So Rorschach was gay for Nite Owl, right?
Rorshach is much closer to a mammy caricature of the idiosyncratic asexual nerd, being retroactively rewritten as a hyperconservative tard who's repulsed by sex specifically because his abuser liked it instead of just, you know, not being into sex. That doesn't preclude him from having gay feelings, but he's certainly not gay in the way you're implying where he would want to pork Dan.
I wish I was on /co/ in 2009 when talking about this was common.
>>151041874Doesnt he die? Who cares?
>>151043581Why are you in a Watchmen thread when you clearly haven't read Watchmen?
>>151042502>sex specifically because his abuser liked it instead of just, you know, not being into sexTo be fair. It's common as hell for abuse victims go down either "hyper sexual" or "sex-averse".It's doesn't even have to be a sexual abuse they undergo either. It's an intimacy and validation thing. Sex is vulnerability, connection, and an established power dynamic between you and another person. Thus, people are either afraid of it because of the vulnerability or throw themselves into it since, in their eyes, it proves their value and allows them to feel some sense of power/control in some way shape or form.Rorschach is a pretty standard case of what a lot of child abuse victims actually look like. More than anything what he wants is to be able to view a framework of the world where the wicked always get what's coming to them, where he can just power through his trauma because good will win in the end and where he doesn't need people to be vulnerable around.He's likely gonna deny any sexual stirrings he may have straight or gay because he doesn't like being tied to someone like that.
Does anyone have any fanfiction recommendations?
>>151043563Same.
>>151044296Do you have any more pics?
>>151044983Of course! Although I lost a lot of the oldest Dan/Rorschach art I saved in the past.
I'll never get over how so many Asian artists in particular choose to go for Nite Owl's movie design.
>>151045330I don't know how kosher (/co/sher?) this is but I've been obsessed with ot3 fic with Laurie. That way Dan gets to kiss girls while solving crime.
>>151045385Most only watched the movie.
>>151045490For sure, but I'm pretty sure most of these also did read the comic, so it ends up being a matter of preference over a specific thing.
I jerked off to the shitty beat em up game so many times
>>151045608No, you didn't.
>>151045608Most of this game is an humiliation ritual of Rorschach being made fun of for being short.
>>151041874No. Nite Owl II was just an adrenaline junkie that could only get it up after breaking someone's legs.
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>>151041874Heard this take many times. But why? Just because they shook hands for too long? In the comic Nite Owl didn't give a shit about Chudchach.And Rorshach probably abused his female neighbor, maybe.
>>151045608I fucking loved that song that plays when Rorschach is ragingDon’t know why it just got my blood pumping to kill. Guess it worked as intended
>>151045564Movie Nite Owl is ripped but a little chubby while comic Nite Owl is obese. Obviously women prefer the former
>>151046076>Chudchach>not 'Rorschud'C'mon man, you gotta try harder than that.
>>151041874He’s definitely straight. I don’t think the strained friendship plot works if he felt any romance for him. Romance is irrational because of sexual attraction, friendship is purely appreciative of being there for someone.>>151046076It’s a fujo thing. He’s grumpy and sad and hates life but around Dan he’s nice and lets Dan be his voice of reason. So they conflate the only affection he has for anyone with love.This might sound strange but women usually like to project themselves through the ‘Rorschach’ in Yaoi stuff.
I just think it's funny ass fuck.
>>151045385The movie's Nite Owl is so good tho. I'll eventually read the comic, I already know it's gonna be amazing anyways and comic Nite Owl is very good too but in the movie he just looks so badass.I think my perfect design would be movie version with the comic's colour palette.
>>151041874He's not gay tho, wasn't he? I forgot it's been many many years since I watched and read the movie
>>151046743I think the graphic anal sex scene was a bit much.Oh wait, that was League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
>>151041874No. He was just a parasite and knew Niteowl was weak. He was Seinfelds Kramer or Friends Joe.
>>151043563Rorschach talk? It is quite common.>>151027448
>>151047856That OP reeks of ESL.
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>>151047967>ESLI dont know why that is a bad thing? Albert Einstein or Wernher von Braun were an ESL still were very smart.
>>151045385The movie design is meant to look cooler and sleeker than the comic book one
>>151046076>In the comic Nite Owl didn't give a shit about Chudchach.He breaks Rorschach out of prison and repeatedly talks about them being friends.Rorschach stops him from murdering the dude who told him about Greg Hollis's death.They have an understated but cute friendship in the comic
>>151048218Thats the problem with the movie. To make it suitable for the movie audience you need to make it look cooler.Nite Owls fight scenes are too cool for a character that should be the nerd.
>>151048044So am I. English is a very easy language, breaking it to that degree is a sign of stupidity.
>>151046193>This might sound strange but women usually like to project themselves through the ‘Rorschach’ in Yaoi stuff.Is it really that strange? Rorschach obviosuly seeks to embody old-school American masculinity, and a lot of people will say he is nothing but a virulent misogynist - but underneath all of that, perhaps on a unconcious level, he identifies his own suffering with that of women and seems especially invested in protecting them>becomes a vigilante in the first place in order to avenge a young woman>gets overly emotionally invested in the disappearance of a little girl, and spirals because of said girl's death>save for Captain Carnage, all the criminals Rorschach kills as a vigilante are rapists and abusers of women>wears the remains of a woman's dress as his maskI remember coming across a really interesting article from years ago written by a female fan, who talked about how she heavily related to Rorschach as a victim of sexual abuse as a child. If only I had an easier time trying to find it again.>>151048263Yup! But personally I always thought his costume as-is was great character design. Movie one feels too generic.
>>151043563I was there but I don't remember anything.
>>151045385Tbf the movie design looks cooler than the comic design, the wing thing was insanely cool. But i see why it kinda loses the point.
>>151048305Or a sign of internet speak. Writing in the internet and especially social media will transform them writing in a semi-spoken language as if it is written in a comic text box.It is tempting to write it on the fly.
>>151041874I don't think Rorschach would even know what he is. He's been so stuck in his hole he can barely process basic human interaction. I see it as an extreme version of when a guy will get super attached to any somewhat attractive girl who's nice to him, he's really attached to Dan simply because he's nice to him and he's never had that before. I don't think sex even factors in, just "Dan nice to me, spend more time with Dan if possible"
Wait, do people really thing Rorshy is gay? Or like, a closet homo? Or is this an ironic t hread that's gone straight over my head?
>>151048343The movie is fine as a comic book movie. Just the subtile changes makes it kinda the opposite what the tone was in the graphic novel.It is kinda truthfull to the source but not really. And i dont mean the squid ending being replaced.
>>151046642Does anyone have a gif of that gliding zipline thing he did i remember that being insanely cool for some reason
>>151046076They are friends, shown to be friends and partners multiple times, and friends = fujos because niggas cant be buddies without it being romantic and sexual for some reason.
>>151048496>He's been so stuck in his holeHe should really keep his fingers out of there.
>>151046095Ok this is actually cute
>>151041874I don't think so, he's just bad at opening up emotionally and relating to people due to trauma and mental illness. Dan is his best friend by default because he's the only one who can stand him
>>151048470You are not in a chatroom. There is no excuse.
>>151048525I think that this is a fanfiction, fujo thing. A shipping thing that startet more like a joke.
>>151048733There is. This is just the internet, especially a volatile, quick place. There is not that much room or patience to care for proof reading text xou habe written.
>>151048525To answer all your questions; yes. I think I posted my own analysis going over Rorschach's sexuality sometime last year but I feel lazy to repost it.
>>151048842Being careless is one thing but broken speech is a social impediment. You have ADHD.
>>151046076Fujos don't understand male friendship and think everything is gay.
>>151041874No, like the Comedian Rorschach seems to cling to guy less because of sexual attraction and more affection he was deprived of growing up, he doesn't seem to have any favorable opinion of Jon or Adrian despite their physique and appearance, but was clearly felt hurt whenever his professional colleagues didn't personally stand by him. If you re-read the first issue before he goes to any of them he has a neutral or even impressive if not sardonic title for them, "A better class of person", "indestructible man", then leaving with a sour remark about them after being dismissed.Another example is how he's quiet when the Minute Men are being formed until Comedian scoffs at it as a coping effort, then he partially agrees to likely get on Blake's good side, but flatters Dan by noting how much work they've done as a pair instead of a whole team. It's clear he just wants people he regards highly to think the same of him.What's tragic is had Walter not gone off on his own, got traumatized and disappeared Dan might have let him room with him all those years.>>151045229I'm not sure what Dan's saying at the end, but this would have been a good bit after the hug. Walter handing Dan a bunch of stuff he pinched from others to make up for the beans and sugar he took, but passing it off as if it were his own.
>>151048249Yeah, he was also having sex while his friend got ligma'd by blue man. I think he had enough of his shit.
>>151048525There's something about broken perverted men that draws gays like moths to a flame. The same same fire that draws straights to evil bitches and girls to convicted criminals I guess: The "I can fix them" syndrome.
>>151048525Fujos think literally every male friendship is homolust. That's just how they see the world.
>>151049424No one actually learns that Dr. Manhattan kills Rorschach.At that moment Dan is just overtaken with emotion about how the end of the world and feeling grateful to be alive
>>151049439>There's something about broken perverted men that draws gays like moths to a flameAnon, you are talking about girls, fujos to be specific.
I hope Dan got Walter to wash his anus hole before they did it.
>>151049544>messy bathroom foreplayDIAMONDS
>>151048525it's been one of those minor theories that's been around longer than you'd think, I remember it already been a thing in the 2000's with the implication that it's been a reading of how he acts since the 80's. From the whole old idea that homophobes are closetcases, to just taking his handholding as a token of affection. More nuanced views on male loneliness since have downplayed that and it's largely just the realm of shippers these days.
Aw yea, new shipping
Maybe freeze peach was a bad idea...
>>151049237Most people on the internet are careless. Otherwise you couldnt pull social media posts from the past to cancel people or shitstorms happening.
>>151049763To be honest, I'm not partial to interpreting their relationship as something romantic, I just find their friendship and dynamic to be very sweet.
>>151041874Some got the edit where Rorschach and NIteOwl shakehands but Rorschach refuses to let go for several panels
>>151049377Not to play devil's advocate, but isn't the idea of a friendship blossoming into something more pretty common for all kinds of relationships? I mean the whole childhood friend thing or even the girl next door trope relies on fantasizing about falling in love with a close friend
>>151051679Your delivery, sir.
So sad Steve Jobs died of Ligma.
>>151051697Thanks anon
>>151051697kek
>>151051697Lol
>>151045351Cute.
>>151048525I think Walter lived such a fucked up life that any sexual inclinations he might have had have been repressed to the point of gravitational collapse.
>>151042502In this guy's Fargo video, near the beginning he basically said something like "The realism of the show makes it feel more real." I commented pointing out how stupid that sounds, and he replied defensively saying, "But it said it's based on a true story." It's not based on a true story. That's just a marketing thing a bazillion stories have done. Even then, he missed the point of my critiicism because it wasn't about whether the show has verisimilitude, but the fact that his statement was flat out retarded.
>>151043814>Rorschach/Dan/Laurie, double penetrationWalter was on his hands and knees, his arms clutching the lavish bedsheets. (Even now, his hands seemed too unrefined for them) The position wasn't unfamiliar to him, but the combination of sensations were. Behind him, Laurel was buried inside, using her sizable phallus as a piston to hit his good spot over and over. Daniel was thick and full in his mouth, descending into edge of his throat. A trail of drool ran down his chin.Moments before, there had been their usual tangle of bodies. Daniel and Laurel had shared a knowing look like they often did."He's gonna love this," she had said, and Daniel nodded back in return.Now, he was skewered between them, unable to do anything but rock back and forth with their thrusts. He was a marionette guided by their hands – Daniel gripping his scalp and Laurel digging into hips, sure to leave bruises the next day.He was vulnerable and helpless like this, unlike the the icon that he aspired to be—indelible and unwavering. Unlike Rorschach.Walter's eyes were screwed shut, but he could clearly picture what he must look like now – wanton and weak and shameless. He must look like his mother. He must look like a—Instinctively, he buried his face into the bed and raised his arm to cover his eyes in shame, though it did nothing to cover the brazenness of his depravity. But he badly wanted to be concealed.The thrusts stopped. Walter felt a slender hand against his wrist and large hand on his cheek. Laurel's breasts were pressed against his back. Tenderly, she drew his concealing hand away to reveal Dan's beatific face, glasses and all, smiling down on him.“It's okay,” they said. “You're good.”And Walter chose to believe them for now.
Why can't two guys just be bro's anymore?
>>151055521It's not gay if the balls don't touch.
>>151048551It was a weird decision to make the comic-book kid an adult and they outright blundered the posing where the newsstand guy tries to protect him from the squid-blast (now Manhattan blast).
>>151049499>well, I just agreed to cover for gay Stalin>time to bang
>>151051855I think I only just noticed his ball-hammock is shaped like an "M" for Manhattan.
>>151055676What if it's Mangina?
>>151055655I think it's depressing if Dan never cared about Rorschach and didn't care if he died.
>>151041874Mentally ill people like gays or trans are so broken they are unable to understand friendship or any kind of realtionship that's not sexual in nature.
>>151058166So like 90% humanity? Sex is very important and heavily integrated in our DNA.
>>151058431How come i've never had any or even developed a crush on a girl or found myself wanting to deepen an emotional bond into romance.I'm twenty and your most romantically-intense period is supposed to be between teenage years and mid twenties.I just went to school, went home. Now i go to work, go home. There never was love or passion in any of it. I just scream myself awake, trudge through the day, and disassociate till bed. I have no friends, i earn minimum wage and i've never even loved a woman let alone touched hands with one.
>>151058431Hope you never have kids, weirdo.
>>151058867Why? I just stated the obvious. Humans are very society centered species. Why do you think that sex still sells? Why people complain that wokeism banned sexyness or conservatives banned female/queer visibility?
>>151058477Maybe you have depression, are autistic or a sociopath. But since you question to never had a crush or love, means that this seems important to you. Means i am right that this is still integrated in your DNA and you think you miss something.But i mean sex in a wider sense. So do you masturbate? Besides it just seems that you dont have time gor it or never found the person you like or think to suit you.
>>151058166This coming from people who whine about the male loneliness epidemic and see the opposite sex as nothing but objects made to serve them by being breeding sows for their seed, fuckdolls for their dicks, maids for their households and psychiatrists for their issues. Genuinely, what do you know about friendship?
It's funny how I don't mind gay shipping when the characters actually fit it.I don't for a second think they're actually gay in the comic but their personalities and designs lend themselves to fun cozy gayness.
>>151059829I'm a woman, retard.
>>151058166>But I know about friendship! I spend all my time on 4chan!Anon...
>>151056597People imagine this from projecting onto Walter, but few do the same for Dan to see it doesn't fit.Dan had let Walter know his secret identity and kept contact with Hollis, who even felt Dan gave himself trouble with it, so he wasn't someone prone to abandoning his friends, it was Rorschach who didn't associate with Dan for almost a decade due to offended principles and trauma, and Dan didn't know Walter's identity so he couldn't go searching all over for answers. Yet Dan receives Rorschach well enough when he breaks in, repeatedly and chiefly due to his personal interest in the Comedian's death prompting it more than anything in Dan's life, and even after Rorschach leaves just as abruptly and ends up arrested from not using caution Dan still eventually feels obligated to break him out of prison, during a riot and while Dan and Laurie were under threat of being arrested, then continues to help Walter with the investigation after Laurie gets beamed up and Dan finds out Hollis died alone in his absence, and even flies Walter all the way to fucking Antarctica to wrap it up instead of just going into hiding and being done with everyone.Last and most of all Dan tried to warn Walter against storming off as usual but Walter's offended principles compelled him to dismiss the advice as usual, even after Walter himself had just reconciled how difficult he can be as a friend.I didn't expect readers to lap up Dan's human fallibility like Moore wrote, but it's still a shame people who probably are familiar with doing what they can or going out their way for others only to be dismissed don't seem to speak up for Dan more.He'd had gone above and beyond what most people would to protect the lives of his friends but it's precisely because characters and readers write him off as a fussy nerd that all of it gets swept away as stuff that happened while his need for validation is put under spotlight.
>>151056597Dan probably did care about him as a human being but also was probably ready for the last 15 years to wake up and hear about them finding Rorschach's corpse on the street in some alley. He's basically seen everything he's known get torn away, and can't go back to his old life so he's effectively dead in a sense himself. Hollis' death is what really impacted him
>>151059550>So do you masturbate?A lot and i have a ton of time. I'm half-assing college recently but i've been a NEET for up to half a year before then.I just hadn't made a friend since elementary school and have no female aquaintances. Even so, guys get obsessed with women they've never even met. My class is like 60% female and all of them are incredibly beautiful and still i don't really have any burning passion for romance in me. I wish i did but eh. I exchanged maybe 4-5 sentences total since the beginning
>>151060342I always read it as a somewhat tragic tale of Rorsach's worldview not allowing for even a moment of respite. He's fighting against the whole world, and so he can't find momentary tranquility in a friendship or anything of the sort, even though Dan clearly cares for him greatly.
>>151058477Because you're the 10 percent of humanity who doesn't experience this. An outlier.Even more evidenced by your lack of self-reflection that a twenty year old that posts on an image board of dwindling relevance largely frequented by aging millennials would in any way be indicative of normalcy.I see posts like this on 4chan all the time, people rebuffing generalizations by using themselves as counter examples...when just by posting on 4cvhan in 2025 alone you're not anywhere close to an average person.
>>151060624I used to have a big of an unearned ego so i mentally downplay any and all outlier-qualities and liken myself to a commoner mentally at all times. I guess that polluted my worldview a little bit but it's better than the alternative. I used to be arrogant about being a freak which is a quick way to make everyone hate you immediately.I don't know what to do even knowing full well the state of affairs. I'm pretty sad that i'm seemingly missing out on a crucial part of the human experience.
>>151060587The handshake was a moment of respite.
