https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEgPQ7HKoBADidn't see this posted anywhere. Are you ready for the bunny and fox to NOT fuck?
>>151044577BESTFRIENDENERGY
>>151044577>Are you ready for the bunny and fox to NOT fuck?That's what porn is for
Look at him, he's so happy he's getting in as a racer in Disney Speedstorm!
>>151044577zootopia is healing
I kept trying to figure out what exact incident ruined the furry fandom in the 2010s and I kept drawing a blank outside of SonicFox, but then this movie gets a sequel announced and I'm like "Oh, yeah! Disney movie centering around a racebait story for viewers that think they're civilizing the savages for enjoying a cartoon with """mature""" """real-world""" themes, with the word "anthro" in the marketing, and a """macro""" scene, starring Shakira!"Zootopia was *literally* made for the YourMovieSucks of the world to point and basedface at it. Ironically, the deepest connection to the actual furry fandom the audience they attracted has is that they like to wear an animal mask while they get fucked and pretend to be an animal because they think it's infantilistic to be an adult who likes cartoons and that's their turn-on.
>>151044812*forgot pic
>>151044577Borba wins again. Now where's my nearest Arby's?
OK now I'm confused because the (since verified) test screening leak said there was 100% a romantic subplot, and now all the secondary media has come out for the film and said subplot is completely absent.What happened? Did they pussy out?
>>151044901>What happened? Did they pussy out?It's Disney, of course they pussied out. Even though the romantic subplot between Mr. Wolf and Diane Foxington in The Bad Guys 2 was highly praised for being handled in a believable and sincere way, Disney is clinging to that study that says Gen Z wants less romance and more platonic opposite-sex friendships in movies. Hell, Disney probably funded that study.
>>151044871My favourite Borba comic is the one where Nick accidentally murders Judy.
>>151044577I don't know if it's the trailer but this movie looks like it's going to suck ass.
>>151045001>Your history is a lie>minorities dindu nuffin, any time one does something bad they were framed>we wuz inventors and built the walls and sssssheeit>tear down statues of your founders and replace them with statues of minorities>open your gates and let in more
>>151045074>>>/r9k/
>>151045059You joke, but this is literally the plot.The plot of the movie is that all the reptiles were forced underground by an evil rich lynx family that runs Zootopia. The lynxes are portrayed as being highly civilized and organized (in a 'creepy' way) throwing lavish galas. Think the way the family is portrayed in Get Out.The leader of the lynxes took credit for founding Zootopia, when really it was the STRONK WYMYN grandma of the annoying Asian-accented snake character who came up with the idea for the city. All the reptiles now live in a total shithole district that is described as having a 'rich culture.' Nick and Judy have to defy their cop chief's orders in order to discover this ghetto. Early in the movie, the chief is incapacitated by a bite from the snake, thus demonstrating why they should NOT be anywhere near civilized society, but it's all brushed over and forgiven.The son of the lynx leader pretends to help the heroes, and they even tease that Judy might want him inside her, but then when they find evidence of the grandma snake, he rejects the opportunity to redeem himself and he poisons Judy to keep the secret from getting out. It turns out this lynx family has a history of colonizing other lands and murdering people with poison to get their way.In the end, the truth gets out and the statues of the lynxes are torn down, and statues of the immigrant snake family are put up instead. The reptiles come out of their hidden ghetto and re-integrate into Zootopia.Oh and also the current mayor of Zootopia, the buff Patrick Warburton horse, is a puppet of the lynxes and does as they say to maintain power. About as subtle as a knee to the groin.
>>151044901It is increasing looking like they are playing the “they are not getting together but we’ll give you enough teases so you think they are fucking in just two weeks” angle. Which is pretty much Zootopia 1 so nothing different and nothing will ever happen with them
>>151045108The movie is going to be one massive cope for why big "culturally enriched" cities are shitholes.
>>151045108Anybody that's stupid enough to see a disney movie these days deserve to get this slop shoveled into their face and gypped out of their money.
>Men are.... le bad
>>151045108Wow, the grifters are going to love this one
>>151045184>mammals are.... le bad
>>151045074You need to become gay you will be happier
>>151044577Was nick always this lame
>>151044901IIRC at least as far as Disney goes their secondary media is sparse on details and will occasionally leave out romantic subplots.
>>151045321Your deleted reply doesn't count
>>151045289Judy and Nick have always been lame you've just been blinded by their cute designs.
>>151045429Like Stitch, they're fuckable.
>>151045429Judy has wide hips and a tight ass, and for many that's all you need.
>>151045108But why would reptiles want a Zootopia other than a free buffet?
>>151045429This isn't anti-cop but when Nick joined the forced at the end of the first movie I thought it was so schlocky and corny. Maybe they wanted him to come across as one of those cool 80s cops from like Miami Vice but you can't convince me he actually gives a fuck about any of it.
People online only care for Judy and Nick because they want to fuck at minimum one of them. That is is. It does not get online fandom following otherwise and people will ignore terrible writing because of it.Also the only reason people are so desperate to see them date
If Nick doesn't fuck Judy, that just means she's available for a Human Boyfriend.
>>151045517And so is Nick.
>>151045517Look, last time he did, she had an abortion without his consent. He isn't going to go through that again.
>>151045521I'm going to help him find out if anal is like shitting in reverse.
>>151045557>your premeditated sinPeak ESL kino.
I’m just excited for the furry and disney adult meltdown that’ll happen when this film releases and is inevitably revealed to be mid or bad.
They're adapting it.
>>151045769Moana 2 is the worst of these by virtue of the fact it wasn't even meant to be a movie until 8 months before it came out. They pulled the old 'repackage three episodes of a cancelled TV show as a sequel' routine from the DisneyToon days and audiences rewarded them to the tune of $1 billion.
>>151045769I adore the first movie but I have made peace with the fact that the sequel will be mid at best. The worst thing they could do is assassinate Nick or Judy's character like in Wreck it Ralph 2 and afaik they don't do that, but that's setting the bar so low you could trip over it.
>>151046159Can't wait for another shitty Disney twist villain to toss onto the pile.
>>151046159Cute bastard
>>151046159>>151046247I can fix him
>>151046331i'm afraid he's unfixable
>>151046410Source?
>>151046410Remember kids, racism is bad, except against whites... err, sorry we mean lynxes, those guys are all evil
i'm sure kids will love it. Anyways.
>>151045059>>151045108Good. uppity mammalfags deserve humiliation.
>>151044577I don't care about Disney shit and don't have time to watch a trailer. Any fetish-bait in it?
>>151047649The Lynx accidentally sits on Nick's face.
>>151045021Did... did he knot her to death???
>>151045021He's already touching her. He couldn't tell she was cold?
>>151047649Judy is put in a rotation of figure hugging and skimpy dresses.
>>151046159Eww he's all fat and shit. Don't you have a normal housecat or dog?ACTUALLY WHERE THE HELL ARE THE NORMAL DOGS AND CATS IN THIS UNIVERSE?
>>151044577Am i nuts or was the beaver a guy in the very first teasers from last year?
>>151048552They're domesticated species and there were no humans to domesticate them.
>>151044819Lmao go away oldfur your kind is basically extinct, gooners and ponyfags are what you have now
>>151045108not as heavy handed as zootopia with shock collars, at least.
>>151044577>Are you ready for the bunny and fox to NOT fuck?Good. First movie was good for this very reason.
>>151045769Toy Story 3 was good
>>151045059>is le woke is le woke because my head say sokys, woke right
>>151044577>I am your galThey had to spell it out otherwise no one would've been able to tell this thing was a female
>>151048996needs big tits
>>151048996Wait THAT is a female?Until right now I thought this was 100% a male am I being pranked?
>>151044871Dreamworks Supremacy proves itself again.
>>151048996Disney challenging gender norms yet again by creating ugly pieces of shit! Very brave!
>>151049239This character was not worth tanking their movie's box office over.
>>151045047I think it's you, because it looks fucking great.
>>151045769It's not going to be mid or bad, so you're a faggot.
>>151049239>>151050216That thing was barely even in it. Honestly the gay looking blue elves turned me off way more and after watching it, it was just a mid fucking movie.
>>151048996I'd fuck it either way.
>>151045108You sound bitter. Wonder why.
Mega fan from 2016 threads here.This does not look good, not even for the will they won't they.I'm afraid the hype is just not there.
>>151050371You don't sound like any kind of fan.
>>151044577It looks really good. Love the colors in this movie, too. Can't wait to get the art of book.
>>151049086I am almost positive it was a gay in the original versions of these teasers. They muat have redid the scenes.
>>151044819What the fuck are you talking about. Why are furries like this?
>>151045005Not even furries cared about Bad Guys 2
Just feels like a pointless sequel.
I don't see the point of the doomerbait, the movie looks solid so far.
>>151051076>feels like a pointless sequel.Everyone wanted a sequel, we're getting character development and more of the city. How is that pointless? That's what you want from a sequel.
>>151044577>not that funny>Nick being an ultra dork>ugly ass reptilesI'm honestly underwhelmed, maybe I'll pirate it when I get the chance.
>>151050282Kek, Disney hasn’t made a good film since Moana, get real
>>151051223>>not that funnyYou're just a broken human begin
STOP IT!IT LOOKS GOOD! JUST SHUT UP!
>>151051256Still not paying to see it.
>>151044901People don't have a proper definition of canon. Based on the leaks and test screaning, all that happened was Nick confessed his feeling that he likes Judy in a romantic way bit not to Judy. In the leak it was to Bellwether. In the book ot was Nibbles. They even tried to kiss and get interrupted. Theres even a constant jealousy angle with that Pawbert guy. That's it. Its still happening but people seem to want an on screen interspecies sex scene. Don't get me wrong. I think that would be funny in a Disney movir but all they're doing is a set up for Z3. No leaks or test screaning said they become a couple. There's that wedding ring scene, though thst really sets up Z3 but no news of that.
>>151050695>>151051167>>151051262>>151051256You furry manchildren are getting your hopes up too high for a shitty cashgrab Disney sequel that will likely be as shit as any of Disneys other sequels. You’re so gonna be >>151045769
>>151044577I already cringed with the previous trailer so much that I didn't bothered watching it till the end. I will not watch this crap, especially after watching Zootopia Plus that took an eternity to be made and it ended up being crap. Even direct-to-video sequels of Disney classics were much better in comparison.
>>151051337don't care, if it sucks i'll just pirate it and watch it high and pantsless
>>151045108Are you really complaining about "muh racism" subplots in Zootopia 2 of all things? The sequel to the movie that did the "predators are naturally violent but not really and it's all about black people and law enforcement" subplot?
>>151051337They're the reason why the phrase "a sucker is born every minute" was coined.
>>1510445771:03. Nick steps on the lizard's tail and she says "keep it." So "Nick gets some tail." Uh oh. I think we are going to see some Nick x Lizard lady shipping.
boring
>>151049129Wolfington won. Wildehopps zero.
>>151051337You sound like a miserable child. I pity you.
>>151050929WRONG.
>>151051505They had more time to get their relationship going. Nick and Judy are just starting out here, why would they be all over each other the same way?
You're all just poo poo heads saying you don't like this.
What happened to nick being a laid back sly fox while judy is the one who loses her mind over everything
>>151051568Liking someone will make you do weird things.
>>151051544The fans had to wait 10 years for a sequel to Zootopia and the Bad Guys 2 came out only 3 years after the original, so it's Zootopia that had more time and yet they are going to sprinkle the barest of crumbs on the fans. With Disney sequels the mantra is always wait longer and get less.The one time Dreamworks did wait 10 years before doing a sequel was Puss and Boots and it was so good that the original lives in the sequel's shadow. The last time Disney did a sequel that was better than the original was Rescuers Down Under in the 90s.
>>151051604You're whining about something that you don't know anything about, clearly.
>>151051604apples and oranges
>>151051568What happened in Tundratown?
>HAHAHA 'MEMBER THE SLOTH!?ooh I 'member!
>>151051640I've been watching Disney movies for 3 decades. This is not my first rodeo, and I'm not even complaining or mad, I'm simply telling people to temper their expectations because we've seen this play out time and time again. Disney releases a beloved modern classic and the fans wait on baited breath for the sequel, and what they get is mediocre at the best of times, and in the worst case it's so bad that it makes them enjoy the original less (Wreck It Ralph 2).
>>151045769The original Wreck it Ralph and Moana movies weren't good either. The only good thing at Moana was the catchy meme song (the only memorable song of the movie).
>>151051681You want an apples to apples comparison? Incredibles 2. The fans had to wait almost 15 years for that movie, and when it finally arrived, it felt like they waited for nothing because the story picked up exactly where the original left off leaving no room for the characters to have evolved between films, and what little character development it did have felt ham fisted. It was thankfully not a trainwreck, but it was mid and made fans feel like their waiting and anticipation for the movie was not rewarded, and the same thing is likely to happen with Zootopia 2. We already know the story and we already know it's not going to satisfy the decade of anticipation fan has, especially with Disney being so gunshy about the one thing that the fans were talking about, which is whether or not Nick and Judy are going to get together. 10 years of wondering and the answer is going to be a resounding "maybe."
>>151051234>Moana>GoodPick oneAlso the last great Disney movies were at early 2000s. Unfortunately commercial flops like Treasure Planets (despite being a great movie) made me move to 3D slops.
>>151051695Ahhh. You just want to complain. Got it, got it.
>>151051720wreck it ralph 1 was fine
>>151051768>It was thankfully not a trainwreckIncredibles 2 was a huge trainwreck. Because Pixar sucks, mostly. Picking up where it left off was not an issue.
Don't criticize the movie because I want them to make more.
>>151051768>We already know the story and we already know it's not going to satisfy the decade of anticipation fan hasWrong
>>151044577>mammals are all real species with mostly real sizes>reptiles are mostly made-up species and most of them look big afthis bothers me
>>151051964It's a poorly thought up and slap dash sequel.
>>151051985No it's not
>>151044577I absolutely hate furries, but I really enjoyed Zootopia to the point that I made a Zootopiasona back in 2016. I can't believe I forgot about that.
>>151051568He fell in love with her but didn't want to admit it. This sends mixed signals which makes her do crazy things. At least that's what the therapist said.
>>151051964>>151051985Amusingly that falls into a familiar stereotype about furries. Most furries prefer mammals over reptiles, and when a furry artist has to draw a reptile they often don't put much effort into researching it and making an accurate representation of the animal, drawing some kind of generic reptile and then adding a few superficial features to represent whatever species its meant to be.It's pretty odd because so much autism went into getting all the mammals right in the first movie, to the point that they were studying actual animal hairs under a microscope to get their fur shaders just right. But come time for the sequel we get "generic blue snake" for the new character Gary and they didn't even really consider size and scaling in comparison to the mammals. Fact of the matter is that most reptiles are tiny, and most of the "big" ones would still be smaller than Nick if they were properly scaled. The only reptiles that are genuinely big today are crocodilians and large snakes. All the reptiles that are alive today are descended from the ones that were small and adaptable enough to survive the cataclysm that killed the dinosaurs, whereas mammals thrived under the clean slate and were able to grow to enormous sizes now that most of the climate was unfavorable to large reptiles and their large, vulnerable egg stashes, which were far less survivable than mammal cubs that gestate in a placenta.
>>151044577If there is one thing I can't stand its how shitty and stereotypical trailers can be.Second to that is overdubbing different lines in certain scenes where you can see the lip sync clearly doesn't match up.
>>151052236I wonder if Nick regrets being Judy's partner in the ZPD because that makes it more difficult to figure out where he stands with her, particularly regarding ethics codes? If he had stayed a civvy there would be far fewer complications if he wanted to date her, but at the same time they wouldn't get to spend as much time together.
>>151044577Judy sounds different.You're telling me they have a water tube they get sent around in like one of those old timely mail vacuum things you see in old hotels...but you're just expected to hold your breath? Talk about a situation where you'd need an air tank or something or risk drowning.Also calling it right here - Judy does not have a good lung capacity, she's a small bunny after all, and so Nick tops up her air with a little mouth to mouth transfer of o2.There is something about the editing here that greatly implies this happens. Choppy, tense, blackout...yeah.
>>151045059>and sssssheeitkek
https://youtu.be/8tqnYt0pvZk?si=KQNpfRKRCCtXp9e3This movie has a lot of final trailers. This was the best one. It starts with Nick getting punched in the face and makes you wonder if its a kids movie.
>>151052517I think the talking animals is a big indicator that this is a kid's movie besides the fact that it's a sequel to a kid's movie.
>>151051964The reptiles aren't made up species though
>>151052543Talking animals doesn't automatically mean kids show.
>>151052673Oh my bad here's hoping that the kiddos enjoy the graphic sex scenes in Zootopia 2.
>>151052714kek
>>151045108I thought the idea the snake came up with was not so much "aha, a place where all mammals can live together!" but more "so here is how the climate walls that make this practical will work."
>>151048996That's a very annoying character design. They should have just kept the honey badger. Yes, I'm aware her asset already got re-used for the doctor in the first movie and no I do not care. Nibbles looks that bad.
>>151052783Which is what makes it all seem extra contrived. Determining who is the founder of a city can often be difficult, and many times there isn't a single founder, but the title certainly wouldn't be given to someone who just had an idea for how to make a big insulated wall. I think the movie was made to pander to the 2020 zeitgeist about cancel culture and historical revisionism, because it operates on the same kind of copium logic that people back then wanted to believe.>Billybobville because Billybob owned a slave, we should tear down the statue of Billybob and replace it with a statue of Billybob's slave Jamille because he dug the foundation for the town hall, and we should change the town's name to Jamilleville."That's what was going on when they started developing the story for Zootopia 2, and the pushback didn't really overpower it until maybe a year or two ago when people decided they'd finally had enough, which is far too late for any significant course correction to have happened, least of all at Disney who even now is still woefully behind the curve in regards to where mainstream culture is at.
>>151052344i love a man in uniform. why he look so handsome here?
>>151044577Literally 0% of this not leading to him kissing her to give her air. The magic of trailer editing.
>>151053008because you're a faggot
>>151052986People like you who think that's "mainstream culture" are pathetic.
>horse mayor screams like a girlYou lied to me, /co/. You said he was gonna be like Fabio.
>>151045108I suppose the irony here is that the reptiles are biologically suited for the swamp ghetto.
>>151052369Great because they chose the water pipe instead of the futurama tubes the movie is going to attract the sicko drowning fetishists
>>151051568Judy started physically abusing him
>>151053092I don't think you can mouth to mouth someone under water. You'll lose your own air. After they get out of the pipe maybe but not while under water.
>>151052369I imagine its to show that the swamp lands are so much designed around creatures that can live underwater or hold the breath for extended periods that they have a transport system that would be a death hole for normal animals.
>>151052986Its just Zootopian lore to me. They buried the reptile biome into what they call now as Tundra Town. Marsh Market was no better either. The beaver said it was cut off at one point in the city's history. There's a lot of biomes not seen yet. Nick's species is supposed to be from the nocturnal biome that's the underground part of the city and is always night time with neon lights.
>>151044577So its literally just the first movies message again, just instead of 'people are prejudiced against predators' its 'people are prejudiced against reptiles' ?
>>151053526Yeah. Plus Judy reveals her big futa dick.
>>151044577The original premise of Zootopia, back when you know, predators were actually predators, was interesting. For many of the same reasons Beastars is/was interesting. But the twist of the Zootopia that they ended up going with, is not only less interesting, it also kind of makes the firs two thirds of the movie a poorly executed bait and switch where the first two thirds are rendered almost irrelevant by the end since it was all built on false premises. If they really wanted the angle of predators and prey living together being perfectly fine and drama free if only people didn't have bigoted views, then they should have leant in on that angle more so that you could have gotten the sense of predators behaving yet being mistreated anyway for no good reason. And to sell that more convincingly, while perhaps leaving seeds for doubt for drama or whatever. Instead of painting the false premise, and then not so surprisingly just render the first two thirds pointless. It's genuinely in the running for Disney Movie I respect the least. Pixar's Elemental has strong Zootopia parallels, and it also ends very magically happy in what might be kind of unrealistic with all the elements getting along. But at least there they didn't (and couldn't) just avoid that Fire and Water aren't and can't be the same. So while everybody learns to co-exist, or even raise each other to new heights in some cases, that there is/can be friction between the elements is not overlooked. But what the fuck is Zootopia even doing with its prey/predators living side by side, while pretending it's a problem while also claiming it's not at all even though all drama and friction or the entire narrative, hinges on the pretend part. And now they're making a sequel out of this?
>>151053092How can they even see? Most people do not have 100% clear vision when underwatta.>>151053220Too late. Already caught art of that already elsewhere. Don't forget puffy cheek breath hold fetishists.>>151053323It's a cartoon, and its assumed Nick has the big lungs. >>151053368They need self contained breathing apperaitis".Imagine its your job to clean up the dead bodies from the water toob.
>>151053577You can make, a prey / predator society fantasy drama, and do it well. And you can even do it without falling into full blown race realism, because animal people aren't humans and aren't actually real. But if you're too afraid of the parallels to race realism are too strong to actually tell the prey / predator society fantasy drama straight. Then why the fuck did you even continue trying to tell the story, only de-fanged and butchered, instead of giving up and pivoting to a completely separate project? And if you were too scared to do it the firs time, then how the fuck would you ever come around to do a successful sequel? Especially when you can't just retcon the first movie, meaning that the sequel has got to be restrained by all the same restraints that the first movie ended up binding itself with.
>>151053281Borba wins again.
>>151053526It's not that at all. You fail at understanding things.
>>151053577>it also kind of makes the firs two thirds of the movie a poorly executed bait and switchNo it does not
>>151053526At this point I would take an entire movie of Nick and Judy in day to day life. Imagine a big budget animated Seinfeld. Just going to work, minor tickets given, small cases solved, then they have time off. Who needs this overarching reused plot crap! Give me Nick and Judy weekend reno, where they move in together and they start bickering over what colors to choose.
>>151053380That's stupid and a common misunderstanding of foxes. They're not actually nocturnal, they're crepuscular, which means they sleep at night but their most active hours are in the morning and evening, and they take a lot of naps during the daytime.
>>151053577>It's genuinely in the running for Disney Movie I respect the least.Oh woopdee doo. You obviously just want to hate on it because you've got your 4chan swiss cheese brain going.
>>151053583>Already caught art of thatI don't get the appeal of fucking drowning
Post the book
>>151053614If predators don't actually have prey drives to struggle with, which the first two thirds of the movie tried to imply (even though it was all shown to be artificial), then all the drama tied to the supposedly real but proven fake prey drive issues, also evaporates completely and is made irrelevant. >>151053635I just can't fathom how it completely destroys its own premise within its own movie. I'll concede that you've still got the character journeys of Nick and Judy, but everything actually tied to the narrative falls apart completely. How is that not real, real bad? Extremely hollow. I dare claim it's difficult to respect. At least I don't.
>>151053583>Imagine its your job to clean up the dead bodies from the water toob.I'm pretty sure that was a job at Action Park.
>>151053008maybe it's his eyes? he looks cuter in that pic
>>151053655the book
>>151053637It's drowning fucking, actually.
>>151053696>even though it was all shown to be artificialOh, wow, okay, you actually didn't understand the movie at all! No, it was not all artificial. The brutality of the attacks was the only thing "artificial" because it took away all inhibitions and set them feral. But you thinking that's the only thing they had to worry about means you don't pay attention to anything.
>>151053786Did somebody shit on your Nick Wilde fox dildo this morning or what?
>>151053786>because it took away all inhibitions and set them feralWhich was the fucking problem. If Zootopia wanted to imply that predators were still dangerous without this, then they completely failed to sell that idea. Instead they gave us an excuse that washed away all the sins tied to all prior cases of violence shown.
>>151053577>prey/predators living side by side, while pretending it's a problemBased on the trailers, this doesn't exist anymore. Nick and Judy disguise as a married couple with a baby. Their ant eater guys didn't care. The walrus guy thought Nick and Judy were a couple on their anniversary and didn't bat an eye they were different species. The whole predator/prey thing just got erased.
>>151044577has it actually been established yet why snakes are basically banned from zootopia? was it a detail that was minor in the first movie or is this just something they came up with for the sequel?
>>151053869It's just something for the sequel, they never mentioned reptiles at all in the first movie.
>>151053869This is why snakes are banned
>>151053869Some snake designed a weather wall. A lynx stole the idea and framed the snake for muder. The zootopians cast out all reptiles but not really. Seemed like they were living in parts of the city that were cut off. The reptile biome got frozen over and turned into Tundra Town.
>>151053637It's hard to explain to someone who doesn't have a fetish to explain the appeal. You either understand it or ya don't.If I had to guess there is something sexy about "holding it" until you can't anymore and "letting go". The point of no return sorta deal.>>151053758Kinky breathplay too.
>>151053845>The whole predator/prey thing just got erased.No, it did not.>>151053828They did not fail to sell that idea. You're actually just too stupid to understand a kid's movie.
>>151053896>If I had to guess there is something sexy about "holding it" until you can't anymore and "letting go". The point of no return sorta deal.Ah, like edging. I'm doing that right now. That makes sense.
>>151053845>cute mommyThat she is.
>>151053900>They did not fail to sell that idea.Did the movie show a single violent scenario, where a predator's nature was to blame, without their instincts having been artificially tampered with?
>>151053913>Ah, like edging.Extreme edging.>I'm doing that right now.Anon why you got your dick in your hand browsing a Zootopia thread?
>>151053945I switch between this thread and the national cat day thread.
>>151053932It sets it up with the whole story. Even Nick lets Judy know that everyone getting along is all hogwash. There's obvious tension among them. The all out maulings happening more often is why there was major concern. They never went "oh this has never happened before!"
>>151053900>No, it did not.Yes it did. Checkmate.
>>151054097Stop it you're making my hemorrhoids act up.
>>151054020>There's obvious tension among them.Because predators are acting violently. But they're only acting violently because they've been tampered with. >They never went "oh this has never happened before!"But the question is, is it still a problem? And the answer to that, is no. And pre-civilization predators and post-tampering predators, do not contend that.The movie paints the idea that predators and prey can coexist just fine and that prey drives, to any extent that matters, has pretty much been evolved away or whatever.And that's why the movie never paints it out to be a problem. Even you failed to point to a single example actually shown in the movie, and the insinuation that it was different in an ill specified past when things were different, is kind of irrelevant. Because in the setting of the movie things are different.
>>151054115>But they're only acting violently because they've been tampered with.Incorrect>And the answer to that, is no. You don't understand a kid's film. You've made that clear.
>>151054115The predator/prey thing never made sense even without prey drive. Bogo is not classed as predator but his species is really dangerous because of territorial instinct. Same with hippos. They have bigger kill counts than lions. I'd say there's merit to fearing the bigger animals. Not because they're violent but because they can step on someone on accident and it becomes a murder scene.
>>151053970Caturday or some other cat thread?
>>151054182>IncorrectYou're just making an assumption that the predators are still dangerous even without the tampering, but nothing in the movie actually shows or suggests that's the case. In fact a lot of the movie suggests the opposite. And this sequel will likely double down on that.
>>151054251The entirety of the ZPD wouldn't be a thing if there wasn't predator prey issues before the Nighthowler incident. You're an idiot.
>>151054387>The entirety of the ZPD wouldn't be a thing if there wasn't predator prey issues beforeWhat the fuck? So without the threat of predators succumbing to their prey drives, society would be lawless without a police force? The movie even has the ZPD issuing parking tickets. Would parking tickets not exist without predators? What the fuck do you even think you're saying?
>>151054500Bitch you're the one that doesn't understand the movie. I'm saying the ZPD is there to handle predator on prey attacks, or even other predators attacking or fighting other predators. It's IN the movie.
>>151054665>I'm saying the ZPD is there to handle predator on prey attacksThe ZPD is there to uphold the law. From predator on prey crime, predator on predator crime, prey on prey crime, or prey on predator crime. And this extends even to innocuous shit like parking tickets. It's IN the movie.
>>151054665I'm sure there were mouse criminals too. That bitch in Zootopia+ that kept saying she just got out of prison had to have been arrested by zpd at one point.
>>151054741Yeah, meaning they exist because attacks happen. Meaning it's not all shit being "tampered' with
>>151054836You think all crime comes from predators because of their prey drives? No that's retarded. Prey commit crimes too. Fuck the fucking villain of the movie was a sheep and she gets arrested. The ZPD exists to uphold the law, not to tackle predators because of their prey drives. And of course non-tampered predators still commit crimes just like prey commit crimes. Thing is though, the movie tries to present the idea that predators commit a disproportionate high amount of violent crime because of their prey drives tied to them being predators. But then it's revealed that the only reason predators committed a disproportionate amount of violence was because they were being tampered and messed with. And if you think the predators would still commit a disproportionate amount of violence even without being tampered with, then the movie completely failed to show or suggest that.Zootopia absolutely suggests that predators aren't disproportionally violent. And all drama and narrative threads tied to the suggestion that they were, completely evaporates when it's revealed that they were only disproportionally violent due to being tampered with and weren't disproportionally violent otherwise.
>>151055043>But then it's revealed that the only reason predators committed a disproportionate amount of violence was because they were being tampered and messed withThat is not what the movie says at all. You didn't even watch the movie.
>>151055166What was the movie about?
>>151052673True but the fact this movie is aimed at kids 3-6 means it's aimed at kids
>>151055166>That is not what the movie says at all.It really did say that though.
>>151052517>makes you wonder if its a kids movie.If you unironically don't understand if this will be a movie for children - your IQ is not high enough to have a discussion on literally any topic.
>>151055357What's IQ mean?
>>151055399Intense Queef
>>151055399intelligence quotient
Why does Judy love this guy so much?
>>151053380But the climate walls largely exist because of tundra town.
>>151055601Pussy tingles.
>>151044577All these gags lack subtlety first movie had. Must be lack of Lasseter
So this movie has nothing going for it except the shipping huh, I mean I do like these two they have genuine chemistry, BUT that was because of the difference between themJudy is a cop, she has a duty, she's supposed to be this by the book good guyNick is a conman, he's a silver-tongued scheming trickster, he's more of a morally grey character That's what made them so interesting, that dynamic made them fun to watch because they bounce off eachother, the sequel from what I've seen... Yeah it's pretty grim idk if they are gonna have that same fun chemistry anymoreIf it was up to me I'd keep nick as a civilian instead of joining the force, make him Judy's trusted underground informant since he knows how to navigate the criminal underworld, then hijinx ensues as he fucks up or Judy fucks up, it could have been way more interesting than "Le reptiles are good!" And it would keep their fun chemistry much more
>>151057361From the trailers, it seems like they're terrible cops. They keep getting other cops harmed. Like the two hippos or the mole cop that Nick almost killed. Judy doesn't follow orders while Nick doesn't give a fuck. They only got lucky with the missing mammal case but in reality, they're a menace to the police force. Come to think of it, Judy should've already been fired if it wasn't for Bellwether and Mrs Otterton's timing.
>>151057479Judy was COMPLETELY out of line in the first movie and it doesn't get discussed enough. Starts a new job with an entitled attitude that she's the best of the best and gets pissy when she is put on the starter task all newbies are probably put on. Then repeatedly defies direct orders, undermines her chief's authority and commits insubordination, and literally has to build connections with the mafia to undo the race war SHE started via her dumbass lack of PR training.She does not deserve her position.
>>151057361>nothing going for it except the shippingI know non-furries that ship these two. Its probably the strongest thing the movie has. Something you'd think Disney would destroy using feminism like WiR2.
>>151044577Haven't watched it yet. Does the trailer have any Judy butt moments?
>>151053526Pretty much. They wait out the ACAB fad and then recycle the exact same plot as the first one. Im surprised they didn't go for the old chestnut of the sequel happening minutes after the end of the first movie.
>>151057812It happens a week after the first movie. Nick is finished with police academy by the credits of 1, and 2 picks up on one of their first cases together.
>>151044577This movie is highly satanic as it prommotes the idea that snakes are good and turns children into megawhore furries
>>151053845>cute mommyIs that the rabbit equivalent of having 'bitch' or 'juicy' emblazoned across the ass of your sweat pants?
>>151053202Not all reptiles. Imagine a tortoise or a gecko dying from infacetions
>>151057820>>151045108It's like it was made to upset christians
>>151053894Boy, I hope Disney doesnt go full colonizers bad and write that many snakes and reptiles were forced into hibernation and then buried in the snow and ice when they turned on the weather walls to create that frozen environment. That that Tundra Town is built over the the bodies of reptiles the lynxes have wronged. That would be horrific!
>>151051964They aren't huge like that but it's not like the mammal sizes were accurate.
>>151057361What else does it have going for it? It set in a grounded world. No magic. No space technology. Just talking animals in a city. Sounds great for slice of life stuff but they had to make the leads cops. Imagine if it was just a farm girl who had a run in with the conman.
>Kitty Kat>Crolloq >Pawbert2025 - Year of evil felines
>>151057479Judy and Nick really are not good people. One is a criminal and the other immediately blackmailed him and then made connections with mafiaThat is what makes the whole dynamic of them being cops and trying to stop even less good people interesting
>>151057808She is put in skintight dresses and leggings for a good chunk of the movie. Disney are not fools.
>>151045289The only time Nick was ever anything more than a punching bag beta was in the original script of Zootopia when the shock collar was still the central theme of the movie. He was an interesting and relatable character then and an actual underdog success story kids could root for instead of the mary sue feminist girl boss cringe they replaced him with with judy hopps that is instantly forgotten once kids that watched this shit grow older. He is an insufferable smug cunt in the final cut and a whiny bitch at the end that only contributed to the story sparingly when not being a whiny waste of oxygen that does nothing but complain all the time and crack ironic passive-aggressive humor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICjeyonkfE0&t=116
>>151057361>So this movie has nothing going for it except the shippingThese characters are seen very differently in asia. They're basically a Disney coupe here. In Japan, they have wedding ensembles based on Nick and Judy's attire. And I think this heart selfie is more for Korean marketing than for the west.
>>151057361For some reason i get the feeling that's not the first time she's said 'stop pulling me ears' in that sorta tone.
This movie looks like it's going to suck complete ass.
>>151058648It's a straight to dvd movie released in theatres.
Which will be the worst sequel, this or Wreck It Ralph 2?It would have to be amazingly terrible to beat WiR2
>>151058661No it isn't, you're thinking of Moana 2. This one was always conceived as theatrical.
>>151058748This at least isn't a commercial for a Disney website
>>151058748You're forgetting Moana 2 which is, as mentioned earlier in the thread, the worst by virtue of the fact it wasn't even meant to be a movie until 8 months before it came out. They pulled the old 'repackage three episodes of a cancelled TV show as a sequel' routine from the DisneyToon days and audiences rewarded them to the tune of $1 billion.
>>151058748This will be betterZootopia 2 will be shit but at least your main two are not going to be character assassinated nor permanently split, it is the stuff around Nick and Judy that are complete shit here WIR2 fucked the main characters AND everything around them was also shit
>>151058773That was one of the most horrendously self-serving scenes I have ever had the misfortune of witnessing.
>>151051234fox and the hound was after the rescuers. So it should be in the dark age according to your logic. And rescuers down under were after little mermaid so they should be in the renaissance era
>>151051234Encanto was great. Everything else since 2018 has sucked, but Encanto was great. I said it.
>>151058928It has decent songs. But story " oh we lost our superpower boohoo, now we got them back yay" is kind of weak
>>151059135It'd be less obvious that he's the villain if Disney stopped pretending he doesn't exist
>>151058928Not really, it was just... decent. The story is too weak and barely anything happens or is done with the world and characters and the generational trauma stuff is lame. I agree that it's leagues better than generic slop like Raya and the slop king of them all, WISH. But let's not kid ourselves and pretend this is anywhere near the league of giants like Moana and Tangled, ok?
>>151059181Fuck, I keep forgetting Wish exists, but every time I'm reminded of it I get pissed off again. What a shitshow of a film.
>>151051505Fluffyvenom was a way better ship
>>151058648Looks like it went from what $65 for 20 to $90 for 30? Comparing the archers to the other 2 boxes that have 30 that is
>>151059220You just WISH you could forget it am I right
>>151059307An embarrassment of an effort for the 100th anniversary.
>>151044577I'm thinking Nick is considered hot in ZT2. Nibbles apparently confessing love, the lizard chick doing some heavy flirting with him...
>>151051317I would love if Nick was talking about Judy in a hypothetical, vague sense to Nibbles, and she mistook it as him being into her, and confessed she felt that since she first met him.
>>151051690We don't talk about Tundratown...
>>151059223Fag ships are always garbage.
>>151060059Has Bellwether's scene been cut? She is in the trailer but in the novel she's replaced with the dumbass beaver.
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>>151048899Tranny hands made this post.
>>151060458how can judy compete?
Thank god snakes are too hard to make for AI prompters so we can keep fapping to Judy.
>>151060264She probably escapes at the end. That's also the scene with the wedding ring. Assuming they still keep that scene.
>>151060857>>151060264Calling it now: She escapes by shaving herself so she loses 50% of her body mass.
>>151058552i'm terrified of nicki'm terrified of nicki'm terrified of nicki'm terrified of nick
>mfw another shitty Disney sequel
>>151060857Please do not include the ring scene, holy absolute garbage please Disney PLEASE
>>151061146They know that if they don't, furries will chimp out and burn down cinemas.
>>151061902weirdos don't deserve good things
>>151060458her cock was bigger than his
>>151061088>>151058552Funny how noone admits to be terrified of women.
Why did they make Judy so thick as hell in the comics?
>>151060079which?
>>151045108The saddest part is the people they try to pander to will still think it's "copaganda".
>>151060769Would you dare receive a blowjob from this buck toothed creature?
>>151064058I'd get a blowjob from the Yax guy because he seems like he could put a nice amount of suction power with his yak jaws.