stupid and irresponsible things.
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>>151082154
What I don't get is that they were both forced into the marriage, but only one of them is openly malicious and abusive even before the infidelity that caused their divorce, and yet you think that the abusive partner is supposed to be the sympathetic one, and the victim of the abuse is solely responsible for the marriage failing. And they just keep making it clearer and clearer that even if Stolas is far from perfect, Stella is much worse than him, AND YOU'RE STILL FUCKING SIMPING FOR HER! Does Stella have to literally murder Octavia in front of Stolas for you to finally understand? Or would you convince yourself that it's somehow Stolas' fault?
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>>151082285
believe it or not beating the shit out of the mother of your child isn't a good look, to your kid or the whole of society. and the goetia care a lot about that stuff.
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>>151082200
I should’ve watched a little more before talking about it. He goes into detail more about real roman Catholicism and how HB ties to it which is understandable as compared to when he went into HH with general christianity. That’s two slightly different sets of witnessing.



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